Both Zerocoin and Zerocash are abject trash until they demonstrate that the necessary key can be created in a trustless manner. I doubt that is possible. Even if it is, there will always be a degree of doubt. The consequences of such a key being retained and misused would be disastrous. Why even take the risk when there are other solutions without this issue? Perhaps zero knowledge proofs will have some applications, but a cryptocurrency is not one of them.

Is ANC under a blockchain spam attack like XMR was some days ago?

No blocks since five hours and Network Hashrate @ 12.47 GH/s

Last blocks are all with 29 tx of small amounts to AJqUPzbF6epPjkyoGhV1VKYJL68nYBaSQS

Now we can see the importance of the algo...

I'm curious if people are using anoncoins in a silkraod style marketplace now adays.

I'm not looking to participate but was thinking that might shed some speculative light on which anoncoin was going to pull ahead.

So what say you anoncoin fans coin supporters, are people currently using anoncoins to sell and buy drugs?

other then bytecoin has been for the last 2 years of course

Thanks for all the feedback!!  

It's soon time to move away from i2psam now, and over to libi2p btw, more tomorrow @ PS weekly

Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

I thought that the Zerocoin team abandoned the project and had transitioned to Zerocash. I guess I am having a hard time understanding why they would do this if Zerocash has the security implementations you mentioned.. printing money anonymously. I can see how that could be possible and I seem to remember reading about this at one point, so I do not believe you are making it up. Can you please explain that to me.. why they would transition from Zerocoin to Zerocash if that is the case? Or, have they since abandoned Zerocash and went back to the Zerocoin project? That is kind of confusing! Nevertheless, I will look into ZeroCash's possible security implications and re-asses my synopsis and opinion. I had taken Zerocoin off of the list and replaced it with Zerocash based off of the understanding they had shifted gears to Zerocash.

As to Anoncoin, I am trying to judge crypto currency projects based only on the features that their current release has (unless they don't have a current release and are only in development.) Was my synopsis for Anoncoin correct when taking this into account? The only reason for doing it this way is because I have no way of knowing if planned features will ever make it to a release. There have been a lot of developers that have promised <insert feature here> and failed to deliver. For what it's worth, I did mention that you guys were in the process of implementing Zerocoin and would reassess it when you have successfully done that. Anoncoin currently has Tor and i2p capability, did I miss anything else like a coin join implementation?? Or, are you guys focusing on implementing Zerocoin?

Why do Newbie account seem to be the experts all the time  lol

account #340,001 created 

THIS IS NOT INVESTMENT ADVICE. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

All opinions stated here are certainly debatable, if you think I'm wrong about something then please let me know. I will take everything said to heart, but I will still form my own opinions which will be posted here in the OP. Feel free to bring anything to my attention- by posting my opinions here I would like to incite debate, not give investment advice. Please let me know if I have made a factual error somewhere.

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List Of Innovative Crypto Currencies And Decentralized Applications/Corporations/Funds

If you think I have left an innovative crypto currency project out, then feel free to let me know. However, every project that will be included on this list will be up to my sole discretion as to whether it is innovative or not. Projects are listed in alphabetical order. Some descriptions have been copied from each respective project's web page and/or thread due to the amount of time it would take me to write a custom description for each one. Credits for the descriptions go to each project. If you'd like to help me maintain this list, there is a list of crypto currencies I plan on adding at the bottom of this post. Please use the same format that I have used here, and include a short description & important links.

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Anoncoin
Anoncoin was released on June 06, 2013.
Website: http://anoncoin.net
Forums: http://forum.anoncoin.net
Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309716.0
Discussion thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.0
Twitter: https://twitter.com/anoncoinproject

Anoncoin was the first cryptocoin that supports the i2p & TOR darknet. With the addition of being fully tor compatible there is a huge possibility of hiding in plain sight by transferring coins using the darknets only. This  kind of transfer across darknets, exchanges, and "coin mixers" can help you ensure that the coins you received initially either from mining, purchasing, or as payment of services can be fully scrambled and thus not traceable back to your wallet. Even if the blockchain is studied in detail there will be no way to tell which coins belong to what wallet, nor any kind of ID.

My Opinion (on Anoncoin): SELL - Although Anoncoin was the first crypto currency to implement i2p and Tor to the wallet client, it still has a public block chain like Bitcoin- all transactions are out in the open for anyone to do block chain analysis on. Therefore Anoncoin is only pseudo anonymous, just like Bitcoin, and in my opinion this is one of the weakest anon coins as far as anonymity goes. Although Anoncoin is in the process of implementing an older version of Zerocoin, it does not seem like it will ever be more anonymous than Zerocash, there are already anonymous coins out there, and I fear the Zerocoin implementation may be too little too late. If they do implement ZeroCoin technology I will reassess this at a later date.

My Opinion (on the innovation): Implementing Tor and i2p to the client is a good step forward in protecting privacy. Masking peoples IP addresses through the use of Tor/i2p is a necessary step for a completely anonymous crypto currency. People are quick to assume that privacy is only needed by criminals, or if you are doing something wrong that you would like to hide. However, this couldn't be further from the truth. There are numerous reasons why the average joe that has nothing to hide should want to keep his or her financial information private. Bitcoin is only pseudo anonymous and Bitcoin addresses can be linked to identities several ways, further increasing the privacy of crypto currencies is important to protect the end users. Unfortunately Anon coin suffers from the same issue.

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Zerocash (formerly Zerocoin)
In development.
Website: http://zerocash-project.org/
Brief Description of How Zerocash Works: http://zerocash-project.org/how_zerocash_works
FAQ: http://zerocash-project.org/q_and_a
Shortened Whitepaper: http://zerocash-project.org/media/pdf/zerocash-oakland2014.pdf
Full Whitepaper: http://zerocash-project.org/media/pdf/zerocash-extended-20140518.pdf
Unofficial Update Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362468.0
Twitter: https://twitter.com/ZerocashProject
Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Zerocash/

Zerocash is a new protocol that provides a privacy-preserving version of Bitcoin (or a similar currency). Zerocash fixes an inherent weakness of Bitcoin: every user's payment history is recorded in public view on the block chain, and is thus readily available to anyone. While there are techniques to obfuscate this information, they are problematic and ineffective. Instead, in Zerocash, users may pay one another directly, via payment transactions that reveal neither the origin, destination, or amount of the payment. This is a marked improvement compared to Bitcoin (and similar decentralized digital currencies), where every payment's information is made public for the whole world to see. Zerocash improves on an earlier protocol, Zerocoin, developed by some of the same authors, both in functionality (Zerocoin only hides a payment's origin, but not its destination or amount) and in efficiency (Zerocash transactions are less than 1KB and take less than 6ms to verify).

Zerocash extends the protocol and software underlying Bitcoin by adding new, privacy-preserving payments. In doing so it forms a new protocol that, while using some of the same technology and software as Bitcoin, is distinct from it. This new protocol has both anonymous coins, dubbed zerocoins, and non-anonymous ones, which, for purposes of disambiguation, we call basecoins. In contrast to Bitcoin's transactions, payment transactions using the Zerocash protocol do not contain any public information about the payment's origin, destination, or amount; instead, the correctness of the transaction is demonstrated via the use of a zero-knowledge proof. Users can convert from basecoins to zerocoins, send zerocoins to other users, and split or merge zerocoins they own in any way that preserves the total value. Users may also convert zerocoins back into basecoins, though in principle this is not necessary: all transactions can be made in terms of zerocoins.

My Opinion (on Zerocash): BUY/HOLD - From the outside looking in, Zerocash seems to be one of the most truly anonymous crypto currencies in development. Furthermore, it was created and is being developed by very smart individuals heavily involved in Cryptography research in academia. I find it hard to believe that they will release a sub par crypto currency for those reasons.

My Opinion (on the innovation): People are quick to assume that privacy is only needed by criminals, or if you are doing something wrong that you would like to hide. However, this couldn't be further from the truth. There are numerous reasons why the average joe that has nothing to hide should want to keep his or her financial information private. Bitcoin is only pseudo anonymous and Bitcoin addresses can be linked to identities several ways, further increasing the privacy of crypto currencies is important to protect the end users.

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Say your opinion!

A hypothetical question that does not necessarily have any ulterior motive; If Anoncoin switched hashing algorithm, what type of hashing algorithm would you liked to see then?

What is the advantage of associating anoncoin with darkmarkets? All of the resulting mainstream publicity would be bad and most people would use bitcoin anyway. Is there some benefit though?

What do you all think of BitXBay, the first decentralized marketplace? Here are two short articles about it:

https://exploreb2b.com/articles/bitxbay-the-worlds-first-decentralized-and-anonymous-marketplace
http://coinbrief.net/bitxbay-bitcoin-decentralized-market/

I spoke to the developer by email, and he would like to add support for anoncoin, but for a fee of 1000 usd. I'm not too happy about paying to play. At the same time, though, the project appears to be underfunded, so perhaps this fee would go to a good cause.

I really think that it would be great to associate Anoncoin to these darkmarkets from the start. This might be a good opportunity. He claimed that anoncoin integration would take a month, perhaps less.

bitcoin config: rpcallowip

EXCEPTION: N5boost16exception_detail10clone_implINS0_19error_info_injectorINS_15program_op tions14invalid_syntaxEEEEE      
unrecognized line in 'rpcallowip'      

rpcallowip=true

If you can telnet into port 8332 (proving a firewall isn't blocking it) and you've already double checked your .conf for errors then I'm coming up blank.

sudo telnet localhost 8332

Trying ::1...
Trying 127.0.0.1...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused

Shot in the dark, but might the connection be being blocked by firewall software on your PC?

edit... It's been forever for me, but I think you need to specify your bitcoind user and pass in a text file somewhere.

found it... ~/.bitcoin/bitcoin.conf

$ ./bitcoind getinfo

<?php
  require_once 'jsonRPCClient.php';
 
  $bitcoin = new jsonRPCClient('http://user:password@127.0.0.1:8332/');
 
  echo "<pre>\n";
  print_r($bitcoin->getinfo());
  echo "</pre>";
?>

PHP Warning:  fopen(http://...@127.0.0.1:8332/): failed to open stream: Connection refused in .../jsonRPCClient.php on line 132
PHP Fatal error:  Uncaught exception 'Exception' with message 'Unable to connect to http://user:password@127.0.0.1:8332/' in .../jsonRPCClient.php:140
Stack trace:
#0 ...bitcoingetinfo.php(9): jsonRPCClient->__call('getinfo', Array)
#1 .../getinfo.php(9): jsonRPCClient->getinfo()
#2 {main}
  thrown in .../jsonRPCClient.php on line 140

Again, if you have a point, an opinion, an argument, fine. But ad hominem is for morons who can't think.

I'm not trying to make enemies but I'm not trying to make friends either.

I'm just offering my opinion.

I don't doubt that you have a lot of college degrees, but I question their value.

You and several others on this thread have excellent rhetorical skills but there seems little substance behind them.

As for the devs credibility, when they dropped the mask they lost it. They jumped into the jello pit to wrestle over "which coin is most anonymous".

1) Yes there is interest obviously in coins with anonymity. Nobody doubts that. So what point are you making? You are saying "there is an interest in privacy coins, therefore anoncoin is justified in..." what? Making that its only focus?