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161  Economy / Economics / Re: Try to save money while you still can, will you ? on: March 10, 2023, 04:39:46 PM

Well, the inflation in my country now is not extremely high but has already damaged the economy. The cost of living is increasing and does not seem to stop. Last week one of my friends lost his job after working in the same company for a decade. His life abruptly changed, putting him in a place where he could not support his family. If you were him, how would you survive this tough time ? As a friend, I am trying to help him as much as I can and meanwhile, I am planning to save more money to prepare for the unexpected challenges in my life. What about you ?
I also save for myself and also for the survival of my family in this very difficult time, because there really is no other choice but to continue working and earn income which I then set aside a little to save in preparation for facing difficult times. Because someone who doesn't work in conditions like today will be very complicated to live his life, so if you want to help your friend to get out of the difficulties he is facing now, try to give him a more decent job so he can live with enthusiasm like before Again.
162  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin fall below $20000 , it's a messy thread. on: March 10, 2023, 04:17:50 PM
In my opinion, the reason bitcoin is not in a very good position is because of the western countries.  If Bitcoin price is in a pumping position one week, the very next week, its horizon moves to a dumping position.  Especially the Western countries are holding Bitcoin.  But I think it should be put on hold for now.
Why do you think that it should be postponed for now? Do you have a strong and clear reason for the need to delay the pump on Bitcoin?
Because I don't think that the decline in the price of Bitcoin was caused by western countries holding Bitcoin, because those holding Bitcoin are people who understand Bitcoin and the Bitcoin market, not on the part of the state.

So you also don't have to accuse western countries in this matter because Bitcoin is owned and held by every individual even though currently there are also a small number of countries that hold Bitcoin, but I don't think it is in western countries.
163  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you think BTC would rise again? on: March 10, 2023, 04:11:19 PM
Bitcoin marketcap is currently around $390 billion and in my opinion this is a very large value, investors certainly will not let bitcoin continue to drop and they will try to pump in the hope of adding new users and they get profit, this kind of strategy is effective so I believe the bitcoin trend will immediately rise again and this year I'm sure I can touch at least $ 40k.
I hope you're not joking at this point, because if you haven't seen the market at this point or in the past two days, try stopping by the market once in a while and watch as the Bitcoin price continues to decline in the past two days to below $20K. So how do you know that there are investors who won't let Bitcoin continue to decline? Even though in fact now Bitcoin is still experiencing a relentless price drop as if no new buyers have come to the market in the past two days.

What are you talking about? What investor will not let bitcoin drop anymore and will pump it back to everyone to take profit? This is the financial market, and it's almost like gambling, meaning there will be winners and losers. The market makers aren't rich enough to give people free money, what's going on is what they want, they want us to panic sell, they want our money. If you continue being naive, you will soon lose all your money in the market.
I also don't know what he (@Lubang Bawah) is talking about right now, and even I don't think he has seen the market in two days so still think investors won't let Bitcoin fall by attracting new people into the market. To be honest, that sounds like a joke to me because I never thought that investors only want a boost in Bitcoin, even though everyone knows that investors also like to buy Bitcoin at low prices before taking profits later. So how come the investors don't let the Bitcoin price fall, while the Bitcoin price in the past two days has actually fallen back.
164  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: March 09, 2023, 09:53:01 AM
If Barcelona lose or draw their next couple of matches and Madrid win their next couple of matches then Madrid can take over Barcelona's position. But this may not happen easily.  Madrid will have a hard time getting past Barcelona.  And it won't be easy. Barcelona always play very well so Barcelona has the best chance to win the championship
Indeed, it is very difficult to expect defeat against Barcelona this season because Barcelona is increasingly looking very consistent in La Liga after failing in two other competitions such as the Champions League and the European League. If Real Madrid still wants to catch up and close the points gap with Barcelona, it means that Real Madrid must be able to win the rest of the season and hope that Barcelona can lose the remaining matches this season.
165  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you think BTC would rise again? on: March 09, 2023, 09:30:09 AM
I have never doubted or feared that bitcoin will rise again, corrections like today are normal and the market will soon rise again, it has been proven that bitcoin is rising again because there are positive issues, if in 2021 elon musk will be top trending because it can make the market rise then I'm sure there will be many of the world's top millionaires who will immediately announce to buy bitcoin so that the price will immediately rise.
The increase in Bitcoin in 2021 was not only due to the effect of Elon Musk buying Bitcoin, but at that time the market conditions were improving and there were more people buying Bitcoin on the market so that an increase in the price of Bitcoin itself was very easy to happen at that time. But for now the market conditions are different and so are the conditions for the billionaires who enter the market so that the increase in the price of Bitcoin itself still looks very slow and still tends to experience corrections like now.
166  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can you think second if crypto without internets? Impossible right. on: March 09, 2023, 08:50:52 AM
It will be a great opportunity if one can create a forum for this. The growth and popularity of cryptocurrency may be extremely in the future that even uneducated men and women in rural areas and villages in many developing countries of the world may love to be part of the crypto can the process to make crypto offline class work.
What did you guys think?
What I often think about is making profits through the crypto space by seeing more opportunities that exist and will come in the future, but along with this I also think about the risks that can occur at any time in the crypto space because the pleasure of many people in the crypto space is only happens when they make a profit. Meanwhile, when they suffer losses, not many of them have the patience to endure and some of them even leave the crypto space and run away to another place.

That type of people usually isn't a big optimist so rural people like you said also need to understand the risks as well as understand that the crypto space is an opportunity to work and make money. Because in crypto there is always a process that every new person must go through carefully.
167  Economy / Economics / Re: Twitter becoming Worlds biggest Financial Institution? on: March 09, 2023, 05:33:53 AM
In my country twitter is used by sellers to sex services by utilizing hashtags or account verification, in my opinion when twitter provides easy account verification by paying $ 8 per month it is a mistake, fraudsters will use this feature so they can cheat more, this is dangerous, especially now that the algorithm is Twitter is easily directed by buzzers for hashtag wars, we'll see if Twitter can still enter the top 5 social media rankings or not this year.
If you remember about the abuse of social media platforms as in the example of Twitter, there is always, but it also depends on someone who uses it. Because if you look more broadly at several other countries whose residents also use the same platform as Twitter, you will also find more people using Twitter for good things. Like to advance their business and also make Twitter a support service to increase visitors to the website that he manages.
168  Economy / Economics / Re: The cost of living is trying to kill the living on: March 09, 2023, 04:40:40 AM
The cost of living is getting more difficult because of rising prices, it's very difficult for workers to get a raise, especially since the impact of the pandemic is still being felt today, namely many companies are bankrupt, but we must always be optimistic, the presence of the internet, which is getting easier and cheaper, gives us opportunities to earn income In addition, even people who don't graduate from school can earn thousands of dollars a month just creating content on YouTube or TikTok.
The impact of the pandemic is no longer that big now, although there are still several companies that have gone bankrupt, not all of them are caused by the impact of the current pandemic. Because every company is highly recommended to always be able to compete with other fellow companies through their products so they don't go bankrupt.

And to make money via the internet, I think that this kind of thing has been done for a long time by many people who have skills in creating content such as videos, because the internet has developed for a long time and platforms like YouTube have also been around for a long time.
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170  Economy / Economics / Re: does bitcoin help in your economy? on: March 08, 2023, 08:18:20 AM
there are many people investing in bitcoin, some are profitable and some are losing. and I believe bitcoin has a big advantage. The question is whether when you benefit from bitcoin, you can help your economy and your family?
Why not ? Of course this will really help everyone's economy including those who already have a family in their life, because I don't think that every profit is useless. You can see for yourself in the example of all the people who work and trade every day just for the sake of getting profit, which means that any profit from it will never be wasted and is clearly very beneficial for helping everyone's economy.

Bitcoin and other cryptos still help my economy even though as time goes on our government has to ban their use through its regulations for reasons best known to them, I think the ban has been lifted. But I must say, so many people get job opportunities from Bitcoin and other crypto, so many of us no longer care whether our government can give us jobs or not, we are good with what we have
If it's still okay, that means it's still very helpful even though you don't work in a government agency for now. Because when you can still survive by continuing to work in the crypto space by investing in Bitcoin and also trading other cryptocurrencies on the market by getting profits, it is a very simple answer that every profit you get is still very beneficial for the economy in your life until At the moment.
171  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: March 08, 2023, 08:00:48 AM
Mbappe and Messi will be PSG's hope of defeating Bayern Munich in the second leg later and that seems to be the thing that the Munich defense is most afraid of if they have to deal with these two players. If the first goal is scored by PSG I think they will control the game. For the Ligue 1 standings nothing can stop PSG and I think now Marseille are starting to struggle to cover that distance.
The eight-point gap with PSG clearly makes it very difficult for Marseille to cut it because in Ligue1 it is very difficult for other teams to equalize their strength with PSG in every season including this season so that the opportunity for Marseille to catch PSG at the top of the standings will not be so easy, because PSG knows if in Ligue1 there is no opponent who is really equal for them in terms of getting trophies.
172  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can old people use bitcoin? on: March 08, 2023, 06:22:27 AM
If adoption comes around, will their be higher consumer congenial systems for old people to utilize crypto? What are your phrenic conceptions?
Why not ? Because any adoption that has been approved by all parties and all levels of society will certainly be very friendly to everyone, including parents, even though they have never used crypto. Because when the adoption of crypto actually appears to be approved, it does not mean that fiat currency will be thrown away even though it will be seen as being removed from its use in public life.

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Old human beings are the first to emerge as inclined to scams if adoptions comes around, and I suppose like crypto is a spectacular way for these guys to get screwed.
As long as these parents can talk and ask the people closest to them or their own families who they can entrust with matters related to crypto, I don't think these parents will be easily deceived by other people. Unless they always reveal personal things to everyone in their environment.

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I don't be conscious of how this is going to work out for old human beings who cannot even know private/public keys let on my very own hot/cold wallets.
And you also don't need to worry about this because parents also have a generation that they can instruct to store private things such as the private key of the wallet they use. Because when they are gone in this world, all those things will also belong to their children or grandchildren. After all, any adoption will not be hampered by old age in the few people who are still alive in this world.
173  Economy / Economics / Re: The cost of living is trying to kill the living on: March 08, 2023, 05:17:35 AM
Since 2020, the condition is same in most part of the world but not for everyone. The rich is getting richer while poor is getting poorer that is the cycle happens st every worst situations. About the inflation rate recently the cost of groceries are getting higher and I can feelmit but it isn't that worse but surely it will affect the working class people.
I have also felt how the price of food has increased at this time even though I can still try to get my food needs every day, but the level of fatigue and income in a job now has begun to be felt when the salary I earn now starts to feel small even though in terms of numbers still the same as before. However, due to the increase in food prices and the food that is often consumed every day, it feels like the amount of salary I am receiving now is starting to look a little low.
174  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Value till 2033? on: March 08, 2023, 04:58:22 AM
I was wondering that what could be the value of Bitcoin as Bitcoin Is always rising if we take a look at its peak chart from 2009 to 2023. And if it continues than what will be the price after 10 years and I am very curious to Know about this.

Maybe most of its users have a perspective that it will be good this year, of course they expect the best for the price this year, but I think Bitcoin will run in its own Line Cycle where this year there will be a good increase and maybe it will also follow with a mild correction, but it would be likely that Bitcoin will reach a new ATH even if not this year, and this may happen in the next few years and its popularity will increase significantly.
The popularity of Bitcoin has been increasing for a long time and for new ATH in Bitcoin I'm still not sure it will happen this year even though the price improvement in Bitcoin itself will continue this year. Because when Bitcoin users start to increase in number every year, price increases will also continue to occur due to more demand. But to find out the price in 10 years as asked by the OP I think it's still very difficult to say because price increases are always spiced up by corrections in the market.
175  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: March 06, 2023, 04:36:27 AM
The two teams played very well because both ended in draws, and this match showed that Real Betis had almost the same strength as Real Madrid, even though Karim Benzema had contributed on the field but still could not break the Real Betis defense. Real Betis should maintain this strategy to fight the next big team that may be difficult to beat.
Benzema's goal contribution in the first half was also canceled due to a foul and after that no goals occurred again in the match so the match ended in a draw (0 - 0). It's really unfortunate for Real Madrid because they didn't get the full points in that match, while their rival Barcelona continued to stay away from the top of the standings by getting full points when they faced Valencia.
176  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: March 06, 2023, 04:14:29 AM
This was a very unexpected result for Monaco. Troyes is one of the weakest teams in Ligue 1. It was unexpected that Monaco would lose points in this match. However, Troyes' performance against Monaco was not weak. Troyes played very well. And they definitely deserve 1 point in this match. Monaco should have performed more cautiously. Monaco would have been able to get full points in the match if they had kept their defense strong from the beginning of the match.
The spirit of the Troyes players at home was indeed very big and extraordinary so that Troyes was able to take the lead in the first half and then Monaco replied in the second half with a total of two goals through his player Wissam Ben Yedder in the 81st and also 83 minutes, but it was still not enough to bring Monaco to victory because Troyes' player Ike Ugbo was able to provide another goal for his team in 90+1 minutes and that was enough to bring Troyes to get one point at home.
177  Economy / Economics / Re: War: who benefits and how! on: March 06, 2023, 03:47:48 AM
Frankly, the US is the cause of this war, and they are the party that is receiving a lot of orders to buy weapons from allies in the world, so it can be said that the US is the most beneficial party. Besides, because of the war, the world fell into an economic crisis, also when they exported inflation to the countries that were their debtors.
Let's say what you say is true, but actually you also shouldn't accuse them like that without attaching evidence, because accusing a party without including evidence is also not good. Even though war and inflation do have causes, so everyone needs to look for the real causes to be disclosed to the public without accusing what is in each person's mind, because during a war only certain parties can benefit while most people only feel trouble.
178  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you think BTC would rise again? on: March 06, 2023, 02:39:04 AM
Judging from the long period of time BTC has not accumulate any impression, I doubt if people are still investing because of many policies formulating against cryptosystem no industries and firm wants to risk their capital again. Would the system remains this way?
Don't doubt other people who don't invest in Bitcoin, because actually until now there are still very many people who like to invest in Bitcoin and this is very independent of whatever system they currently know. And if you feel confident and still believe in Bitcoin, try investing in it because Bitcoin still has the potential to have a bright future and it won't be like this forever.

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Normally I understand this wasn't the first time BTC has experience this down slide but then it was normally market situations but now many billionares has withdrew interest in this project, then what is the hope of this project? Do you think BTC will experience better and high price?
Bitcoin still has the possibility of experiencing a higher price increase than now and if you look at the billionaires who have withdrawn money and themselves from Bitcoin at this time, it's actually not the end of Bitcoin's life because Bitcoin can still increase even though slowly. And billionaires who have benefited from Bitcoin will definitely return to Bitcoin when they no longer benefit from other projects. So be patient with the current market situation.
179  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The love I have for bitcoin on: March 06, 2023, 01:39:46 AM
When you think of cryptocurrency, the first thing that comes to your mind is bitcoin, you know why? Because it's the most reliable digital asset.
  The crypto space might be bearish right now, but bitcoin always have his way of bouncing back.
 Last year December when bitcoin was reduced to a new low due to ftx bankruptcy, most people think bitcoin is dead,  I told most of my friends to buy it as at them, they all refuse, but look at it today, it always stands tall because it is the future of finance.

Those who hear the word cryptocurrency and immediately think of Bitcoin are those who already know Bitcoin or at least have heard of Bitcoin before. Well, actually cryptocurrency itself has a lot of models and there are even people who when they hear about the term or word cryptocurrency don't immediately imagine Bitcoin in their head because basically they have never heard of Bitcoin.

If you say Bitcoin is a very reliable asset and a great one to buy and own over the long term, I think that's obvious. But if you talk about cryptocurrency to everyone, not all of them will imagine about Bitcoin or the word Bitcoin will cross their heads even though most of them can immediately think about Bitcoin because maybe in previous days they have heard from the news or other people.
180  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin 2023, Bullish or Bearish? on: March 03, 2023, 07:37:39 AM
I believe in history and history will repeat itself, which means 2023 will still be a bear year. But this year will be like 2019, bitcoin will have short-term bull runs like what happened in the first 2 months of the year. And 2023 could be the last year for those who have not bought bitcoin or want to accumulate more bitcoin should take advantage.
Considering this year as a year of opportunities to buy and collect more Bitcoins, I think that's more appropriate. But if this year is considered to be the same as 2019, it seems I disagree a little because history doesn't always repeat itself as we want and it can be the same as the year that everyone has passed. Because Bitcoin is an unstable currency and its price is difficult to predict, even though it is a good asset to buy and invest.
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