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1621  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: November 18, 2014, 07:14:50 PM
It's a year since the preliminary phase of the coup d'etat in Ukraine, commonly known as EuroMaidan, started. Paid for by the then Minister of Finance in Yanukovich's government and, according to Nuland, the USA's "man in Ukraine"- Proroshenko, it was a personal success for him. The president was displaced, long live the new president.

Nuland's cookies brought also a predominant success to the USA, except for one of their primary objectives of turning Crimea into a NATO base (I wonder why the yanks thought that Crimeans would surrender to Nazi-Ukriane/USA, when in 1940s they didn't surrender to Nazi Germany and in 1850s they didn't surrender to British/French invaders).

But USA had success in their other primary objective of destabilizing a country on the Russian border and starting a civil war, which has already killed hundreds of Russians living in Donbass and Ukrainian conscripts. The secondary objectives of driving an economical and political wedge between Russia and Europe, as well as an energy wedge between the Northern and the Southern Europe (by making them block the South Stream) were also achived.

On the negative for the USA side, they unwittingly proverbially kicked Russia in the butt, making it seek new markets and start to revive its own industry and agriculture.
1622  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile on: November 18, 2014, 06:58:59 PM
Russia again calls for USA to release their satellite imagery from that day, and for Kiev to release the seized ATC communication recordings. The very fact that Kiev holds those recordings secret speaks volumes, and is the most damning evidence of Kiev's and/or Washington's involvement. If the records didn't hold any compromising information or compromised Russia, they would have not been touched as is the normal procedure in the crash investigations.

In the meantime, the retrieval of the Boeing pieces continues well.

I have to remind that such calculations would be correct only for naked eye. And incorrect if long-focus lenses are used, for example. So this literally doesn't prove anything.

Yes, long-focus lens would "compress" the distance between the plane and the ground, making the ground to appear closer to the plane.
1623  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: November 18, 2014, 06:51:17 PM
Well, Kiev continues to push people of DNR and LNR even further away, not "just" by shelling them, but now also economically, by disconnecting the regions from the central population databases (so that the don't have access to information of who needs pensions) and from hrivna payouts. This actually plays well into the hand of the young republics. In a way, Kiev further acknowledges the independence of DNR and LNR.
1624  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: November 16, 2014, 08:20:18 PM
I don't think that the child, or its parents are laughing now. Which is applicable to several thousand other children and families put into such position.

By the way, the bigger problems of the world start from such "small" ones as taking a child against all thinkable legal and moral rules.

I don't hold any grudge against CPS, as I already stated before. It's the unfairness of the situation that drives me here.

As for the fact box, I didn't twist anything, saying that its the number of children touched by CPS.

And the legal aspect: to adopt a child from Russia to a foreign family, you need to jump through a lot of legal hoops, designed to protect the child from potential abuse. What right has Norwegian CPS to take/kidnap a foreign national child from foreign national parents and adopt it away, bypassing everything thinkable?

Apraksin, do you have kids? How would you feel if, based on an arbitrary call from someone who has a grudge against you, your child is taken away and you never see it. I don't have kids yet, but I don't want to end up in such a situation.

And I am not blowing it out of proportion - I am just following a case as it evolves. It's not my fault that you cannot read about such cases in Norwegian press and that parents are told not to contact the media under the treat of never seeing their children again.
1625  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: November 16, 2014, 07:46:34 PM
Another child was killed yesterday as the result of artillery shelling of residential areas of the town of Gorlovka by Ukrainian state-backed terrorist forces.

It turned out that 2 children were killed, together with their parents (a whole family), when a shell hit a multi-storey building. In all 6 people were killed and 2 severely wounded.

It is interesting to note that should a million-sized city of Western Europe, say Köln, get shelled for several months, specifically targeting its residential areas, it would raise a few eyebrows. However, shelling of a similar Easter-European city seems to be a complete normalcy..



Russia is ready to dispatch the 7th humanitarian aid column of trucks. Russia is now the only lifeline of DNR and LNR, especially since Ukraine, in addition to the military blockade and scorched earth devastation, started an economical and humanitarian blockade of the region.

1626  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile on: November 16, 2014, 07:44:04 PM
Just made some calculations:

http://s020.radikal.ru/i703/1411/b2/ccb57acbac43.jpg

The only possibility to make a real photo like this is to place camera 172 meters above the plane.

I was waiting for someone to make these calculations  Grin



Donetsk republic, Dutch experts and OCSE agreed on the procedure to transport wreckage parts (bigger parts will be cut into portions) to Holland for inspection and reconstruction. Donetsk Republic will be providing trucks and cranes. Let's just hope that Ukraine will not be providing artillery fire such as their customary want.
1627  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: November 15, 2014, 03:45:13 PM
In Norway it's basically a taboo to speak of such affairs, on the grounds of "protecting the children". Parents are warned not to talk to the press or else...

An interesting article in Aftenposten from the 3rd November this year:
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/Syv-private-aktorer-har-tjent-550-millioner-pa-barnevern-7769555.html

7 private actors have earned 550 million NOK on Barnevern, which is a privately owned organisation. Yes, it's big business.
In the facts box: During 2012 53198 kids were touched by Barnevern one way or another.
1628  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: November 15, 2014, 03:39:23 PM
Another child was killed yesterday as the result of artillery shelling of residential areas of the town of Gorlovka by Ukrainian state-backed terrorist forces.
1629  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine rejects Russia Gazprom gas price hike on: November 14, 2014, 09:57:02 PM
It's not just gas, it's also coal that Ukraine has problems with. The energy minister Prodan (funnily his name translates as "Sold") first told Poles that Ukraine can get Polish coal for free as a "sign of unity against Russian aggression". Poles got disgusted. Then they turned to South Africa, ordering 1 million tonnes. But not is clean, and Ukrainian Investigative Committee opened a corruption case against Prodan. Only half of the South African coal will be probably delivered as Ukraine does not pay. They Kiev said that they'll buy from Donetsk (Donetsk republic said that they'll not sell while Kiev continues massacring civilians) and from Russia (but it turned out it's not politically correct, so they probably not be buying anyway and will freeze just to spite Russia).

Previously Ukraine took its coal from Donetsk (while only 5% of revenue was returned to the region), but now Kiev shelled all the mines and distanced the region by murdering its people and declaring them non-citizens.
1630  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile on: November 14, 2014, 09:48:08 PM
Russian propaganda is great at tricking Russians. The rest of the world just laughs at it.

Is that why Dutch journalist working in Donesk republic wonders why Dutch investigators still have not fully investigated the crash site, while the German pilots talk about air-to-air shoot-down?
1631  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: November 14, 2014, 09:45:32 PM
"Slavyansk" is the correct name btw...

Ukrainians have a tenancy to Westernise geographic names to make them sound "true Ukrainian". This is not uncommon: the countries Slovenia and Slovakia has undergone the same vocal change.

The way Slavjansk is written denotes your allegiance. People who lived in Slavjansk and the remainder of the Eastern population spell it like this. (West) Ukrainians spelled is Slovjansk.



Russia prepares a fifth humanitarian convoy to Lugansk and Donestk republics. The humanitarian situation there is critical.
1632  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: November 14, 2014, 09:34:52 PM
Here is a translation of
http://ria.ru/world/20141114/1033320657.html

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MOSCOW, November 14 - RIA Novosti. The Commissioner for Children's Rights under the President of the Russian Federation Pavel Astakhov transferred to Russia's Investigative Committee information on all cases of withdrawal of Russian children in Norway and Finland - 55 children in Norway and 74 children in Finland were taken from their families over the last three years.

The situation with the withdrawal of Russian children in Norway was discussed on Friday at a closed meeting in the Foreign Ministry, with the participation of the authorized representatives and the Investigative Committee of Russia.

"Today I passed the information on all the known cases and discussed in the Ombudsman's Office the withdrawal of Russian children in Norway. To date, 55 of these children were withdrawn over a period of about 2.5 years, 32 families were affected by the actions of child protection services in Norway," - Astakhov told reporters after the meeting.

He stressed that in the RF IC now checks the materials associated with the withdrawal of Russian children by child protection services in Norway.

"74 children from 48 Russian families were removed in Finland over 3 years. Such a list was handed over today to Investigative Committee as well" - added the Commissioner for Children's Rights, noting that at least with Finland there formed a relationship of some cooperation in this matter in recent times.

According to him, the Russian Foreign Ministry confirmed that all these cases are known, all addressed to the Consulate of the Russian Federation in Norway and Finland, but in most cases the situation is still not resolved positively.

"We believe that after questioning of all the victims in these cases by the Investigation Committee a legal decision must be reached, giving the right qualifications - whether it is international child abduction, false imprisonment of children or it will be a question of illegal adoption and excess of mandate by the CPS - the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation will give an answer. However, we  believe that a criminal case on the basis of the overall situation, should be instituted, "- said Astakhov.

He explained that Norwegian Child Protection Service, as well as the Norwegian Foreign Ministry, refuse to fully meet the needs of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Foreign Ministry, refuse to cooperate on specific cases. Moreover, the  consular convention is interpreted differently. It says that the Russian consulate in cases when it comes to children in need of care, has the right to propose trustees and guardians.

"This provision is violated, because the Norwegian party does not believe that we are not talking about custody, guardianship because under Norwegian law is perceived solely as a disposal of the property of a minor," - said Astakhov. However, in Norway there is a law on the protection of children's rights, which says that if a child is deprived of custody, the first who may be candidates for guardianship are the close relatives, he added.

"There is never, in any of the case, been offered guardianship from next of kin, and foster family was always chosen, specifically Norwegian foster families," - said the commissioner.

There's been a recent increase in the number of cases of withdrawal of children from Russian families in foreign countries, particularly in Norway. Astakhov reported that withdrawal is not only from families who live permanently in Norway, but when the Russians travel to study, work, or come to this country just as tourists.

Note, that I highlight this crisis mostly from a Russian viewpoint. However, the number of "Russian" cases is very small (as the number of Russians living in Norway is small), about 0.05% of all the abduction cases. But Russia has finally decided to do something about it, at last. The main victims are still the Norwegian families themselves.

BitMos, I don't think Russia will play a bad cop, it will play by the rules, otherwise what's the point in having rules? As for America - it does not need to take over Norway, if I understood your sentiment correctly. Norway is already the last state of the USA. US President speeches get more news time here than the speeches of local or European politicians. You almost never see European films on TV and never hear European music on the radio - both are predominately American. English is de-facto second mother tongue. And the Norwegian culture is mostly remembered only on the 17th of May.



Urgent update about the 5-year old Oskar. His parents were informed by a letter from Barnevernet that the child got transferred (read: sold) to an undisclosed foster family and that any future contact between the child and his parents is prohibited.
1633  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: November 14, 2014, 07:16:41 PM
Astahov classified the situation in Norway as "juvenile terror", drawing the attention of the international human rights organisations to it, and said that Russian continues to fight it:
http://www.ng.ru/news/485190.html

A big article about the situation. According to Astahov, 55 Russian kids from 32 families were taken in Norway (and 74 kids in Finland) over the course of the last 2.5 years:
http://ria.ru/world/20141114/1033320657.html
(I'll write a translation of this article later)

New details about the mother and her 10-year old girl, who fled to Russia yesterday. They were under observation by Barnevernet for 4 months, based on an anonymous call, and the girl could have been taken from the family at any moment:
http://ria.ru/society/20141114/1033309090.html
1634  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: November 13, 2014, 10:58:52 PM
Russian citizen had to flee Norway after her 10-year old daughter got called in to questioning by CPS "Barnevernet":
http://www.vladtime.ru/obsh/408200-rossiyanka-s-rebenkom-sbezhala-iz-norvegii-spasayas-ot-socsluzhb.html
Luckily her daughter was let go home until some documents were found. Scared mother flew with the first flight to Russia, while the father remains in Norway. The family has been working in the country for 7 years. The mother is a teacher, the father is a doctor. The girl was under Barnevernet's hidden surveillance for the last 4 months.
1635  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What good things has Obama had since he is elected ? on: November 13, 2014, 10:48:19 PM
To drag this topic back up. Smiley

I think Obama should get thanks from all progressive Russians who would like to see Russia as a stronger and more independent state. Obama has done more towards that goal than many Russian politicians.

Putin should really present Obama with a medal "For the services towards Russia", or maybe created additional medals "For promotion of Russia's statehood" and "For promotion of Russia's economic and industrial independence"



Thank you, Obama, for kicking Russia in the butt and waking it from a political and economical reverie, and for expanding Russia's economic ties by the means of the sanctions that primarily hit EU.
1636  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: November 13, 2014, 10:37:53 PM
BitMos, it's not about Kremlin lies, but about the way Russia historically treats international agreements and laws - with respect and often to its own detriment. It's been like this a hundred years ago as well, when Russia got pulled into WWI to its own detriment, only because it had to abide by the agreements.

Many in the Russian government and parliament know this and try to counteract. Russia ratified too many detrimental international agreements during Yeltsin's reign on the belief that now that the Cold War is over and that the "world community" with USA at the lead has Russia's best interests at heart and are Russia's best friends. Russia must abide by the agreements to keep its honour before the "international community". This euphoria has passed now, and pragmatism finally seems to be taking hold. Russia now asks the "international community" to abide by this same laws and suddenly draws ire.

But this is a digression.

Back to the topic. In the article in Aftenposten, the author mentions a case when a child was provably mistreated in a foster family, yet Barnevernet didn't take the child and didn't return it to the biological parents. The author is at a loss, why Barnevernet seems to think that only biological parents can harm a child, while foster parents can do no harm.

If we look at it from a business angle, it becomes clear. The child is purchased from Barnevernet by a foster family, who now owns it. Biological parents initially do not own a child - the state does. They are only means for a child to come to the world so that it later can be harvested.

A variation on an old meme comes to mind:

"Norwegian State: All your kids are belong to us."
1637  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile on: November 13, 2014, 10:20:34 PM
What has Australian Prime Minister been sniffing?
http://finance.rambler.ru/news/economics/153538713.html?utm_source=news&utm_content=finance&utm_medium=midcol&utm_campaign=cross_promo
He suggested to Putin that Russia should apologise and pay compensation to the relative of the victims of MH-17 shot down over Ukraine (most probably by NATO-backed Kiev airforce)
Well it was almost certainly russian backed troops that had shot down the plane, primarly evidenced by the fact that russian backed groups had boasted about shooting down a ukraine plane around the time that MH17 was shot down, plus the location of where the plane was flying at the time it was shot down

Oh, and of course the bullet holes from the high-explosive rounds used by fighter jets. And the total absence of Buk shrapnel balls in the bodies of the passengers (when Ukraine shot down a Russian passenger plane several years ago, using Buk, the bodies of the passengers were filled with such shrapnel, allowing the experts to determine the origins of the rocket).

In other words, the freedom fighters have nothing to do with this - been discussed before.

But I can say what The Aussie PM has been sniffing: the CIA script that probably got sent to some key figures prior to this false flag shoot-down, telling them what to say and how to react. As the plane was supposed to fall on Russian territory, all the anti-Russian lines uttered suddenly start making sense.
1638  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: November 13, 2014, 10:13:12 PM
Ukrainian terrorist forces have shelled Donetsk 5 times today. More residential areas and public buildings have been destroyed. WWII veterans say that they haven's seen this kind of carnage even during the Nazi Germany's occupation. Ukraine coup forces pull tank columns, more artillery (Grads and Uragans) and heavy forces to Donetsk in an obvious gambit to attack the republic.

One Russian news film crew came under artillery fire, luckily without casualties.
http://tass.ru/proisshestviya/1571131

Meanwhile, NATO cries wolf again. Last time it was US State Department's proxy governor of Ukraine, Poroshenko-Valtsman who cried wolf, saying right after his selection that Putin rides a tank column into Ukraine. Now NATO bypasses this puppet and cries wolf directly, but still with no proof, further discrediting themselves. Of course, it's only a USA's pretext to impose new sanctions against Europe, oh, sorry, by bad, I meant against Russia.

By the way, Poroshenko-VAltsman should be the first to come under the new lustration law (law permitting political repressions against peopele connected to the previous, legitimate, government of Yanukovich) that he passed - he was after all Yanukovich's Minister of Finances...

Oh, and the new Kiev Police Head is a Neo-Nazi, vice-commander of the terrorist death battalion "Azov", responsible for ethnic cleansing in East Ukraine,  V.Trojan. It should be noted that one other country did the same by promoting murderers into law enforcement in the 1933-34 - Nazi Germany:
http://www.rg.ru/2014/11/14/naci.html
1639  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: November 12, 2014, 10:10:38 PM
Today, north of Donetsk was subjected to the hardest artillery shelling compared to the last weeks. A lot of houses destroyed.
Not surprisingly, Donetsk Republic will not sell coal to Kiev terrorists.
1640  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: November 12, 2014, 08:38:06 PM
Child kidnapping in Norway has turned into big business: between 1 and 2.4 million NOK per year per child is transferred from the budget to CPS (Bernevernet), given the previous data that there were 8000 kidnappings over the last 2.5 years, it gives us 8.7 children per day. Let's average it and say 9 children * 2 million * 365 days = 6.57 billion NOK (970 million dollars) per year that get eaten from the state budget. Even with Norway's exceptionally hight prices, a child cannot use 2 million NOK per year, maybe 200,000 or less. Where does the rest of the money go? In addition prospective foster parents pay to Barnevernet to adopt...



A documentary on NTV
"Adoption has become big business: Norway abducts Russian kids."
http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1262356/rambler

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New tragedy with Russian children in Norway forced defenders seriously consider contacting the UN to understand why kidnapping permitted by law prospers in this country prospers.

Children are kidnapped in the streets, taken away from schools. And all this is supposed to protect the child from domestic violence. In fact, this is a lucrative business, and to take away a child, only one call to the service care is needed. Reporter from "Anatomy of the day" Valery Alekhine uncovered facts that should really be checked at the international level.

PS: Barnevernet appears to be owned by Aarden Capital London, a sub-division of Bank of America.



A desperate article from Aftenposten from 2009 (in Norwegian), highlighting several cases against Norwegian parents, and referencing Strasbourg court ruling that Norway/Barnevernet ignored, as well as a Norwegian court ruling that was ignored as well, and a child never returned.
The article is called "The state owns the children":
http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/kronikker/Staten-eier-barna-6612778.html
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