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161  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is a Madmax outcome coming before 2020? Thus do we need anonymity? on: December 28, 2014, 11:49:34 AM
BitcoinFreak12 and interlagos,

Bottom-up organization devolves to centralization and corruption, when taxes need to be collectivized.

Correction: centralization in the presence of any pressures, such as the need to survive in a competitive environment. Taxation is just one example of a cost. It's cherry-picking and unfair lynching because it's easily identifiable and therefore a soft target.

Other costs of doing productive work might be the time spent, or the "sweat" energy required. But there the feedback loop is much tighter: people quickly notice that as soon as they stop working, the resources stop flowing. It doesn't require a high IQ to see the connection. However, the bigger the organisation and the more layers of indirection and bureaucratic absorption, the harder it is to see who pays for your servants to clean for you.


The error An-Capers and Libertarians are making is failing to identify government as an unavoidable consequence of a long evolutionary series of private mergers and acquisitions, economies of scale, internal cooperation / mutual back-scratching, hostile takeovers, anti-competitive behaviour, maintaining hegemony, corruption-collapse-rebuilding, and all that other utopian freedom-loving goodness.

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The only form of decentralization that will resist centralization is as I have described on this page and the previous page of this thread. Review the post where I explained how to technologically invert the Political Economics so that the resources are pushing away from the center (making the intermediaries dumb) and out to the individuals at the edge of the social interaction network. In this way, paradigms shifts are never suppressed by the center power, because the center has no power.

Resources pushing out from the centre? Care to elaborate? Sounds like sunlight, or some low-entropy state bathing everyone with excess energy, in which case the flow should be instantaneous unless there's friction. You seem to be complaining that the friction doesn't start at the skin of the organism, rather it starts somewhere outside, feeding a layer of bureaucratic fat. IMO a much bigger disruption than 3d printers and related individual knowledge creation tools, would be a breakthrough with domestic LENR/cold fusion/whatever ultra-safe and abundant energy that bypasses the oil and gas giants. Then you get your reversal.

162  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Mr. Lukashenko on: December 27, 2014, 10:49:58 PM
3. Managed to stay friends with Russia.

4. As a result of a special relationship with Russia, Belarus managed to receive the world’s lowest price on Russian gas and very favorable Russian loans.

5. Let’s not forget: Belarus, together with Kazakhstan and Russia is one of the three founding members of Eurasian Union.

All the above factors, but especially the cheap, cheap gas paved the way to the so-called ‘Belarusian miracle.’ Belarus pays something to the tune of $165 for its gas, which is about the same as heavily subsidized internal Russian price. Compare that to $350-400+ EU pays. The new price for gas for Ukraine is about $385, however, they don’t pay that either. Such gas price makes Belarusian economy extremely competitive internationally. Obviously, without Russian almost free gas and Russian subsidies Belarusian miracle they are so proud of would have never happened.

So, Belarus' "competitiveness" (what products do they manufacture, anyway? Do you have any idea?) is completely reliant on Putin's generosity. And when Putin decides to cancel the subsidies, all hell will break loose in North Korea Belarus, and it will all be the EU's/NATO's fault, the same as Ukraine, and your White Russian "brothers" will be sworn enemies of Russia.

Thanks for the heads-up!
163  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Mr. Lukashenko on: December 22, 2014, 06:44:08 PM
"20 years" does not necessarily equals to a "dictator". You are looking at it from the pseudo-democratic viewpoint. It can also mean "a ruler", or "a monarch". It all depends on the standards. Belarus is the only state of the former USSR and USSR satellites that retained its industry and agriculture after USSR got broken down. Living standards are high - I know one family from Lithuania, who moved to Belarus because housing and job conditions are better there.

Wow! Send us postcards when you stop talking shit, and move there.
164  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Mr. Lukashenko on: December 22, 2014, 02:18:52 AM
Never head this guy.

"President" of Belarus since 1994.

247crypto should move to that amazing country.
165  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Murder or homocide if admittedly fooled into having anal sex with a man? on: December 21, 2014, 11:57:23 PM
You are a drunk, stupid, hormone crazed young serviceman strutting out on the prostitution nightlife for some nookie. You take a hot "chick" back to the hotel and screw her tight hole.

Suddenly you realize in your stupor you were having anal sex and she has a cock.

Repulsed into a rage you strangle her to death.

Murder or homocide?

My opinion is both parties are culpable thus frustrated homocide not premeditated murder.


So, "homicide" = accidental murder? Not sure if I can handle such high-level mental gymnastics this close to xmas.

Quick question:
Does "latent prejudice" count as a form of premeditation? After all, the hatred/disgust/whatever was just sitting there in the perpetrator's mind the entire time, like a ticking time-bomb, just waiting for him to get drunk so he could violently overreact.

I don't see any point in the US habit of distinguishing between premeditation and non-premeditation. It just means that the smarter the killer, the more likely they are to get away with a light sentence or none at all.
166  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Microsoft bastards are uploading your private picture on the internet on: December 21, 2014, 11:04:03 PM
I've noticed a lot of facebook and skype "irritants" lately. It's almost as if they're deliberately trying to piss people off so that they disconnect and isolate themselves for ideological reasons such as privacy or unfavourable terms and conditions.

It's fucking suspicious, so keep as many communication channels open as you can in the near future.
167  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New James Bond leaked script talks about Bitcoin. Is this real? on: December 17, 2014, 06:33:29 PM
 Roll Eyes

Come on guys... This took me like 5 minutes:

JAMES BOND
(Suavely, pressing his poker chips into the cashier's bosom.)
I'll be cashing out now.

CASHIER
$17 million dollars. Quite a hefty sum. Where would you like it sent?

JAMES BOND
(Flashing his Bitcoin Visa card)
Bitcom, and make it snappy.

CASHIER
Of course, Mr. Bond, but you realise that confirmations usually take 10 minutes?

JAMES BOND
(raises an eyebrow)
Maybe we'll get lucky?

**Camera pans to Bond's earpiece; cuts to Moneypenny in lycra, benchpressing while wearing a headset.**

MONEYPENNY
Liverpool is boosting their hashrate as we speak.

**camera cuts to some red-hot reactor rods getting hotter**

You've got 2 minutes, Commander Bond. Don't make me come and fetch you.
168  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Empire -- RSFSR under USSR -- Russian Federation on: December 17, 2014, 12:45:08 PM
Let me play a devil's advocate role for a while.
There are a couple of reason for why some set equation sign between Russia and USSR.

Before the coup d'etat of 1917
Was it "bloodless"?

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Now, taking a step back, it is a sad irony that Soviet ideology was built on the works of Marks and Engels - two vocal russophobes, who in their works wrote that Russia must be broken up. Lenin, a half-German, was also a russophobe with a personal grudge against the royal family. It is now wonder that when Lenin came to power through the coup d'etat, he promptly set about breaking up Russia. Ironically, he is the founding father of at least 4 states: Ukraine, Finland, Latvia and Estonia. About 1.5 million Russian people died as a result of orders that can be traced to Lenin. He also pushed for abolishing Cyrillic alphabet and Westernising Russia, The russophobic policy later prevailed in the Soviet Union. While other republics could demonstrate their national identities, it was unaceptable to declare oneself as Russian, you were immediately stamped as chauvinist. There were many other manifistations of russophobia in USSR, Russian national conciousness was seen as a threat to the existence of USSR's elites.

You're being way too paranoid and small-minded about patriotic labels, and you are missing the bigger picture.

Apparently, the Brits have to call themselves "British" on their census forms, instead of English. Is England being "destroyed from within by the evil British Empire"? No, the idea is laughable. England basically IS Great Britain, and the different label is just political correctness to make the satellite states feel more comfortable. What is far more likely is that for example the Scottish and Welsh cultures are gradually being eroded and diluted due to the overwhelming dominance of the English language.

Do you think the imperialistic Russians could have just told the Estonians and Latvians "come, volunteer to join Russia! The name of your country will change to Russia, but that's just a minor technicality to save ink on maps. Everything else will be the same. You'll be able to keep your own little quirky culture, and trade will improve. We'll allow you to export more goods to Moscow."

Wow! Sounds like a great deal, right? Roll Eyes

Of course nobody would ever buy that bullshit. As usual, it would be a long and expensive war. The Russians just needed a better story (to reduce military costs), and Soviet ideology was that story.

"Hey look! We're not Russia any more! Those guys are gone. We have grown beyond such primitive patriotic labels. We are now a friendly Union! Here's a leaflet explaining Marx' Dialectical Gobbledegook. We invite you to join us! By the way, pay no attention to our giant Russian Soviet army, they're just doing unrelated exercises next to your border for no reason. Oh and... if you do decide to join us peacefully, we would require you teach the Russian language in your schools. It's just a small technicality to promote friendly relations while Moscow steals all your stuff makes really good trade deals with you."


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Nevertheless, all the territories that were part of greater Russia (with the exception of Finland) later came under the umbrella of Soviet Union, and Russian was the lingua franca of the USSR. So, from the outside it very much looked like Russia, while politically, on the inside, Russia was bleeding its lands...
Roll Eyes
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The use of Russian language is persistent today.
Of course it is. That was one of the most important parts of the "Soviet" expansion.
169  Other / Politics & Society / Re: One of the biggest political lie is revenge... I don't understand this concept;) on: December 16, 2014, 10:09:52 PM
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Was I able to assist you with understanding revenge?

Absolutely not, sadly, you just confirm that it has no meaning what so ever. There is a risk (a rapist) that committed a crime (a rape) it makes the elimination of the reoccurrence (a second rape) only possible if said risk is hedged perfectly which is only 100% guaranteed, no pay back, no kick back, no what ever escape by death.
Your perfect hedging would require the destruction of mankind to prevent all future rapes.

You assume that a freak occurrence at time X, "the rape", would help you forecast future occurrences of other rapes. Are you an economist by any chance? There might be real-life trends, such as a disproportionately high number of serial rapists in the statistics, which suggest that there are additional factors involved, but you're only able to identify those trends by analysing what was. In the scenario you've given, there's no information to suggest that one rape changes the likelihood of the same person committing future rapes.

Analysis of multiple rape crimes might reveal some more trends. But it could also reveal that various other people who are statistically "at risk" never commit such crimes, or that some actual rapists would have been considered "low risk".

Although there often seems to be an element of prevention, and people may say "this person is very dangerous, so he should be locked up for a long time", pure prevention is not sufficient to describe the practical reality of justice. Due to the existence of those "other factors", the earlier assumption is unsound.

So that just leaves a few other options like rehabilitation and restorative justice.
Rehabilitation might include something like education to reduce those other factors. I think revenge is also a factor that fits here. For example, prison might be unpleasant and generally designed to make the prisoner feel some of the pain that their victim felt -- and that could be educational.

There is also an emotional element. The public at large is represented by the state, and they also want to feel safe, even if they're irrational or not very smart. And the rest of the public also wants to feel safe, hoping that they won't get caught in the cross-fire if the irrational group is disappointed.
170  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Empire -- RSFSR under USSR -- Russian Federation on: December 15, 2014, 08:45:10 PM
What I am saying is that Russia under USSR was a shadow of its former self pre-1917 coup d'etat. Yes, the shots were called from Moscow, but who were in power there then?

Why do you bother asking if you are never interested in what other people have to say on this?

You're always complaining that Russia was just a victim of the USSR dictatorship, yet you seem to like that style of leadership.

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How was the money distributed? Russia (RSFSR as it was called then) dissolved politically into shadows during USSR era. It had its own government but it had little say over the running of RSFSR, unlike the local governments of the other republics.

Note that RSFSR lost its territories on the whim of the leaders of USSR and through other machinations, without consulting the government and population of RSFSR. For example, Kazahstan and Kirgizija became republics within USSR (and are now separate states), but before 1930s they were a part of RSFSR. Lenin wrote off Novorossia to Ukraine. Stalin presented Georgia (his homeland) with Abhazia and South-Sossetia. Hrushjov made a generous personal gift to Ukraine, bypassing USSR's constitution and not consulting with RSFSR government - Crimea.

Crimea river...

Have you considered that the USSR was just Russia's alter-ego? They just changed the label so that Russia would not get blamed after a future "coup" or "collapse". People sometimes do similar things with limited-liability companies. If it goes bankrupt, they just start a new company under a different name. Or, if they want to try something different, they won't want to risk damaging the label of the old brand, so they create a second company.
171  Other / Politics & Society / Re: One of the biggest political lie is revenge... I don't understand this concept;) on: December 15, 2014, 07:13:47 PM
I only understand "exposure", risk suppression, mitigation or what ever term you may use.

Ex:
When I say kill the rapist...
You say that I want to "revenge"... It's wrong, it's your mental conception that leads you to this concept.
I just want to risk suppress. Rapist dead = no more rape. Rape suppression successful.

I don't see revenge, could you help me better understand your conceptual fallacies?  Which can be translated by providing them a "second chance"... wtf once is enough. why don't you agree? what are your mental justification?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_crimes

Revenge would be a desire to inflict pain on an oppressor or their descendants (for example: Soviet = oppressor; modern Russian = a trained descendant of a pair of sexually aroused Soviets), so that the recipient of the revenge is taught empathy.

How does it teach empathy? The revenge attack would be a blunt form of communication that informs the original oppressor of the quality of the victim's pain.

However, some oppressors are just slow learners, or they're too stupid to see the connection between their earlier actions (for example: Soviet war crimes) and the reaction (for example: the creation of NATO). And in the case of "individuals" (people), society usually tries to offer a wiser alternative called justice, so that they don't destroy themselves with endless tit-for-tat fighting. It also acknowledges the existence of a 'commons', but you'd already know all about that.


By the way:

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could you help me better understand your conceptual fallacies?

In case you didn't notice, I got annoyed at you for that comment. You seem pretty arrogant. Why ask for assistance if you've already made up your mind that you know better, and that your readers are intellectually inferior?

Was I able to assist you with understanding revenge?
172  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: December 14, 2014, 01:19:01 PM

Your statement is exactly the reason why you should differentiate between Russia and Soviet Union. Under Soviet Union, Russia was an occupied country, itself a victim.
Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
We've been through this before. You and your comrades need therapy.

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During coup d'etat of 1917 Russia was essentially hijacked,
You hijacked yourselves with a victim mentality. And when the Soviet Union collapsed, the other half of the country felt like poor victims, somehow oppressed by the invisible Americans.
173  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sanction against Russia for West-choreographed conflict in Ukraine on: December 13, 2014, 08:34:35 PM
Sweden: Russian RUST Bucket Nearly Collides With Passenger Plane

Oops! Wasn't Sweden until recently sympathetic to the Russian-choreographed aggression?

Didn't the pilot's mum ever tell him not to drink the wiper fluid?
174  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sanction against Russia for West-choreographed conflict in Ukraine on: December 13, 2014, 08:04:36 PM
I remember that Russia imposed sanctions against EU pork products back in 2013, making up some story about some rare disease: African swine flu or something similar.

You want to eat infected meat, go ahead your decision


 Roll Eyes

You Russians are so brainwashed. You are trained to be ultra-sceptical of the "evil West", yet you swallow your own country's lies like naive babies.
175  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sanction against Russia for West-choreographed conflict in Ukraine on: December 13, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
I think EU shouldn't put sanctions against Russia,
it's hurting too much European companies and shutting out a huge market with
great potential. This whole us versus them thing is so dumb. We should keep
trading each other so everyone can get richer and peace maintained.

Wait, which sanctions are you talking about?
As far as I am aware, it's Russian sanctions against the EU. The Russian policy is to prevent EU exporters from selling their meat and fruit products to Russia. Is the Russian media saying something different?

I remember that Russia imposed sanctions against EU pork products back in 2013, making up some story about some rare disease: African swine flu or something similar. That was planned aggression by Russia, even before any of that Maidan stuff happened.
176  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: December 13, 2014, 12:29:04 PM
Ukraine is going to increase spending on Nazional Guard sixfold. At the time, when people in Odessa region get electricity only 2 hours a day, and when the rest of the social system of the country falls apart:
http://lifenews.ru/news/146907

Oh, well, at least Ukrainian Naftogas has come out clean - it blames Ukrainians of energy dependency on Russia, that Ukrainians use three times more gas than Europeans: Smiley
http://www.gazeta.ru/business/news/2014/12/13/n_6739625.shtml

You're not being very nice to your gas customers. Do you tell your valuable clients at McDonald's that they're unhealthy and fat? Probably not! That would be rude, and YOUR income depends on keeping those customers happy so they come back multiple times. Don't they teach you anything in Russia?
177  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile on: December 13, 2014, 11:39:06 AM
Malaysia has finally (!) been allowed to participate in investigation of the shoot-down of its own plane. Only half-a-year later. Once all the evidence has been taken care of...

Hard at work on Saturday morning? You love your country far too much. It's not healthy, Nemo  Grin
178  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why is European Union Fundamentally doomed... on: December 13, 2014, 11:00:26 AM
European Union was never based on something different than money, unlike the US were. We don't share a culture, or beliefs, or something that makes us stand united. We place our union on economy, and we oblige every country to be as the central bank wants them to be, thus the Stability and Growth Pact.

It's very much a cultural union. Anyone who says otherwise simply doesn't understand, or is disrespectful of, the cultural similarities between the member countries.

Take for instance, alcohol tax. It would not be possible if the various countries did not all have pretty similar policies, based on similar beliefs that drinking alcohol has some social costs, and that those costs should be accounted for. It's actually pretty sensible and I challenge Libertarians to describe a VIABLE free market alternative where things like property damage, violence, and health problems from alcohol are all paid privately. Let me guess, drunks will be put in private prisons, where they will work until they pay off their debt to someone's private police/insurer?

VAT is another common feature. Most taxes can be considered unfair when taken in isolation because they always target some specific group, while other groups don't have to pay anything. VAT is pretty broad-sweeping and discouraging excessive consumerism isn't such a bad idea. All that stuff about protecting the environment, raising health and education standards, has its roots in cultural values. Money is just the 'oil' for the machine.

Having a formal "union" is an acknowledgement that the various countries are better off cooperating together, rather than putting up artificial borders. The size and economy of scale gives the EU member countries much better negotiating power when trading with other large countries such as the US, Russia, or China.

People like the zerohedge crowd have been 'predicting' the EU's demise for years. And now the Russians are openly joining in. Feeling threatened much? Sounds bullish.
179  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: December 11, 2014, 11:49:03 PM

Read a few months back that Russia wouldn't be doing too well if crude oil went below $80 and look at the price now Shocked time for Putin to surrender. Exit Ukraine and call all the Kremlin trolls back to base in fantasy land.

Nah. Fuck Poontang and his Gazprom Mafia, and their "unpaid" supporters. Their entire country relies on fuel exports, which they extract for free, to pay for their entire arrogant system. It's quite sad. Their elites will probably be OK, while millions of poor Russians starve again. They blame the EU and the US for everything anyway, so what difference does it make if OPEC twists the knife with a price war?

Bring on $40 oil. Or how about $20?

Unless Russian oil and gas somehow runs out, their culture has an Arabic future. Putin is a failure for being unable to maintain Russia's cultural roots outside of fighting stupid wars. Science? Technology? Music and the Arts? Forget it. Why bother doing anything yourself when you can just BUY IT WITH GAS?
180  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Lockheed says makes breakthrough on fusion energy project on: December 11, 2014, 09:59:53 PM
Saw this reported in SciAm, but not even with basic information as to how they are doing fusion. The only viable method in prototype is via concentrated laser heating and magnetic confinement, something with a far larger setup than they describe. Hope this isn't another "cold fusion" debacle.

Cold fusion is a very promising idea, but anyone making claims of having gotten it working should be peer reviewed with extreme scrutiny.

How does this "extreme scrutiny" work compared to the "normal scrutiny" that scientists apply elsewhere? Is it some kind of emotion? Wink

LENR is a fact, but the phenomenon is also an order of magnitude more difficult to study than mere radio-activity or fission.

www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEanexplanat.pdf

This article criticises some of the bad science done in recent years, but it also takes a practical approach with a process of elimination and provides some testable ideas.
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