fans are under 3000 say 2000-2500  room is warm 86f

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5 hour read 0n mmpool

4356.72 10:26
4352.46   5:26

4.26 kw  or 852 watts an hour

so 852/14.032  = 60.7 watts a th

this was on mmpool.org   which is sometimes  a lower hash  then viabtc pool due to lack of asic boost on mmpool

10:40 pm   56.85   set to viabtc was still tuning.

will run on viabtc overnight.

4365.98 kwatts   at  9:18am  10 hours later
4358.24 kwatts at 12:18am
4357.40  kwatts at 11:18pm  set to viabtc doing 14,239  which  is higher then mmpool due to asic boost.

that is 840 watts

840/14.238 = 58.99 watts a th. one hour test.

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8.48 kwatts in 10 hours

so 848/14.080 = 60.27 watts per th  about the same as mmpool numbers for 50 hours.

room is 87f or 30.5c    fans are 3500 and 3600  so some noise but not killer.

This will be moving up to Clifton warehouse later today.

Hey completely off topic , but 10k a coin by feb 1st!  My Fingers are crossed and hoping for this.

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Edit:  we topped 10k on Feb 8th  So I guess I was close enough with my Feb 1 guess.

I will now predict  11k by March 1

A lot of upward price pressure  as we past 9400   it makes holding onto s9's look okay for now.

For 1-5 cent power cost to be  mining why not stick with the s9's if you have them.

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4352.46 at 5:26 pm
4352.86     at 5:56 pm   doing 14075gh or 14.075th  ½ hour reading can be off by a bit.


so .4 x 2 = 800 watts draw to do 14.075 th

that is  800/14.075 =  56.838 watts a th   not bad

so

4352.46  5:26
4354.15  7:26

1.69 kwatts in 2 hours

or 845 watts an hour

14.072 th

so

845/ 14.072= 60.04 watts a th

1 th earns 0.1475 cents a day so this  making  2.07 a day  to burns 21 kwatts  which mean it is about break even at 9.9 cent power

2 boards on low only mod is pull the dead center board.

room is warm 85f

I have a m10 with a dead board.

4352.42kwatt hours

at 5:26 pm


So I will try to build a quiet m10 space heater.

Numbers above show kwatts at  5:26 pm

I set miner to low speed to make it quiet and the fans are at 1900 rpm so it passes quiet test.

The center board was bad I removed it completely.

It is doing about 13,800 gh

or 13.8 th

I will check power use in an hour at 6:26 pm

this still needs 240 volts which is easy for me to provide. I am feeding it 239 volts at the moment.

I simply removed the center board completely  an set gear to low.

zero cost fast and easy to do I am hoping to get 60 watts a th for this unit on low.

I yet to find links to its website so I have no idea.

But if it requires 128gb ran and a good cpu it prevents asic attacks.

Anything that prevents asic attacks is okay by me.

But more is needed then just that.

I spent a year supporting bitcoininterest and they failed.


my thread ripper has 4 sticks of 16gb ram  I was able to find 4 matching sticks for 255 usd

a few coupons and I spent about 225 to go from 64 to 128gb ram.

I will have to look at website  and figure out how to mine the new coin but  spending 225 to go from 64 to 128gb ram is a no brainer.

this is the link for  the ram


https://www.ebay.com/itm/16GB-DDR4-2133MHz-PC4-17000-DIMM-Crucial-CT16G4DFD8213-Equivalent-Memory-RAM/323845681783?

if you have a threadripper mobo it is pretty cheap   to do the upgrade  it is 60 a stick.

I will soon 8 sticks  of 16gb ram.  this ram  clocks to 2666 and 15 timing pretty easy.

I have a 1920 thread ripper. on a taichi  str4 mobo.

https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-X399-Taichi-sTR4-Motherboard/dp/B074J5R36W/ref=sr_1_1?

Then simply boycott anyone asking for kyc if they don't offer kyp.

Well the m address was  spoken at length. I have zero sympathy for anyone that was stuck this way.

this new issue is different  people with good addresses both ltc and doge were not paid.

I am negative rating his alt loshia1974

I hit 2 doge blocks years ago  never hit  a ltc block.

I am mining solo now at viabtc.com

I think instead of down grading merits to encourage people to post in multiple boards.

If the idea was to use a multiple for many board merit earner people would accept it as a good idea.

Ie. merits earn rank exactly like they do now so a one board merit earner gets a multiple of 1 for his merits.

since merits would rank up exactly like they do that one board guy would not be punished.

A 2 board merit earner gets 5 free merits.
A 3 board merit earner gets 10 free merits.
A 4 board merit earner gets  15 free merits.
A 5 board merit earner gets 25 free merits.

so on and so forth.

Thus no punishment for the specialist one or two board merit earner.

And a reward for guys like me that have merits in a lot of boards.

Since

1000 merits still make a legend
  500 merits still make a hero
  250 merits still make a senior member

this variation of your idea 💡 is simply all win win. no stick just carrot 🥕.

This is a lot different then the 2012 1/2 ing.

This is somewhat different the the 2016 1/2 ing.

Back in 2012 there were no really big gear companies.

In 2016 bitmain was fairly big in both market share and wealth.

In 2020 bitmain is big in both market share and wealth.

they have a huge interest in price rise to be able to sell gear.

canaan/avalon

whatsminer

innosilicon

all want a price rise to sell their gear.

Newer gear 5nm is coming out very soon.

It may be 20% better then the 37 watt a th gear on market.

so. 37 x .8 = 29-30 watt gear.  if coins are only 9000 selling gear will be hard to do for them.

they all have a huge incentive to push price to 13000 to be able to sell new gear.

I think this 1/2 ing is the first 1/2 ing that many builders will attempt to boost prices hard.


2012 not true
2016. somewhat true
2020. absolutely true.

An interesting idea.  I think the issue of 6.2 percent is not the problem.  USA has made some difficult tax laws regarding bitcoin.

They handicapped it after 2017.  That big run-up scared some old school rich guys so they made restrictive tax rulings for 2018 and on.

BTC  does not work  for the little guy in the USA with the new rules.

It is okay for wealthy people  as you can safely stash 5 wallets  with 10 BTC in each and if you need to leave America you have  some wealth to access.

Every sale or use in the USA of BTC is tax reportable.  So it can be a hassle to use it.

Ie if I sell 50 items and buy 50 items a year in the marketplace here.  That is 100 reportable events and it creates a lot of paperwork.

Worse  coin to coin trades are reportable  if I do 5 trades a day  that is 1825 reportable events.  Plus if I trade 1 btc for 150 ltc on some exchanges it will micro report the trade.  so that single order  may take 300 ½ ltc moves to do  which means even though I did 1 trade  of btc to ltc it will need 300 entries each one will need to be calculated for possible capital gains. This is a fucking killer for a day trader in the usa.

Coins are at 9020.

okay a bank moves money all over and has maybe a 10% cash 💰 reserve.


This just like segwit is going to allow off book 📚 transactions.

I look at the over all concept and see it making btc more like a bank/money item then a stock/commodity item.

I am not sure worldwide banking would like this. As it makes btc more threatening to them.

Personally I don’t think 🤔 Its a good idea.

But maybe its okay. It is an issue for btc to make a lot more transactions.

I think off book coin sales based on reserves of 10 percent in a given exchange are really a bigger problem

Then people realize. I think this makes it easier to do just that.

Cryptocoins are so subject to manipulation by large players and hiding all transactions behind a taproot means a multi sign wallet like coinbase or bittrex will be hidden better.



edit:  this idea below will be easier to do with taproot.


So if bittrex coinbase and hitbtc all have trackable multiple signature wallets.  taproot will hide them from us.

 then they can conspire to raise and crash coin price with very little ability to see they are doing it.

any three exchanges can do the example. or four or five.

all hiding behind taproot in the name of privacy.

So basically the idea scares me.

it is both .  i hate bitcoin discussion.  one of the worst english boards here.

thread after thread simply design for signature campaigns.

it is really hard to find a good thread there.

op has a good thread 🧵 and it is not an easy thread.

i was with computers since 1974.  i was very shitty at programming but i was very good at ops and translating what a programmer was trying to do to less skilled people.

I will post there in a minute or two.



I Posted my fear of taproot. I think is allows potential abuse under the name of privacy.   At op thanks for the subject.

well you are very lucky most likely you will have an exceptional down clocking unit.

it will come in handy during the 1/2 ing.

please humor me and attempt to lower voltage.

your savings may be in power.

i have overclocked gear.
i have run gear with low volts same hash
i have run gear with low volts and lower hash.

No gear super overclocks and super down clocks.

some over clock really well
some down clock really well

some over clock okay
and down clock okay.


some suck at over clock
and are okay at down clock.

i am hoping yours is a down-⏰  monster.

let us know how it down clocks.

I think a lot of s9s are in play

I think a lot of new gear is not in play.

some big farms with three cent power are simply going to ride the s9s to the 1/2 ing then decide what to do.

I am running 3 s9s with a west coast location.

i pay 145 a month.  30 x 40 x .15 = 180 that is 35 profit.

I have had them there since Nov 1 2018.

they made money each and every month. I will ride them till the 1/2 ing and decide if i will ship 🛳 two s17 pros to replace them.

Yeah  my cards and cpu's  grind out 400 usd a month.  but I have 50-50 split deals so  I make 200 usd a month on them.

Yeah 2017 was a nice year.

Need th check my thread ripper as it needs only  4 sticks of 16gb ram

would be cheaper to use it  for the filecoin.

I have  a few mobos with ryzen 9 3900x

have to check  

8 sticks of 16gb ram on my thread ripper board

or 4 sticks of 32 on my x570 board

looks like I can use

DDR4   Corsair   2400   2400   32GB   CMK64GX4M2A2400C16 ver3.44



DDR4   Crucial   2666   2666   32GB   CT32G4DFD8266.16FB1   Micron   DS   2/4
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-32GB-Single-288-Pin-Memory/dp/B07ZLDCYYS/ref=sr_1_1?

320 for 32gb means 640 for 4 sticks


maybe this stick would work
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-M393A4K40BB0-CPB-DDR4-2133-Memory-MEM-DR432L-SL01-ER21/dp/B00U6O78W8/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?

only 95 a stick = 380 four sticks.

I have 4 sticks of 16 gb ram on my  threadripper  it can do 8 sticks

I would need 4 x 16 = 64 + 64 128 gb

Deal is done. good buyer. thanks.