There is no correlation between ETH and XMR, so tying those two together isn't really valid. Plus the community here is trying to fill a niche by becoming the most private/anonymous digital cash that has ever been created; not pump some shitty coin that has either A) been copied from somewhere or B) been unfairly mined/distributed amongst the very first adopters. So to correlate XMR to anything else that has been created is ludicrous, IMO.

I actually agree with you here... as most people who frequent this thread hope, I hope that XMR will appreciate up to $100+/XMR by 2020; and since there is nothing that I really need to spend moneros on (besides the occasional funding of projects) just accumulate as much as I can at any given price.  Then when that time comes where it hits a triple digit figure, I'm definitely planning on purchasing a couple ounces of gold and silver to diversify my portfolio of investments.  Until that time comes, I'm happily accumulating as much cheap coins as I can whether thats $10 a week or maybe even less.

It depends on what you mean in terms of "surpassing" Bitcoin.  Price wise will be difficult, because people tend to be hesitant to change... that's just a natural part of nature as well as human nature; law of inertia is no joke.

But if you are talking in terms of functionality and usability, we are half way there.  There is certainly a learning curve, where people who are newer to crypto currencies, programming, etc. (like me) have a difficult time trying to figure out all there has to know about how to set up a node, mine, and so on to help the network; as well as securing your coins properly in cold storage.

Now in terms of functionality, it seems Monero has already surpassed the shit out of bitcoin... theoretically that is.  Of course, we haven't seen as much transaction on our blockchain like what Bitcoin has; but to my mind, the unlimited capabilities of what dynamic block sizes allows users to do, as well as remaining completely anonymous while using a coin that will never "taint" in any way is completely revolutionary.

What I like about science and technology, is that it doesn't have an ego... unfortunately though, the people that use it and market it do. 

#RIPrimer   

This is something we are going to look back and laugh at I think... 300K satoshi is going to be scoffed at in the year 2020, especially thinking of it in terms of USD.  So let's be glad we can still accumulate at this stage still.

Just curious... are you ever planning on making some monero physical coins? I would love to snag some if the chance comes around.

I mean, I understand where you are coming from... but there are expenses that need to be paid for besides just food like housing and other things.  I think I'm going to start setting aside $5-$10 a week to put into a separate banking account that I can buy bitcoin with which then I can buy XMR with.  I just wish there was an easier way to purchase bitcoin through pre loaded cards that you can pay with cash.

I agree, I would love to be at the point where I could buy an ounce of gold with a couple of my moneros... That's what I'm personally looking forward too... But as of now, I'm living from pay check to pay check, so unfortunately I don't even have the opportunity to buy more if I even wanted too.

Sooo... Why don't you just try to work for Huntercoin? Sounds like you already have made your mind up IMO, and not really looking for suggestions.

It's ok, I won't turn this into a cryptonote thread... If you don't feel comfortable with cryptonote and want to work with a clone of Bitcoin or another platform that's cool. But understand that what you said is contradictory in that you don't want this to turn into a thread about cryptonote, but yet your waiting to hear other "supporters" of Monero tell you that it's the best out their by "pushing" monero. You shouldn't have to be "pushed" into something you feel is ethical, I feel you are waiting to be inspired by a project.

So with that, I suggest other Monero supporters on here to stop trying to "push", Monero's project should speak for itself... And if OP doesn't want to do it, then let him do his own thing. I don't think he's really wanting to debate over something that fits what we like to see in a coin, and that's ok because he is entitled to his own opinions.

Well, it's just simply true... You can look at the blockchain explorer yourself and see that some bitcoin transactions or wallets with Bitcoins have a certain level of "taint" to the coins. Some are worse than others, depending on if they mixed it or not, or if it's been passed on so many times that it sort of reduces taint over time. That's one of the main problems of Bitcoin is that it doesn't have proper fungibility.

I don't want this to sound too much like a Monero circle jerk, but I think devs such as your self would appreciate what monero is trying to do.  Here's a very recent video that Bitcoin Uncensored did and has Fluffypony (one of the core devs of Monero) as a guest, which starts at 6:00 and ends at 32:00.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKd7F-10lxM&feature=youtu.be&t=6m

Hopefully this will give you a better insight of how people who work with Monero think... and hopefully you can see that it's a pretty humble group of people who primarily are in it for the research in cryptonote technology.

Also, on the getmonero forum page, there is a section there that people post ideas that they think would possibly help Monero... whether it's in the actual code of Monero itself, or other projects that need to be done to help the Monero economy.  These ideas will be talked about on there and if people deem it a good idea, the community and dev will work out some sort of price (in XMR) which the community will pay the dev to do.  So if you have some knowledge in building cool apps or other things that will enhance the economy of Monero, then there is a little bit of extra incentive for you.

But seriously, if you don't want to work on it because maybe you just don't like the way cryptonotes are, or whatever the reason maybe... don't feel like you have to include us in your decision making.

Hmm.... well it looks like I'm late to the party anyways and can't pre order one now since it says it's "sold out" of the basic version, I wouldn't want to put $4 extra per device for something that's only going to allow me "touch panel and camera support".

I guess I'll wait and see what the reviews are after they are made and see what price they will set them too when they start producing more of them.  Sounds pretty awesome to me though; especially to have something as small as that you could set aside in the corner of your room and forget about for a while.

Thanks for the response.  So in this case with the Pine or RasPi, wouldn't buying a couple of cheap computers like these to solo mine with (to support the network) be worth it, instead of trying to mine with an old computer that I have?  It's a 64 bit, but it's like one of the first ones and runs pretty slowly.. maybe when I wipe off all the memory when installing Ubuntu it will run faster?

Or do these things suck up a shit ton of power or something?  I just feel like $15 for a mining device that you could put something like monerodo on is pretty well worth it.

Ok, I guess I'm sort of confused... last I heard, Monero was "ASIC resistant"... couldn't you turn this pine64 into an ASIC to run a node and mine with by running monerodo on it, or just installing everything on there yourself and customizing it if you choose to do so? 

Also, is it too late to buy the $15 version? It says that it's currently sold out.

Tax something they deem illegal and also supports "terrorism". Beautiful.

Yeah, all mixing is going to do is possibly taint your coins even more with other coins that are there used for "criminal activities"... That's mainly why people mix Bitcoin's anyways. Then you could run into the problem of exchange sites not accepting your Bitcoin's if the amount of taint is too high. I know it's not so likely right now, but if all this government regulation comes about, they might force exchange sites to do this.

This is one example of why fungibility is important.

A measely $90K?? Sure!

checks wallet

Shit.

But you have to realize that what the government is asking Apple to do, or the warrant they are trying to use is the most ludicrous thing ever. They are expecting Apple to reveal information that they have no way of giving, because that phone doesn't have any "back doors" and they don't have a way of retrieving the info they want... What the government is then asking, is to force Apple start producing phones with back doors from here on out, which is even more ludicrous. Anything you search on your smart phone which is deemed "suspicious" allows them to stalk you for as long as they please.

Keeping phones private without allowing back doors is way better for the innocent than the guilty for actual "terrorism" because "terrorist" with knowledge of hacking could then find these back doors themselves to retrieve personal info on anyone with that phone and can be even more of a threat to your average joe.

Allowing the government to force Apple into this is definitely not the way to go.

That's not entirely true... With Bitcoin, Google could still theoretically know that you were the person the sent someone else money; it sort of depends.  Even though your name is not on your address specifically, if you bought bitcoins through an online exchange using your credit card or debit card for example, then they could identify that you sent someone X amount of Bitcoins.  Now of course that's not always the case because you can purchase bitcoins in person, at an ATM, or simply mine them... but the reality is that a very large majority of people just purchase bitcoins through exchanges.

Now I understand your argument that Google would want Google Pay to trump Bitcoin for obvious reasons (advertisements, logistical knowledge, etc.) that is entirely intrusive... but here's the thing though; anyone can view what address you are paying at any given time... and theoretically if there was some sort of sentiment that governments impose on businesses that forces them to always reveal their receiving address, then it could be knowledge to only the governments and/or even Google about who paid who by analyzing the blockchain and seeing who sent what and who received the transaction.

This is a lot more complicated and takes effort on behalf of the government and possibly Google which they would want to avoid, so they would love to have Google Pay be everyones "go to" payment method... but you could've argued that it serves a bigger role than just a (somewhat) private transaction method, rather, it serves to re-invent the monetary system in itself and allows for a limited currency that isn't influenced by a small group of people to inflate or deflate the currency supply on a whim based on political influences, and you can predict at any given time what the currency supply is.

Nice! I didn't even know that those videos existed!

Is there any way we could post a sticky in the monero subreddit that we can direct people who are technologically handicapped (like me) to so new people that come in can look at these videos if they are having trouble setting up things?  Or better yet, on the side bar?  I think videos that have someone like you show step by step what you are doing to set things up are a lot easier to follow than anything else (for me at least).  Looks like I got a busy day ahead of me tomorrow when I get some more free time on my hands to set up everything.

If I could make a request, maybe post a video showing how you set up monerodo?  I know I'm being super lazy and have been taking up your time for a while now asking you questions about monerodo; but I feel I can speak for the majority of people who don't have a great technical knowledge about computers, nor have the time to sit down and learn everything about computers and the terminology that comes with it. 

Like for instance, I still don't know much about Linux like why should we use Linux, how to set it up, using command lines, etc... and when I do try to learn about it, I feel like I'm taking courses on Linux in general, when I only want to know the bare minimum to use monero on my computer.

Hopefully, I don't sound annoying to you guys... but I think it will eventually help people who aren't "computer people" and just want to use monero as a currency while supporting the network (nodes, mining, etc.). 

Maybe the community will be willing to chip in some monero to increase the incentive for GingerAle to work on these video tutorials that helps "newbies" like me?  I know I'll be willing to throw a little bit in there.