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15161  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 24, 2019, 07:19:32 PM
In other news, what is WO take on giving btc to your own children? Worth it or idiotic since they don't know how to hold it safely?

I've been giving each of my progeny -- chillens and grandchillens -- one BTC (and one BCH ((and one BSV)) ) each year since years.

I look at the addresses each year to see how they're doing with them. All hodled tightly except for minimal percentages of daughter and one son, in whom I have instructed on the incremental laddered standing order plan.

Your practice alone is going to cause a BTC supply shortage.  Just think about the many poor folks around the world who are not even going to be able to own .1 BTC and many of your progeny will have several BTC each.  Wink

By the way, the bcash variants are not likely to have and impact on the world in any kind of meaningful way, and if they hold them more than a few years, they are likely to increasingly decrease in value - perhaps even faster than the dollar, so likely they should spend those bcash variants first.   or better yet, convert them into BTC. #gresham's law Tongue
Building a family dynasty? I like it, until the grand kids trades it all for Facebook coin.

I had already expressed a couple of years ago that I don't think it is a good idea (especially giving a whole coin each year... that is ridiculous)... but whatever.. it is a child rearing choice that is totally within his discretion.
15162  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 24, 2019, 07:17:27 PM

Who cares what that dweeb has to say?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
15163  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 24, 2019, 07:12:21 PM
In other news, what is WO take on giving btc to your own children? Worth it or idiotic since they don't know how to hold it safely?

I've been giving each of my progeny -- chillens and grandchillens -- one BTC (and one BCH ((and one BSV)) ) each year since years.

I look at the addresses each year to see how they're doing with them. All hodled tightly except for minimal percentages of daughter and one son, in whom I have instructed on the incremental laddered standing order plan.

Your practice alone is going to cause a BTC supply shortage.  Just think about the many poor folks around the world who are not even going to be able to own .1 BTC and many of your progeny will have several BTC each.  Wink

By the way, the bcash variants are not likely to have and impact on the world in any kind of meaningful way, and if they hold them more than a few years, they are likely to increasingly decrease in value - perhaps even faster than the dollar, so likely they should spend those bcash variants first.   or better yet, convert them into BTC. #gresham's law Tongue
15164  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 24, 2019, 06:40:24 PM
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Well, I don't know who else would pay that much for an empty wallet... Seems like a bit of a dumb plan, though. Archived in case the post is deleted.
Recover the BCH value?

Since the wallets will have 0 BTC at the time of transferring them to a new owner, then it is likely that they would have moved their coins before most of the forks were occurring, which started around August 2017.  Thus no Bcash coins would be in those wallets.  So far, the most plausible reason would be to be able to fake an identity.  I have not seen any better (or even somewhat feasible) explanation of motive, so far..
15165  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 24, 2019, 01:01:17 AM
The odds of a marriage in the US today lasting for ten years is about 3%.

Yeah no

Your numbers are wrong by at least an order of magnitude

Quote
Rate of divorce" usually refers to the number of divorces that occur in the population during a given period. However it is also used in common parlance to refer to the likelihood of a given marriage ending in divorce (as opposed to the death of a spouse).

In 2002 (latest survey data as of 2012),[39] 29% of first marriages among women aged 15–44 were disrupted (ended in separation, divorce or annulment) within 10 years.[40] Beyond the 10-year window, population survey data is lacking, but forecasts and estimates provide some understanding. It is commonly claimed that half of all marriages in the United States eventually end in divorce, an estimate possibly based on the fact that in any given year, the number of marriages is about twice the number of divorces.[41] Amato outlined in his study on divorce that in the late of 1990s, about 43% to 46% of marriages were predicted to end in dissolution. According to his research, there is only a small percentage of marriages end in permanent separation rather than divorce.[42] Using 1995 data, National Survey of Family Growth forecast in 2002 a 43% chance that first marriages among women aged 15–44 would be disrupted within 15 years.[39] More recently, having spoken with academics and National Survey of Family Growth representatives, PolitiFact.com estimated in 2012 that the lifelong probability of a marriage ending in divorce is 40%–50%.[43]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_in_the_United_States#Rates_of_divorce

What else is new?  Ibian does not tend to be very good with facts, but probably not worse than roach, at least when it comes to bitcoin.

In other words, stick to bitcoin, Ibian, you fuck!!!  hahahahahaha
15166  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 24, 2019, 12:47:33 AM
oh lol it's Sunday at the bowel end of the earth
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12saLhlUoqIdairxzuSPu6EYGrt7FN2lOstO1yDjCEbA/edit#gid=1012758442&range=B89
you'll probably feign disinterest Hairy but according to this you stand finally to become LegendaryHairyMacLairy in 2 day and 2hours (or any fortnight thereafter)


hahahahahaha...


Maybe he will get lucky?   He is surely eligible.  The maximum activity level is around 1,030, and I recall that I was about 1,000 by the time that mine converted from Hero to Legendary...   but ultimately, there is some randomness in the upgrade, according to my understanding of the matter.  Maybe we should create a poll on the topic?  will become jinxed, or no?
15167  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2019, 11:12:31 PM


I'm going to drink a beer and listen to some good music, I hope to see a big green dildo when I get back.

Bye.
You mean you are wishing to see Bob? 😛
I mean have fun bother 🙂

Well, I would share a few beers with him, judging by his comments, I would surely learn more in BTC strategy.
Actually I would share some beers with all WO members without exception. Wink
You are generous brother.🙂

Good afternoon WO brothers. I hope we are doing well.


$100k party at VB1001's pad...... WOOT!!!!  WOOT!!!!!!     Grin
Wanna buy a beer for everyone in case of hitting $100K. Let's start the party next year Smiley

hahahahaha

Who's buying beer based on BTC price actions?  You?

If you make such promises, you are going to need to be ready, willing and able to deliver upon your promise when the time comes...

Probably, you would be clearly able to afford beers for all WO participants if BTC prices were to go up to $100k in the next few years; however, if it takes 10 years or longer, you might have issues being able to deliver those promised beers, perhaps?

By the way, I do believe that each of us BTC HODLers/accumulators should be prepared for either scenario (fast or slow to $100k), but we should also be prepared in the event that $100k does not come within our lifetime (which duration is going to vary between members, too).
15168  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2019, 10:47:45 PM
^ fella's blog
http://thepatternsite.com/Blog-Mar19.html#P19

edit: wait what?
5500 baby

So he claims it will be at least 6 years until we return to ATH, on no evidence whatsoever. 

Just pretending for the moment he is not horribly wrong headed (suspend your disbelief if you will) would it truly be an awful outcome to have a 600% ROI spread out over the next 6 years?

I don't really have any problem with a kind of slow volatility and climb up of BTC to new ATH in 6 years or more, like you reminded us of that 600% returns (really about 500% from our current price point.. but who's counting, besides me?)...

Giving the guy the benefit of the doubt of being financially smart, a central problem with a kind of gradual rise scenario that he paints (with perhaps some acceptance of ongoing volatility), and gradual return to new ATH in 6 years seems to be that the whole set up (framework) implies that bitcoin is within a mature market - and that assumption is way off, since bitcoin is far from being with a mature market (especially given its current low level of adoption and a shitload of use cases that have barely been scratched on the surface) - causing his assumptions to fail (perhaps refuse) to recognize, account for and understand the asset about which he is attempting to "reasonably" analyze.
15169  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2019, 10:19:22 PM

 we are going to turn off windows on your

machine.


they would be doing you a favor


hahahahaha

Let me guess...  When you call the number, they will explain to you that Windows can be kept going on your machines if you pay a small fee, of perhaps 2.5139421 BTC.... otherwise, if you just provide them with "temporary" remote access to your machine, they will be able to fix all matters related to your windows functionality for "free" or for a small charge of only .0015284BTC.
15170  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2019, 09:42:26 PM
If we actually had a marketing team or gave any f*cks as to what google thinks..we probably could sue the crap outta em for defamation of character.

Bitcoin NO doesn't need NO marketing team.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Your results may vary.

 Tongue Tongue Tongue    Cheesy
15171  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2019, 08:08:47 PM


I'm going to drink a beer and listen to some good music, I hope to see a big green dildo when I get back.

Bye.
You mean you are wishing to see Bob? 😛
I mean have fun bother 🙂

Well, I would share a few beers with him, judging by his comments, I would surely learn more in BTC strategy.
Actually I would share some beers with all WO members without exception. Wink
You are generous brother.🙂

Good afternoon WO brothers. I hope we are doing well.


$100k party at VB1001's pad...... WOOT!!!!  WOOT!!!!!!     Grin
15172  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Announcing BPIP - The Bitcointalk Public Information Project! on: March 23, 2019, 07:23:52 PM
I was just going through my BPIP "merit sent," and I noticed that I could only go back 6 months.
It shows exactly 1000 entries, just like the Most Activity pages are limited to 1000. Probably to prevent server load once tens of thousands of Merit has been sent/received. I agree though, a complete list is better.

Fixed.

You can also set dates as well.   yyyy/mm/dd

https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=&from=&start=&end=&min=&max=

Whoaza!!!!!!!  Check out the friendly (or NOT) competition that is taking place, right before our very eyes!!!! 

Thanks to both of you for your rivalry that benefits the remainder of us mere mortals (this is an opportunity for me to subtly assert that I am not a bot, as some others have accused me)...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
15173  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Announcing BPIP - The Bitcointalk Public Information Project! on: March 23, 2019, 05:55:32 PM
Hey Vod.

I was just going through my BPIP "merit sent," and I noticed that I could only go back 6 months.  I was wondering about such design decision.  Is the further back data, there?  or was there a reason that you wanted to limit based on concerns of abuse of the information?
My personal reason today, was that sometimes, I merit posts that I want to remember (or create a short cut) and most of the time, the post will be in recent weeks, but this time, I was pretty sure that the merited post would have been back further than 6 months, and I was not able to check (at least I had not figured out a way to look back further).
 
Also, I was wondering if there could be a way to allow the merit fans and favorite to send sections could be expanded out with like a (see more) that might open another page or tab to expand beyond 10 for each of those?

Thanks for your ongoing maintenance of this site.. its very helpful.
15174  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2019, 05:45:28 PM
Since xhomerx10 is kinda busy, I created my own hat for my avatar. Kindly rate it guys  Lips sealed. I love dogs  Wink


Let's make Arkansas Great again.



avatar-sized




So much love here, super cuuuuuuute, my doggo <3 <3 <3 <3 and also the cat.  I love it!

3D as well.... ... You stepped straight into 2nd generation (or is it 3rd - no animated was 3rd.. which is no longer acceptable, absent a theymos grandfathering or a waiver, perhaps)... and you did not even have to go through the alpha and beta versions... hahahahahaha  (not that homer's hats were ever non-desirable, while the sophistication has certainly advanced  - probably the threat of competition from madnessteat incentivized homer to another level.. even though homer would never admit to such pressures... hahahahahah... you go homer!!!!!!)
15175  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2019, 05:28:38 PM
Sorry for the offtopic (I know that this thread is about LTC, bcash, jews, etc.), but I noticed a n00b/shorter/miner whale selling 600-1000-ish BTC's on Bitfinex in the last few days. May be he has more, since several big sells coincided with flashing a couple of 200BTC asks. His actions led to a smaller gap between Bitstamp and Bitfinex from 2.5% to 1.5% for a moment. I honestly admire the stupidity of all such people with thousands, even tens of thousands of Bitcoins that are desparate to sell when they see a couple of $'s increase of the price. I mean, in a low volume day, why selling so much? I don't get it. Unless, he is a shorter and want's to defend his position. It is like trying to stop the flooding with bare hands. These people need a reality check, not a bank check. Thankfully, they tend to lose all their wealth in a matter of days, so God bless the true hodlers!

I doubt that these kinds of folks are dumb or that they are attempting to move price with their bare hands.  In that regard, there remains a certain ongoing resistance at $4k that may end up breaking up; however, breaking up is not inevitable... .

On the charts, it looks like an uphill battle, and it even looks as if buy support is continuing to build... which is surely a plausible narrative that could end up getting wiped out with a 10k btc dump across certain key exchanges that causes contagion dumps.... Yeah, maybe the number is not 10k BTC, and may take more than that, but the point and question is whether they have 10k btc (or whatever is the prudent extra quantity) that they are ready, willing, able to dump in their reserves (or amongst their friends that will cause a contagion dumping in order that the dump does not have to all be their coins). 

We have seen it plenty of times before, where the ability to dump, just runs out, but from our "non-whale" perspective, we cannot really know if "this is the time" or NOT..... by the way, I am not asserting that whales know the future either or whether they could be success with a 10k btc dump that they could coordinate with other dumping (and possible simultaneous FUD planting), but there are likely some whales who have decent perspectives over possible breaking points, how many coins they need to have in reserve and whether they are bluffing or not with their willingness and/or ability to keep the BTC price down any further or any longer.
15176  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2019, 03:01:36 AM
It's odd that bitcoin jumped $25 in the last hour on coinbase but nowhere else, must be slippage. *shrugs shoulders*

$4k on the cusp of being tested.... again.


Go Bitcoin!!!!!!!!!   Go!

Chew.................

Choo.
15177  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2019, 06:01:17 PM
You are missing an important point: there will be no distribution, until the Coinlab lawsuit will be sorted out, at least in the first Court.
The reason is that the Coinlab claim, of about 16 billion $, is so (ridiculously) large that it's impossible to fairly attribute voting rights.
Until then, Kobayashi may decide (he did not promise to withhold from selling) to sell more BTC and BCH, if the Court will approve.

Since last time sold almost at top we should not expect any selling in next 2 years since they obviously know what they are doing.

You know?  Kobayashi san has proven to be a pretty sharp motherfucker in retrospect.

Um, no... Kobayashi would like to sell all soon, but there was strong objection from the creditors present at the meeting.
Anyway, since the forks other than BCH won't be distributed, they will be 100% sold, probably by auctioning the keys.

BCH includes both Bcash ABC and Bcash SV?  Both of those will continue to be held by the trustee, for now?
15178  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2019, 05:10:58 PM
Market updates today. The market is fully red, I think it will be green shoon. What is this actually red market or market correction?


This is nothing happening except ongoing consolidation within a range.. so in that regard, a few percentage in each direction is nothing to write home about. 

If you zoom out, it seems that the overall trend in the past few weeks is up within the range, yet such UP is taking place on a largely slow basis. 

Whether such UP will continue is another question that is yet to be answered.
15179  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2019, 08:17:02 AM
Speaking of old, the retirement age in my country is being pushed back. We'll have 70+ old people working till their grave pretty soon, lots of people will never get their pension. Anyone have strong feelings on this?

I hate to even address you, since you have been such a shithead, recently, but at least this topic is related to bitcoin and hopeful benefits and abilities of any of us to strive towards reaching "fuck you" status. 

Even if BTC HODLers/Accumulators cannot get themselves into total retirement status or make him/herself rich, with BTC HODLings, individuals may be able to either cause self to be able to retire earlier and/or to supplement any retirement (or less than adequate retirement) that may end up received.
15180  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2019, 04:47:12 AM

Arthur's bullish ... and twattish.

Yeah to be honest, I don't like the dude.  I think he and his exchange do more harm to BTC than good.  In my opinion the barts have a direct relationship to Bitmex.  When I first saw interviews I liked him, and I tend to resonate with some of his views. (kinda anti-ETH for example). But compare his stance and tone to Jack Dorsey's for example.  I feel like Dorsey is much more pro bitcoin.  Arthur is all about the money.  On the other hand Jack don't really need any more money. Wink

I don't really have anything against Arthur Hayes.  He is running a business that provides a lot of shorting tools to people, and he seems to be making a lot of money, already.. .I don't know if he really needs more money, but he likely does not have as much as Jack Dorsey.

Dorsey seems legit and self-made, so anyone who already has a few billion dollars, as you suggest, is not going to be in any kind of rush to get rich. He does not really seem that materialistic, but instead just does what he likes and pursues passions, including having curiosities about technical geek problems that now includes geeking out about bitcoin.. which seems to be good for bitcoin and for him, too, to pursue his geeky side, which seems genuine.
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