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1581  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: March 14, 2017, 05:43:40 PM
Trading would be the best option of all you can have.Less risk and you handle your own money and profit.Investments are just like gambling at a different platform,you may lose
I agree, when It comes to trading you are the one who decides the best time to sell or to buy it may include some risks, but if you play it smart you can make a good profit unlike investing which has risks same as gambling and you could lose you money fast and not get profit that is worthwhile.
1582  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does every casino ask for documents? Wtf? on: March 14, 2017, 04:49:57 PM
The reason they ask for documents at all would be to do with anti laundering laws.   Its one thing to run a betting shop and another to be host to dirty money and the tail end of a criminal empire, you can end up doing twenty years for taking part is such things.   They have to have some caution and common sense to avoid suspect movements in accounts is my guess.
Yeah, many people don’t know the fact that the bitcoin is being used too much on the black market and the only way that they can hide their trail is by putting their money in online casinos so they cannot be traced, and they asking for documents means that you have putted a lot of money that is suspicious.
1583  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ANY STRATEGY TO WIN IN GAMBLING? on: March 14, 2017, 07:57:58 AM
I do not think there is a strategy that can make us win the game. The strategy there is a strategy to manage our finances. The strategy can minimize expenses, make us spend money as small as possible but still be able to add finance. Because of the luck that can make us win the game. Financial strategies that we can use to increase the financial.
I understand you are completely talking about money management while we're gambling. The money management concepts has nothing to do with increasing the possibility of making profits from gambling. Money management will work only on how effectively we could have long run in gambling but only strategies will help us to find profits.

Like many people have said, there will be no working strategy in gambling. Even if we find one, there will be no guarantee it will work all the times.
1584  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Whether anyone believe???? on: March 14, 2017, 06:33:04 AM
Your lifetime may not be enough to find those winning moments and to become rich. So you need to be very careful while deciding whether you may go for trying these or not.
In simple other words : we need to keep on trying for rest of our life. People are coming with this kind of strategy from seeing some people's success in lottery. They just want to imitate same type of victory just by forgetting the most influencing factor : luck.

When we are sure about one same number will be selected as the winner, why not the very next number would be the winner in next round of lottery itself ?

Mathematically I do not find the any differences between playing same number and different number for different rounds.
1585  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: March 13, 2017, 07:08:47 PM
I do not chase my loses nor look at my winning being small.  And chasing loses have a bigger chance of leading to obsession than addiction.  
Obsession is the very clear symptom that you are going to get addicted. Because when you are obsessed about your losses then obviously you will start chasing it to recover. In simple words obsession is the intermediate stage between beginners in gambling and addicted gamblers.

Making your emotion control to get failed would be the next stage of obsession. You will start listening to your emotions to chase your losses or to win big. Finally addictions is the result.
1586  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ANY STRATEGY TO WIN IN GAMBLING? on: March 13, 2017, 06:32:59 PM
Overall I just want to say there will be no working strategy for gambling. Just gamble for fun and move on.
That would be the final stage after this people struggling to figure out a successful gambling strategy or how to successfully applying different strategies into their gambling.

But I'm not having any hope of finding a strategy that will be working. Because gambling houses will be more smarter than you to tackle the strategy after some times. We cannot be sure they are not having codes without updating it according to your strategies.
You mean to say that we find one strategy and then gambling house find a solution for that strategy ?
If it is true then there will be no stopping point for the search of finding a working strategy for successful gambling.

When gambling houses are updating their programming codes based on gambler's different strategy then there will be no possibility of making profits from gambling. But we are seeing gamblers make life changing money. Here is the recent one : https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-player-takes-home-255000-in-milestone-casino-win

How it would be possible when the strategies are tackled by updating codes.
1587  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The reason why people do not get Bitcoin. on: March 13, 2017, 05:10:26 PM
The reasons why people do not get bitcoin because they dont know what it is. Even here in my country they doesnt know whats the use of bitcoin. That it can help them as extra income. So, there is a need to introduce bitcoin to people of what its use. By this, they will get bitcoin anytime.

Exactly, lack of awareness is the reason why people doesn't know and don't want to get bitcoin. They don't know that this is a very reliable investment and they can get good profit upon investing here. Also another thing they don't know that this is good for buying goods and services online and use it for paying those things as currency.
yes most of the people do not have good knowledge about bitcoin and therefore they are not giving preference to bitcoin.
I think the main thing here is to be interested in bitcoin. If you are interested, at least as in a way of money making, you will find a lot of necessary and easy talked information on the internet. If there is no interest bitcoin will look just like a scam or new form of financial pyramid to people.
No, it is not that simple and straight. You wan't to earn a lot of money yet you would never put hands in something that you never heard of and are unaware how it works. I have seen a few videos on youtube and they have been excellent in explaining bitcoins. Maybe of the rich guys here who earn via this forum should take the initiative and promote bitcoins more and more ?
1588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: March 13, 2017, 07:10:50 AM
just find yourself a good startup project invest a small amount hold onto it and if it takes off ul score some good returns.
In my experience every where small investment will work in favor of us, more importantly with full fledged peace of mind guarantee.

Because when we are investing only the affordable amount, we are almost not bothering about the losses in the worst cases. But when we are going with big investments, we may need to follow them and worry about the returns all the times, whether we are getting returns are not but definitely we will lose our peace of mind.
1589  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Most of the money on: March 13, 2017, 06:25:04 AM
Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, that's the game but I have only to treasure my winning moment to appreciate sports betting.
It will possible only when you are keeping the number of winning times and sum of winning amount higher than losses. I believe it will be possible if we are sticking with only sports betting. I do see people make profits from sports betting and then adding those money into their bankroll for other gambling just due to their greedy to make more money and finally instead of making more money, they face losses.

I believe sports betting would be only viable method to get profits in gambling field. When we develop habits of enjoying sports betting, I guess we will start slowly forgetting other gambling methods.
1590  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: March 12, 2017, 11:37:01 PM
Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?

after I get to know my assumption about the financial bitcoin began to change, because it is better to save it online but not too big, just for investment just let no additional financial value, than in gold and real estate better I keep in line for investment


For the bitcoin, you can save most and invest a few.
I think investing all is a better idea but if you know the service you are investing with is a genuine and trusted one. If you have even little doubt about the service you are investing with then it's much better to just save all the bitcoins because that too gives profit. Investment should not be forced just because you have some funds in your wallet, in real life you feel bad but with bitcoins even not investing them is a benefit since price changes very rapidly.
1591  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is no longer a currency on: March 12, 2017, 10:58:58 PM
I disagree with what Mathew O'brien said because bitcoin is a currency not a tech stock and this kind of a thing will happen just because bitcoin is not centralize or control by any government agency or organization. I guess this is the reason why the Texas law firm said no government should impede anyone of having bitcoin. If bitcoin is not a currency why would New Hampshire state house passed House Bill 436 which exempts bitcoin from costly money transmitter regulations?
Technically mate bitcoins is not a currency because a currency would be something that can be generated more and more on demand while bitcoins amount is fixed by satoshi and cannot be changed, bitcoins is rather more of an asset that is traded based on the demand and need of the market.
1592  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Investment Doubt on: March 12, 2017, 04:08:06 PM
If you are not really sure as to how would you invest in something then first thing's first, you need to really make sure about something e.g. research and check whether the site is legit. It's true that you can place some investment in gambling sites however it is also true that investment on these type of sites usually are bust after some lucky high roller beats the house.
Actually he asked when we should take our investment back or how long for we should invest our money. Deciding in which casino we should is a completely different topic and actually though it's important but pretty simple.

Coming back to topic basically I believe that we must never withdraw the investment made in a site. Just let it grow and when you feel you have accumulated enough and filled your needs take it out.
1593  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When is Gambling Like Investing on: March 12, 2017, 03:34:30 PM
Well for me every time that I send some money to some gambling site I think of it as an investment,
So if I win I will just consider it as my profit to my investment and if I lose I will just think of it that my investment got scammed.

Your way of thinking about gambling is completely wrong. No one is forced your to gamble then why you think that gambling site is scammed you if you lose? Because in gambling both winning and losing is part of the game so you should consider that before playing. Also gambling is not a investment because we should play with small amount these games only for fun and entertainment and not to make an easy money out of these games.
Actually he is not wrong, anyone who deposits money in a gambling site basically dreams of winning. And you said that gambling can have loss and win, tell me one single investment that guarantees you profit only and no chances of loss ?

I can't think of such investments at all. There is risk associated with each investment and with gambling the risk is high but so are the profits.
1594  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to know if a gambling site is a scam or not? on: March 12, 2017, 02:56:54 PM
How do you know if the gambling site is a scam or not? how you trust a gambling site for you credit card and know its not a scam?
Any site that asks for a verification of documents is most probably a scam, talking about crypto based gambling sites.

Other than asking proofs there are other signs like if a site stops sending withdrawals and delay them without any logical reason then never keep high balance there. Though not always delay means a scam on line, take example of cloudbet they have been delaying a lot but yet not scammed.
1595  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Investment Doubt on: March 12, 2017, 07:49:49 AM
If you are not really sure as to how would you invest in something then first thing's first, you need to really make sure about something e.g. research and check whether the site is legit. It's true that you can place some investment in gambling sites however it is also true that investment on these type of sites usually are bust after some lucky high roller beats the house.
Similar to any other investment, gambling investments also is subject to how the house will be performing against their gamblers. We cannot expect in a provably fair environment, a gambling house to make profit all the times so that we can get our profits shares.

Comparatively gambling houses are performing well, so the only need is we need to choose a well established and highly reputed gambling house for our investment then we can get chances to have more profits for our investment in gambling industry.
1596  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When is Gambling Like Investing on: March 12, 2017, 07:07:26 AM
I know majority of the member in this forum believed gambling is different in Investing.
If all the gambler will be having same opinion on treating gambling for investment, I believe this gambling industry would have gone into next level of upgrade. But only very few people are going for gambling as an investment and all others are just using gambling industry similar to amusement places.

But we cannot be sure that they are all getting their success as we can see some people are making profits from gambling and some people are finding good entertaining times with gambling. As long as they are finding good time with gambling is an investment for refreshment or for making fortunes.

An investment may not give only financial returns, some investments are entitled for giving pleasures, gambling investments may be one of them.
1597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: March 11, 2017, 04:10:40 PM
Beside lose or win, if we do gamble so often, it can lead us to be a very lazy person. I met some people that willing to quit from their job just for gambling. Idk what's on their mind, but I think there's something wrong with them. Gambling is not just a matter of money. It can give a big impact to our personality as well.
Yeah, gambling gives us the idea of how easy it is to earn money, which is quite the opposite, because you can’t keep doing it forever eventually you will slip and your luck will run out and you will lose it all, and earning money through gambling has no meaning not like earning through hard work which makes you use your brain and feels so satisfying.
1598  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is CHINA CONTROLLING Bitcoin? on: March 11, 2017, 03:38:37 PM
People here have claimed that Bitcoin is in fact controlled and ruled by China, as mining is centralized by Chinese mining institutions.

Do you think that China is controlling/ruling bitcoin yes or no?

China country is only control the biggest mining farm of bitcoin in the whole world but not controling the price value of bitcoin. They can also owned the biggest percentage average of holding a bitcoin in the whole world.
Yeah, China as in the government is not controlling the bitcoin in a direct way, china has the largest number of users in the bitcoin community which makes some people think that it is the center of bitcoin because mining bitcoin there is profitable so most of it comes from there so if anything happens to the mining in china bitcoin’s price will be influenced.
1599  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could bitcoin prevent crime? on: March 11, 2017, 03:07:00 PM
Bitcoin can be used to hide crime transactions, and there is no way to know where the money camed from. Only exchanges able to see where the money comes, with their rules to trade and invest big ammounts, soo criminal has several tiny accounts and stay out of radar always, without the need to wash the money with a regular business anymore.
Yeah, probably many people don’t really know this but the amount of bitcoin is used in the black market for drugs guns and other illegal stuff, is more the amount of bitcoin used in the good way like investments and trading, and that gives a bad reputation for it and makes people think that it is something that is used by bad people only and we as a community who believe in bitcoin’s potential we need to change that.
1600  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone ever stop gambling? but then gamble again? on: March 11, 2017, 01:42:05 PM
I stop when balance zero Smiley

Most of times i want to stop. Want to dont bet but cant control my ambitient. There r football matches on TV and i cant control myself for not bet. Watchin match for a while then bet. It becomes routine. Lots of gamblers addict to win possibility feeling. I have this addict too. Waitin for each teams goal is excitement if i bet for goals or waitin for selected team's win. It gives different feeling and that feeling im addict. Like drug. Like smoke.
 
That's the ultimate stopping point for all of us, we stop when we have nothing to gamble. It's alright actually as long as you will not get any money that you cannot afford to lose anymore, it's the limitation that is important because if we will let our anger, that emotion will control us when we lose and though we are doing it to chase our loses but most of the time we end up nothing and will aggravate our loses even more.

Well bring used to that style would.most likely leave you broke. Imagine if you gamble til you get zero balancr every single day. Its not really a very good idea with gamblig to go yolo because we're talking about money here. And that way it's impossible not to get your emotions involved because if you lose money, regret, anxiety and greediness may take over you. For these types of people, if you can manage to quit obe time, i suggest you avoid gambling again
True, that is why gambling should always be for fun and not for an income, some people say that they will only gamble for fun but when they win they end up coming back because they like how easy it is to make money and they keep doing so until they end up broke and they come back again and they find themselves stuck in the circle of addiction and they can’t get out of it because they already lost so much.
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