Do some calculations and you will see your talking about VERY small amounts of BTC in most cases CPU mining.  Have you done ROI on mining Monero?  I'm guessing it costs more in electricity then you make in BTC.

But it would depend on pool on withdraw, most are easy.  But you need a exchange if you search about Monero.... you will find exchanges pretty easily.  I think you have some reading to do.

But after doing the reading I highly suggest you do ROI math.  As I think your wasting your time.

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You can also trade for fiat money.  Say trade BTC for USD, and try to gain money by selling and buying back.  It is hard to to speculation not being to accurate.

Since it mentions how to collect.  If you have altcoins which is also another way to trade do not keep them on the exchange.  To many are lazy and keep coins on exchanges... it's been bad news for many people.  Use a real wallet you control it's better in most cases.

GPU mining is really a thing of past I would not invest much time as so many are pump/dump.   If you already have gear... eth is going to be best option.  But again I don't suggest GPU mining for most.

Buying new GPU's is expensive... and turning a profit is not easy like it was years ago where 3 month ROI's were almost guaranteed.    Also I would not mine on a PC your using as you mention lag.   Dedicated mining machine is more practical, due to high intensity needed in most cases.

Did the new PSU's fix the problem?  I think that is the big thing we are wondering.

On images you should be able to post use the picture frame button and post the URL picture between code.  It say's insert image if you hover above it.   But you will need to use a image hosting site that works with bitcointalk. Some sites it does not display from right.

And the 3 hashing boards per miner they tested in them, which I have actually have groan to like.  Took me a while to get use to it but at this point with having big PSU's around and 240 I kinda like the power of having 1/3 more in each unit.

Only thing I wish I could get them to do is use RPI's as controller as easy to get replacement and sd backup is so easy.   But I think BBB are here to stay.

I already got one... my old one in fact.   It's on my list of projects to get around to.  Thanks for that link looks like it could add some fun to it.  I have spent some of my hobby time playing with my drone lately.

Thanks to selling it via ebay/paypal is why I got it back.  Happy customer day 1 great feedback left about sale... and little less then month later he wanted refund.  I'm guessing he grew bored of it.   But it is almost scary how easy he was able to return a working device and keeping it and running for almost a month.

First miner I have gotten back via papal luckily it was a small R1.  I have been selling since A1 day's on ebay... guess I have been lucky to have gotten good customers in other sales.

Now that I have a R1 again I have it sitting on my desk waiting on me to play with again.   With U3's before I used a cheap USB 2.0 hub aswell.  It works fine for the job.

I did not OC mine though I know some do.  I did not like how hot the U3's could get.  I used PC fan's I had already to add more airflow which fixed that for me  a while back.

It is more about being the lowest price S7 I think vs other things mentioned.  Likely they save a good amount of money selling thousands with 1 vs 2 fan's.   It's all about lowest production cost.  And coupons make lowest S7 miner price so got more attraction (at least lowest price with batch being sold).

I suspect after I thought about it they might have been testing this design for next gen.  Think about when they are designing next gen if they can keep one fan vs 2 for tens of thousands of units that will add up on savings again.

The reason is there are people that want to buy in super cheap and hold, and get massive profit's.  They think it has possibility of being next bitcoin or even just become a decent altcoin.  That being said most are pump/dump, with a new logo and utter crap.

I loved my GPU day's was fun always something to tinker with, but it was time consuming compared to modern asics on amount of time I spent on rigs.  And a lot more babysitting.

The price of a great GPU is just expensive you could get a S7 for less then some of the top of line cards, so you are right about could be big debt.

It's possible we just don't know, and for most companies won't know.  We know there are B11's that were made for internal mining but did not hit specs they later will.  So there is one company with next gen being used.

Bitmain is good about being quiet we likely will not know unless leak, which are becoming fewer and fewer from them.   I thought they might have been doing this with S7 coupon.  But feel I was wrong after seeing new batch without fan.

And there are some like that announced next gen miners to early, and I don't think we will see them.  But I wont call out the big one I'm thinking of.

I personally don't run a miner at a loss for heat.   At a point I did run mines that were profitable in certain rooms for free heat, but after going a little bigger and getting a mining area with power all ran to it I ended up just mining them in it this winter.  And did not go for free heat messing around with putting them in separate rooms.

I think the bigger thing is the part about being able to sell it at the end.  Even S3's 40-50 bucks buy BTC with sells... you get a little extra.  In day's where ROI is harder I take all the extra profit I can squeeze out of miners, which includes selling previous gen gear.

The big problem is you can get a little profit doing this and flipping on ebay.   BUT if you get a bad buyer that uses it for a few weeks or month even then wins a paypal dispute you lose big money.  People on this board are smart enough to buy direct.... so hard to sell for a markup on most miners.

I sold a R1 a month later person went to paypal said it was not a reliable wireless  router.... yes the R1 is a cheap router all buyers should know this going in.  Yes it is not great to use as router if your wanting one to connect to and get internet on multiple devices.  But almost a month later I got the R1 back and had to give him his money back.   People exploit paypal on miner... it is sad but some do it.

I like buying and keeping for a while.   I normally keep till it's a generation old and my ROI math makes me think I can sell and make more then mining.  And in some cases it is a good amount more selling.    So I keep my gear quite a while in most cases.

Price is up a little around 419, from day low of around 414.   So nothing huge but a good thing to see.  I really want 425 this change... but  I wanted it last and did not happen and stay.

Changes have been pretty nice to use lately.   I keep being afraid it's going to change... but happily wrong on that part.

You are a few years to late honestly CPU mining just is not worth it.   You can expect to use more in electricity in most cases then you make by mining.   So lot of trouble and pain's for zero pay.

Even if you make a small profit over electricity you will not pay off CPU's.

I was not right away. This was first one I saw as I am on it so much.  I did not realize it was April Fools.   I really did think forum or I was compromised.   It was a good one.... but scary.

Best joke / scare I have had in quite a long time.

Not sure this is making sense.  You can go to hashnest and get it there.... which is from bitmain.   You are not really working for yourself in my view as long as you pool mine, which is pretty much a must.

I would describe it more as with buying S7 you own the hardware.   I like this better then cloud mining... as I enjoy the hardware.  But that is big thing is owning and running gear, not that you "work for yourself".

Congratz to winner as always.   I feel like we all win when we get low numbers like this.   I'm starting to not be quire as scared of bitmain if change was just a new 1 fan model.... might not be the big changes I was thinking might happen.

Best thing is go to meta and stake an address you can sign with.  With this if your account is ever hacked you can retrieve it via signing a message with staked address.  

I would make a paper wallet that is cold address with the staked address.  Treat it like you would with any other paper wallet.

Holy crap was this good.  It even effects some URL's.   I was headed over to meta to see if forum or I had been compromised.... got my heart to beat fast lol.

Well done to all who came up with this.

This thread is the thread that never ends, I keep seeing it pop up. OP has not logged on since:
Last Active:    June 16, 2015, 01:00:23 AM

Chances of many reading this with 3 million going twords crypto investment... slim.  Just not a ton of whales buy in everyday.  I think we can let this thread go after seeing that.  I did not realize above, but checked more into created date after this thread keeps poping up over multiple days.

Also beyond OP last active.  It is odd a new account bumped it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600368.msg14265441#msg14265441 .   He got lucky and was at top of page.... so no one got to see he bumped massive old thread if did not click back.