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1561  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [NEWS] Bitcoin Provides Insurance Against Fiat Currency Failure on: May 19, 2023, 08:20:16 PM
Before doing this ensure the proper education related to this Market is required and you even can't be dependent on any broker haha. Yes, I do agree and support this motive that we should consider Bitcoin as a more safe and more stable holding as compared to fiat money because of inflation. But there are a few things or I should qualities you need to buildup before sensing it more stable.

Be calm,
Having Control over emotions
Be consistent
Be updated
Be Determined.

With these minor requirements you can say that Bitcoin is a more stable investment compared to others, Don't take the crypto market as a stable investment mark my words it's only Bitcoin.


1562  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What was your biggest fear with starting in crypto? on: May 19, 2023, 05:32:54 PM
Genuinely want to know what prevents your friends/gf/ colleagues from investing? Did you have any barriers when you first started?

I can tell you a hundred reasons I've heard and noticed with people in my circle but Honestly bro there was nothing that even stopped me even a bit from jumping into this field because even I didn't notice when I jumped into the market.

Because I've entered the crypto market unknowingly your student life. Hustle to make a few dollars and manage to boost my pocket money and show up in front of friends, this was the reason I got into the crypto market. Unintentionally after making mear efforts on Youtube, Facebook, and Blogging, I decided to join marketing then from some native YouTubers I got an Airdrop opportunity in the Blockchain wallet Airdrop was of XLM and I really got 25$ That was the happiest day of my life on those days Alhamdullialah after that I got many as well. After joining 6 months of scam Airdrops on Telegram I decided to quit and I did it. A few months later I got an email from the project HEX that "Airdrop has been distributed to your provided wallet" and then I started checking my Aidrop wallet and came to know if I got any tokens some are worth a few cents and some are few dollars but HEX was within $9. something. Luckily I was not sure how to withdraw and I never learned it for a few months again then when it reached around 30$ I decided to learn how to withdraw them. After that crypto became an important part of my life.

I didn't face any fear because I never took entry as an investor in the market, I learned and educated myself and now I am a minor Trader, Investor, and I don't know what to say more. That's all thanks if you are reading my story -Hamza
1563  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: does it worth to start mining now ? on: May 19, 2023, 02:03:23 PM
what do you guys think does it worth to start mining now ?

Do you have enough resources?
If yes. then bro do it.

First, make a  decision about it (Plan), and Plan your cost-to-earning ratio, Most importantly you need to figure out your cost and Mining Difficulty because time to time for solo traders mining new blocks become harder and harder as of after around every two weeks or 2016 blocks Bitcoin network adjust the Difficulty level to stabilize the production of the blocks mining average time in 10 minutes.

Keeping it simple you can join if you have cheap electricity and good Equipments and Location. You can join mining pools but you should prefer solo mining if you have good resources. to energy consumption idea on Bitcoin network you can follow these stats

26000TWH Energy was consumed
365 Days
52560 Blocks
Total Bitcoins = 328500


Per Block energy consuption= 494 KWH and with that 79 KHW per Bitcoin power was used in total.
1564  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Investing in Bitcoin in Student Life on: May 19, 2023, 12:39:47 PM

Also, I have no problem to NOT diversify and ONLY focus on one (Bitcoin in this case) (or perhaps more than one) investment asset during the period in which a person is first building his/her investment portfolio, and really I cannot be sure about how much income OP might be expecting to get, but for me, it can be difficult to imagine how to measure exactly would be a meaningful size for an investment portfolio without having some kind of an idea regarding the size of OP's expected post graduation income, and I doubt that any of us need to know the size of the income, but frequently we still might well be able to measure if the size of our investment portfolio might start to be getting large if we can measure it in terms of how much we believe that it will cost us to live each year (which sometimes can be partially reflected in the size of an expected annual income).  So in that regard, if any of us is starting to get our investment portfolio up to the size of one year's income, then we are likely starting to get to meaningful amounts, and if we start to get to the size of 20x to 30x the size of our expected annual income (or how much we believe that we need to live comfortably), then we are starting to get to entry-level fuck you status...


Hmm, Diversification is not a big problem if the investors know what he is really doing, even sometimes diversification of the investment portfolio helps to control the TVL in Invetsemnt +Bonus it controls your stress level (How? it think most of us know about it). My graduation is almost going to be completed in the coming years same days. I am trying to stabilize my own expenses somehow and after a few months I've started building my investment portfolio my aim is clear in my eyes. My belief is the First breakthrough in the trapped financial cycle is hard next to it we can go easy.

One year of total income investment seems very tough but I think Rather than investing 1 year of total income to build an investment portfolio we can start making investments with smaller amounts it will take around 3 to 4 years to build the same investment portfolio, during this timeline, you can prepare yourself for the next cycle by learning and improving skills in the market.

As JJG you said before my retirement I want a satisfying lifestyle for me and my family which needs some important financial decisions, Because I don't believe in savings I think Investment amounts are actually real savings for the future. Whatever we'll store now is not gonna worth anything in the future.

It all depends on How eeficently you can plan. -HAmza
1565  Economy / Economics / Re: Kraken, UK trade body derides lawmaker description of crypto as ‘gambling’ on: May 18, 2023, 08:51:51 PM
Bitcoin is a commodity, most altcoins like ether are securities. Why can lawmakers think that crypto are like gambling. Are the lawmakers right about this?

It really depends on the jurisdictions that are it a commodity, asset, currency, or store of value quite similar to each other but actually very different in their role. We can define bitcoins as a Number 1 some call it one, and others prefer 1/1 also sometimes we use First. It all depends on the consumer who needs it. For many days there is a continuous scene of replying and reading posts dealing to the Bitcoin role. I was supporting it as currency somewhere and somewhere I did accept it as an asset and commodity but now on the end I am standing with the perspective. Whatever you call it it will remain Bitcoin.

Rest of the OP's concern and information is relating the crypto to gambling and I think Op's words are enough to explain that Crypto is not gambling and in am sure 99% on it but for the Bitcoin is not Gambling i am 99.999999% sure
1566  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Tether to buy Bitcoin based on monthly net profits on: May 18, 2023, 08:41:07 PM
Feels like LUNA in terms of how the value backing by other crypto but completely different since it’s Bitcoin backing them while UST is backed by their own currency too. An attack to the company will clear do a double damage to them because they are same while Tether is using Bitcoin which is a different entity. Bitcoin is performing very solid for many years and also they only use 15% of their revenue unlike dumb Luna that directly pegged the price on their token value by manipulating the token supply.

Tether is the most use stablecoin in crypto market. I think this move is very good in long term since they are generating huge profit in bear or bull season because trader never stop trading stablecoins.


That the fact people will not stop trading the stablecoins but my concern is about their pegge potential because whenever I use to visit their reserves, it always put me into a new curiosity that why and how they can decide to put all of their reserves (Maximum Value) in the Security Bonds, Such type of decisions can lead them towards the destruction I know many people do trust USDT but because many do should we do too. A scenario can change everything because on the centralized exchanges liquidity behaves differently if some try to manipulate it with a good amount of money they manipulate it and I am not sure how much Teather is ready for such a crisis.

LUNA's Ecosystem apparently was great but there were some in death fundamental mistakes as one of them mentioned by you, Bitcoin is another entity I know there is no one here to manipulate the total supply, but for the security bonds who knows?
1567  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is "dying". on: May 18, 2023, 07:45:50 PM
Hmm I have seen some of your posts as well, and I d agree with your point of view I am also shocked how the narratives are destroying the community core and most of the people who support the new ideas on Bitcoin are destroying the base and core concept are New joiners. Most people even don't know that Bitcoin is a payment mode not an asset with the passage of time most people now think Bitcoin is just a store of value which I disagree with because it will affect the future potential. A store of value can be called one of the Milestones. Many Bitcoin development narratives came and gone but Bitcoin is standing.

A few Narratives are as follows which I think one of the most supported ones;

✱ Speculative Investment
✱ Alternative to Fiat Currencies / Destroyer / Nightmare to Fiat
✱ Financial Empowerment
✱ Bitcoin as a Store of Value
1568  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: May 18, 2023, 05:31:53 PM
Reply to illegally allegations


Shan85 bhai sab jee sano daso asi kahan support karin you ko?

Koi aik allegation hoti tu na... chlain maan lia ap ne ghalti signature aage peche kiye but phir jo iss thread main ap k khilaf jo charge sheet tiyar hoi hia iss ka jawab tu community kia ap khud justify nahi kar sakte.

Pehle ilzaam : Wearing Double signature (Shan85)
Dosra ilzaam : five connected account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5452979.msg62254001#msg62254001
Teesara ilzaam: Here's some connections on the ETH side of things https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5452979.msg62254976#msg62254976
Chootha ilzaam : One more https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5452979.msg62255984#msg62255984

sirf 2 din main logon 3 pages bhar diye hian.... ap ap batao ye community apko kahan support karay aur kese defend karay?

Abi ap Full Member banay the...

Anyway warning to all of us please ap jinte marzi smart banain aaj nahi tu kal... بکرے کی ماں کب تک خیر منائے گی Smiley

Exactly sir g He can't say even a word about getting support I have all the proofs that he intentionally did this, So he should bother us anymore. Humm support karte agar koi zara sii bi Gunjaish hoti ispe.

Mujhe sir itna gusaa ku ka sir galttii karte then kehte Senior ne guide nai kia loo gii galat kam khud karain malbaa hum pe dalian. Jab main ne ye dekha because I was the first one who watches because you know for a long time I am working with roysee so I have followed him one each and every post to be updated, He posted that he removed shan85 + tagged him red I was shocked why then there was a case filed by the Shasan and after that I was like is he a kid he is cheating by joining two signatures and expecting nothing will happen.

Then my reaction post you all know after that main ne Zain bhai see baat ki ku ka isne khud kaha ka ye zain se kuch bat cheet kar raha, then main ne zain se poora mjra suna and all allegations are not allegations these are the facts.

Chood dain sir ispe abb kia baat karain humm Jo assal mala bana howa ospe baat akrte hain..



Crypto BAN is it Gonna Happen Really

Too sab se pehle you all know what happened now mere kuch views hain woo ap loog sun lain...

First This is currently a Hot topic and our concern Ye just Tresurry meeting ma Comments the ka Crypto ko Ban kia jye ga KAb? ye nai pata.
Second Banning a few sites cant BAn crypto.
Third, if they really want then it requires Law Imposing, and policy-making, and ye current political crisis ma Impossible haaa.
State Bank ka abi take mujhe koi official comment ya Notficiation anzar nai aya so abi malaat itne kharab nai hain.


1569  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: May 17, 2023, 11:42:07 PM
Ab tu Binance ne be keh dia hai they monitoring the situation... means wakai dal main kuch kala aagia hai Sad


Poori daal hi kaali ha Sir g.

Ye jo conference thi isme jo figures samne aye wo sare ka sare galat the, kaha gya ka crypto scam ha total scam reason kia dete hain sir g ka 16K cryptocurrencies lunch ho chuki first point ka more then 21k ya 22k cryptocurrencies lunch ho chuki as per latest data jo data ink dia ya oska pata nai wo konse outdated media outlet ne dia inko.

Next kehte hain ye scam ha ku miss market ka total market capital $2.5T+ see $1.2T pa a gya haa in see zara poochian phir to apki stock market sabse badi scammer ha haha facts haa hii nai inke passs, or sabse badi baat inse poochain ka $16B+ ka reserves the Pakistan ka and now after PD we are in negative ratings and numbers to Haram to poora mulk hi scam howa ni phir. Also ye bi bta dain ye loog konsi Invetsment market always Bullish rehti ha mujhe to esi koi market nazar nai aii haha.
1570  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Supercycle? on: May 17, 2023, 11:36:00 PM
Supercycle seems new to be interesting but what you are asking for is not possible in my perspective because in the market cycle, we have seen there most of the time 3 out of 4 years market stays Bullish, and 1 year of a Bearish run. But in those, even Bullish years market stays non-contiguously Bullish over all year can be called Bulllish in general. The fact is in different time frames market behaves differently last week was a bloodbath so it was bearish but we can't call it a bear run because the total return at the end of the year is not negative.

Take the market on a wider time frame as 7 years or 10 years you will find it contiguously Bullish for shorter timeframes you'll find volatility which is the beauty of the market.
1571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Tether to buy Bitcoin based on monthly net profits on: May 17, 2023, 02:38:13 PM
My views on the tether are very strong and this is one of the most shady stablecoin projects ever. Be careful whoever is holding a decent amount in this coin because this many times reminded you that the next major crisis is gonna be related to the tether. As most of the reserves are on equities and bonds whatever they call it short-term or whatever but they can't provide enough liquidity on the spot if USDT gets de-pegged and that's gonna be a great disaster again.

If they are thinking to increase their BTC reserves it's great but it is again alarming for us because it will lead to more volatility in the market if any fud occurs similar to the LUNA. If any fud occurs and USDT gets de-pegged for the liquidity team will sell out Bitcoin as LUNA's team did and that will lead more market volatility.

There are a few key features of Tether;

♣ Lack of Transperency.
♣ Unconfident Reserves.
♣ Regulatory Risks.
♣ Counter Party Risks.
♣ Uncofident Supply (Token Printing).
1572  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: May 17, 2023, 06:49:45 AM


wa alaikum us Salam

Bhai kia huwa muje kuch smaj nahe aya? ap kis ki bath kar rahe? Etna ghusa apka aaj thak nahe dikha, i think koi serious maamla paish aya hai. Ap ne Shan85 bhai ko tag kia hai kia us ne kuch kia hai? muje tho us k baare mai etna pata hai k wo hamare sith jis compaign mai joined hai waha par Royse ne usko red kar k reject kia hai q k us ne double signature pe apply kia tha aur dono jaga i think accept n huwa tha magar us ne Royse ko Shahid bathaya nahe tho Royse ne usko scamm with double Sig ka aizaz dia huwa hai.

Saare saathi eska khial rKhe k zarori nahe k apka post 3-4 paragraph ho magar to the point hona zarori hai. AIChat, copy paste wagira se belkul ijtinab kare. kher hai ap 4 k bajae 2 post kare magar sahi kia kare , es tarah ap ko inshaAllah masla nahe aaega. Agar kahi jaga se image otai ho ya koi fiqra etc tho uska source link zaror diya kare tha k baad mai pachtawa na ho.

Apko nai pata bhai, Pehle to main ye janna chahon ga are you trying to defend? koi allegation nai ha just pooch raha hon becasue main ye reply ye consider kar ka de raha ka apko kuch nai pata.

ItsCrfty i am not sure username sai ha ya nai lekin ye new member hain hamari community ka and inko bi for plagiarism nikal dia gya haa may be inko report bi kia gya ho moderator koo. Next Shan85 ye bi new member hain from 2 months and he accumulated a lot of merits how ye main batana zarori nai samjhta as kuch batain na kahi jain to behtar hota haa.

So baat sariii ye ha ka inhon ye intentionally double cheat kia campaigns ko toe arn a few dollars and apne account ko Red tag karwa lia even allegation flags active hain and i have supported the flag after reading the case created by the Shasan. Ye jo sara kam howa oska ultimate ye ha ka hamari community ma log ye kam kar rehe joo ka bohat embarising haa boss it will directly impact jaab bi hum forum ka meta section ma ya ksi bi Thread pa baat karian ge wo kahian ge ka ye community hi spammers ki ha (Maximum).

Ye waja ha ka main itna zyada gussa hon building good reputation is very hard and from a long time IrfanPak_10 and Shahzadafzal aik reputation building ka safar pa gamzan hain and they gained alot Alhamdullilah (Reputation) jab koi hamari community se esi harkat hoti oska overall impact jata haa community ka  baree maa. Main again kahon ga newbies ko support karna aik jaga but spam control ka lia merit distribution control ki jaye ye 3 t 4 months se bohat zayda ho gai haa.

1573  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There is something wrong with understanding Bitcoin on: May 16, 2023, 11:28:07 PM
Hmm comparing the Gold investment or any type of other commodity or Asset's investment with Bitcoin is completely wrong. Bitcoin used to be called a Digital Asset but in reality, it's been just a payment mode. Now coming to the investment point most people use to convert their money to safe investments to secure their value but they don't take risks to make huge profits this type of investment can not be comparedbitcoinnSuchhthe type of Investment done in Gold, Silver or any other asset or commodity. Bitcoin is a risky market where investors through their money by knowing the risk to earn huge returns on it. Things should be clear now about Investing in assets and Bitcoin.
1574  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: May 16, 2023, 06:56:46 PM
-Snip-

Asslam o Alikum Community,

Ye kia ho raha ajkal Who are these spammer for a few amount of money they ruining our reputation 😔 so embarrassing in every month a spammer comes and earn merit by assuring us that he will do good and we do support him  by giving merits. He do some stupid things after getting ranked up and boom 💥  gets banned for doing ^^^^^.

I am rude today because this is second report of the day and regular resport from 3 to 4 months.


Yaar kia karna ese paisa kama ka lanat ha ese pessy paa Haram khane se achaa ha bhookee rehhh loo. Signature is not full time earnings its just part time learn some skills as student meri sabse request ha newbies ko support karna band karain support him after few months of activity otherwise results ap dekh rehe hoo. Yaar qasam international communities ma hamari kia izat reh jatii ese kamon k baad. Please stop this. My request to Shahzadafzal, Umeridress, Syeds56, Zainmalik75, Themepen,Mfahad and IrfanPak_10 please app merits sooch smjh ka share karain. Humain ese Board ki shyed Signature and Clients hi naa milain jo hamari community ka kuch spammers ki Harkaat hain.


Try to avoid spell and grammar i will edit it out posted in hurry PC is down.
1575  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You are still very early on: May 16, 2023, 06:44:46 PM
I am really not sure about it whether we are early or late but comparing the opportunity that recently passed I think the people who were in but were actually out by investing are really late now. Still, there is a time you have to pay the price by cutting down the profit potential you were able to make but now you can but still profits are waiting for you. Sounds Stupid naah I don't think so.

Anyway OP is guiding us well we should never lose hope as I am also waiting for more Opportunities because I've also missed a lot but my reason was my funds issues beside that now Alhamdulillah I am able so I am trying to grab as much as I can.

Sike - It's BTC you are never late, Just be patient.
1576  Economy / Economics / Re: [Article] How ChatGPT Will Destabilize White-Collar Work on: May 16, 2023, 05:31:52 PM
AI is good, it works faster and cheaper and you can modify it on each layer which gives a wide range of features, Consider Chatgpt you can do literally as many things as you want with it. For example, I got a University Project importing data to Teradata and the data was quite big at least n my scale and there was a restriction it should be imported by manual process,

♣ Traditional Scripting
♣ Table creation
♣ Long Queries

So simple I just copied data and created queries and modified text with a few commands rest of the importing process was easy as the main work was managing and modifying the data as columns names, tables, etc. It took some time but worked for me. I will say that it's like fast food AI is good. But it's not much impressive because the currency efficiency level is limited as I said I also modified data with ChatGPT but out of 5 commands it works well with only 1 or 2 commands. It gives pretty average results currently I think white-collar jobs had no issue with AI for the future I am not sure.

Future targets of AI can be, but currently they are safe around 80% in my views.

♣ Devlopers
♣ Content writers
♣ Graphic designers
♣ SEO Experts

Ai writes, creates, develop decent but the quality which even an average developer creator and optimizer can provide it still much better then then the AI. Its good for quick works for Quality production there is still a decent time & developemnts required.
 
1577  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: May 16, 2023, 05:10:10 AM

Kon etna bara haasid hai jis ko jalan ho rahe the k mai kuch reward yaha se le loo? es waja se k mai PTI ka supporter nahe hoo? Jis ne b kia hai , Allah tho dikh raha hai. Bahot afsos huwa , agar ap ne bthana hee tha tho muje message kar dithe k ye masla hai ap k posts k sath.

Esii koi baat nai ha jani isme galtii apki bi ha ap Palgrism ka case a nominated hoo so its a big deal, ku ka palgrism is stritly prohibted arroud 3 4 members of our community already faced this even they got banned.Baqi yahan pe ICO ne kaha ha ka native speaker aybe koi orrr ho hamari community ka illawa. Agar community ma se kisi ne report kia ya confirm kia to osko essa nai karna cahiye tha osko phele apko bta dena chaiye thaa.

Rahi baad Haasid ki i dont think so koi Hassad karta yahan paa becasue most of users Alhamdullilah Allah pak ka karam ha ka already in the Signature earnings accepted hain orr wo achaa khasa earn kar rehe hain.


Wa Allaikum Assalam, ji Kafi impressive as always but iss month thoory kharab ho sakty haa, q ky iss month the one and only pawa shahzadafzal   bro Kafi absenties karchuky haa aur abhi net ki bandesh ki wajah sy aur bhi absent hogai jis ka direct affect yeh howa ky merit ki kushksali hogaye haa, jis ki wajah sy thread ma activity aur dino ky mukably km hogaye ha. Aur Kafi active members ki posting flow slow hogaye just like shan

Hmm ye to haa wessy. Khair dekhi jaye gii haa wessy iss baar ka stats intresting honge.
1578  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 15, 2023, 09:31:43 PM
What it could be considered as? An indication that we are on the journey of continued decentralization & Diversification of supply. I will consider it as Progress toward the ideal goal.
Hmm everything is debatable weather its having negative or positive nature.


Source
1579  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin IS an asset. Do you think it's bad? on: May 15, 2023, 09:11:23 PM
I was taking Bitcoin as an asset before but recently a few months ago I realized my mistake and now I have the same opinion as most of the people here have. It was primarily designed as a P2P medium of exchange and it should need to be always a medium of exchange. There is nothing wrong if anyone wants to invest here by the narrative of the asset. The Original idea has many edges on the asset. The following things might get affected or you might get affected if you consider BTC as Asset;

-Volatility: BTC is known for its volatile nature by declaring it as an asset it will lose its volatility.
-Limited Adoption
-Whales Market Manupaltion will also Boom
-Lack of intrinsic value


 
1580  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the difference between banks and big whales in crypto? on: May 15, 2023, 07:40:43 PM
Banks are earning big profit from our deposits, they earn bigger than the interest that we get from our deposit because they put a bigger interest rate through thier borrower's or lenders, i think bank is not too far from big whales in crypto they buy or collect coins in dip and they sell in bull and they earn bigger from the holders that sell at loss  they are almost the same or what? What dou you think?

This is Unfair comperison both are different entities in the financial and sector and by their mean of definition. Still in your views my words are..

Their Strategy seems to be the same but it's not the same in fact. Understand Whales accumulate and they show patience and then they never sell all it to like getting fixed interests their profits are way bigger than the Fixed APY's, Also Banks are the institutes that have many sources to generate money but the whales are fully dependent on the market. Banks had nothing to do with the market and its circulation circle but on the same point Whale's whole investment results are dependent on the market and circulation.

-Banks Earn by:

  • Intrests
  • Transection Fees
  • Imposing different Policies / Investments
  • Service Fees

-Whales Earn by:

  • Investment returns
  • Trading
  • Staking


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