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15061  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 30, 2013, 10:19:30 PM
I lent myself some bitcoin so i could SHORT!  Grin

How many did you borrow and what date and time will you be returning them?

i borrowed 10BTC, i was able to convince myself to be able to pay back the loan in USD (195$) or BTC (10BTC), unlimited time-frame

sweet deal eh?   Tongue
15062  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 30, 2013, 10:13:18 PM
thanks ad. i was wondering when someone would notice
THE FIRST APPARENT ASIC WAS JUST RECEIVED BY A CUSTOMER





this is big news!

link?
15063  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 30, 2013, 10:10:55 PM
I lent myself some bitcoin so i could SHORT!  Grin
15064  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 30, 2013, 10:01:02 PM



i would like to see this one with like bitcoins in his eyes when he freaks out   Cheesy



Pay me: 13qvP8vSEKPxLHXNPeHtCE4TGgZFaZU6am

+0.00016 BTC
+0.00016 BTC

sry i have very little bitcoin because i have been selling bitcoin with intention to buy back lower. ( not to be confused with shorting, cuz that would be just WRONG! -_- )
15065  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 30, 2013, 09:58:04 PM
No.

I refuse to cover a short at a loss
I will continue to short more as we go up.

You are just selling. Why try to make it sound like something else? Selling != Short Selling. The extra word provides extra meaning!

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/shortselling.asp#axzz2JUgmjkCF

I refuse your definition

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_%28finance%29
Quote
the practice of selling securities or other financial instruments, with the intention of subsequently repurchasing them ("covering") at a lower price. In the event of an interim price decline, the short seller will profit, since the cost of repurchase will be less than the proceeds received upon the initial (short) sale.

Last try, then I give up...
The wikipedia page also says : " The potential loss on a short sale is theoretically unlimited in the event of an unlimited rise in the price of the instrument, however in practice the short seller will be required to post margin or collateral to cover losses, and any inability to do so on a timely basis would cause its broker or counterparty to liquidate the position."

Now: if you just sold stuff that you already own, there wouldn't be theoretically unlimited losses (it says "losses", not "absence of profit"). 
Moreover: if you just sold stuff that you already own: why would you have to give a broker collateral? 
And how could he "liquidate your position"?  Would he randomly decide at some point to buy shares or bitcoins that you sold before, just for the fun of it?  Do you see how nonsensical all of this sounds without the assumption that you are selling something that you didn't own in the first place?

yup you got me there
15066  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 30, 2013, 08:56:06 PM
lol

adam? Please define the term "selling".

to sell.
15067  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 30, 2013, 08:53:53 PM
No.

I refuse to cover a short at a loss
I will continue to short more as we go up.

You are just selling. Why try to make it sound like something else? Selling != Short Selling. The extra word provides extra meaning!

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/shortselling.asp#axzz2JUgmjkCF

I refuse your definition

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_%28finance%29
Quote
the practice of selling securities or other financial instruments, with the intention of subsequently repurchasing them ("covering") at a lower price. In the event of an interim price decline, the short seller will profit, since the cost of repurchase will be less than the proceeds received upon the initial (short) sale.
15068  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 30, 2013, 08:47:04 PM

I feel an explotion to the up side is imminent.
            
            /
           /
          /
  /\/\/\/ <- we are here
 /
/

so you bought back in?

Seems like a smart move, I would too if only my funds arrived....  


No, but he did have chili yesterday.

lol

No.

I refuse to cover a short at a loss
I will continue to short more as we go up.

if that means dipping into paper wallets, and totally selling out at a good profit, then so be it, i could use the money.
15069  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 30, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
I feel an explotion to the up side is imminent.
           
            /
           /
          /
  /\/\/\/ <- we are here
 /
/
15070  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 30, 2013, 08:31:16 PM




i would like to see this one with like bitcoins in his eyes when he freaks out   Cheesy
15071  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy, sell, or hold? on: January 30, 2013, 08:27:38 PM
I keep hearing people talk about shorting bitcoin, but how are you doing it without bitcoinica or similar leveraged trading platform? Or are you just shorting through private btc loans? Or is the term "shorting" just being misused on this forum?

The "shorting" term is frequently misused on this forum, used instead of  plain old "selling".

yeah, its annoying.

 I thought we went over this, shorting doesn't need to be leveraged to be considered shorting.
15072  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 30, 2013, 06:17:17 PM
when was the last time we were at $20?

only during the bubble of 2011...
15073  Other / Off-topic / Re: lets convince mars-one to accept bitcoins on: January 30, 2013, 05:11:47 AM
Quote
Hi. I know someone should contact you regarding using Bitpay payment solution to process your transactions.

I think you should know that Bitpay now being in center of growing scandal of $25M scam with their friends BF Labs Inc and futher SEC investigation.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133487.40

Best regards,

Quote
Dear XXX,

Thank you for the suggestion!

At this moment however we are not yet considering Bitcoin as a donation method. We think it could be a great way to donate, but also know that a correct and safe implementation would take some time. Also before considering this, we would need to learn some more about the possible (even minor) disadvantages and investigate what the negative effects of these could be.
But we will gladly keep it in mind and we will look into it in the future to see if there are any possibilities.

Thanks again for your suggestion!

Best regards,

Team Mars One
www.mars-one.com

did i miss it? is this is official word?
15074  Economy / Services / Re: BTC 4 Amazon Thread ALL FEES WAIVED FOR NEXT 40 BTC on: January 30, 2013, 04:32:15 AM
could i buy products from amazon.ca  or is this US only?

I realize this sometimes isn't the easiest question to answer  Tongue
I hope you can offer .ca

thank you!

I added you to my list  Wink
http://www.thebitcoinreview.com/site.php?site_id=981
15075  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 30, 2013, 01:48:03 AM
thats just noise. way too short of a time frame to be a triangle, its just the bulls butting up against a significant resistance point.

i think this is the bears last line of defense, so much as hold up here, means we will bubble to 50 and beyond!
15076  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 30, 2013, 01:35:12 AM
The most important triangle in the history of bitcoin!

will it break UP or DOWN?

paint line on graph
tell everyone about it
 Huh
Profit!  Cheesy
15077  Economy / Speculation / Re: [poll] - The U.S. Dollar Collapse Is Accelerating on: January 30, 2013, 01:32:39 AM
I keep reading all this stuff about the dollar, and I feel like I should find some people saying some kind of opposition. Does anyone NOT think the dollar will collapse? Why? This all seems like a far off doomsday scenario even though I understand that this is happening now. Even though I understand, I can't believe it. Why aren't more people worried? I am prepping with what little I have... Not like hedging your bets ever hurt anyone.

i go over this alot in my newsletter.  it's called the deflationary theory.


deflation is unacceptable!
governments will fight deflation with inflation, no matter what.
15078  Economy / Speculation / [poll] - The U.S. Dollar Collapse Is Accelerating on: January 29, 2013, 11:05:58 PM
http://youtu.be/US0c8POzIR4

is the CAD doomed aswell?  http://seekingalpha.com/article/1139891-can-the-canadian-dollar-collapse?source=google_news
15079  Economy / Speculation / Re: USA dollar INFO ** Might wanna watch this guy*** on: January 29, 2013, 10:51:19 PM
omg omg omg take out all money from banks NOW!

the dollar is being dumped!
the dollar is being dumped!
the dollar is being dumped!
the dollar is being dumped!

ahhhhhhhh
panic panic panic!
15080  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: January 29, 2013, 10:37:47 PM

Sure. It's happened before, but now it's impossible!

Did you forget to wave your hand and utter the words "this is not the wall you're looking for"?

Jedi mind tricks don't work on me, I wear a tin foil hat.

Well, at least you're wearing a helmet.

Smiley

would donate bitcoin if i wasn't in deep shit with my shorts.
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