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15881  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory - The most advanced Bitcoin Client in existence! (v0.5.1-alpha) on: February 20, 2012, 04:06:30 AM
i've always wanted one of those cool vanitygen addresses but never knew how to generate one.  any plans for integrating vanitygen in the future?
15882  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory - The most advanced Bitcoin Client in existence! (v0.5.1-alpha) on: February 20, 2012, 03:19:37 AM
yeah, there is a blockchain on this computer which it looks like its trying to read as i see it in the terminal window.  python requests the Runtime to terminate it and a python.exe window pops up stating it has stopped working.
15883  Other / MultiBit / Re: MultiBit on: February 20, 2012, 02:13:38 AM
Also, I have been looking into getting some custom USB drives made with the MultiBit logo/ site URL on and preloading them with:

+ the MultiBit executable
+ Java runtimes for Windows + Linux (Macs always have one).

This would mean you could have a 'secure stash' for your bitcoins where you could plug in your 'MultiBit USB drive' into ANY Windows/ Mac/ Linux machine to access your bitcoins.   Your wallets would be stored on the USB drive.
When you are not accessing them you just store them wherever you store your passports/ family jewelry.

Our current prefered model is this one:
http://www.usb-flashdrive.co.uk/usb-flash-drives/twister-drive-1


For backup, you will be able to export your wallets' private keys and put them somewhere safe.
For security this would only make sense when both the MultiBit private key export files and wallets are both encrypted hence the push on that.

We will be offering these for sale to the general public at pretty close to cost price.   It feels like a good way to get the word out about bitcoin.

i've just started looking over this wallet as i'd heard it could run from a usb stick.

i have an Ironkey which i would assume could run this wallet.  can u direct me to the instructions how to load Multibit onto it?
15884  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory - The most advanced Bitcoin Client in existence! (v0.5.1-alpha) on: February 20, 2012, 02:04:25 AM
yea I get "Connection to localhost DNE" (does not exist) I did a yaourt -S armory-git again, it says "Making package: armory-git 20120219-1 (Sun Feb 19 17:45:04 EST 2012)" so I'm assuming it's cloning todays git but I'm still getting the error.

I've been chatting with Cypherdoc, who's had this problem persistently.  After the protocol switchover, it seems to be magically working for him... !?!   I'm not sure what the protocol switch had to do with it... but perhaps clocks/UTC were out of sync, and one program switched before the other...?

Please let me know if you still have the problem!  (make sure to restart both Satoshi and Armory)

yes indeed it is working now. Cheesy

now something i must not understand properly.  i copied the zip files onto a USB stick and loaded them to my offline laptop that only has 1G RAM.  its a Win7 64 bit setup in a VM.  i unpackaged and installed them according to instruction.  but when i open Armory Qt it appears like its looking for the blockchain and python won't run?  or is it b/c its only 1G?  but then i thought you said the offline laptop only needs 512K?

i'm missing something obviously.
15885  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory - The most advanced Bitcoin Client in existence! on: February 19, 2012, 06:21:07 PM
Concerning the offline transactions feature...

Would a feature like this be used for a large company like Best Buy?  Best Buy would create multiple wallets on each cash register that would be offline.  At the end of the day the wallets are collected, imported on an online computer, and then broadcasted.

It would be used by anyone that wants to store their private keys offline, but still manage their wallet on an offline computer.  This does include companies.

The company would have a secure office somewhere with a non-internet-connected computer.  They would create one wallet per cash register, and the copy the watching-only version to each register.  Then the registers could monitor transactions, and generate addresses for customers, but the register would not be able to spend any of the money.

Then if the company wants to move the cash, they can create the transaction from the register, but the txs can't be signed.  Instead they are copied to a USB key, taken to the secure location, and the offline system signs all of them.  The final transactions are taken back to the internet and broadcast.

But this is useful for anyone who wants top-notch security.  If I have more than $100 in BTC, I'll be keeping it in a wallet that has never touched the internet.  By using this feature, it is virtually impossible for an attacker to compromise your keys, because the private keys have never left the offline computer.  Some creative USB key viruses might succeed, but that's a big stretch, requiring a very specific, targeted virus -- and if you're concerned about that, you can do something creative using the raw transaction blocks of text (perhaps convert them to QR code and scan from the offline computer?  then you never even plug in a USB key).

The community here has come up with all sorts of command-line tools for doing this, but they are all complicated and pretty much only accessible to the die-hards.   I believe that Armory will bring this functionality to anyone who wants to use it, and they might even figure it out without a tutorial!  If that works, then I've succeeded!  (btw, you can add donations to offline transactions the same as online transactions Smiley)


EDIT:  to answer one of your questions more directly.... wallets are never copied/moved after the initial distribution.  Once they are in place, the only thing that is moved/copied between systems is transaction files (*.unsigned.tx and *.signed.tx).  In fact, the offline computer doesn't even need the blockchain!  That's innovation!   (the other solutions I mentioned above which are complicated, do require making sure the offline computer maintains a sync'd blockchain)


so my question in this scenario is what will the offline and watching only wallets "look" like in terms of their ledgers in the example of a business with a cash register with say 100 newly generated addresses on it after a days work?

lets say the owner only wants to move the btc from 75 of these new addresses that took in money during the day but not do anything with the other 25.  after the attendant brings the owner the usb stick who then has his offline computer sign the tx's to move the money to the owner's address, what happens to the ledger in the offline wallet?  will it show the 25 unsigned tx's in it?  in other words what exactly are we moving with the usb stick, individual tx's or all changes to the wallet?
15886  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Armory: Call for Crowdfunding the Future of Bitcoin on the Desktop! on: February 19, 2012, 01:30:04 AM
>$12,000

Sadly, Bitcoin development is this expensive at the moment. You couldn't get Russian coders to build this cheaper than that.

I mean, you could but you would need to log their every move and yell at them over Skype constantly; that would be a lot of sweat and tears.

well then, consider it a bargain.  there aren't too many ppl around here as brilliant as eto and this product has incredible potential. 
15887  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: TradeHill - shutting down trading / deposits and returning all client funds on: February 18, 2012, 10:14:15 PM
I'm telling people to STFU for acting like they have some right to information that they don't have a right to.
I don't see anything wrong if people act like they have some right to information. I don't see why you are so upset about that? In fact what I see is you're acting like anti-"cryptoanarchist"...

Scroll back a bit. I was responding to them being overly upset at Jered. What they said wasn't nearly as polite as "STFU". I thought it was a bit over the top to say people were "kissing a loser's ass" and going after the guy like they did.

flaxceed was the only one who said anything like that.  the rest of us are just asking questions w/o criticism against Jered about what happened since it would help the community.  so quit flipping out and acting like you have some inside knowledge of whats happened to them with your FUD.

contrast what you're offering up vs. useful info like whats been given by BitcoinExpress.
15888  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: X6500 Custom FPGA Miner on: February 18, 2012, 09:48:41 PM
Air is blowing down.

I was surprised to see these x6500 don't warm up that much. You can try stacking them up with fans stacked up also on the side. I think the ideal solution would be side intake fan blowing downwards much like GPU cards, using a fan connector on the board (or maybe just already built in). I hope a future revision allows for this. Also a way to daisy chain the USB ports would be nice, and the power adapters to be stackable too.

I don't know about all the stats showing on the miner software, I'll appreciate if someone can point out issues.

99Percent, that is an awesome setup! I can't tell you how much I love seeing these photos from everyone!

That said, it looks to me like you have pretty high invalids on FPGA0 on each board, especially the second board. I would like to see under 2 %, or less. I'm not sure the cause though. You certainly have enough airflow! You might want to try re-seating those heatsinks. I've seen this happen before, where a heatsink might have been bumped during shipping or something, and there's a little bit of an air gap under it. Also check that the heatsink is centered over the FPGA.

I would do this by taking the board and placing it upside down on your table (so that the heatsinks are resting on the surface). Then, use your thumbs to apply even pressure straight down on the board right at the spot on the board under the FPGAs. You don't want to put pressure at an angle at all. Press on it for maybe 15 seconds, using a good amount of force, but be careful that you don't slip sideways because that could pull the heatsink in a dangerous way, damaging the FPGA.

If that doesn't lower your invalids, you might want to try thermal epoxy. If all else fails, maybe a very slightly reduced clock rate would keep them happy. We are very close to releasing new firmware which will allow you to change the clock in 2 MHz increments without reprogramming. By decreasing the clock just a tiny bit, you might drastically reduce invalids which would make your effective hashrate even higher. More importantly, though, invalids are probably a sign of an FPGA that is too hot, and it might shorten its lifespan.

fizz,

since heat rises what about if he just flipped his setup upside down.  would that lower his temps?
15889  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: X6500 Custom FPGA Miner on: February 18, 2012, 06:07:39 PM
i can buy a small dorm refrigerator off Craigslist for $50.  why not stick 10 inside?

the only thing to worry about is condensation and i've heard different things about that. does anyone know the thermodynamics behind this and if there would be condensation?  the nice thing about a frig is you can adjust the temp to whatever you want.
15890  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Idea: revealing Bitcoin users' identities AND improve anonymity on: February 18, 2012, 06:01:03 PM
For instance, after withdrawing bitcoins from an exchange service, I know a Bitcoin address of that exchange service. I could enter that information in the wiki, and then find out what other addresses belong to the exchange service, how many bitcoins they probably hold in total, etc..


i guess the only problem with this is that no one would want to contribute to a wiki if that address could then lead back to themselves.

and then you'd probably have ppl entering in real addresses with bogus ownerships to obfuscate the linkages or even to target enemies.  it could turn into a real mess.
15891  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: X6500 Custom FPGA Miner on: February 18, 2012, 05:27:20 PM
My setup:






The fans sit on top of the stacking post quite nicely. I used one to screw the fan on it.

Laptop is an old Asus 1UF, running LInux Mint Debian Edition, using a tiny SSD for even less power usage.

Running at 200mhz each and they don't warm up a bit. Estimated power usage no more than 80W - pretty good for 800MH/s

Any comments and criticism are welcome.






that looks pretty cool.  are the fans blowing up or down? 

the only issue for me is i'm considering buying 10 of these so stacking would be ideal in terms of spacing.

why hasn't anyone considered sticking a stack of 10 of these inside a small dorm refrigerator with a hole drilled the top for cords?  you could adjust the temp to anything you want to achieve good cooling and avoid condensation i would think.
15892  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoinica has paid out the first day's interest! on: February 18, 2012, 05:17:44 PM
Zhou has already said that he's effectively trying to create a money market fund that attracts additional reserves to Bitcoinica upon which he will pay interest.  most money market depositors are conservative investors just looking for safety and stable return.  the last thing they expect is to lose their money.

a traditional money market only invests in "safe" securities like US Treasuries or other assorted short term debt both of which are highly liquid with fairly stable prices.  they try to not "break the buck" by maintaining a 1:1 value of the money you deposit to the money you can take out.  this all changes during times of stress.

as you can see, we have here a different model which takes these funds into a money market to invest in a start up highly volatile currency with leverage.  this money market should and needs to pay a high interest rate to compensate for the risk of losing its depositors money.

the parallel example we see in the real economy is that many US money market funds decided to reach out for higher yields via gov't debt in Europe the last couple of years and have paid the price dearly in the form of losses when the PIGS interest rates soared and the bond prices fell.  there is now talk of the US gov't requiring collateral posting by the money market funds which would effectively destroy the industry.  why would the financial regulators do this?  answer: to encourage a shifting of USD's from money mkts to the banking system.  don't forget; its always about saving the banks.

so while the interest rates being offered by Zhou look juicy and a no brainer, don't forget you could still lose it all.
15893  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoinica has paid out the first day's interest! on: February 18, 2012, 04:52:02 PM
lets take a look at current situation, the market is stupid seams ppl dont want to trade, orders are ridiculously low(no depth), i have low incentive to enter the market, you add on top of that the position fees, leverage restrictions, well guess what i better stay out of the market with my moneys and gain a nice interest, from your end can look different but from my end is like that 20% APY is awesome Smiley

sure you can take that position. but there will be plenty of ppl willing to borrow your deposits despite the swap fee and leverage up their positions to speculate on the BTC price.

this is indeed a clever way to shore up the reserve accts.
15894  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Idea: revealing Bitcoin users' identities AND improve anonymity on: February 18, 2012, 04:25:03 PM
i think this is a good idea.  why not flush out the true anonymity capabilities of Bitcoin?  if not you, someone else will eventually do it.  i'd be interested myself in being able to probe the limits of such a system and would use it regularly i'm sure.

this is a fuzzy area that i'm sure alot of ppl would be interested in.
15895  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoinica now supports email notifications! on: February 18, 2012, 04:05:52 PM
Now Bitcoinica supports email notifications for order executions, non-instant deposits (Bitcoins and wires) and withdrawals.

forced liquidations get an e-mail as well?

does the subject line say: "You've Been ZhouTonged!"



Lol.  you should also add that to a pop up window!
15896  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoinica has paid out the first day's interest! on: February 18, 2012, 03:59:13 PM
Zhou,

just be aware that if you're paying out interest you could be running into some concocted international banking regulations.

at this point i only wish you spectacular success as this is what the community needs; another honest go to option.
15897  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Targeted By Latest FinCEN Ruling? – Implications Are Profound on: February 18, 2012, 03:17:07 PM
well how easy is it to get a hold of some gold?  not too easy.

you have to go down to your local coin dealer, if you have one, pay cash and then cart the stuff out the door all the while worrying about being noticed by some mugger who'll rob you right there b/c of the big bags you're carrying.

not to mention selling it back which i did during last Spring which was a pain.  i had to haggle the price and eventually took a 5% haircut off spot.  they made me sign a bunch of forms, show give my drivers license, and then they sent me a 1099 two wks ago on which i will have to pay my regular tax rate, not capital gains.

and btw, have you ever tried buying everyday goods with it?
15898  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: TradeHill - shutting down trading / deposits and returning all client funds on: February 18, 2012, 03:02:43 PM
Dude, your problem is one of style.  IF you in fact were involved in those activities then i can see why they failed or are losing b/c you seriously lack polish.  and if i had to guess who you really are i'd have to guess you are truly down in your Mom's basement.

all we're trying to do here is get to the bottom of this so that the community and investors can understand and learn from the business dynamics behind what has happened.  then we could adjust and potentially save ourselves lots of headaches and money in setting up projects and we'd know better who we're dealing with.

you on the otherhand are just spreading FUD, bragging about supposed accomplishments, and impeding the free flow of information which is the antithesis of what this project is all about.

so until Jered steps up and says something to the effect that he can't legally say anything more than what he has already, then yes, you should STFU.  if and when he does, then i'll be glad to STFU.

did it ever occur to your that this information might help Bitcoin supporters behave legitimately, professionally, and legally to set up businesses that gov'ts might not go after?  or, as your name suggests, is secrecy and anarchy the only means to achieve success?

Wow..what a load of bull. Got any other unfounded accusations, cypherdoc?

Please explain your attacks. I have to laugh at the way you go after me. My "style" is the problem? I'm not "polished"? Anyone with 2 brain cells can see that those are empty ad hominem attacks.

And isn't the whole "mom's basement" thing played out as a keyboard warrior line?

do you even realize what you said?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63749.msg755504#msg755504

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all we're trying to do here is get to the bottom of this so that the community and investors can understand and learn from the business dynamics behind what has happened.  then we could adjust and potentially save ourselves lots of headaches and money in setting up projects and we'd know better who we're dealing with.

If you want to learn about this stuff, start your own exchange. Do your own bit to change the nation's monetary system.


oh ok, so the only way we're ALLOWED to learn according to you is by repeating the same mistakes of the past w/o trying to learn from others experience.  that attitude says it all.  STFU.
15899  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: BitcoinSpinner on: February 18, 2012, 02:54:12 PM
don't you think Jan has better things to do than attend to color?
15900  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: TradeHill - shutting down trading / deposits and returning all client funds on: February 18, 2012, 02:44:53 PM
From my experience fighting the federal government, its not always that simple. First, bringing all their problems to the forum would be a horrible idea. Most of what the government is doing to monetary revolutionaries isn't overt legal action, but covert disruption. Tradehill probably isn't sure themselves who the infiltrators in their organization are.

Okay, you're saying they were infiltrated? Can you back up that claim, and/or why do you think that? Who at TH was working for a government? Because frankly this sounds childish, paranoid and stupid if you know how the US gov't works (excluding the secret part that's persecuting you, of course).

Most of you who complain work regular jobs and pay taxes to a corrupt government who uses your money to blow people up. Most of you have never stuck your neck out at all to change things in this country. Most of you need to STFU and be happy bitcoins and bitcoin exchanges even exist at all.

Actually, what we need is to have a serious conversation without injecting absurd levels of FUD. And not everyone in this conversation's an armchair spectator raving about revolution and infowar from their basement. Your whole post - and I speak as a paranoid person myself - smacks of counterintel. It's off the charts on my bullshit meter. Maybe you're just insane, but it's much more likely you're a plant for the people you're ranting about, trying to make all bitcoiners sound like paranoid freaks.

And for the record, TradeHill's people are not "generals". Nor is this a "war". Bitcoin is a gnat's fart compared to Liberty Reserve. It's possible that non-conventional modes of pressure might have been applied to TradeHill here; I'd like to hear about it. What I don't accept is that an organization that's clearly done nothing wrong, who is in the right, would want to conceal from their users and colleagues the circumstances that led to the situation they find themselves in. Unless of course they're not allowed to talk about it.

All your FUD does is stifle meaningful conversation; in fact, stifling it and telling everyone to STFU seems to have been the point of your post. Why don't you STFU and stop ranting and speculating, at least long enough to dig for some real information? Or is real information antithetical to your little red-herring mission on this board?


I don't need to STFU at all. Unlike you, I'm not an "armchair spectator raving about revolution and infowar from their basement." I've done a LOT more than most people to change the monetary system. Ever heard of Liberty Dollar? Yeah, I was an RCO which means I was putting myself in the fire before bitcoin was even heard of. I also ran the Ron Paul campaign where I live and was pretty aggressive against the local GOP. So yes, I have experience dealing with Federal agents.

Furthermore, you sound suspicious yourself when you attack me for pointing out the obvious. First you say I'm an "armchair spectator raving about revolution and infowar from their basement", but then I'm "counterintel". Which one is it ssaCEO? You are saying I might be a Fed, but you are saying that I'm a dork in my mom's basement for thinking the Feds may have gone after Tradehill? Or are you saying that Feds indeed are dorks in their mom's basement? Can you clarify?

Dude, your problem is one of style.  IF you in fact were involved in those activities then i can see why they failed or are losing b/c you seriously lack polish.  and if i had to guess who you really are i'd have to guess you are truly down in your Mom's basement.

all we're trying to do here is get to the bottom of this so that the community and investors can understand and learn from the business dynamics behind what has happened.  then we could adjust and potentially save ourselves lots of headaches and money in setting up projects and we'd know better who we're dealing with.

you on the otherhand are just spreading FUD, bragging about supposed accomplishments, and impeding the free flow of information which is the antithesis of what this project is all about.

so until Jered steps up and says something to the effect that he can't legally say anything more than what he has already, then yes, you should STFU.  if and when he does, then i'll be glad to STFU.

did it ever occur to your that this information might help Bitcoin supporters behave legitimately, professionally, and legally to set up businesses that gov'ts might not go after?  or, as your name suggests, is secrecy and anarchy the only means to achieve success?
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