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If I'm to change my view from "we are not on a sphere" I need something that I experience for myself that would prove the spherical nature of the earth. Else, I am putting what I experience in my own life to the side to believe in what authority and consensus tells me.
For me the boat disappearing behind the curve just doesn't do it for me as with stronger and stronger viewing devices I can bring the ship back until the atmospheric conditions make that impossible. Yes I have really done this as when I was first introduced I tried to disprove it as a science project with my son. Its the same as watching your friend travel away from you a distance. He will start disappearing form the bottom half as he moves out in the distance.
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I think the question you need to ask is why does an object moving further away always disappear from the bottom? You know from your perspective research that as an object moves away from the viewer it gets smaller and smaller until it reaches an angular size that the naked eye can no longer distinguish from the background. It's at this point that you can use a camera, telescope or binoculars to bring the object back into view if their magnification levels are adequate. At no time does any edge of the object start to vanish before any other edge, this only occurs when another object obscures the original object. So taking all this into consideration, if an object starts to disappear from the bottom as it moves further away from you, what is obscuring the object? The bottom part of an object like a boat is obscured by a reflection of the area just above it. As the boat gets farther away it gets smaller and a complex form of superior mirage that's seen in a narrow band along the horizon called a Fata Morgana which remains the same size, covers more and more of it. Eventually the angular size of the boat is so small the entire vessel is engulfed by the mirage and disappears. edit: On a smaller scale, say watching an airplane on the runway taking off with the camera an inch off the ground, it's actually the ground rising up to eye level and blocking the view. Perspective in this case is obscuring the bottom. On a larger scale say fifty miles looking at the CN Tower it's atmospheric magnification or looming that's obscuring the bottom as the image is enlarged.
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Guess what kind of map sailors use? Hint: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRo6FoAj.jpg&t=663&c=rx1ZnERpcTa4Tw)
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A boat disappears bottom up into a mirage at the horizon and that's a provable fact. [boom] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDdwP0UcomkRIP IN PEPERONIS. Min 2:00 and beyond, you can see the lights showing where the mirage starts and ends clearly showing how more than half of the boat is hidden by the horizon mirage, I'm get getting rekt here. FTFY The video shows a boat being engulfed by a mirage exactly as I described. The bottom part of the ship is covered by a reflection of the area just above it. As the boat gets farther away it gets smaller as the mirage which remains the same size covers more and more of it. Eventually the angular size of the boat is so small the entire vessel is engulfed and disappears. Its great you're now admitting the mirage at the horizon is a fact but, you need to go the full distance and admit the Earth is flat, that or kill yourself.
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A boat disappears bottom up into a mirage at the horizon and that's a provable fact. [boom]
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I got you shills so fucking red handed here with your lies. Everybody with a P900 camera knows there's no hump of water three miles out tall enough to hide an entire sailboat. You can see a shoreline twenty or thirty miles across the water. It's also fucking obvious when you look at the horizon, it's perfectly flat and you fucking liars are claiming that over three miles there's a giant mound of water that a sailboat goes up, over and behind all while remaining perfectly vertical? You can literally film the reflections from the mirage at the horizon with your camera. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWPl8sMX.jpg&t=663&c=ku3ZPCPYtO90ag)
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvMtz47c.png&t=663&c=rAZbzCJ5DPEANQ) They're pretending that fata morgana mirages don't exist and claiming the effect caused by the mirage is actually a giant hump of water three miles out that ships are sailing up, over and behind. Fucking idiots or liars, take your pick.
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Are you stupid or you just want to trick yourself again into believing in this crap? Look at the bottom of the ship, it's completely perfect, no illusion at all, how does the fata morgana work, does it only work behind the ship but not affecting the ship or what, for fuck sake dude, wake the fuck up.
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fa9dCCAo.gif&t=663&c=vkOrGneJgLjb8w) Watch the birdie (the flying one), then go kill yourself. Where is the boat? When does that happen to the boat, ever? I answered the fucking question in my first reply:KYS When a ship approaches the horizon there's a mirror band caused by a mirage that forms at the water line, it obscures both the bottom of the ship and the top of the water. The magnitude or width of this mirror band is dependent on atmospheric conditions. As the ship travels further away convergence reduces its angular size and the mirror band covers more of it. Eventually the vanishing point is reached and the ship is no longer visible. There's no hump of curved water three miles out that ships sail up and over.
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Are you stupid or you just want to trick yourself again into believing in this crap? Look at the bottom of the ship, it's completely perfect, no illusion at all, how does the fata morgana work, does it only work behind the ship but not affecting the ship or what, for fuck sake dude, wake the fuck up.
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fa9dCCAo.gif&t=663&c=vkOrGneJgLjb8w) Watch the birdie (the flying one), then go kill yourself.
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LOL. All these fags are denying the existence of a fata morgana mirage at the horizon, they seem to think circle jerking will somehow make it go away. You guys are retarded, anybody can do the most basic research and see that's it's a real phenomenon. "A Fata Morgana is an unusual and complex form of superior mirage that is seen in a narrow band right above the horizon." -- Wikipedia [Close-up of ships at the horizon] [mirror band below the ship caused by a fata morgana mirage]
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"A Fata Morgana is an unusual and complex form of superior mirage that is seen in a narrow band right above the horizon." -- Wikipedia ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsjIxFTQ.png&t=663&c=QKg6cUOqJw2qVw) The Fata Morgana mirror band is part of the visible horizon and all horizons have it, the magnitude of the effect depends on atmospheric conditions. "average" conditions result in a narrow band as seen in the image above. In the image below taken with a much more powerful camera (Nikon P900) and of a much less symmetrical ship shape, the mirroring nature of the effect becomes apparent. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKxgx89K.jpg&t=663&c=4QktCHV-RE_FKg) There's no giant hump of curved water three miles out that ships are sailing up and over.
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KYS When a ship approaches the horizon there's a mirror band caused by a mirage that forms at the water line, it obscures both the bottom of the ship and the top of the water. The magnitude or width of this mirror band is dependent on atmospheric conditions. As the ship travels further away convergence reduces its angular size and the mirror band covers more of it. Eventually the vanishing point is reached and the ship is no longer visible. There's no hump of curved water three miles out that ships sail up and over. Where in the video is the water obscured? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3scuuWveAIThat is a mirage, educate yourself Fata Morgana is a type of mirage, kill yourself. "A Fata Morgana is an unusual and complex form of superior mirage that is seen in a narrow band right above the horizon." -- Wikipedia [Use a gas oven]
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGchylrV.jpg&t=663&c=7l_Sa3AERfFrgw) 911: "Fire, police or ambulance?" Vod: "Hello, Fire Department please!" CFD: "Go ahead caller." Vod: "I'm twenty kilometers south of Country Hills Boulvard on Deerfoot Trail and there's a major flood covering several city blocks of the highway." Vod: "I can see several vehicles trying to drive through the water." Vod: "This is a dangerous situation and the road needs to be closed immediately!"
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KYS When a ship approaches the horizon there's a mirror band caused by a mirage that forms at the water line, it obscures both the bottom of the ship and the top of the water. The magnitude or width of this mirror band is dependent on atmospheric conditions. As the ship travels further away convergence reduces its angular size and the mirror band covers more of it. Eventually the vanishing point is reached and the ship is no longer visible. There's no hump of curved water three miles out that ships sail up and over.
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Angular size reduction & convergence, atmosphereic lensing, magnification & refraction and mirage obfuscation, the angle light enters the observers eye and its elevation as well as the objects elevation. All these things need to be considered when analyzing what happens to a visible object as it approaches the horizon and vanishing point on a flat plane.
In the case of an aircraft since it's above you it visually decends down to the horizion at eye level. With a boat below you it visually rises up to the horizon as it approaches the vanishing point. This is convergence in action.
Can you see the problem here with claiming the boat sailed up, over and behind a curve three miles out? Say the aircraft is a helicopter shadowing the boat at low altitude.
911: "Fire, police or ambulance?" Vod: "Hello, Coast Guard please!" CG: "go ahead caller" Vod: "I just witnessed a helicopter travel straight down into the ocean three miles out." Vod: "It was following a boat that went up and over the curve!" Vod: "The helicopter just went straight down, my god the humanity!"
Yeah there is always some perspective illusion to save your arguments. You just throw around a few words and you are done, your brain is happy, you tricked yourself yet again. Tell me, why did PBS fake their proof that the Earth's surface has enough curve (24') at six miles to hide an entire helicopter in PBS Discovery Science Genius Episode 6? There's no reason to fake the proof unless it's actually flat. They used the same frame twice, one frame with a helicopter added via CGI. Why the fuck am I being fed hoaxed images if it's a globe? These fucking scammers are taking public funds and donations. It's time to go fucking kill yourself, go find an oven and crawl inside. Don't forget to turn on the gas, and blow out the pilot light first or you'll just cook yourself to death.
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Angular size reduction & convergence, atmosphereic lensing, magnification & refraction and mirage obfuscation, the angle light enters the observers eye and its elevation as well as the objects elevation. All these things need to be considered when analyzing what happens to a visible object as it approaches the horizon and vanishing point on a flat plane.
In the case of an aircraft since it's above you it visually decends down to the horizion at eye level. With a boat below you it visually rises up to the horizon as it approaches the vanishing point. This is convergence in action.
Can you see the problem here with claiming the boat sailed up, over and behind a curve three miles out? Say the aircraft is a helicopter shadowing the boat at low altitude.
911: "Fire, police or ambulance?" Vod: "Hello, Coast Guard please!" CG: "go ahead caller" Vod: "I just witnessed a helicopter travel straight down into the ocean three miles out." Vod: "It was following a boat that went up and over the curve!" Vod: "The helicopter just went straight down, my god the humanity!"
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If you like "theory", I'm currently looking into the New York giants. I suspect a world wide catastrophic event (1815) and coordinated efforts between the Jews, Jesuits and Masons (to name a few) were able to completely eliminate a race of giants (~ 12') that lived among us. They wiped their empire and culture from the history books and destroyed most physical evidence, took their land and pocketed everything of value.
How exactly are you looking into it? Was Youtube around in 1815? Be careful please, don't tell anyone you're doing this. If the deep fried state finds out about it you'll get wiped from history books or worse. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3HXAQld.jpg&t=663&c=ef8dtbX0JgRJxA) I think we've drifted off-topic here.
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People will be living on Mars in a few years and notbatman will still claim the earth is flat ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Fake people on fake Mars who got there on fake NASA SpaceX rockets. If anything - this would be a gold mine for notbatman. He thrives on conspiracy theories, the crazier the better. There's conspiracy fact like Flat Earth then there's "conspiracy theory", a term coined by CIA to help shield their activities from criticism. If you like "theory", I'm currently looking into the New York giants. I suspect a world wide catastrophic event (1815) and coordinated efforts between the Jews, Jesuits and Masons (to name a few) were able to completely eliminate a race of giants (~ 12') that lived among us. They wiped their empire and culture from the history books and destroyed most physical evidence, took their land and pocketed everything of value. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3aMyvPt.jpg&t=663&c=PEOQ30MxU2a2dg)
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Who likes empirical proof the Earth is motionless and the Sun moves? Shocking Solar Diameter Change, Fall Equinox-1 (v2) 1080p -- https://youtu.be/Ml24hflaDhU
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You have to be fairly dense to ignore all the proof in that video... Proof beyond a reasonable doubt that the video linked above by MisO69 "PBS Discovery Science Genius Episode 6" used fraudulent CGI imagery as their proof of a globe: https://youtu.be/mqoB0ucBOyg. It's Vod that deserves the scammer tag for being a liar and promoting bullshit.
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You have to be fairly dense to ignore all the proof in that video... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjvM1Q1b.jpg&t=663&c=jpCevb9UN94uDw) This is a great video about flat earth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVa2UmgdTM4 edit: <--- PBS Discovery Science Genius Episode 6Here we can see the curvature measured with a proper science experiment. It even has that most excellent robotic voice. But I doubt any of you flattards will watch this since you're already convinced of your superiority to the rest of humanity. You can say he defeated flat-earth arguments flat... flatly? I dunno, Need to rotate my globe and think about appropriate pun. I've looked at a few flat-earther videos on youtube, and I have come to the conclusion that round earth is reality ... If there was enough curvature at six miles to hide the helicopter while it was still in flight, they wouldn't need to fake it.
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjicQB9K.jpg&t=663&c=mWgCkoekQI7vow) Source: PBS Discovery Science Genius Episode 6 | https://youtu.be/mqoB0ucBOyg (7:51) This is your reality, please find an oven and go crawl inside. ---------> ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFnN1BeW.jpg&t=663&c=VepaCTJAnv-XYA) Bonus video: Exposing the Fraud Behind PBS Genius Episode 6 -- https://youtu.be/fZ_NH1goSLI (3:45:50)
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