^^^ Give the Star Trek producers $57 million dollars a day and they'll give you a YouTube livestream of the Klingon home world no problem.

You're being fooled by fantasy art and movies.

Yup.










"It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:" -- Isaiah 40:22, KJV

^^^ To use the same example as the video I posted, you can go visit a military base and they've got a visitors center etc. If you start wandering around and exploring on your own you're going to get shot. The same applies to Antarctica.

Everything you do in Antarctica has to be OK'd by your government i.e. the men in small hats. They're not going to OK an expedition that could possibly disprove all the lies they've been telling.

@Spendulus, Mt. Olympus is located just above Polaris (north star) and I suspect they have modern facilities available.

Next question.

You guys want to argue with me over the dumbest shit most provable shit, Antarctica is closed.

I mention the steel dome covering Earth was built by two mile tall giants and nobody bats an eye. I say the government controls access to Antarctica and everybody goes insane trying to deny this provable fact!

Do you have any idea how much an environmental impact study for Antarctica costs? Once the multi-million dollar study is complete then the government arbitrarily decides whether or not you go and once you're there (if you're not denied), there's massive restrictions on what you can and can't do. You can't even bring dogs for a sled let alone a vehicle and fuel for dog's sake.

^^^ No you can't you fucking retard, your government has to OK it and they don't just OK it for anybody. The steps you have to go through are impossible and cost millions, YOU CAN NOT GO THERE INDEPENDANTLY!!!!!

If the man with the small hat isn't there to hold your hand while your there and OK the trip then YOU DON'T GO!

No I'm not still calculating it. It's linear in nature (because the atmosphere is a plane) with a maximum at 0 degrees and a minimum (no refraction) at 90 degrees.

I explained the whole calculation already, I simply needed to show that 1 minute = 1 nautical mile and I did that by calculating the distance to the horizon and Sun's un-refracted size at 0 degrees. Pop the solar radius and the angle from one side into the right-angle trig calc and Bob's your uncle; 3440 nautical miles.

All that's missing is a compiled diagram detailing all the steps.

^^^ Dude, you're so full of crap. Independent travel is NOT ALLOWED, PERIOD!



Antarctica - Sorry We're Closed!  -- https://youtu.be/vnNlbNtuv1g

^^^ If the oxide is formed under high voltage it retains its electrical polarization when cooled, it's a kind of electret.

After much discussion and a failed first attempt at calculation, I've arrived at a distance of 3440 nautical miles for both Sun and Moon.

First I measure the Sun/Moon at sunrise/sunset with the luminary 50% visible (16 minutes), then I calculate the distance to the horizon with a 1 foot eye elevation and an eye angular resolution limit of 1 minute (1 nautical mile to horizon), then I calculate the luminaries un-refracted size (1 minute). Finally I measure the luminary at 90 degrees (32 minutes). Now without making any assumptions I know the radius of the luminary (16 minuets) and using standard right angle trigonometry and the 1 nautical mile per minuet defined during the first measurement/calculation we find the luminary is at a height of 3440 nautical miles with 32 nautical mile diameter.

There isn't really an edge with the dome and the ice wall, however Antarctica is protected by the Antarctic Treaty System so you can't go there un-escorted for any reason under any circumstance. If you try you'll be stopped by military force.



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Sorry for going off-topic here but we're inside a climate controlled high-tech structure built by giants (Titans). Modern humans are the "son of man" and we do not control the climate, all the shit the men with small hats spray on us (chemtrails) not withstanding.

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Death and taxes are a sure thing, the globe is load of horseshit.

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It's because all the evidence for a globe fails horrifically under modest criticism.

^^^ Once refraction is accounted for it's the globe that's up shit creek without a paddle my summer child.

^^^ If you analyze a meteorite fragment (a piece of the dome) you'll find that it's made from a long grain Damascus type nickel-iron steel alloy; a manufactured material.

As for gravity making a steel dome impossible, you would have to assume gravity is anything more than an unproven theory that was falsified along with relativity in 1939 (Sagnac D&P). The reality is that the dome holds in the atmosphere in under pressure and the forces on the dome come from inside trying to push out. The force that pushes objects down (that you believe is gravity pulling) comes from the atmosphere (aether in the case of an evacuated chamber) the object has displaced and, the direction it falls or sinks is defined by the electric field created by dome and its electrically polarized oxide surface.

Open your eyes and see that you're being fed 100% grade "A" bullshit by the men in small hats.



@Astargath, it's not about money it's about fucking you over as hard as possible and making you into a retarded powerless slave who believes nothing but complete bullshit.

^^^ Drooling idiot much?

There are two circular lights and a multitude smaller points of light in sky above us, no heavy balls. Circular lights don't equate to heavy balls and neither do points of light.

Your logic (actually trash you read written by a man with a small hat) is fucking retarded, even if the lights in sky were in fact heavy balls (they are not), it's like claiming a pool table or basketball court is spherical because the balls are.

Do you understand how fucking stupid, how summer child you are for regurgitating this nonsense argument? Do you?

 

^^^ You've got nothing but intellectually dishonesty in your responses, everything you say is an attempt to distract from or lead people away from the facts and the truth.

Eratosthene proved absolutely nothing, he didn't didn't measure a globe he measured shadows cast by a close small Sun. If you think Eratosthene proved anything then you're (provably) a fucking idiot.

Eratosthenes assumed Earth was a globe and based his calculation on that assumption, this is called "begging the question". A small close Sun above a flat earth produces the same results.

You should research you facts before proving that you're a fool.



@BADecker, the Copernican model is done, you're done.

You've got the full calculation, I just needed to show that 1 minute = 1 nautical mile and I did that by measuring the Sun at sunset/sunrise and calculating the Sun's un-refracted size and the distance from the observer to the horizon based on the resolution limit of the eye (1 minute) and eye height (1 foot).

The distance to the Sun calculation is just standard trig for a right angle triangle with the known solar radius and viewed angle. Confirmation is made by measuring the Sun again at 90 degrees and confirming the Sun's actual un-refracted diameter.

Can you see what I did there?



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Let me try and break this down. At a distance of 1/2 nautical miles a 1 foot diameter object has an apparent angular size of 1 minute. Beyond that 1/2 a nautical mile all 1 foot objects are not visible, the eye can't and doesn't register them because they are beyond its physical limits to do so.

If we raise our eye's angle of attack by 1 foot, that 1 foot object can now been seen at a distance of 1 nautical mile as the greater viewing angle increased the apparent angular size of the object.

As objects get smaller and smaller off into the distance they converge to a point at eye level and form a vanishing line i.e. the horizon. For the human eye this point is everything beyond 1 minute in size.

Measurement of the angle is performed with a single eye.

If your sextant is made from cardboard and string I recommend viewing the Moon, the destructive force wrought on the Copernican model is equally as devastating.

I've arrived at ~3440 without making any assumptions or claims. All values are known (eye resolution limit) or measured (angle of sun & height of observer).

^ I believe that the distance to the Sun can be calculated from measured and known values, that doesn't make me a liar. Me trying to prove that it can be calculated isn't proof I'm a liar. What kind of sick bastard are you?

BADecker, he's a different kind of sick bastard. He want to force an assumption of either flat or ball before the calculation starts. I'll make no such assumption.

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The Sun's un-refracted size (refraction removed) at sunset or sunrise when the Sun is at 50% visible (zero degrees) is 1 minute (resolution limit of 1 foot @ 1/2 nautical miles). The Sun's refracted height at sunset or sunrise when the Sun is at 50% visible is 16 minuets. The Sun's un-refracted diameter at 90 degrees is 32 minuets.

If our eye height above the plain is 1 foot then the horizon is 1 nautical mile away given a resolution limit of 1 minute. Given the ratio of 1 minute per nautical mile the Sun measures 32 nautical miles across when not affected by refraction.

So we know the Sun's radius is 16 nautical miles so it's distance according to the trigonometry calculator should be ~3440 nautical miles.

This is where I'm currently at.