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1641  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Emotional Arguments on: December 28, 2010, 04:22:18 PM
Still emotionally, it's a cold and lonely place to be. Sometimes it feels as if the whole world is against you.

Actually, most of the world is against you.
This text gives a good idea why: http://mises.org/daily/4700
At least in what concerns the antimarket bias, it's part of human nature.
1642  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Emotional Arguments on: December 28, 2010, 04:16:17 PM
With the bitcoin community, techno-libertarians can actually DO something.

Exactly. I find that much more effective than trying to evangelize people.
1643  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Only to Brazilians - Quero comprar alguns bitcoins on: December 28, 2010, 11:45:30 AM
Ah não, mas quando falava de paypal, estava pensando na possibilidade de uma exchange entre BTC e BRL usando PaypalBRL...
PaypalUSD tem o risco de chargeback, não tem mais ninguém vendendo BTC por PaypalUSD depois das fraudes que o MtGox sofreu. Nem perca seu tempo e dinheiro tentando adquirir dólares paypal...
1644  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Only to Brazilians - Quero comprar alguns bitcoins on: December 28, 2010, 10:48:53 AM
Opções?
O MtGox quando começou só fazia compra e venda mesmo... depois que foi implementando todas as features.

Acho que só de ter uma exchange BRL<->BTC já seria um estímulo a mais brasileiros usarem bitcoins. Por exemplo, conheço brasileiros que moram aqui na Europa e que vivem procurando meios de transferir grana pro Brasil mais em conta...

Teria que ver como funciona o paypal em reais. Eu acho que no Brasil não existe charge-back, mas não tenho certeza. Se for assim, aí seria relativamente seguro implementar uma exchange usando paypal. Bom, é sempre uma dúvida a questão fiscal né...
1645  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Only to Brazilians - Quero comprar alguns bitcoins on: December 28, 2010, 09:10:33 AM
Estou pensando em oferecer um serviço de recarga de celular para conseguir alguns bitcoins... será que vira?

Seria muito legal!

Por outro lado, se brasileiros não conseguirem comprar BTCs facilmente, acho que você não vai conseguir vender muita recarga... e mesmo você teria dificuldade para pagar o fornecedor, não?

O que faz falta mesmo é uma exchange...
1646  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Paying myself in Bitcoins? on: December 28, 2010, 08:41:43 AM
It would be really nice if an employer find a way to pay people in BTC.

But I guess it isn't that simple... for example, what about minimum wage laws? Don't they force you to pay a minimum amount in the official currency?
In Brazil, there are laws that forbids the employer from decreasing the nominal value of a salary. Isn't the same for the US? Fixing the the salary in BTC and paying with USD would be really risky in such case, as you wouldn't be allowed to decrease the USD amount.

Maybe the easiest way is to have an official, minimum wage salary in USD, and all the rest paid as "variant complement" in BTC... but even that might bring the unions on you...
1647  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Only to Brazilians - Quero comprar alguns bitcoins on: December 27, 2010, 08:43:11 PM
Achei esse site numa busca rápida: http://senhormoney.com/categories.php?page=view&id=82

Não sei se é confiável. Você poderia começar com pequenas quantidades. Aí com o LibertyReserve você compra bitcoins no MtGox.
1648  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Only to Brazilians - Quero comprar alguns bitcoins on: December 27, 2010, 08:34:23 PM
Infelizmente ninguém abriu ainda uma exchange BRL<->BTC... uma pena, no Brasil acho que não existe o risco do charge-back, então acho que poderiam até mesmo usar o paypal... enfim...

Eu não estou no Brasil, então não sei como outros brasileiros estão fazendo para comprar BTCs a partir de reais... sei que não sou o único brasileiro no fórum, acho que o cara da loteria (nelisk ou algo assim) também é brasileiro... tenta entrar em contato direto com ele.

Você já viu se não dá pra comprar LibertyReserveUSD ou PaxumUSD com um cartão de crédito brasileiro?
1649  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Greetings all on: December 23, 2010, 07:47:16 PM
By the way, this is the first time I open bitcoin watch and I see a lower than 6 block per hour average...
1650  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Greetings all on: December 23, 2010, 07:42:42 PM
4 BTC for $1? Not bad. There should be a currency convertion displayed on the website so people can see what the days exchange rate is for dollars, pounds and Euro's etc, or for gold. Then if people work up the courage to actually transact a big amount of stuff with BTC, then BTC might actually become trusted as somewhere to store money.... or am I wrong?

It doesn't make much sense having the rate on bitcoin.org because there is no "official rate". There are different exchanges, from cash-in-the-mail to credit cards, and prices floats freely on them.

If you want a good summary of bitcoin data there is http://bitcoinwatch.com
1651  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin and net neutrality on: December 23, 2010, 10:59:23 AM
What you mean?

If you have the means to start your ISP, you should just be able to do it without having to ask any sort of permission/license, nor abiding to any imposed rules.
1652  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin and net neutrality on: December 23, 2010, 10:26:50 AM
And you can say 'just switch to some other provider' but that won't help as in some places there is only one ISP, or two/three that collude against the customer. That seems to be especially the problem in the US where the telecom companies are really powerful and it's almost impossible to start a competitor.

But then this is the true problem, not net neutrality. Enforcing net neutrality is like creating another problem to try to fix a previous one.
ISPs should be free to provide services as they want. At the same time, everyone should have the right to start an ISP....
1653  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin and net neutrality on: December 23, 2010, 10:23:39 AM
Government prohibiting all cryptography? How is that supposed to work? Cryptography is just applied mathematics. The notion of making cryptography illegal is just absurd as, say, making calculus illegal.

They could eventually forbid all encrypted communication, except those listed as "legal". So, they would keep letting you access your bank with HTTPS, but you wouldn't go much further than the services the government control.

This would be quite a 1984 scenario, I don't think it will ever happen. Well, I hope...
1654  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: btcex.com looking for partners on: December 22, 2010, 02:19:55 PM
Unless you find some good lawyers that can make bitcoin pass as a generic commodity exchange, and not currency, since it's not an official currency of any state.

Are the same demands applicable for gold and silver exchanges?
1655  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Feature request : signing a text with a wallet key on: December 21, 2010, 10:58:12 AM
Give it up, davout.  Gene is right.   It's a feature that is not necessary to bitcoin, and that could be implemented with an external, optionnal, program.

The default implementation uses a specific (custom) type of keystore, as far as I know. So it would be better if it provides the means to manipulate the keys in it. In terms of maintenance, being an external tool or not it will remain a job for the same developer community since this tool would be completely linked to bitcoin's specific type of keystore.

What I mean is, your unix motto of "do just one thing, but do it well' doesn't apply while the bitcoin client remains coupled to a custom type of keystore. It is already doing more than one thing.

The ideal scenario would be a client not strongly coupled to any type of keystore. In this case, one could make a build/config of the client that uses a more standardized type of keystore which already has all the tools to manipulate the keys in it.
1656  Other / Off-topic / Re: Wtf... on: December 21, 2010, 08:22:43 AM
What if I want my kid to BE ABLE to watch it? Smiley

hehe
Not to mention that trying to block porn from a kid old enough to want it is quite useless... at this age, the kid will probably be smarter than his parents regarding technology, and will bypass any sort of protection.
Parental control protects only against accidental accesses, not intentional ones.
1657  Economy / Marketplace / Re: EU network of BTC exchangers on: December 20, 2010, 09:30:21 PM
The transfer was free to me (I live in France).

So, what you want to create isn't exactly an exchange but a "selling site", right? Because if it was an exchange you shouldn't bother with having enough coins.

Well, sorry, but I can't help you there... I don't have that many bitcoins, and I'd like to buy more instead of sell, so...
1658  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Suggestion for dwdollar & other BTC traders: How to fix the SCAM problem on: December 20, 2010, 09:09:01 PM
because nobody wants to wait half a year to get his bitcoins.

+2

That's just too long.
1659  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Feature request : signing a text with a wallet key on: December 20, 2010, 09:01:58 PM
I put this under the category of "I own my data, and should be able to do with it what I want."

Being able to import and export bitcoin keypairs to/from wallets seems an obvious need to me.

+1

I think the same. Since it was chosen to use a specific type of keystore to hold bitcoin keys, there should be a way to manipulate the keys in this keystore.

What would be really ideal from an architectural point of view would be a client that is decoupled from the keystore type. Just by configuring something and implementing an interface you could plug another type of keystore and use it.
But, well, that has a lower priority, I'd say.
1660  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Dark Pools At Work? on: December 20, 2010, 03:33:37 PM
There's a big psychological difference between "free" and "non-free"... there are some interesting experiments there.
That might have decrease the number of orders somehow... but you may be right too, it's a very tiny fee.... anyway, I was just speculating...
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