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16281  Other / Off-topic / Re: What do you do with your btc? on: May 21, 2015, 12:17:27 PM
People who sell it for quick cash obviously don't see the long term potential on what bitcoin has in store. If one day bitcoin turns up to be a total failure, then who cares if it did, because I'll be losing probably few hundreds compared to multiple times that I would have made if I continue to hold on and gamble on its future.

but don't forget that some of those people actually need those quick money, it's not like everyone who dump for quick bucks need it for drug sex and roch&roll, some need it for economic problem or something alike

personnally i hate to sell them now(or ever) but if i'm forced i need to sell my bitcoin anyway
16282  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price prediction on: May 21, 2015, 12:12:03 PM
Zero or hero there will be no middle ground.

it's funny because the current price it begs to differ, there is still a little chance that we won't see either, no falling nor increasing

all those templete, will only reduce the vitality of the forum(because no more new thread will be created), look at the forum is half dead if it was not for sig campaign

what is it with the sigs ? you get some bitcoin for having adverts in your sig ?

yeah of course look at the forum is full of users with a sig, there must be a reason, none here is doing it for free
16283  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: hackable faucet..use with tor or elite vpn for quick bitcoin on: May 21, 2015, 12:05:10 PM
you can't do that with every faucet, some of them have banned the most used ip via vpn, you need to search everytime for a new ip that is not banned, i tried it myself

but i guess with some unknow faucets it could work, but you still need a bot to boost your earning to a worth it level
16284  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to join signature campaign? on: May 21, 2015, 12:02:40 PM
go in the 777coin campaign thread and ask there to join

here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=840124.0
16285  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is Bitcoin to you??? on: May 21, 2015, 11:57:19 AM
Bitcoin is not really a good investment now because the price is volatile. Best investment is of course gold, because the price is much more stable .

how bitcoin is not stable when we are floating in the same range since months, bitcoin is stable than ever right now, it's a good time to buy, before every recent good news, will make it skyrocket

for me bitcoin is a good investment and remittance form of currency Cheesy

how bitcoin is not stable when we are floating in the same range since months, bitcoin is stable then ever right now, it's a good time to buy, before every recent good news, will make it skyrocket

What I didn't get is, where that guy shulio talk about the stability of coins???
How is your question related to the reply shulio gave???

my bad i quoted the wrong part
16286  Economy / Economics / Re: NYSE declares bitcoin "emerging ASSET CLASS" on: May 21, 2015, 09:45:18 AM
asset class suits more to the meaning of what bitcoin could be really, classified into something, but if everyone begin to see it as a different thing, it may bring some confusion

i like how they will expand their index to others exchange, from the news you can also snatch that they are building the infrastructure for bitcoin and not investing in bitcoin itself

this is why the price has not yet lifted
16287  Economy / Services / Re: Do this International Management assignment and get up to $200 in coinz on: May 21, 2015, 09:35:26 AM
all good but, what is the guarantee that you will pay ? you need to move your fund in some escrow first, before one can accept this
16288  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC in your country on: May 21, 2015, 09:22:17 AM
Can an1 explain me how to use bitcoin

use the correct subforum for your question, we are off here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=39.0
16289  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: OrcaVPN | DDoS Protected VPN | Fast | Simple | Cheap on: May 21, 2015, 08:08:31 AM
This is too fishy. The cheap price just makes it even more suspicious. I would definitely stay away from these guys because of all the information that they don't provide.

i think you can try it anyway at best you will lose 2 not a big deal i think, usually those service have a deal with double the price per month, so not too far away from this

too bad i don't need anymore those service or i would have tried it myself, for sure
16290  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Regulation The End For Bitcoin? on: May 21, 2015, 08:01:07 AM
i think if something is regulated, it can be corrupted.
i prefer bitcoin should not be regulated by anyone


Thats right it will like a government of any country. We will pay a taxes and also many of users will not agree to that regulation. YES its end of the bitcoin.

The trading should be regulated to protect traders.

exchange should only be hit by the regulation not bitcoin itself, basically they are regulating the fiat that come from bitcoin

some states want to regulate bitcoin itself, which is no sense, they don't even know what bitcoin can be classified to

LOL how many times people have declared Bitcoin is dead?... keep it coming...LOL

basically after every dump they say so
16291  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Big Picture on: May 21, 2015, 07:56:24 AM
people here don't have patience. they want profit, and they want it quick. i'm not really a fan of looking at charts and say it will go up or down. i only look at the facts. fact is that short term doesn't look bright, sub $200 is not far away.

Interesting.  I do not like to predict short term price swings on a long term investment, it is rather pointless as trendlines can be drawn different ways.  I would not argue that $180 would be completely out of the realm of possibility tweaking the line slightly.  Some call downtrend, but it all just a matter of perspective on the time frame you are basing the analysis off of.

Just out of curiosity though, you say you do not look at charts to predict price movement, yet you seem to have come to the conclusion that "fact is that short term doesn't look bright, sub $200 is not far away".  Care to elaborate on where you get these "facts" for a price prediction, if you do not get it from the charts?

$180 trendline:


by looking at the price on any random exchange anyone would say based on the manipulated wall that sub 200 may happen, but only because we are so near it, it won't mean that it will really happen, based on that chart i think the price will not see any raise for a while, then will explode at a certain point
16292  Economy / Speculation / Re: I cannot believe the price does not move after NYSE news on: May 21, 2015, 07:49:38 AM
I think that good news is expected.

If there wasn't any good news, everybody would sell.

so the good news that work now, is to make bitcoin not worst in the price

in the end bad news drive the bitcoin dumping, good news prevent that, then my question is , what we need to raise?
16293  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gaming on the Blockchain on: May 21, 2015, 07:43:14 AM
Imagine the world that everyone playing a game to earn Bitcoin Shocked It would be a great time, I would support this project Grin

yeah but not simply games, we need something big, like blizzard/valve games or general good fps game

card games are an okish start but i want more complex game

this is interesting, is there a demo site we could play with?

do we get some free coins to play with?

i think you should get something to begin with, if they want to encourage adoption rate for this project

16294  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Governments Will Create Their Own Cryptocurrencies on: May 21, 2015, 07:41:24 AM
I doubt the government will create a Cryptocurrencies as bitocin, because Cryptocurrencies as bitocin can't be control by government.

And I am guessing you didn't go through the trouble to read the OP, did you?
The OP clearly states that they could create their own centralized cryptocurrency.

which doesn't make sense, because they already have it, it's called fiat and the mining cost is also very low compared to a possible crypto mininting cost, unless they will do it pos and distribute it to citizens

at least they are moving away from fiat and introducing more the crypto wolrd, maybe it was this at which satoshi was aiming since the start, not making bitcoin big, but making cryptoworld big
16295  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A tax question about bitcoin as asset on: May 21, 2015, 07:33:24 AM
It is just considered a property in the United States, isn't it?  It could be worse.  Thank god we don't have to pay capital gain taxes on it.

well yes but usa isn't the entire world, the problem is not everyone is seeing bitcoin as a property(i still think bitcoin should be considered just a currency, even if his value is tied for now to fiat), look here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1067164.0, they consider it an asset

this thing about everyone having their own interpretation is irritating me, bitcoin should simply be considered a currency, nothing else
16296  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin trading strategy on: May 21, 2015, 07:29:17 AM
The best  strategy is buying now and never sell it until the price going to $10000. You can't think the price is only $200+, right?

This is known as a long term strategy in BTC trading but as you know that this strategy is quite risky especially with the current state of the price where you can see that the price is declining day by day.

Your prediciton is a bit off there as no one could ever guarantee that the price is going to raise up because all we can see that the market itself is now controlled by pure manipulation of some group of whales.

Not to mention that satoshi himself said that there will be either alot of BTC transaction in the future or nothing.
This actually indicates that satoshi himself is not even sure about the future as things might happen

shorter strategy is risky too and more dangerous than just holding, also is less newbie friendly, you need to be a little professional to do it well

satoshi said that because for him bitcoin was still a test, i would like to know what he would say now...

Not really. Since there are two kinds of short term strategy here. The one that you mentioned is about day trading which need the skills to read graphs and the ability to take on profit for every margin of buy and sell .
The other kind would be a short term strategy which doesnt require the ability to read graphs or so. I.e buy 1 BTC at $235 and sell it tomorrow for $1 would be a great turn of profit.

The long term strategy on the other hand require much longer time and much more difference before someone willing to sell like almost difference of $25 before people willing to sell it because they thought that it is not worth it and of course lack of time to check the prices as well

P.S : Test or no, BTC has change a lot of people's life. Im grateful that I have the chance to know about BTC  Wink

basically the other short strategy you are talking about is pure gambling, because without ta observation you can't go far away, one day you lose more than your lucky gain, unless you're farsighted and your actions do not stop soon
16297  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?! on: May 21, 2015, 07:26:01 AM
Because it's dead.
How do you know?  If it is dead why you still using this forum? I think if it is dead, no people will use bitcoin and also in this forum.

he still use it to dump for fiat, and make it even more dead, but bitcoin isn't dead it's just trapped in the middle of the fight between bull and bear
16298  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Google "Bitcoin" on: May 21, 2015, 07:23:05 AM
it's better that you get coindesk instead, because he can teach you much more with all the news that come there, and anyway i'm still getting the org site, when i type bitcoin
16299  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: May 21, 2015, 07:21:22 AM
Save money is a bad idea, it like you lent your money to rich people, and make them more richer. Find a right way to invest your money, you can earn more.

and you can also lose more, here we are speak about people that who can not afford to lose, hence the discussion

i still think you can do both, saving and investing at the same time, and treat your saving as a back-up investment, if your investment goes wrong you have still money for live

Savings always comes first. Think of it as the foundation upon which your financial house is built. The reason is simple - unless you inherit a large amount of money, it is your savings that will provide you with the capital to feed your investments.Savings is present and Investment is future. Both are necessary.

saving come first only because of possible emergency in the future, but if you are good enough with your money and your earnings are always superior to the outputs, you don't need to save that much, investing(here i'm talking only about low risk investment, like buying a small land for example) on the other hand, it may save you in the future while also growing your money at the same time
16300  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin dead? on: May 21, 2015, 07:14:03 AM
A lot of money is coming in for infrastructure development...and it seems as though the banking industry is catching up...seems like things are just getting started rather than leading to a demise...

money are not coming in the market, the price speak for itself, all those good news will have a delayed effect, otherwise one could not explain will despite those the price is still there half-dead

Bitcoin is alive. WE STILL USING IT. And bitcoin help us financially and mentally. And also we all learned by this forum and earn a money.

the problem is actually this, we are the only one using it, the numbers of users of bitcoin did not grow that much in the past months, until now
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