At this rate greyhawk will end up an NPC in the game.

You can request whatever to your heart's content. Makes about the same difference.


It's not my blog, it's MPs blog. I mean okay, I get it, you're new, as far as you're concerned all the names on the screen are equal and the same, names on the screen, composing a really flat reality. This however is not a fact, just an artifact reflecting your candor.


You're not required to guess what's in my head (I don't even have any magic powers in this project) or anyone else's for that matter. You are required to come up with something, from your own head. I mean okay, I get it, it's rare for this to happen irl, but that rare doesn't mean never. It's happening right now.


Sooo I say payout has no relation, and bring as proof an actual instance where less work with generous payout (March BTC ~= 2.5 June BTC) failed to go anywhere. Your answer to this is that...wait. Did you even logically consider what's going on here? Not really, huh.

Stop focusing on management details, such as what the payout is and how MP structures things. It's obviously not your strong point. You say you're an artist, do that then, do it well, complain if you're mistreated and after you're mistreated rather than before on the grounds that you might be.

Now that I call fair.


I feel like all the clueless/idiotic people gravitating around Bitcoin are really the same one person somehow amplified by mirrorwork, and it just keeps repeating the same stupid nonsense. Suddenly the Hercules and Hydra parable becomes very very meaningful to me.

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Dude the fuck's wrong with the nubbin. Fiddy seconds, seriously?

Ritalin. Urgently. Lots of it.


Does that thing look particularly phallic or is it me?


S.MG is sitting on 8`799.0657479 BTCi after its succesfull IPO last week.

For that matter, the "community", such as it is, consists principally of people who would love nothing more and spend their time doing nothing else than upmanshipping MP. If indeed you contribute usable artwork and nothing comes of it because the project goes to shit you'll be the only guy in this position in the history of Bitcoin. This is what Taaki, Maxwell, the entire host of "finance" wanna-bes and literally everyone else has been trying to do, since forever. This is why CoinSetter is currently buying tweets, this is what CoinLab was trying to achieve paying off some of the press, that's what Pietila was trying with his rushed conference, that's what the London folk were trying with their second "First Bitcoin Conference", that's the long and the short of it: everyone hopes, strives and dreams of the situation where they could say "Ha, I'm bigger than MP". That blessed situation where you did your end and MP came short, to go with the billion times the opposite occured.

So, your dilemma is this: either you get paid and the game works or else you'd have succeeded at the one thing everyone really seeks, and that'd make you a sort of Satoshi-2. It'd be worth more than your wallet, you can probably support yourself consulting for the rest of your life.


S.MG is sitting on 8`799.0657479 BTCi after its succesfull IPO last week.


By all means, go do that then.


Understand, I don't care what you are. Ideally you care what you are, but if you don't that's also fine, don't expect me to parent you. I'm not your mommy, and you can't blackmail me with "I'll fuck up my future because this pays $150 now".


Chance? No chance. Why chance?


Yeah, I've been sayin'....


No. The "artist's" airs are worth nothing at all, so MP is offering something symbolic, a token if you wish. To be perfectly clear, in case any doubt lingers: until and unless you've submitted art you are not an artist. Irrespective of what you might have heard, from parents/girlfriend/that guy you're paying for the purpose, you are not an artist until and unless you deliver.



Apparently your reading is VERY selective. That's not how reading works. And since I'm doing this retarded "let me pick up the bits you've neglected because they don't serve the idiocy you wish to proceed from",



You're not that cool yet. In order for you to be that cool you have to first be an artist. You're not an artist, not yet. Are you gonna be one or are you gonna just go the way of that other failure (ie, moltenmich)?

Pick one already.


Once we've established the artist part, I'm sure payment can be arranged in a satisfactory manner. That an artist who doesn't normally take BTC will receive a 1.337 token on top of that to keep in his wallet seems to have little bearing.


That's fine and dandy, but if both you and management feel better being contacted personally and simply wait for the other party to do so nothing's gonna happen.

We're still discussing making art. There is no discussion of making "the game", nor can there be. So, you wish to contribute anything here, go learn how to draw.

Tho' honestly I'd personally prefer you continue with the posturing; on one hand I've grown to like pissing all over forum retards and on the other since the tortilla goon is gone there's almost a shortage of game.


That's good then, in spite of it somehow having what seems like little effect. Consider what you missed out on (as an example):




Also, to make it perfectly clear: once we're done with the forum dickery and are actually submitting stuff which actually meets the spec we're expected to actually meet the spec. That includes posting a link THERE and including a Bitcoin address. Specifically and underliningly if you post your art here and somebody else takes it and posts it there MP will likely just shrug and pay them rather than you.

Read the thread. All your misstated concerns are already addressed therein.

For bonus brownie points, also read the article referenced in the OP, including the respective comments.

Then maybe you have something to say. Currently you do not.

Problem number A, subproblem A1: The forum full of 14 year olds and currency speculators pompously refers to itself as "the community".

Problem number A, subproblem A2: The forum full of 14 year olds and currency speculators (aged 16 and a half) pompously discusses its important contributions to "infrastructure" in terms of, "we are doing a lot of retarded posting and getting more retards to do the same, therefore we matter".

Let's reflect together on the fact that the aggregate contribution of the entire "devteam" over the course of years and including what, up to one hundred idiots has yet to count as a visible fraction of a percent of Satoshi's original creation, which took him a week. Nevertheless these worthless idiots presume to speak as if they're not only vaguely related to but actually representative of Bitcoin. This is scandalous.


Problem number 2, subproblem 2a. You have no fucking idea what the words mean. This is because you yourself are one of those 14 year olds you talk down to. The word job denotes generally "a piece of work, especially a specific task". Your printer has a job queue, for instance. That you'd take some particular meaning and run with it on the strength of your inner conviction - context be damned - simply belies deficient literacy in your case.

Problem number 2, subproblem 2b. You have no fucking idea what's going on around you. The thread is what the thread is, not what the idiots interacting with it do. Similarly, a bank loan is what the fine print says, not what the idiots running third mortgages on their houses do. While the tendency of 14 year olds to just follow the crowd is strong with you, that still doesn't change much.

Now pack your great ideas and go. They're not ideas and most importantly they're not yours. It's just shit you've overheard, probably from S.MG people themselves, and misunderstood, because your brain doesn't work properly.


This is true. This also is how we know you're an idiot: instead of learning it you're talking about how it could be learned, preferably by someone else. Not useful. Go learn it, come back next year or w/e.


So it's a case of cut the tit to fit the title, we could say.

Did you crop my bosom?


Did you read the stuff you quoted? I ask because the answer to your question is contained therein.

You know wheat doesn't look like that.


Nope, actually not at all. See


None of this crap is a contribution, or useful, or welcome. We don't need ideas, we don't want ideas. We have plenty of ideas, and I can assure you nobody over at S.MG even reads or ever will read any of this crap, outside of me, and my orders are to just discard it whole.

The job is to draw not to run the mouth. Stick to it.

Lol.

Well it's cheaper and easier. This is what Americans want, right? Cheap and easy? And everyone else wants to be American anyway, right?

So no problem.

This "X sucks therefore Y" nonsense....

Now where have I heard that before.

Trevor, is this you baby?

So if you are waiting on one since last week while Bugpowder reported no delay ALSO last week it'd seem the FUD isn't really FUD after all.

Why are you surprised? The "Bitcoin Foundation" is not significantly different. The Litecoin one just put a little less effort into window dressing (which is reasonable, the LTC just doesn't have the resources).

The hell happened to half the posts in this thread! Now everyone left is looking like idiots. 

Ok but what are the yellow sperms in the actual center?

It's not my idea (and if you ask me it's not the best idea, either). But to quote Mr. Knowitall,



There's the sticky point of the issue. Consider this bit (part of an earlier dispute with the Something Awful crowd):


So I suppose the question before us (ie, "the community") is quite plainly "can you people do anything useful, other than writing [very very bad] code, showing off your tits and shoving things up your butts".

Tie this in with an earlier dispute, on this very forum, about the importance of "infrastructure".


So, community of people ready to do what? Ready to sit around and opine on things [they don't understand, have never done successfully etc]? Ready to ask for scammer tags? Ready to create one of them "securities" based on "maff and stuff" and their "life experience" (aged 20ish)? Ready to do something useful? Actually able to do something useful?

Indeed, it's the harder road, taking a large clean mirror and forcing this community of nobody in particular to gaze into it. The gift of washing is never appreciated by the herd of cats, and perhaps it's not a rational use of resources - especially not in an "everyone for himself" sort of environment, which obviously means "absent community". But then again you know this about MP, he's never taken the easier road when the right one was at all available, and he's never taken the "rational" road to nowhere either. As the old saying goes, "millions for defense but not a penny in bribes". Exceptionally enough he actually has the millions, too.


I trust you've read the first comment on the article, where this point is at length discussed.


I trust you've read all about the IPO which collected something like 9000 Bitcoin. That IS a lot.


That may be, but this isn't that.


The problem with your opinion isn't that it's yours, is that it's not particularly related to the subject at hand, especially if you've not actually read the stuff mentioned above.

Hey, is that from some old Atari game? Seems familiar.

Why oh why didn't I see that one coming.

Let's do it like this: now that the "there is money" point has been proven, people get busy on proving the other two points left ("there is talent" and "can follow instructions"). Trifecta!


By this reasoning "no coder worth the money is ever going to make an extremely detailed project on the hopes of winning". Except they do. That's what the better coders do, and whenever some coder wants to be hired on a salary the first point in anyone's mind is "so he doesn't think he's good enough to start-up".

Really, it's 2013, time to split the artists from the wanna-bes.


In case he hasn't figured it out yet, anyone can be a dog on the internet, complete with a portfolio of art "they" made. People who actually hire know this, people who never get hired apparently have no idea.


Does it sink in slower than obsidian in honey? Definitely.