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161  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] BTC-Trading Pass-Through Fund (BTC-TRADING-PT) is closing on: November 27, 2013, 01:08:01 AM
what about what happened today?

I got litecoin dividends from my shares of litecoin global, I don't recall getting anything from this fund?
162  Bitcoin / Project Development / For Merchants: Double Spend and Fork insurance on: November 23, 2013, 03:54:03 PM
I've been toying with the idea of double spend and fork insurance

The big fork in march 2013 caused some people to have to disregard transactions

A lot of people don't accept 0 confirmation transactions because they could be reversed

If there were assurances that the merchant or counterparty would be reimbursed if these things happened, then bitcoin would be a more viable means of commerce for more people now. Gambling websites accept 0 confirmation transactions and it is amazingly quick.






Would a monthly premium and deductible model work with bitcoin merchants WHILE keeping transaction fees down from the merchant to the consumer?

I wouldn't want to introduce redundancies that would make bitcoin transactions costly just like credit card transactions, due to merchants paying too high costs for the insurance
163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Mastercoin Opportunities Thread (Bounties & Positions) on: November 23, 2013, 02:49:26 PM
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How about churches? Would they count? Also they aren't as politically controversial as Wikileaks.

Hmm ... it might ... I don't think it's a good idea to start with them (do any churches accept Bitcoin at this point???), but I won't rule it out.

Churches span many borders, deal in a lot of financial instruments (bonds) and get favorable tax sheltered status in the United States. Cryptocurrencies are perfect for them in some regards
164  Bitcoin / Project Development / mastercoin, how will future people get mastercoin? on: November 23, 2013, 02:39:53 PM
Hello, lets say I want to speculate on gold in the blockchain

are you telling me first I would need to buy bitcoin, then buy mastercoin with some of my bitcoin (lowering my bitcoin balance), AND THEN buy an amount of gold with mastercoin, based on my remaining bitcoin

help me understand this, but for the record the way I interpret this seems prohibitive for adoption
165  Economy / Securities / Re: Are They All Scams? on: November 22, 2013, 12:41:37 PM
the few legitimate operations are all undermined by the issuer's incompetence

or an NDA Wink
166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: November 22, 2013, 06:24:44 AM
Buying 60 msc@.11

let me know if anyone would like to get filled at this price
167  Economy / Auctions / Re: Selling 130 shares of COGNITIVE on: November 18, 2013, 02:22:29 AM
reserved


prefer TAT or John for escrow
168  Economy / Auctions / Selling 130 shares of COGNITIVE on: November 18, 2013, 02:21:42 AM
Selling 130 shares of COGNITIVE, starting bid at .12 btc each

COGNITIVE currently trades on Havelock Investments
169  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] The Panama Fund, S.A. Acquires HavelockInvestments.com on: November 02, 2013, 01:57:34 AM
...funds don't need to cater to the information age....

hedge funds are pretty notorious for not having a website or even as much as a phone number... it simply isn't required for the service they provide, and in the United States they were prohibited from talking to peons until like a month ago. these 80 year old prohibitions on free speech influenced the industry world wide...

wat


SEC ban on general solicitation is being relaxed, funds could only talk to accredited investors ie. not poor people or the general middle class.

Are you talking about title ll of the JOBS Act?  You do know that public solicitation still means that all but accredited investors must be excluded from the funding round to comply? 

This stopped being lulzy awhile ago, now it's getting both sad & desperate.

yeah, thats about how they can attract accredited investors. they couldn't use the press, just tightly nit closed circles

this is about why a fund doesn't need to have a presence on internet search engines
170  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] The Panama Fund, S.A. Acquires HavelockInvestments.com on: November 02, 2013, 01:55:50 AM
Unfortunately, with international trade agreements, lifting a finger is about all that's required.

As far as I know SEC has yet to do anything about exchanges outside the US.

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Finally, please pay attention.  It is illegal to sell unregistered securities to US persons, no matter what the law of your banana republics say.
OP explicitly stated otherwise, due to either ignorance or with intent to deceive.

This may be true but if panama says its ok for the exchange to operate, it becomes SEC vs panama not SEC vs random guy.

no, they'll just seize the servers.........
171  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] The Panama Fund, S.A. Acquires HavelockInvestments.com on: November 02, 2013, 01:26:00 AM
...funds don't need to cater to the information age....

hedge funds are pretty notorious for not having a website or even as much as a phone number... it simply isn't required for the service they provide, and in the United States they were prohibited from talking to peons until like a month ago. these 80 year old prohibitions on free speech influenced the industry world wide...

wat


SEC ban on general solicitation is being relaxed, funds could only talk to accredited investors ie. not poor people or the general middle class.
172  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] The Panama Fund, S.A. Acquires HavelockInvestments.com on: November 02, 2013, 12:53:48 AM
Panama Funding Inc, S.A. is the only "Panama Fund" S.A. registered in Panama

fwiw, file number 227720

Lol, this?  http://ohuiginn.net/panama/company/id/227720
How is this silliness a "fully licensed exchange"?   What gives it more authority in dealing unregistered securities to US persons than Bitfunder et al?


well, there are a lot of assumptions though
funds are generally able to set up shop in any jurisdiction for whatever purpose, through many layers of entities for acquiring different kinds of property, such as other entities. Subsequently, they may have all the licenses or regulatory concoction to not worry about one country's securities laws.

I'm with crumbs on this... there has to be some more information on this Panama Fund thing. Google is failing me right now...

funds don't need to cater to the information age....

hedge funds are pretty notorious for not having a website or even as much as a phone number... it simply isn't required for the service they provide, and in the United States they were prohibited from talking to peons until like a month ago. these 80 year old prohibitions on free speech influenced the industry world wide

there are likely related entities in the fund that handle all the PR and marketing for other purposes, but is unrelated to acquiring other entities or the investing portion
173  Economy / Securities / Re: LITECOIN MINING PROJECT - NEW SCRPYT TECHNOLOGY [SCRYPTMINERS] Funding on: November 02, 2013, 12:27:16 AM
not the first company that claimed to have a scrypt asic, until running into the same processor memory limitations that any 5 second google search would reveal
174  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] The Panama Fund, S.A. Acquires HavelockInvestments.com on: November 02, 2013, 12:25:41 AM
Panama Funding Inc, S.A. is the only "Panama Fund" S.A. registered in Panama

fwiw, file number 227720

Lol, this?  http://ohuiginn.net/panama/company/id/227720
How is this silliness a "fully licensed exchange"?   What gives it more authority in dealing unregistered securities to US persons than Bitfunder et al?


well, there are a lot of assumptions though
funds are generally able to set up shop in any jurisdiction for whatever purpose, through many layers of entities for acquiring different kinds of property, such as other entities. Subsequently, they may have all the licenses or regulatory concoction to not worry about one country's securities laws.
175  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] The Panama Fund, S.A. Acquires HavelockInvestments.com on: November 01, 2013, 11:52:13 PM
Panama Funding Inc, S.A. is the only "Panama Fund" S.A. registered in Panama

fwiw, file number 227720
176  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 50x ASICMINER direct shares (end: 2013-11-01 20:00 UTC) on: October 31, 2013, 05:06:20 AM
so the 48 hour thing is impossible since it'll take nearly 7 actual days to get the bitcoins

It is your responsibility to ensure that there are enough available funds before placing a bid. Honoring terms and conditions and the liability that comes with a bid are key principles for every auction, especially when time is critical and the value of goods is volatile. Your retreat has immediate and significant consequences and therefore I left you a negative trust rating, which I may revoke, if come up with an adequate compensation, and encourage others to do likewise.


This is very unfortunate now.

CanaryInTheMine's was completely outbidded by stslimited and Kouye's decision was based on previous bids.

I didn't preconceive such a scenario when I created the auction terms, so there is no basis to act upon and I offer to retract those two bids.

For the ease of the auction I consider those bids as no-bids and encourage all participants to place a new bid or to confirm the old bid, if desired.

All terms of the original post still apply.

Yeah, I'm too illiquid right now in bitcoin, blame the various infrastructure problems in the securities market, coinbase, etc. I posted as soon as I realized it would be impossible to adhere to the 48 hour terms. Hadn't kept up with coinbase's liquidity problems. I know you are familiar with these issues so thats the best I can do on this matter, and apologize.

To clarify, are you encouraging others to give me a negative trust rating? I'm obligated to be defensive about that, the aforementioned reasons are why. I have other and larger trades and traders to vouch for me.
177  Other / Archival / Re: btt on: October 31, 2013, 03:25:59 AM
His info is in the contract on page 1  Roll Eyes

I called him a few days ago, left a message

he's mia
178  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 50x ASICMINER direct shares (end: 2013-11-01 20:00 UTC) on: October 31, 2013, 03:23:16 AM
I guess the whole business of "binding" is just a joke here with 0 repercussions...

coinbase killed instant and other funds are in currently illiquid stocks

so the 48 hour thing is impossible since it'll take nearly 7 actual days to get the bitcoins
179  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 50x ASICMINER direct shares (end: 2013-11-01 20:00 UTC) on: October 31, 2013, 01:33:51 AM
I'll be unable to acquire the required amount of bitcoin in this time period, sorry.
180  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 28, 2013, 05:48:26 AM
share transfer done
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