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161  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2014, 08:56:56 PM
So just before all this excitement started i sent a request to stamp support to ask about which bank account to use as I have GBP and EUR

"You can deposit funds from or withdraw to any bank account held in your name.
Which account your chose to deposit from is completely up to you and we can not offer any advice on the subject.
Should you require any additional assistance, please feel free to contact us."

so you can't offer any advice but i should feel see to contact you to seek it? erm  Huh well ok i know what he was getting at, but not very good answer...

what i was really wanting to know was it there any difference in speed and cost between a GBP or EUR based account with BitStamp.

Does anybody have any experience?



Use your EUR account. UK banks take the piss with their SEPA fees.
162  Economy / Speculation / Re: SEEMS LIKE LARGE BTC HOLDERS TRYING TO KEEP PRICE AROUND $800 on: February 06, 2014, 03:39:38 PM
BTC quickly losing popularity.


MtGox quickly losing popularity.
163  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 05, 2014, 01:54:44 AM
Pray for a takeover
What would that mean?  

If an exchange's outstanding obligations (the sum of its client's account balances, plus pending bills etc.) are more than its assets (furniture, cash in bank, and coins in wallet), why would anyone want to buy it?


Tens of thousands of verified customers ready to trade
164  Economy / Speculation / Re: Thoughts on the 4 Bankers commiting suicide and a reddit comment regarding Feb? on: February 04, 2014, 03:42:03 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/farright/comments/1wwn77/pulling_together_some_posts_from_the_pol_thread/

I work as a stock broker for Piper Jaffray located in Los Angeles. What happened yesterday left me absolutely stunned in disbelief.
I manage the portfolios for more than half of our richest clients and my boss called me into his office and told me to cash them all out immediately. My obvious thought was that there was going to be a crash but it was strange that he was so adamant about cashing them out. He clearly knew something so I asked him what was up. He spilled the beans and said look, we are going into a currency crisis. Major banks are going to default in the next 3 weeks. The stock markets are going to go in a violent downward trend not only here but all around the world. The currencies of the world are going to move in every direction and there's no predicting which ones will still be standing after this is all over. It will spill into the bond markets here and it will be interesting to see what the fed will do. He warned whatever the fed did it was not going to help and not solve any problem. When I asked who told him this. My boss said he talked to a buddy of his who happens to be an executive in JP Morgan. I asked what triggers it and he said the Chinese trust default is going to cause a domino effect which will spill into every market and every currency in the world. He also said this coming week from the 27th to the 31st will have volatile trading and that this collapse is imminent within the next 3 weeks.
I am dumping all my stocks and bonds but the problem is holding dollars is not a safe haven as well. I'm in the process of putting my dollars in precious metals, property, Swiss francs, Vietnamese Dong, Nigerian Naira, Russian Ruble, and Mexican Pesos. Why not Yuan? It's not safe at all, they are dependent on the consumerism of other nations. Why buy currency of third world countries? They don't have much industry to be affected. They have more of an agricultural and energy based economy.
If anyone has questions please ask, especially if it is advice on what to do with your assets.

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If this is true (which is already happening stocks are crashing atm and 4 banksters and counting are dying (suicide or murder?) all within a week) then this might be a volatile month for bitcoin as well, definitely feb-april before summer imo

The Chinese investment trust didn't default. It was restructured and the investors only lost their interest payments. I wouldn't be confident about the Ruble being a good hedge  Roll Eyes
165  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stock Markets are tanking and its affect on Bitcoin on: February 03, 2014, 09:55:33 PM
Breaking news today all over tv is the stock market bubble bursting:
http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/03/investing/stocks-markets/index.html

On top of that i personally think we will see housing crashes in some markets that have never corrected (e.g Australia and many Asian markets)

With investment options running out for investors, i strongly believe we will see an influx of loaded investors, traders and funds into Bitcoin. Not immediately though, the process will take sometime as the "legal" air is still not clear.

Fingers crossed the London housing market plunges through the floor  Smiley

I could be mistaken, but didn't the UK housing market correct massively in 2008 ?

The UK market is mixed. Some places have seen big corrections but London and the surrounding south east area is mental considering wages have gone down in real terms over the last few years.

Take a look at this beauty. If you land your dream job as big shot city lawyer earning £80,000 per year you could just about afford a 3x salary mortgage  Cheesy

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-41981755.html
166  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is mining legal in US on: February 03, 2014, 09:39:39 PM
Miners in the US don't require any sort of licence.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/31/5364406/bitcoin-miners-investors-not-regulated-fincen-ruling

You pay tax when you convert the mined bitcoins into dollars. If you convert your coins as soon as you mine them you pay income tax on the profits. If you keep the bitcoins for a while before converting them you pay capital gains taxes.

Not true. You need to pay tax at the time the coins are mined.

The IRS hasn't said anything definite but that is most likely the way that it will be treated.

How can you claim something isn't true and then use the phrases "hasn't said anything definite" and "most likely" in the next sentence.

The IRS hasn't given guidance but the tax treatment I've described is how people have been paying Bitcoin related taxes for the last two years.
167  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stock Markets are tanking and its affect on Bitcoin on: February 03, 2014, 09:16:47 PM
Breaking news today all over tv is the stock market bubble bursting:
http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/03/investing/stocks-markets/index.html

On top of that i personally think we will see housing crashes in some markets that have never corrected (e.g Australia and many Asian markets)

With investment options running out for investors, i strongly believe we will see an influx of loaded investors, traders and funds into Bitcoin. Not immediately though, the process will take sometime as the "legal" air is still not clear.

Fingers crossed the London housing market plunges through the floor  Smiley
168  Economy / Speculation / Re: Safe Currency on: February 03, 2014, 08:49:22 PM
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/02/03/uk-europe-banks-emergingmarkets-idUKBREA121AP20140203

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European banks have $3 trillion of exposure to emerging markets

(Reuters) - European banks have loaned in excess of $3 trillion (1.83 trillion pounds) to emerging markets, more than four times U.S. lenders and putting them at greater risk if financial market turmoil in countries such as Turkey, Brazil, India and South Africa intensifies.

The risk is most acute for six European banks - BBVA, Erste Bank, HSBC, Santander, Standard Chartered, and UniCredit - according to analysts.


But the exposure could be a headache for the industry as a whole, just as it faces a rigorous health-check by the European Central Bank, aiming to expose weak points and restore investor confidence in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis.

"We think EM (emerging markets) shocks are a real concern for 2014," said Matt Spick, analyst at Deutsche Bank. "When currency (volatility) combines with revenue slowdowns and rising bad debts, we see compounding threats to the exposed banks."

The Deutsche Bank analysts said the six most exposed European banks - which they did not name - had more than $1.7 trillion of exposure to developing markets.

In recent weeks, emerging market currencies have come under fire as China's growth slows and the U.S. Federal Reserve winds down its stimulus programme, with investors selling developing market assets in anticipation of higher U.S. interest rates.

In a bid to protect currencies, interest rates have been hiked in Turkey and elsewhere, but investors remain nervy, especially around the so-called "Fragile Five" economies of Turkey, Brazil, India, Indonesia and South Africa.

An emerging markets crisis could hit banks in a variety of ways - a collapse in local currency can hurt reported earnings or capital held in the country; loan losses can jump as interest rates rise; or income from capital markets activity or private banking can fall.

European banks' exposure varies from country to country. BBVA (BBVA.MC) and UniCredit (CRDI.MI) have big exposure to Turkey, Santander (SAN.MC) is most exposed to Brazil, while Standard Chartered (STAN.L) and HSBC (HSBA.L) would be hurt by problems in India and Indonesia. Barclays (BARC.L), meantime, would be most exposed to South African problems, analysts said.

However, they said the impact of apparently individual problems, such as inflation in Venezuela or lower growth in India, could quickly spread into wider concern among investors, and had already contributed to a 7 percent drop by Europe's bank index .SX7P in the last two weeks.

The biggest risk is that a jump in interest rates sparks defaults on loans, analysts added. Often a credit shock follows or replaces a currency shock, as happened in Argentina in 1999-2002.

EXPOSURE

Europe's banks have cut their overseas loans since the financial crisis and substantially increased the amount of capital they hold, meaning they have a better cushion to absorb losses than in the past.

But they still have about 12 percent of their assets in emerging markets, and about a quarter of their earnings come from the region as often the businesses there are "unusually profitable", Deutsche Bank's Spick said.

European banks had $3.4 trillion of loans to developing countries at the end of September, according to data from the Bank for International Settlements.

British banks had a $518 billion exposure to the Asia-Pacific region, Spanish banks had $475 billion of loans to Latin America, and banks in France and Italy each had $200 billion of exposure to developing economies in Europe.

Among the most exposed banks, Standard Chartered makes more than 90 percent of its earnings from Asia, Africa and the Middle East, and warned in December that its 10-year record of earnings growth would likely end.

BBVA had 41 billion euros ($55 billion) of exposure to Mexico - which last year made up 80 percent of group profits - and 52 billion euros of loans to South America.

Santander had 132 billion euros of loans to Latin America at the end of last year, half of which were in Brazil. Brazil contributed 23 percent of group earnings last year, and the rest of Latin American contributed another 24 percent.


Analysts said emerging market turmoil could also have a broader, indirect impact on revenues in investment banking and wealth management.

"A significant increase in volatility in EM bonds and FX may result in volumes drying up and hence a potential for a material slowdown in EM fixed income revenues," said JPMorgan analyst Kian Abouhossein.

He estimated the investment banks of HSBC and Standard Chartered each generated $2.1-2.2 billion from emerging markets, while Credit Suisse (CSGN.VX) and Deutsche Bank (DBKGn.DE) made about $1.1 billion each.

Euro banks will have more capital black holes to fill if emerging markets keep tanking. EU tax payers should be ready to give their banks another helping hand.
169  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 03, 2014, 07:50:40 PM

Then why hasn't Putin sniffed them out and fed them to a pack of wild wolves. Due process isn't a thing over there.
170  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 03, 2014, 07:45:33 PM
Bulgaria. Bulgaria. Bulgaria.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTC-E

Bulgaria. Bulgaria. Bulgaria.




Solid source lol

So you're saying they're based in Russia?
171  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 03, 2014, 07:25:31 PM
Russia must be dangerously close to a currency crisis. Does the Russian central bank publish how much foreign reserves they hold?
172  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 03, 2014, 07:22:15 PM

Yeah man it's game over. Putin is going to invade a sovereign EU and NATO member state to shut down BTC-e and enforce Russian law because Russian law is the only law.

Tanks rolling through the streets of Sofia as they zero in on the building hosting BTC-e servers is going to be box office gold.
173  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is mining legal in US on: February 03, 2014, 05:13:48 PM
So say Kraken exchange, if you exchange your btc for $ on Kraken, you are done and you don't need to submit any tax or anything?

If you exchanged enough for it to be taxable then you must include that on your tax return.
174  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is mining legal in US on: February 03, 2014, 04:47:58 PM
Miners in the US don't require any sort of licence.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/31/5364406/bitcoin-miners-investors-not-regulated-fincen-ruling

You pay tax when you convert the mined bitcoins into dollars. If you convert your coins as soon as you mine them you pay income tax on the profits. If you keep the bitcoins for a while before converting them you pay capital gains taxes.
175  Economy / Speculation / Re: Safe Currency on: February 03, 2014, 04:44:36 PM
Don't forget Turkey, Thailand, Argentina, South Africa, Russia, China.................
176  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 03, 2014, 12:08:12 AM
Wow.  Such crash.  Doge hurtin' today.

All cryptocoins are brothers in fate, if one fails the others will suffer too.

Pure bitcoiners may rejoice in the demise of a competitor, but people out there will wonder: if Dogecoin crashed without warning or reason, why wouldn't Bitcoin too?


there was very good reason for the doge crash

Thanks, I suppose you mean this:

http://www.businessinsider.com/dogecoin-crashed-this-weekend-2013-12

So its price crashed because its popularity soared. That may be good news for Bitcoin indeed.



It's only dawning on the Dogecoiners now that 10,000 coin block rewards in perpetuity might not be enough to secure their blockchain if the price doesn't increase 50x in the next year.
177  Economy / Speculation / Re: Large DROP in BTC PRICE can be caused by acceptance Amazon.com or other .com? on: February 03, 2014, 12:02:31 AM
Does it really matter? Overstock just sends Bitcoins to Coinbase and converts them to dollars at the price Coinbase posts for that 10 minute period, then ships merchandise. You can do that yourself; send Bitcoins to Coinbase, get dollars, and buy anywhere.

Someone could create a service which let you spend Bitcoins on other sites by front-ending their checkout pages and doing the conversion for you. The problem is that, given the sleazyness of the Bitcoin world, such a site would probably steal the Bitcoins, the account information, or the merchandise.

Nagle, I followed your Bitcoin price predictions back in the day and I'm puzzled as to why a bitcoin isn't worth minus $10,000 now. Do you still see the Bitcoin price heading into negative territory in the future  Cheesy
178  Economy / Economics / Re: Should bitcoin be backed by something like bullion? on: January 31, 2014, 07:16:10 PM
E-Gold already tried that and it ended in tears  Cry
179  Economy / Economics / Re: 2014-01-31 Greece is Back: Germany, France, Creditors Hold Secret Meeting Due To on: January 31, 2014, 07:12:11 PM
Lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala Please stop posting this trollish FUD against the mighty euro. Everything is fine in Euroland. Government debts are totally sustainable and the banking sector is well capitalised lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalal alalalala

180  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2014, 07:01:12 PM
Get your tinfoil hats on! Whomever is manipulating the price to keep it in this narrow range is going to run out of bitcoins eventually ;-)

I hear bitcoin days destroyed is goin crazy so maybe it's some of the early adopters at work... trying to keep the financial apocalypse at bay for just a little while longer...  Grin Grin Grin

Looks normal to me, perhaps even a bit low: https://blockchain.info/charts/bitcoin-days-destroyed

It does feel like the price is being stabilized through some active effort.  But, if that's the case, are they running out of bitcoins or dollars?

Hmm, that's an interesting idea: run a "market stabilizer bot" for a month (with really deep pockets).  Eventually you'll either have too many bitcoins or too many USDs.  You now know the direction the market wants to move before every one else.  I wonder (but doubt) if such a scheme could be profitable....

what does "bitcoin days destroyed" mean exactly???


If an address with 1 BTC which hasn't moved for 100 days is spent today then "100 Bitcoin days" have been destroyed or if 0.5 BTC hasn't been spent for 1000 days and it's spent today then "500 Bitcoin days" have been destroyed. You sum up all the days destroyed to get a total and people try to draw inferences from the number.
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