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15621  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Innosilicon T2T 30T review on: November 11, 2019, 03:37:37 AM
Nice 80% fans.

Now if they only used a target of 65C for the boards  then you would be sitting pretty.  Fans would lower to maybe 70%

My T2 T24  is 15 months old with no issues  and fans run at 100%
My T3  T39  is  5 months old with no real issues and fans run at 100%
My T3  T50  is  2 months old with no issues and fans run at 100%

two underhash and        over watts
one hashing on spec but over watts

I would grade  the gear at a   B or B+
15622  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain to release S17E 64TH on: November 11, 2019, 03:03:36 AM
Well def no shipments or coupons or credit for my order yet, s17e Nov1-10th slightly disappointing to have had it placed 6 minutes into the sale going live and still nada ....

That has nothing to do with it.  They are late for all of us.

1 day and counting.

Figures I ordered a ton from them because they have yet to be late the entire year and now they are late.

Oh well.
15623  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: WTS a LOT 2 x Bitmain S15 28T and 3 x Bitmain S15 27T - Price: $6500 NV USA on: November 10, 2019, 02:25:42 PM
Yes Sir, I am not selling mine but if I were, I have about 100 that I would let go for $850.00 each. Sorry for the bad news.

I am not trying to break his balls but 850 to 1000 each is much closer to the right price.
15624  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [DAILY FREE RAFFLE]400th ฿ECAUSE I AM STILL IN A GOOD MOOD FREE PHYSICAL ฿ITCOIN on: November 10, 2019, 01:41:05 PM
Come on 61.

BTW  I would have taken 62 as that is my age but someone beat me to it.
15625  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: More bad news for Microbt CEO is being held for questioning!. on: November 10, 2019, 12:47:53 PM
Searing do you remember the tv show Dallas  a bunch of rich mofos  trying to hurt each other.

Looks to me  like these is just about the same.
15626  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: WTS a LOT 2 x Bitmain S15 28T and 3 x Bitmain S15 27T - Price: $6500 NV USA on: November 10, 2019, 12:45:08 PM
so 5x 28= 140   th

6500 is far too much.

i have 7 whats miner m10 for sale  they do 200th on high speed and about 140th on low speed.

and i want far less. 


your price is not realistic.

5 new t17 are only 5400 and do 210th

with full trump tax and shipping they are maybe 6500 and do 210th.

Well,  T17 42T is $1082 in China + Tax 27.6% + shipping ($110 - $130). On the end it cost: $1490-$1510 per miner. 5 miners - $7450 - $7550.

so you are not including coupons.  And even if someone is maxxed trump taxed  and he or she pays  1510 for one  they can get 4 for 6040  and have 168 th  while you are asking 6500 for 140th.

He can pay paypal with six months to pay.  you want btc now.

your price is not realistic.  actually I don't get into 'dissing' a price asked  or offered but you are not going to sell them at 6500 or even 6000.  I am only suggesting you ask a price that will work for a sale.

As I said I am offering m10 units far lower then your price
bitmain is lower the your price and takes paypal.
you had more then one person tell you the asking price is far too high.

I think these will sit for quite  a while .
15627  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [DAILY FREE RAFFLE]400th ฿ECAUSE I AM STILL IN A GOOD MOOD FREE PHYSICAL ฿ITCOIN on: November 10, 2019, 12:35:33 PM
I am going to grab the newspaper and some coffee

 come  on number 61.
15628  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain Introduces the S17+ and T17+ on: November 10, 2019, 04:17:41 AM
With DHL  it has been on the item price.

So 799 or less you are good.

Coupons don't help you out.

ie a t17 at 1082 using a 300 dollar coupon drops to 782  plus shipping.

but usa / dhl  will tend to charge  27.6% on 1082 = 298 and say 22 for processing or 320 on that unit even if one.

Some say  you can fight that I have yet to do that.

My next shipment is   2 x 1665= 3330  which bitmain now says is only worth   2530

I wonder how much I pay on this one.
15629  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: More bad news for Microbt CEO is being held for questioning!. on: November 09, 2019, 11:15:28 PM
yeah that miner was sold from pangolin and never was right.

i suspect they were binning the boards and sold me a miner with three shitty boards.

those boards when they worked on high speed did 13th 8.5th 8.5th total 30th.

i had eight m10 units and that was the only bad machine it was also the only machine with boards under 9th on high and over 12.5 th on high.

so i think they slapped it together from multiple units.

i think they did this on three of the eight units.

since seven units worked good and since the two m20s work well along with the one m21s

i can’t complain too much. still not the right way to do business.
i think we may see the end of whatsminer,pangolinminer,microbt very soon.
15630  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: WTS a LOT 2 x Bitmain S15 28T and 3 x Bitmain S15 27T - Price: $6500 NV USA on: November 09, 2019, 11:05:25 PM
so 5x 28= 140   th

6500 is far too much.

i have 7 whats miner m10 for sale  they do 200th on high speed and about 140th on low speed.

and i want far less. 


your price is not realistic.

5 new t17 are only 5400 and do 210th

with full trump tax and shipping they are maybe 6500 and do 210th.
15631  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [DAILY FREE RAFFLE]400th ฿ECAUSE I AM STILL IN A GOOD MOOD FREE PHYSICAL ฿ITCOIN on: November 09, 2019, 10:55:37 PM
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thats what is left
15632  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: I have some m10 units on hand mining in Clifton NJ Asking 700 shipped to usa on: November 09, 2019, 03:51:43 PM
Hey Phil.  I might be interested in two of them.  I just need to check some power and space issues and I'll get back to you.

Okay I will make sure to hold 2 for you
15633  Economy / Computer hardware / I have some m10 units on hand Asking 700. on: November 09, 2019, 12:58:04 PM
Edit sapphire rx 470 not for sale.




On the m10's 3 only 2 left at full power doing 30th 700 shipped to usa I will ship for free.

I have some M10 units   7 of them in clifton nj

 I want 700 plus shipping for each one only USA sale.  (I can bend a little)

  No Trump tax in the USA!

these units are pretty much equal to the innosilicon t2 t30

https://www.innosilicon.com/html/t2t-30t-miner/index.html  they want a fortune for it.


Will take  btc, ltc or doge


here they are hashing.  So five work  really well I would sell all five of them and hold the two lower ones.

Or sell the 2 lower ones.

an m10 does around 30-32 th and uses about 2100 watts on high.
it does around  19-21 th on low and uses about 1300 watts on low




here is a 90 day look back on one of the units.

it is consistently in the 31th area except for maintenance  power downs of the mining room.

15634  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [DAILY FREE RAFFLE]400th ฿ECAUSE I AM STILL IN A GOOD MOOD FREE PHYSICAL ฿ITCOIN on: November 09, 2019, 12:48:15 PM
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15635  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: WhatsMiner M20 to be delayed 2-3 weeks (edit) may be 5-7 week delay not sure on: November 09, 2019, 12:32:04 PM
Still no tracking number for me he promised me this week to see

ask again and again and again.  effort to be polite.  tell them again and again.

if they are pangolin go to telegram and ask there over and over.



https://telegram.me/PangolinMinerOfficial


link to pangolin telegram is above.
15636  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: PangolinMiner/Hummer Miner announces Hummer Miner H7 Pro 48T on: November 09, 2019, 05:18:14 AM
i did consider selling it.

since it is due in 7-9 days. i decided to get the gear.
15637  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [DAILY FREE RAFFLE]400th ฿ECAUSE I AM STILL IN A GOOD MOOD FREE PHYSICAL ฿ITCOIN on: November 08, 2019, 06:13:58 PM
61- philipma1957  please and thank you!
15638  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Why my antminer S9 has not mining????? on: November 08, 2019, 06:12:11 PM
did you ever see the gui?

better yet do you have an ip search program

  like angry ip or advanced ip  both free for windows.
15639  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain to release S17E 64TH on: November 08, 2019, 04:38:54 PM
and that ^^ is just one of the reasons that I refuse to support BM and switched to Canaan's Avalons several years ago. Ants may be more efficient but I will not tolerate nor do business with a company that operates like BM does.

I have some a1066's on order due the end of the month.

service wise canaan is the best.

innosilicon is poor in many ways a long list can be made
pangolin/microbt I still don't know if it is the builder or reseller or both but they have fallen on hard times.
bitmain  is making the most efficient miner but they are a brutal company that practices nasty business. They would kill off BTC in 10 seconds if they had a new coin that made more for them. Ie BCH over BTC if they could force that on us they would.

My circumstances are such that I control and manage 200kwatts soon to be 400kwatts of power.  I get ¼ of the power.  This allows me some choice of gear but not full choice.

We have
bitmain..................................... 450th    adding 250th
whatsminer/microbt/pangolin ...... 490th    adding    0th
canaan .....................................   66th    adding 100th
innosilicon ................................  100th    adding    0th
                                                  1106th   adding 350th = 1456th

we are looking into  the a1166  maybe 5 pieces which will be 330th

I also have a 368 coupon from bitmain and an 864 credit due on an order for 2 t17e's

I have no idea how they will deal with that credit as a commodity order.

but in theory I will be getting more gear from bitmain. as I may have 1200+ in coupons and credits coming.
15640  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: How to wire your s17's and t17's diy on: November 08, 2019, 01:40:37 PM
yes  except I won't buy the 3000 watts units.   I wanted to do this as cheaply and safe as possible.

Also my goal is to be s17 pro and nothing else (won't happen but it is a nice goal).

I will photo the build.

fully assembled about 9 feet long



three pieces about 12 usd total



attached to an l6-30r circuit



ready to test the next s17pro due soon



These wires are 15amp rated so 12 amps 24/7/365

I have  a solid 237-243 volts in my garage which is :

 3300/237 = 13.924 amps
 3200/237 = 13.502 amps
 3100/237 = 13.080 amps
 3000/237 = 12.658 amps
 2900/237 = 12.236 amps  

I could run anything under 2900 watts and be okay with this wire setup in my garage.

however in clifton

2900/217 = 13.364 amps
2800/217 = 12.903 amps
2700/217 = 12.442 amps

I need to be under 2700 watts.

And we still have the occasional low voltage  valley of 187-190 volts.  Yet to get a good response from power company on this issue.

However  almost all the gear can deal with this  for as much as a 30 minute drop in voltage.

once I factor  190 volts

I get

 2400/190 = 12.63 amps
 2300/190 = 12.105 amps

makes the s17 pros more attractive as they can ride out the low voltages without melting the wires.
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