LeL I am now below my average cost per btc. It is my turn to feel the pain. Coulda cashed out from 3.8k and bought back. Didn't. What did I do instead? Bought more. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Nothing wrong with buying more, especially when the price is already nearly 84% down from its $19,666 top, and even at $3,800 it would have ben down nearly 81% from its top, so buying anywhere in this area, even if BTC prices do happen to go down to $1k (which I hope that they will not, but they could), still seems to be a decent time to be buying - even though there seem to be some buying contra-indications, including that the price is falling so fast that it could be prudent to wait, too... (the catching a falling knife difficulty (and pain)).
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Difficult to know what December 2018 and thereafter is going to bring in terms of BTC price performance, but I am having some doubts that in the short-term shorting BTC is going to be nearly as lucrative as it was in either 2014 or 2018... but what do I know?
The medium to long term price is relatively easy to predict... only shorter term is difficult. However, atm the price is in a very steady downtrend, so expect more of the same. The only interruption will be the odd sharp rally over the next few months, but the trend is still down. Actually, I am ready to concede about the bear market characterization of the current BTC market. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) If even JJG is capitulating, we might be near already. Does not mean that I am "capitulating" on anything beyond labelling this dumb ass less than preferable situation that we us BTC HODLers and accumulators are in (at this time). So are we "officially" in a bear market now. At 9-12K you weren't having any of that kinda talk. Don't you know that when this person declares what is what- then it is. When someone else makes a declaration then it is pie-in-the-sky thinking with no percentage backing. You sure have a lot to say about me, even though you are "supposedly" ignoring me... Quite ridiculous that @ $6k --down almost $14k wasn't considered a bear market, but now $16K down it is. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) what is so ridiculous about that, numb nuts, and really who gives a shit? Everyone has a right to make timely market assessments and hopefully explain why they are making such assessments... Of course, if you attempt to back up such assessments they are going to make more sense than a mere proclamation without any explanation. Just goes to show that more words does != more intelligence. loquacity = more shit
Just goes to show that grandma probably should not let you stay up so late, and maybe if she gave you some cookies and milk earlier, then you would not be so mouthy... instead you would be in sleepy sleep landia. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) rather than typing random nonsense. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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"less than preferable situation"
That's right buddy. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Ho ho ho! Looks like some of you pole smokers are going to have to go back to work next year. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I wouldn't be overly shocked if we were under $2k by Christmas. You debbie downer, party poop!!!!
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Difficult to know what December 2018 and thereafter is going to bring in terms of BTC price performance, but I am having some doubts that in the short-term shorting BTC is going to be nearly as lucrative as it was in either 2014 or 2018... but what do I know?
The medium to long term price is relatively easy to predict... only shorter term is difficult. However, atm the price is in a very steady downtrend, so expect more of the same. The only interruption will be the odd sharp rally over the next few months, but the trend is still down. Actually, I am ready to concede about the bear market characterization of the current BTC market. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) If even JJG is capitulating, we might be near already. Does not mean that I am "capitulating" on anything beyond labelling this dumb ass less than preferable situation that we us BTC HODLers and accumulators are in (at this time). So are we "officially" in a bear market now. At 9-12K you weren't having any of that kinda talk. What the fuck is your problem? There is nothing of much importance about what I say regarding where we are at. I was just asserting that when BTC prices were above $6k, then there was nothing really stopping a kind of 2013 scenario rather than a 2014 scenario, but after BTC prices dropped below $6k, the 2014 scenario became much more likely and the 2013 scenario much more slim. Of course, different people are going to come to varying conclusions about where we are at and what are the likelihoods, so prior to dropping below $6k, I had no reservations about busting balls, ovaries or any other body part in regards to premature calls of a bear market, when we weren't quite there yet.... The mere fact that we are now there, does not mean that such bear market was inevitable, merely because it became what happened (or at least seems to be the case, presently).
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This is not free market behaviour. Theres a mad "professor" dumping his bags. More than any buyer can absorb.
if Ver and Wu were smart they would give up on ABC, dump both ABC and SV, and buy Bitcoin. that would fuck faketoshi over They have way too much Bcash ABC. There is not enough liquidation, and the bcash ABC prices would be sent to pennies if they dumped their bcash ABC bags.
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another thousand pages...sigh
22,000
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Please don't include me in your "pie in the sky bulls" categorization.
Hhahahahahaha I just like to throw out a bit of colorful expressions, now and then... not to be taken personally. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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1 - The only thing that Shitcoin SV is going to flip is Shitcoin Cash, not Bitcoin 2 - Somebody is definitely selling a fuck ton of BTC on the markets and pumping Shitcoin SV ( as you can see, they are correlated) 3 - It's the same scenario as in 2017 when the dumbfucks were expecting Shitcoin Cash to flip Bitcoin... and it never happened. 4 - The BTC bears are going to get fucked big time according to this chart ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FV6UZVok.png&t=663&c=iaaCVpXmcFr48Q) Hey? I thought that you were a bear? You look just like one. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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So, when is the $100 000 WO party and where? I pay the subway ticket for the bears.
I am also interested in the answer. Especially the "when" part. November 20, 2021 in Vegas. We still need to agree the venue for the party. All accommodation arrangements are to be made privately because opsec. I guess Bob mentioned some islands in the Caribbean... it's a better idea as most of us are probably coming in our private jets anyway and we need some sun after long cold evenings with alcohol in front of our laptops during HODL. I'm not sure whose derriere that Nov. 20, 2021 date was pulled from but we're not having a $100k party until we actually reach $100k. As for the location, Vegas is just about the last place I'd want to go to, even if Uncle Sam wanted to let me. Vegas is a shithole unless you're addicted to gambling. Sleazy low-class trash. Anywhere in the Caribbean would suit me just fine or as someone suggested, summertime in Amsterdam would be a fine alternate choice. I guess the season depends on when we hit $100k. First, the BTC price is not going to reach $100k until after the 2024 halvening, and in late 2020 or early 2021, BTC is only going to reach $98,765.43... Sorry to break the seemingly bearish news to you pie in the sky bulls, expecting $100k before the 2024 halvening. Second, tentative date for such $100k-ish party could still be good based on price... even though it would possibly cause some logistic problems if guys (and gal) are unable to clear their schedules on such short notice.
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Difficult to know what December 2018 and thereafter is going to bring in terms of BTC price performance, but I am having some doubts that in the short-term shorting BTC is going to be nearly as lucrative as it was in either 2014 or 2018... but what do I know?
The medium to long term price is relatively easy to predict... only shorter term is difficult. However, atm the price is in a very steady downtrend, so expect more of the same. The only interruption will be the odd sharp rally over the next few months, but the trend is still down. Actually, I am ready to concede about the bear market characterization of the current BTC market. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) If even JJG is capitulating, we might be near already. Does not mean that I am "capitulating" on anything beyond labelling this dumb ass less than preferable situation that we us BTC HODLers and accumulators are in (at this time).
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Difficult to know what December 2018 and thereafter is going to bring in terms of BTC price performance, but I am having some doubts that in the short-term shorting BTC is going to be nearly as lucrative as it was in either 2014 or 2018... but what do I know?
The medium to long term price is relatively easy to predict... only shorter term is difficult. However, atm the price is in a very steady downtrend, so expect more of the same. The only interruption will be the odd sharp rally over the next few months, but the trend is still down. Actually, I am ready to concede about the bear market characterization of the current BTC market. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) Did the whole 20k to 4K thing not quite make its mark ? (Answers on a postcard,or better still a postage stamp.) it's a retrospective assessment thing. I don't tend to make any kind of solid BTC predictions, but part of my point, here, is that when BTC prices were staying above $6k, it seemed too early to concede that BTC was in a bearmarket.... Now, it does NO longer seem too early to concede such assessment, anymore. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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Opened it, read like the first few pages... didn't find any single piece of evidence or solid argument about anything. Stopped reading and erased it from my mind. No opinion. So it’s all just bullshit? Even the part about the new forum software? Where's that part? I don't know if it is all bullshit, there's a lot of words there and very little meat. I don’t think you read down far enough. People start to post links and talk about different shit further down. Most of it does look like drama crap but there’s enough realistic shit to make me curious. Why in this thread, though? Why not another thread?
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In Europe there are 10 hours to finish on Thursday. Someone at Wall Oberver said there would be a storm on Thursday... I'm opening the umbrella ?
I don't think that means what you think it does. There's no sign of JJG in the horizon. Maybe he decided to take the day off? ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I'm not a bot, fuck head. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) That's called a pre-emptive strike. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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forgot to say, the eth chart says it's going to 17, not 50 lol rekt. it might bounce before that utter humiliation but w/e trouble is, 'everyone' says that^ and wants to rebuy that scammy nonsense at that level to flip it to its retarded believers
o.k... ETH going to $17 rather than $50. Maybe o.k. for bitcoin long term, but short term aren't they all crashing together. In other words, even if some of the alts and shitcoins are crashing more than bitcoin, aren't they bringing bitcoin down with them?
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I thought that the lightning network had both public and private channels, so in that regard, is 450 BTC a reflection of the total size? Forgive the newbie-ness of my question, but I really am unclear about how the private versus public aspects can be tracked and what kinds of numbers are reflected by such.
Track LN network capacity is pretty easy since all you need to do is check for 2-of-2 multi-sig HLTC transaction on bitcoin network. It's simple and effective method as almost nobody use such transaction format. Private network/channel only prevent your transaction tracked from services such as https://1ml.com/, but it's not really private if you make channel directly to public node. CMIIW. So the punchline is that the 450-ish BTC on the lightning network is a largely accurate assessment of its full capacity?
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Difficult to know what December 2018 and thereafter is going to bring in terms of BTC price performance, but I am having some doubts that in the short-term shorting BTC is going to be nearly as lucrative as it was in either 2014 or 2018... but what do I know?
The medium to long term price is relatively easy to predict... only shorter term is difficult. However, atm the price is in a very steady downtrend, so expect more of the same. The only interruption will be the odd sharp rally over the next few months, but the trend is still down. Actually, I am ready to concede about the bear market characterization of the current BTC market. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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There is $1,800,000 in there. We should have a campaign underway to make Bitcoin merchants, casino gambling sites, and exchanges play with the Lightning Network. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Where can we find some good guides for merchants to set up Lightning to experiment with, and what are the channels to find community tech support? https://www.longhash.com/news/lightnings-crazy-fast-growthToday, over 450 BTC ($1,800,000) is held in Lightning Network channels -- a 100x increase in channel capacity since February. In addition, there are currently over 16,000 channels on main net -- a 16x increase in channels since February. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.longhash.com%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2F2018-12-05%2Fueditor_68752f9e05c3c8f0ed9619e82f936ab5.jpg&t=663&c=yY5-t_sfabZOuw) I thought that the lightning network had both public and private channels, so in that regard, is 450 BTC a reflection of the total size? Forgive the newbie-ness of my question, but I really am unclear about how the private versus public aspects can be tracked and what kinds of numbers are reflected by such.
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Do you have a source link for that one?
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short-term shorting BTC is going to be nearly as lucrative as it was in either 2014 or 2018 Can we speculate that 2022 might be the same? Would not be unreasonable to have some tentative outline about what is possible without getting too attached to such picture, because it seems that patterns are meant to be broken in bitcoinlandia... nonetheless, I could see some kind of decent correction coming a couple of years after the next halvening.. TLDR: Cannot count on it, but can at least consider that there are decent chances of such an outline.
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Trace thinks that this is being done in part to "kill" some naughty miner-producing entity. Guess, which one? https://twitter.com/TraceMayerSome #Bitcoin miners annoyed #HODLGANG so extermination & replacement with friendlier to @bitcoincoreorg. Makes some sense to me. Can't really ever deny observations of Trace, yet there seem to be a multitude of dynamics including pushing in the shitcoin space in which the two bcash branches seem to be suffering the most, and Ethereum is experiencing decent purging of froth too. I am kind of thinking that there could be some kind of attempt to reach shitcoin singularity with the bcashes and Ethereum around the same price - maybe in the $80 arena or below... Bring them all below $20 would be nice, but that's too much wishful thinking coming out of me... and maybe as nutilah said, a $50 Ethereum might still serve some shit functions, perhaps?... A problem with Ripple is that the units are off - maybe $.08 would be an overvaluing of ripple, but there seems to sufficient enough dumb money keeping it in the $.30s, with this downfall, and just so much ongoing dumb money from there that would not likely be purged unless some of the ripple CEOs were thrown in jail, which does not seem too likely to happen, either...
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