Neluns thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4694028.0 exhibits all the hallmarks of a botted thread with numerous newbie accounts raining platitude about the project, answering each other, and completely ignoring questions directed to them. But that's not the problem Neluns claims to be registered in NYC and SEC compliant. However, for such an "American" company, they seem to quite incapable of finding that one English dude to write their PR as exemplified here: https://medium.com/@iconeluns/the-manhattan-blockchain-fund-is-an-anchor-investor-of-neluns-b2d99656eb12Then, you've got the "Binance List in Progress" thingy on their site. Anybody who's been around long enough knows NDA prevents startups from naming exchanges they are in discussion with (at least the top 50), not to mention stamping it on their homepage. Then you've got this Russian language investigation put together by a very astute and concerned community member: https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/Concerned by all these, I went into their TG channel to alert them to the concerns on BTT. Next thing I knew, I got the boot. I hope its not, because I made an investment too Unfortunately, I wish I wasn't the bearer of this news, but from the tone of your post, I think you too can tell that a lot just doesn't add up with the project - not to mention the countless claims and promises they have made and failed to deliver on any Do you think there's a slight chance for refunds? Or at least an apology for messing up. |
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Quick question, is the explorer back up and done with further testing?
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This project has been all shades written all over it and I actually warned my friends about it. Thank God I'm vindicated today. Not sure they collected that much in their ICO, even though they claim to have received that amount in contributions, but a scam remains one. Now they've taken to deleted any post that's critical of them. It's unfortunate their investors have been duped and may never get refunds.
It's nice to be vindicated, but it's saddening to not be listened to in the first place. Now the TG channel is dead quiet - though they seem to still be spam adding folks. ANN thread is still be botted though. If they're spam adding people, TG should restrict their channels? You know, as most people will report. Don't think Telegram works that way. They may block the channel creator temporarily from posting on Telegram, but he can always claim that it wasn't his account that was spam adding folks - basically those spam adding are individuals beyond their control Hmm I surely won't want to be spam added. Well, what will happen to those who invested in it now? |
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This project has been all shades written all over it and I actually warned my friends about it. Thank God I'm vindicated today. Not sure they collected that much in their ICO, even though they claim to have received that amount in contributions, but a scam remains one. Now they've taken to deleted any post that's critical of them. It's unfortunate their investors have been duped and may never get refunds.
It's nice to be vindicated, but it's saddening to not be listened to in the first place. Now the TG channel is dead quiet - though they seem to still be spam adding folks. ANN thread is still be botted though. If they're spam adding people, TG should restrict their channels? You know, as most people will report. |
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So are we going to be able to deploy our masternodes and all of that? Is there already partnerships with businesses to accept STP or what's the purpose of the coin? I really hope the team knows all of this or have a plan to address these subjects at least.
You will need to go through the WP to fully understand the purpose of the coin. Here: https://stashpay.io/whitepaper.html |
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A lot of new ICOs will say they raised x amount of money but no-one has published a public facing wallet for us to verify those funds. I'd be wary of any ICO claiming to raise that amount, clearly a scam
Actually some scam ICOs are masterminds. They make sure they provide false documents to convince |
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Well neluns ico is obviously illegitimate  Illegitimate is an understatement. They are an outright scam and the amount they claim to have raised is bogus at best. It seems to be a common trend among scammy icos to inflate the contributions they receive to excite confidence in potential investors and deceive them into thinking they are legit and people are contributing. If you find their payment address(es) it will tell a different story. On that amount they claim to have raised, I agree with you. It's just too much to even make any sense. I'm pretty sure that's the first mistake they made, that led to everyone knowing they're scam. |
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Surprise!
Said nobody.
Neluns promised to list on smaller exchanges this week and rattled off a series of names including Bancor, Yobit, and the likes.
Guess who got listed?
Not Neluns.
Admin's now saying says they will be announcing asap
Plus they are now spam adding followers
Why bother to fight back? I mean, can't they see that whatever they try to do only pulls them down. No need for all the promises 😑 |
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Snapshot is now on the blockchain and for a few hours most were able to see their balance using the blockchain explorer. Explorer is down now for further testing. Will be back up shortly
Okay. But will that be after 24-48 hours, because tomorrow is weekend and all. Just want to know exact date if possible |
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On the telegram channel, they said " We've finished RPC testing and are now finalising unit testing" It sounds like the release of Stash Wallet will be announced soon I would like the transition to STASHPay blockchain and the launch of wallets not to be too fast. Is there any news about the number of coins needed to launch the mastersnode and indicators of the planned yield? 10,000 STP coins is needed to run an iNode. Anyway, how is the development of the blockchain doing? When will be able to use the masternodes? I thought it would be announce somewhere in October but it's November now. They said the ETA is set for this month's ending right, so let's give the team some space to breath and work. And who prevents them from working. Let them work. People are just interested in some details. I am sure that the team will provide all the necessary information as soon as they have this opportunity. Exactly my point, they deliver when it's ready |
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I thought this is the same NEL that Woshib before posted if i'm not mistaken. Then it rings a bell when I saw the manhattan fund article that they have raised more than $100m. This is really alarming if that many bump posts by newbies in their ANN have raised fake marketing for other new investors. Good thing we still have concerned members not just being blinded by the rewards of the bounty or any rewards campaign.
Unfortunately, we still have lots of blind members. A peak at their bounty channel revealed so many "Ooohs", "Aaaahs", and "Moons" because the admin posted the Binance application thing... Then, there was this "encouraging" post by one of the admins Lee White ( https://t.me/neluns_bounty/6027) Guys, @alexajoan was an invited bounty manager on outsourcing from marketing company based in San Francisco. Her job is well done.
Now our CTO Darrell Martin is on duty of bounty manager till December 31. All questions about bounty campaign you can ask here in chat.
We’ve noticed some negative activity of bounty hunters who aren’t satisfied with our bounty campaign. We won’t give any comments about this stupid morons and haters. Neluns is the American Company and it contradicts to our policy. But we will definitely take into account all negative comments from bounty hunters when distribution begins and they won’t get NLS tokens because it brakes the rules of our bounty campaign.
Before you show off hate and write negative comments about our project turn on your brain and think about the consequences.Yes... very professional and official to call folks stupid and morons on a public channel They statements every time is funnier and funnier. It’s just funny when they call themselves an American Company and a lady wears an american flag. Also statements about listing on the Binance exchange. That contradicts the rules of the Binance exchange and generally logic. And according to the rules of Binance, such information cannot be disclosed, if it were so, no one would have said this before the listing procedure was completed. This is another fact proving that Neluns is an illegitimate company and its team are fraudsters. And the listing on the Binance exchange will never take place. I like how it is written about this in this article: https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/page-2Wow! Not just stupid but morons too 😂 Really professional... For goodness sake, they're acting like children and candies 🙄 Seriously this 👉 "But we will definitely take into account all negative comments from bounty hunters when distribution begins and they won’t get NLS tokens because it brakes the rules of our bounty campaign"? BRAKES really? Are you guys four wheeled horse drawn carriage or something. No ma'am. They are THE AMERICAN COMPANY and we're obviously too dumb to figure out that they are THE AMERICAN COMPANY inspite of all the flag waving, themed accessories and apparels. They statements every time is funnier and funnier. It’s just funny when they call themselves an American Company and a lady wears an american flag. Also statements about listing on the Binance exchange. That contradicts the rules of the Binance exchange and generally logic. And according to the rules of Binance, such information cannot be disclosed, if it were so, no one would have said this before the listing procedure was completed. This is another fact proving that Neluns is an illegitimate company and its team are fraudsters. And the listing on the Binance exchange will never take place. I like how it is written about this in this article: https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/page-2Speaking about the flag. Is it just me, or that flag thing is kinds cliché? I mean most of them look more Russians than American I'll say. They can be anyone of nationality and representatives of any country. It is impossible to say for sure that they are russians, romanians or ukrainians. But we can say for sure that they are not americans and their english is not the main language. Excuse me for my french  Of course it doesn't matter where they come from or who they are. But the fact that they're using American flag to obviously attract attention is Not So Professional. They're using a flag to cover a lie |
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LOL. At this time, I don't think there is any ICO project can rise that much money ). There are so many great ICO projects but they're still being in trouble to rise to much smaller amount of money while almost investors are trying to stay away from investing in ICO project when this downward trend still happening. Was supposed to say the same thing on my mind too where I cant really believed that there would be a certain ICO that can raised up 100M on this bear market even back in the years reaching out that threshold of 100M would already be outstanding but talking this declining market even getting 2-3M usd funding would really be hard. It is shady as hell when a project do tell about getting 100M funding plus projecting too good to be true gains on upcoming years? Agreed. But what I just don't understand is, why $136M? Can't they just go for something like 1.5M or highest 20M and not the extreme 136M. 20M would have been a better option, a more sane pretty little lie |
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Well neluns ico is obviously illegitimate could not agree more. raised over $100 millions in this kind of market ? while everybody is fearing the market and the dump ? another thing is, they have 1200 followers on their twitter. does it make a sense to you guys ? for me, i do not. if they could raise that much of money and all of them were real, they should have more than that because it can be considered as successful project in 2018 and this project surely will get an attention from people and medias. (let's not talk about their excuses and incompetence plus their website is way too simple). Just how dumb do they think we are? How is it possible to raise such money, in this bear market. Perhaps they're selling flags too 😁 |
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I thought this is the same NEL that Woshib before posted if i'm not mistaken. Then it rings a bell when I saw the manhattan fund article that they have raised more than $100m. This is really alarming if that many bump posts by newbies in their ANN have raised fake marketing for other new investors. Good thing we still have concerned members not just being blinded by the rewards of the bounty or any rewards campaign.
Unfortunately, we still have lots of blind members. A peak at their bounty channel revealed so many "Ooohs", "Aaaahs", and "Moons" because the admin posted the Binance application thing... Then, there was this "encouraging" post by one of the admins Lee White ( https://t.me/neluns_bounty/6027) Guys, @alexajoan was an invited bounty manager on outsourcing from marketing company based in San Francisco. Her job is well done.
Now our CTO Darrell Martin is on duty of bounty manager till December 31. All questions about bounty campaign you can ask here in chat.
We’ve noticed some negative activity of bounty hunters who aren’t satisfied with our bounty campaign. We won’t give any comments about this stupid morons and haters. Neluns is the American Company and it contradicts to our policy. But we will definitely take into account all negative comments from bounty hunters when distribution begins and they won’t get NLS tokens because it brakes the rules of our bounty campaign.
Before you show off hate and write negative comments about our project turn on your brain and think about the consequences.Yes... very professional and official to call folks stupid and morons on a public channel They statements every time is funnier and funnier. It’s just funny when they call themselves an American Company and a lady wears an american flag. Also statements about listing on the Binance exchange. That contradicts the rules of the Binance exchange and generally logic. And according to the rules of Binance, such information cannot be disclosed, if it were so, no one would have said this before the listing procedure was completed. This is another fact proving that Neluns is an illegitimate company and its team are fraudsters. And the listing on the Binance exchange will never take place. I like how it is written about this in this article: https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/page-2Wow! Not just stupid but morons too 😂 Really professional... For goodness sake, they're acting like children and candies 🙄 Seriously this 👉 "But we will definitely take into account all negative comments from bounty hunters when distribution begins and they won’t get NLS tokens because it brakes the rules of our bounty campaign"? BRAKES really? Are you guys four wheeled horse drawn carriage or something. No ma'am. They are THE AMERICAN COMPANY and we're obviously too dumb to figure out that they are THE AMERICAN COMPANY inspite of all the flag waving, themed accessories and apparels. They statements every time is funnier and funnier. It’s just funny when they call themselves an American Company and a lady wears an american flag. Also statements about listing on the Binance exchange. That contradicts the rules of the Binance exchange and generally logic. And according to the rules of Binance, such information cannot be disclosed, if it were so, no one would have said this before the listing procedure was completed. This is another fact proving that Neluns is an illegitimate company and its team are fraudsters. And the listing on the Binance exchange will never take place. I like how it is written about this in this article: https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/page-2Speaking about the flag. Is it just me, or that flag thing is kinds cliché? I mean most of them look more Russians than American I'll say. |
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On the telegram channel, they said " We've finished RPC testing and are now finalising unit testing" It sounds like the release of Stash Wallet will be announced soon I would like the transition to STASHPay blockchain and the launch of wallets not to be too fast. Is there any news about the number of coins needed to launch the mastersnode and indicators of the planned yield? 10,000 STP coins is needed to run an iNode. Anyway, how is the development of the blockchain doing? When will be able to use the masternodes? I thought it would be announce somewhere in October but it's November now. They said the ETA is set for this month's ending right, so let's give the team some space to breath and work. |
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I thought this is the same NEL that Woshib before posted if i'm not mistaken. Then it rings a bell when I saw the manhattan fund article that they have raised more than $100m. This is really alarming if that many bump posts by newbies in their ANN have raised fake marketing for other new investors. Good thing we still have concerned members not just being blinded by the rewards of the bounty or any rewards campaign.
Unfortunately, we still have lots of blind members. A peak at their bounty channel revealed so many "Ooohs", "Aaaahs", and "Moons" because the admin posted the Binance application thing... Then, there was this "encouraging" post by one of the admins Lee White ( https://t.me/neluns_bounty/6027) Guys, @alexajoan was an invited bounty manager on outsourcing from marketing company based in San Francisco. Her job is well done.
Now our CTO Darrell Martin is on duty of bounty manager till December 31. All questions about bounty campaign you can ask here in chat.
We’ve noticed some negative activity of bounty hunters who aren’t satisfied with our bounty campaign. We won’t give any comments about this stupid morons and haters. Neluns is the American Company and it contradicts to our policy. But we will definitely take into account all negative comments from bounty hunters when distribution begins and they won’t get NLS tokens because it brakes the rules of our bounty campaign.
Before you show off hate and write negative comments about our project turn on your brain and think about the consequences.Yes... very professional and official to call folks stupid and morons on a public channel Wow! Not just stupid but morons too 😂 Really professional... For goodness sake, they're acting like children and candies 🙄 Seriously this 👉 "But we will definitely take into account all negative comments from bounty hunters when distribution begins and they won’t get NLS tokens because it brakes the rules of our bounty campaign"? BRAKES really? Are you guys four wheeled horse drawn carriage or something. |
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Can really smell something worrying here, like:
The price of one NLS token will reach $1,200 by 2021.
It just seems kinda weird that some coin's bounty would present this kind of info so surely like it was the only possible outcome in the point of view from the coin's price.
It all can be a totally worthless worrying but still, seems weird.
It's truly a shame that this seems like a scam, would have been nice if it were real  |
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They are a clear scam. First they are saying they raised $136 m with just some 850 investors which they are claiming as institutional investors, seems absurd. Then the Manhattan fund which was supposed to have invested $1.5 million has a website hosted on same server as their official websites.
They are clearly a scam.
I read this article three times https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/There is one moment and I wanted to clarify with you: The Manhattan Blockchain Fund of which the Neluns ICO team told us it really is located at: 60 Wall St New York, NY 10005, United States? But at this address is located Deutsche Bank New York: 60 Wall St New York, NY 10005, United States. And here is the proof of this, here is the link to the official page of Deutsche Bank New York: https://www.db.com/usa/content/en/Contact.html This is the address of the Deutsche Bank New York and The Manhattan Blockchain Fund is no any fund there. It also means that The Manhattan Blockchain Foundation does not exist. Did I understand everything correctly? Yes you're absolutely accurate on that. And do you also noticed that all nelunsbank.com, neluns.io sites and even their “secret” foundation themanhattanfund.com are created on the same template? Meaning its hosted on one server, and also registered with just one domain name registrar. You can check domain names here: https://www.whois.com/whois/ |
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Well neluns ico is obviously illegitimate |
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Stash Admin Is there any specefic date for releasing Stash Wallet? or it will take time to make announcement related to Stash wallet.
I noticed that this team does not make forecasts, preferring to announce everything in fact. By this, I think that as soon as the wallet is released, we will immediately find out about it. You're right about the not pre-announcing development. Nothing is set in stone and with new blockchain development you have to be extremely thorough. Nor having a fixed date hanging over one's head tends to help a lot Yes it's actually preferable to be notified when it's so and not probably. Meaning I appreciate the fact that the team only promise what they can and will fulfill at exact date. |
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