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161  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Blue Fury Support Thread. on: November 03, 2013, 07:09:04 AM
I meant to try Eligius earlier, I haven't used it in a few weeks now... but I have made most of my btc there... anyhow..

Switched the pool, I see 4 at 2.6GH/s to 3GH/s, going to going to give it a little while, but I am seeing much better numbers off the bat with Eligius (still have yet to see a HW error!).
162  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Blue Fury Support Thread. on: November 03, 2013, 06:25:49 AM
I'm up and running now on Win7, Ubuntu 13, Raspbian - Only on BFGMiner with all of them, eventually I gave up on CGMiner today...
(Of course being me, I just moved all the miners to the Ubuntu machine and enabled SSH... trying to work on a build of BFGMiner that will work with MinePeon atm.)

I tried the D-Link HUB-D7, including just using the 2 fast-charging ports, didn't see any rating increase (and even though these do generate little heat in comparison to other miners, I'm a cooling freak, so yea, there are fans). Still think there's some limiting factors in the software, I only say that because that's the world I come from and I damn well know nothing every goes right the first time, hell maybe not even the first few hundred times, no matter how good a programmer is, there are always some factors unaccounted for, overlooked, typo'ed (fking semi-colon), suddenly broken by something else (fking random updates) or just not thought of.




to boil down my TL;DR from earlier. the firmware on the BF1 that sets up the clock frequency is hardcoded at probably 52 osc6 bits which translates to about 2.2-2.3 Ghash/sec

If this were true, why would Beastlymac stating 2.7GH/s on his own system, of course, I'm assuming he would use the same firmware (and I can't see he any reason why he wouldn't nor do I doubt he didn't use the same firmware to flash the chips).

Furthermore, I've seen one sit at 2.659GH/s - 2.8xxGH/s for about an hour, granted one out of eight and after I restarted the miner to add some api parameters for BFGMiner, I haven't seen anything that high yet again.
163  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Blue Fury Support Thread. on: November 03, 2013, 04:51:43 AM
I'm up and running now on Win7, Ubuntu 13, Raspbian - Only on BFGMiner with all of them, eventually I gave up on CGMiner today...
(Of course being me, I just moved all the miners to the Ubuntu machine and enabled SSH... trying to work on a build of BFGMiner that will work with MinePeon atm.)

I tried the D-Link HUB-D7, including just using the 2 fast-charging ports, didn't see any rating increase (and even though these do generate little heat in comparison to other miners, I'm a cooling freak, so yea, there are fans). Still think there's some limiting factors in the software, I only say that because that's the world I come from and I damn well know nothing every goes right the first time, hell maybe not even the first few hundred times, no matter how good a programmer is, there are always some factors unaccounted for, overlooked, typo'ed (fking semi-colon), suddenly broken by something else (fking random updates) or just not thought of.

164  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Blue Fury Support Thread. on: November 03, 2013, 02:48:57 AM
In "software and updates", "other software"  you have to change "saucy" to "raring" in the ppa.

good catch, didn't even think about that, just went to grabbing off github.
165  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Blue Fury Support Thread. on: November 03, 2013, 02:11:11 AM
Are you using Ubuntu 13 or 12.04.xx? Just curious.
I am using 13

I switched as I was using 12.04... after switching it appears the rep is having some issues (didn't on 12.04) of which won't let you install bfgminer (that way). I checked the server, the server connection is fine, just files aren't there.

166  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Blue Fury Support Thread. on: November 03, 2013, 01:54:09 AM
Got one working on the Win7 box, cleaned up the zip file for installation. By cleaned up I mean I removed the 'Encrypt these files' option, so you could use the driver properly. Also removed the _MACOSX folder which had windows binaries in it. Not to mention, it's not on MediaFire (which since that is a fresh Win7 install it didn't have flash installed causing Chrome to loop-crash due to trying to forcefully install flash, thanks mediafire... you suck).

If anyone wants the cleaned up zip file: http://256mining.com/downloads/bf1_bfgminer_win7.zip & use the directions on on this thread after downloading.


Back to working on Ubuntu now...
167  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Blue Fury Support Thread. on: November 03, 2013, 12:25:32 AM
That is a very good point i will push to try and get it released publicly. I do find it weird that my units are hashing away at 2.7+ on Ubuntu and people haven't been able to replicate it so i am sure it isn't a hardware issue. It could be the way the hardware error rate is calculated but we are still trying to figure it out.

I tried on Ubuntu, granted I can't stand what they've done with that distro over the years, however, I first tried a VM using VMWare Fusion, BFGMiner had issues finding the devices when they directly specified (which was awkward) I thought this was an issue due to the VM (however I see a few people that have it working as a VM). The irregular behavior between users and the variance of rates would definitely suggest software issues, at least that's the conclusion I took from it. I am going to attempt to do some more builds on Ubuntu, as I've got one on a windows box, one on my iMac with a Ubuntu VM, one on a linux asus laptop, then my 5 hashing on Raspbian.

Which I am impressed by still not seeing a single hardware error also noticed these barely generate any heat. I think if you took the 5 hashing for the last hour, combined their temps it still wouldn't equal to what one ASIC USB Erupter would in 5 minutes (temperature-wise).
Yes I run them on VMware fusion on my mac with Ubuntu on the vm. I found that a vim hashes around 200-300mhs so I would definetly recommend if you can setting up a desktop with Ubuntu and using the guide bellow the first post. Yes they where designed to give off as little heat as possible.

Also I would recommend to everyone hit the rst button on the device and wait for the led to turn red before you start the mining software.

Are you using Ubuntu 13 or 12.04.xx? Just curious.
168  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Blue Fury Support Thread. on: November 02, 2013, 11:40:43 PM
That is a very good point i will push to try and get it released publicly. I do find it weird that my units are hashing away at 2.7+ on Ubuntu and people haven't been able to replicate it so i am sure it isn't a hardware issue. It could be the way the hardware error rate is calculated but we are still trying to figure it out.

I tried on Ubuntu, granted I can't stand what they've done with that distro over the years, however, I first tried a VM using VMWare Fusion, BFGMiner had issues finding the devices when they directly specified (which was awkward) I thought this was an issue due to the VM (however I see a few people that have it working as a VM). The irregular behavior between users and the variance of rates would definitely suggest software issues, at least that's the conclusion I took from it. I am going to attempt to do some more builds on Ubuntu, as I've got one on a windows box, one on my iMac with a Ubuntu VM, one on a linux asus laptop, then my 5 hashing on Raspbian.

Which I am impressed by still not seeing a single hardware error also noticed these barely generate any heat. I think if you took the 5 hashing for the last hour, combined their temps it still wouldn't equal to what one ASIC USB Erupter would in 5 minutes (temperature-wise).
169  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Blue Fury Support Thread. on: November 02, 2013, 10:58:22 PM
Well...

I spent most of the day trying different OS's on different machines (Ubuntu 12.04.3, Raspbian, Arch Linux, Windows7, OSX), different USB Hubs (Rosewill RHB-500, D-Link DUB-H7, Sateshi 12-Port, a few Belkin 7-ports, GearHead 7-port), different physical machines (3 different laptops (Win/Linux/Apple),a iMac, a VM on iMac, a VM on Win7, raspberryPi).

From my experience:
On any platform, from a compiled build or a pre-compiled executable, CGMiner just doesn't work, it never detects the devices and shuts down.

Thus far, the *only* configuration that works for me is BFGMiner 3.0.99 on Raspbian (RaspberryPi). After doing all my testing on different machines, different hubs, different OS's, I ended up back at the RaspberryPi, upon starting BFGMiner up after all my testing, I'm seeing an average of 1.8GH/s per device (currently still 5 on the HUB, I've tried more/less it doesn't change).

Conclusion:
I'm fairly certain the most of the issues being seen are software related, either the firmware is just, well, not ready or there's some missing connection that everyone seems to be having.

As a developer (granted I moved away from os-apps long ago), I would highly suggest you releasing the firmware to the public so that other developers can assist on the issues. I'm not stating the people involved aren't doing everything they can (as I'm sure LukeJr & ckolivas are doing what they can to fix the issues from within their software), but "a different set of eyes" can usually always assist indirectly (sometimes directly). As usually questions get raised as to the methods being used (etc), which will cause the original developer to see the light on things that could be the cause of issues.

Either way, I stay optimistic these are software issues, not hardware issues.
170  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [SHIPPING] 0.9 OR LESS ~ BPMC "BLUE FURY" 2.7 GH/s USB MINER! SSINC GB#9! on: November 02, 2013, 08:57:22 PM
@Beastlymac, I am noticing some low rates, I will keep all my support issues in the support thread you opened up (as I feel most people should, as that's what it's there for).

Tried to find that thread. Could you link to it, please? Could also be a good idea to add a link to it from OP.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=319419.0
171  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [SHIPPING] 0.9 OR LESS ~ BPMC "BLUE FURY" 2.7 GH/s USB MINER! SSINC GB#9! on: November 02, 2013, 07:47:40 PM
@ssinc, received my order today thanks!

@Beastlymac, I am noticing some low rates, I will keep all my support issues in the support thread you opened up (as I feel most people should, as that's what it's there for).
172  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Blue Fury Support Thread. on: November 02, 2013, 07:33:34 PM
Well...

I compiled the latest revision of CGMiner on MinePeon 0.2.4 w/options --disable-opencl --disable-adl --enable-bflsc --enable-bitforce --enable-icarus --enable-modminer --enable-ztex --enable-avalon --enable-bitfury (same options as the tutorial in Rasbian Wheezy). The devices were never detected, so I switched to Raspbian Wheezy, latest updated, first trying CGMiner per the .DEB package and instructions on the tutorial, results were the same, no devices were detected under CGMiner (they would show in lsusb).



I then uninstalled the CGMiner package (dpkg -r cgminer) and installed BFGMiner per tutorial instructions, after which the devices were detected. This is a hub that I can easily run 8 ASIC Erupters, so it should have no power issues running 8 BlueFuries, however I started off with 5 and decided to let them hash awhile to see what kind of rates I was getting...

Granted, I'm not getting any hardware errors (which is awesome),  but also not seeing GH/s rate I should be seeing. Now with this being said, I am going to try a few different pools and see what results I have. As well, I'm going to try to make a build on Raspbian of CGMiner (since I have yet to get CGMiner to work with the devices and apparently CGMiner so far, from what I've read has the best results...).



EDIT:
Just made a fresh build of CGMiner on Raspbian, still won't detect any devices, I also notice that CGMiner disables all the devices as I tried to use BFGMiner after (which was working seconds before trying CGMiner) and get 'All devices disabled, cannot mine!'. I thought that was semi-interesting...
173  Economy / Exchanges / Re: ***CEX.IO Cloud mining official page*** on: October 31, 2013, 10:11:56 PM
I was crazy excited when I discovered Cex.io, but with the introduction of the fees and the higher prices...I'm not so excited.  With the new miners coming into play, $0.001/per GHS/per hour will get very expensive as difficulty rises.  If the new standard (by January) is each person has a THs miner...then the cost per day to maintain these fees will rise exponentially while the relative mining profit is the same... i.e. you might require a 500 GH to make 0.1 bitcoin a day...then we're looking at crazy high fees without the return...there's something wrong with this fee structure. 

To fix this, they should instead charge a low transaction fee to reduce trading and profiteering.  Charging the "miners" will just chase the miners away.  Dealing with a commodity that constanly decreases in value...this is not a good idea. 

If the cost to mine at home with a cointerra @ 1000 GHS is $30 month (depending on your electricity rate -more/less)...the same cost by mining on CEX.io is...wait for it... $.001/GHS/Hour*GHS*Hour*30days = .001*1000*24*30 = $720 a month...hahaah... with diminishing profits....this model is broken before it comes into play. 

We might as well just start buying cointerra miners... this formula doesn't work.  Someone at CEX...should quickly take note, before all investors leave.  Can someone double check my math???
I'd rather be wrong...so I can keep mining with CEX.io =)

Anyone want to pool some money with me and get a 2THs?

Charging transaction fees based on the transaction amount would be a better alternative, as you said, it (definitely) will drive people away who want to use the service for mining. With the projected difficulty raises, trading let alone mining won't net profit for anyone other than CEX.io (which I'm sure they have no problem with that Wink ) but then that kind of kills off their revenue at the same time, since people would stop using the service.
174  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Linux mining distro for the Raspberry PI - MinePeon on: October 31, 2013, 10:07:09 PM
A question to Neil:

As I can't get my Bitfury to work with MinePeon (via GPIO/SPI) using MinePeon's distro, but I have it working with cgminer in a Debian distro sent by the seller, how can I install MinePeon (from the scratch) into that Debian SD, to try to see if MinePeon can "control" that cgminer?

Why does my "watch" for this tread keep falling off?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?

I am going to have another go at the spi drivers this weekend.  If you could test them for me it would be great.

Neil

He got it working sort-of... had a few permission issues and the WebUI isn't reporting the device, however CGMiner is... I asked for screenshots so I could try to help troubleshoot, he'll be sending them tomorrow (as he already left the location his miner is at).
175  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Linux mining distro for the Raspberry PI - MinePeon on: October 31, 2013, 08:17:33 PM
I did some searching in the is thread and saw similar error but not really the same
I'm trying to update from 0.2.3 to current version so I can use remote miner.

minepeon@minepeon /opt/minepeon $ sudo git pull
[sudo] password for minepeon:
remote: Counting objects: 127, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (58/58), done.
remote: Total 96 (delta 43), reused 81 (delta 28)
Unpacking objects: 100% (96/96), done.
From https://github.com/MineForeman/MinePeon
   531d5bf..4eb6c8e  master     -> origin/master
Updating 531d5bf..4eb6c8e
error: The following untracked working tree files would be overwritten by merge:
        .gitignore
Please move or remove them before you can merge.
Aborting


this is not a commit error as I saw 40 pages back. I'm pretty new at this
Removed .gitignore

Then it worked. I'm on 2.4 now

There's a lot of OS files that aren't in the repo. so while you updated some of the files, it didn't install the services, permissions, and other things that make 0.2.4 more stable. However it did update your /opt/minepeon/etc/version file, which contains the version (as that is in the repo), which doesn't do anything, you also got the update WebUI and a few other things (as they are in the repo). I would suggest you download the image and write it to a SD Card, to actually upgrade to 0.2.4, without properly doing this you more than likely will run into issues later on.
176  Economy / Exchanges / Re: ***CEX.IO Cloud mining official page*** on: October 31, 2013, 03:56:23 PM
Whats up with the orphaned blocks within the last 3 hours? https://blockchain.info/blocks/GHash.IO

Awesome that GHash.IO is ranking second for the most power in the mining pool line up. Holding 21% of the networking hashrate.

It seems they are still having some issues, but it's much better than it was - I moved my miners back now that it's settled.

With regards the proposed fee - why is it being calculated in USD? Surely it would make more sense to do it in btc? After all, that's the currency that everyone is using here......I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to stay away from the USD?

If it were .001 BTC instead of USD (lets hope it isn't a type-o on their site) then you definitely wouldn't make any money from buying GH/s, heck .001 BTC per hour per GH/s you wouldn't even make anything trading GH/s, unless you did it within the first hour.
177  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Linux mining distro for the Raspberry PI - MinePeon on: October 31, 2013, 11:48:21 AM
A question to Neil:

As I can't get my Bitfury to work with MinePeon (via GPIO/SPI) using MinePeon's distro, but I have it working with cgminer in a Debian distro sent by the seller, how can I install MinePeon (from the scratch) into that Debian SD, to try to see if MinePeon can "control" that cgminer?

@ct1aic, I'm going to try to make a build of CGMiner with the drivers they are using. Give me a little bit and I'll PM you a download link so you can try it (since I don't have a unit to test).
Hi, tk1337 and thanks for your kind help. I have a RPI only for the Bitfury, at my work and I will try it. No rush. It is mining right now with a distro sent by Miner Factory but I can't get any help from them, even for explaining me what values/files need to be modified to recompile the included cgminer (3.1.1) and get the Bitfury a bit overclocked. I'm getting only 1.96 GH/s and the kit includes a variable power supply module for overclocking.

When compiling bfgminer 3.4.0, for MinePeon, some days ago, I saw it already integrates drivers for Bitfury. I only don't know if it can use the SPI for connection to the ASIC, as I tried it and no device is detected, with the (standard) .conf included with MinePeon.

Well, they are including spidevc as well as bitfury drivers... which my attempts yesterday to compile failed because of the spidevc, I'm trying to figure out if it's attempting to look for a spi device upon the build process or what, actually just had an idea.
178  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Linux mining distro for the Raspberry PI - MinePeon on: October 31, 2013, 05:09:54 AM
I did some searching in the is thread and saw similar error but not really the same
I'm trying to update from 0.2.3 to current version so I can use remote miner.

minepeon@minepeon /opt/minepeon $ sudo git pull
[sudo] password for minepeon:
remote: Counting objects: 127, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (58/58), done.
remote: Total 96 (delta 43), reused 81 (delta 28)
Unpacking objects: 100% (96/96), done.
From https://github.com/MineForeman/MinePeon
   531d5bf..4eb6c8e  master     -> origin/master
Updating 531d5bf..4eb6c8e
error: The following untracked working tree files would be overwritten by merge:
        .gitignore
Please move or remove them before you can merge.
Aborting


this is not a commit error as I saw 40 pages back. I'm pretty new at this

If you're trying to update to 0.2.4, you will need to download the image and copy it to the SD card. There's a lot of things that got changed (OS-level) a simple git pull won't suffice.
179  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: BFL chips credits for your old computer junk. on: October 31, 2013, 04:14:12 AM
interesting idea...

If you're interested in any of this, let me know:

3x 1GB DDR2 DIMMS, Corsair 800Mhz/1024MB #CM2X1024-6400
1x Intel Pentium 4 Processor 2.60GHz #SL6WH
1x Intel Pentium 4 Processor 1.8GHz #SL6QL
1x Intel Core 2 Duo Processor 2.66GHz #E7300
1x Samsung 3.5" Hard-drive, 400GB 7200RPM PATA #HD400LD - (tested fine/wrote zeros on drive 09/07/12, hasn't been used since)
1x Seagate 3.5" Hard-drive, Barracuda 7200.11, 160GB SATA #STX-720011 (B) -  (tested fine/wrote zeros on drive 09/07/12, hasn't been used since)
1x Seagate 3.5" Hard-drive, Barracuda 7200.10, 160GB SATA #STX-L3510 (B) - (would have to test, as I didn't mark is as tested)
1x Western Digital 3.5" Hard-drive, 160GB SATA #WD1600AAJS - (tested fine/wrote zeros on drive 09/07/12, hasn't been used since)
1x Fujitsu 2.5" Hard-drive, 160GB SATA, Mac Formatted #MJA2160BH - (tested fine, needs zeros to be written to drive)
1x Seagate 2.5" Hard-drive, Momentus 5400.6, 250GB SATA #STX-54006 (B) - (tested fine, needs zeros to be written to drive)
1x Dell Pentium 4 Workstation DHP S/N: BS2ZF81, Mfg Date: 090605
1x GeForce EVGA 7600GT 256MB PCI-E, P/N 256-P2-N554-AX

Everything has been stored in anti-static bags and that was just the draw to my left  Roll Eyes
Last year I went through a phase and tested a lot, threw away anything that was extremely old or useless... lol

180  Economy / Exchanges / Re: ***CEX.IO Cloud mining official page*** on: October 31, 2013, 03:31:55 AM
Can you explain what's the deal with implementing the fee $.001 per GHS per hour on Nov. 1?  

I second this.

And how would that be deducted from our account?

Quote
We are planning to implement the maintenance fee starting from November 1st. The amount is still being decided, the approximate cost will be $0.001 per GHS / hour.

Just taking a stab in the dark here, but since just about all hosted mining services charge for maintenance/hosting/etc, this is how they are going to charge for it. But I notice it doesn't say BTC, it says dollars ($), so at the current exchange rate,  $0.001 = BTC0.000004998 (GH/s per Hour). According to the genesisBlock if you *started mining at the beginning of October*, you were looking at $0.24-$0.26/day profit, minus about $0.024 for fees, leaving you with around $0.21-0.22 profit (daily per GH/s).

At the current GH/s on CEX.io it would take you about a full month of mining to come close to ROI (at current exchange rate) per GH/s (unless of course you bought low, sold high Wink ). But since we're hitting November in less than a day, you're really only going to have one month of mining before estimated diff. jump goes crazy, you wouldn't break ROI at the current market price on CEX.io after they implement fees or even if they don't.

*waits for market price to come down now*
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