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It seems Bitcoin has run out of steam. Now it ll probably go down go 730 and Factom should have some space to grow.
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We re almost 1 month after testnet s been lunched and Factom did say it was gonna be couple of weeks. What s with Factom and missing their deadlines? Double, triple, quadruple deadline? Is this how business word acts and operates today? Now someone s gonna say, "it s better to wait and have perfect product....." Well, in that case you can wait till next NY cause in business, there s always something to improve.
BTC goes up, FCT (and all other alts go down a bit) = Crazyivan crying again. Who from the official FCT team made any promises in regards to launch date? Nobody... Why don't you just sell your coins and leave this forum? Better for your heart I think. I do not feel browsing back but either Brian or Alan stated "couple of weeks" in one of their previous posts. This isn't true. Paul Snow said 11/7 wrt M2 release: "At least a few weeks, but as long as necessary.” On 11/1 he wrote: "A couple of months ago I said we were weeks away from a testnet. Our schedule is dictated by testing, and we are testing the heck out of M2, so we are at the edge of that statement. We are quiet, but as Github shows we are hard at work. I am not ready to delay out to 2017. I've been terrible at estimating our schedule, so I'll not say more than that.” Brian Deery hasn't speculated on a timeline.
So I suggest you read a bit before you start attacking crazyivan.
Indeed. But you forgot the comma before "crazyivan." I m not a native English speaker so I might be wrong but when somebody says to me that line, I really do not expect 16 weeks. What do you expect when you read that D-lux? Does 16 weeks, for example, ever fits the definition of "at least couple of weeks"? Nah, in my mind it means, 2 weeks would be the best possible result, but we do anticipate some potential problems so it might extend to 4 weeks. Ok, we ve had 4 weeks now. Can I it be 16? Definitely not. If you count in the part "as long as it s necessary, then 16 week or 2 years definitely become an option and I really do not think this is what Paul wanted to say. He used that second part of the sentence to state he s been bad at estimating and when he stated "I am not ready to delay out to 2017" then we come back to my original understanding, 2 weeks would be best, 4-5 should be top, final deadline. If my understanding s wrong, please correct me, crazyivan is a naval term, I m not really crazy.....much.  ) EDIT: Alan updated us just at the moment I posted this previous comment. Thank you, Alan. It s nice of you to update us from time to time. Thx again. Does this mean this goal of 2017 s still the goal we should all expect? Once the testnet went out, we started a phase where we do passes over our regression tests, and clean up on lagging issues. I am doing everything I can do to get the update out, and haven't given up on 2016. But we will not put out an update that fails a significant test, so testing dictates everything. As I said, I've been terrible at estimating schedules. That is all on me. Paul Ok, your best guess is still 2016 but you do not want to speculate, I can understand that. Thx Paul. I used this "Alan" cause of your forum nick. |
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Will I ever have a normal Fly wallet without issues?  When I install the last one, first it complains, then it starts but it does not sync at all. I ve erased the chain, nothing, it just starts and sits there, 0 connections. Use my installer... that is easy and secure. Used it but, with zapwallet, it works. Thx. Can anyone explain to me what s the stake rate ATM? |
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I think they ve fixed it, I guess everything should be OK now.
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We re almost 1 month after testnet s been lunched and Factom did say it was gonna be couple of weeks. What s with Factom and missing their deadlines? Double, triple, quadruple deadline? Is this how business word acts and operates today? Now someone s gonna say, "it s better to wait and have perfect product....." Well, in that case you can wait till next NY cause in business, there s always something to improve.
BTC goes up, FCT (and all other alts go down a bit) = Crazyivan crying again. Who from the official FCT team made any promises in regards to launch date? Nobody... Why don't you just sell your coins and leave this forum? Better for your heart I think. I do not feel browsing back but either Brian or Alan stated "couple of weeks" in one of their previous posts. This isn't true. Paul Snow said 11/7 wrt M2 release: "At least a few weeks, but as long as necessary.” On 11/1 he wrote: "A couple of months ago I said we were weeks away from a testnet. Our schedule is dictated by testing, and we are testing the heck out of M2, so we are at the edge of that statement. We are quiet, but as Github shows we are hard at work. I am not ready to delay out to 2017. I've been terrible at estimating our schedule, so I'll not say more than that.” Brian Deery hasn't speculated on a timeline.
So I suggest you read a bit before you start attacking crazyivan.
Indeed. But you forgot the comma before "crazyivan." I m not a native English speaker so I might be wrong but when somebody says to me that line, I really do not expect 16 weeks. What do you expect when you read that D-lux? Does 16 weeks, for example, ever fits the definition of "at least couple of weeks"? Nah, in my mind it means, 2 weeks would be the best possible result, but we do anticipate some potential problems so it might extend to 4 weeks. Ok, we ve had 4 weeks now. Can I it be 16? Definitely not. If you count in the part "as long as it s necessary, then 16 week or 2 years definitely become an option and I really do not think this is what Paul wanted to say. He used that second part of the sentence to state he s been bad at estimating and when he stated "I am not ready to delay out to 2017" then we come back to my original understanding, 2 weeks would be best, 4-5 should be top, final deadline. If my understanding s wrong, please correct me, crazyivan is a naval term, I m not really crazy.....much. ) EDIT: Alan updated us just at the moment I posted this previous comment. Thank you, Alan. It s nice of you to update us from time to time. Thx again. Does this mean this goal of 2016 s still the goal we should all expect? |
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It seems everything s fine, at least for now. Another crysis ended. What s next?
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People are just emotional cause they are losing money now, but just be patient. Now isnt even the best time to launch m2.
The btc is in uptrend to 800$ and when the decline start a anouncement will be much better create much more buzz around m2 launch.
People what if the entry coins go x50 after launch can you imagine the daily burn rate. and a lower price only burn more and will eventually be noticed and rocks the price up again. Be patient let them work and do what they do best.
I agree on the fact some additional info now and then would be appreciated, and i really have no idea why they dont do that. Hiring someone isnt that expansive, but i'm saying that already for months and i dont see that changed anytime soon. And it doesnt change my view about factom.
Maybe anyone of the factom team can give an update about how the testing is going and if there are any problems, im trying to understand github better and better but its just not that easy if your not that comp. technical.
I fully agree with this but there s one big issue there, we re not their target group and Factom does not really care about Factoid holders since we our only purpose in their eyes was to contribute to the ICO funding. From business perspective, this is how capitalism works. From a perspective of building positive marketing and a strong community, yes, they should keep us regularly informed. We do not lose money unless we sell and even then I would not lose much cause I do not have much. Still, this BTC jump might go over 1k and get prolonged over the next few months. I m sure they cannot that long with M2 and time their products to match BTC price decline. |
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We re almost 1 month after testnet s been lunched and Factom did say it was gonna be couple of weeks. What s with Factom and missing their deadlines? Double, triple, quadruple deadline? Is this how business word acts and operates today? Now someone s gonna say, "it s better to wait and have perfect product....." Well, in that case you can wait till next NY cause in business, there s always something to improve.
BTC goes up, FCT (and all other alts go down a bit) = Crazyivan crying again. Who from the official FCT team made any promises in regards to launch date? Nobody... Why don't you just sell your coins and leave this forum? Better for your heart I think. I do not feel browsing back but either Brian or Alan stated "couple of weeks" in one of their previous posts. So I suggest you read a bit before you start attacking crazyivan. Do I need to teach you about the "ignore" option you re free to use anytime somebody rattles your cage again. |
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So what is the conclusion now? Only 2 credible and currently profitable gambling websites to invest? That s not even close to sufficiency. Soon they ll be saturated and no investment needed. Crypto economy s been slowly outgrowing itself.
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We re almost 1 month after testnet s been lunched and Factom did say it was gonna be couple of weeks. What s with Factom and missing their deadlines? Double, triple, quadruple deadline? Is this how business word acts and operates today? Now someone s gonna say, "it s better to wait and have perfect product....." Well, in that case you can wait till next NY cause in business, there s always something to improve.
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Hash sold, locking the topic.
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Any word from the campaign manager? It s been 2 days since this problem has appeared. We should have some info by now.
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That s what puzzles me. If Factom s really that good and this potentil s been recognized by several great names in the industry, how come XMR volume s 5x Factom or even more. It s gotta be related to the Polo margin lending which makes people keep their Factoids on the exchange, lending them for peanuts which supresses the price and consequently volume. Exodus s gonna change that big time and then we ll see the real market value of Factom. I ve got no other sane explanation.
Factoids were only ever intended as a payment to use the system, not to transfer wealth. Always amazed FCT has so much volume on polo, where does it all come from? Usage of the protocol is why Factoids exist and nothing else, these carboncopy tradingbots fighting each other in an echochamber of cups and handles is just noise. As for polo lending, FCT lending rates have been solid nearly all year, only in last few months is there a huge pool available at very low rates. Below 0.1% daily see no value in leaving money on exchange, they are highly coveted things by the nefarious. Even if your particular coins don't get stolen you'll still be forced to pay up for it à la Bitfinex I agree, this is why I believe most of Factoids ll get withdrawn as soon as we have a decent wallet. Also, this price drop s big time due to BTC skyrocketing again. |
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Both Avast and antikeylogger block this last wallet again. I m not going to install this as long they complain. With AV, it could be false positive but keylogger has never failed me. Ideas?
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Please do not try to withdraw, you know it s not gonna happen. You ll only complicate even more resolution of this issue and might even lose a pretty nice sig campaign. Dont be stupid, play fair.
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The problem is margin trading. I'm a long term holder of Factom but I also buy and sell on margin on top of my normal holdings which I don't trade. There are too many people playing these swings, especially since they tanked the price so cheap. So now we see patterns of loading up between 28-30 and selling 30-32 for quick easy money over and over. We just need the demand to surpass the sell orders which honestly won't be happening for around over a year if I had to guess or by the time factoids are actually valuable beyond a doubt. Right now, news and speculation isn't enough because the big holders are making more than enough by margin trading, especially being able to short it. There is no need to pump this, they make the money regardless, why pump and give more free money to plebs away?
True, but as soon as we get decent wallet, lots of people re going to withdraw their money from Polo cause nobody makes any money from margin lending of Factoids on Polo. This is will drastically reduce trading quantities and affect the price. So, big holders should turn to Factom and ask my favorite line, "Oh M2, where re thou?" M2 will be released when fct reach 400k stop asking Waiting for your genie for the magic lamp to push Factom to 400k. Is it there yet? |
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The problem is margin trading. I'm a long term holder of Factom but I also buy and sell on margin on top of my normal holdings which I don't trade. There are too many people playing these swings, especially since they tanked the price so cheap. So now we see patterns of loading up between 28-30 and selling 30-32 for quick easy money over and over. We just need the demand to surpass the sell orders which honestly won't be happening for around over a year if I had to guess or by the time factoids are actually valuable beyond a doubt. Right now, news and speculation isn't enough because the big holders are making more than enough by margin trading, especially being able to short it. There is no need to pump this, they make the money regardless, why pump and give more free money to plebs away?
True, but as soon as we get decent wallet, lots of people re going to withdraw their money from Polo cause nobody makes any money from margin lending of Factoids on Polo. This is will drastically reduce trading quantities and affect the price. So, big holders should turn to Factom and ask my favorite line, "Oh M2, where re thou?" |
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Interesting: Faucet and Casino are talking about well invested money.  Greetz Steve Ive totally given up on this thread. I wait to see if I can make a ROI To be fair tho, I have made some from affiliate sales, surely that is the way to go with Hashflare  affiliates are always the way to go, but their generally frowned upon on this forum as they lead to mindless shilling (genesis style). People hoping their only ROI is by getting others money involved. its one thing to gamble with your OWN money, but to sucker others in just to hope for your OWN ROI? thats just disgraceful ;p @ivan that's cool man, i just always took your previous posts very serious, your one of the people i feel knows much about this space. Its good to know you find them "moreso legit" Alex, take a look at this if you have not already. https://www.instagram.com/hashcoins/?hl=enMake sure you load all photos. As you can see, lots of photos of a small mining farm together with people who run hashflare. So they mine something 100%. Can it be fractional mining? Yes, everything s possible, this is crypto. On the other hand why would they try so hard to BS us? It s much easier to act a classic cloud mining scam, take money and run. Also, almost all of these people re on Linkedin, you can find their profiles, photos, names, everything. You can even connected with them and talk to them. Finally, I have reached ROI with them in August and continue making money with them. It does not add much to their legitimacy but none of cloudmining scam companies lets other people make money cause they prefer stealing money. To be 100% clear, I m not convincing or telling anyone to join them, your money, your decisions. its good for you that you've reached your ROI and i hope i can follow you. for now, if we want to make deposit in cloud mining, i think we should be careful to choose because once we make deposit, it needs too long to reach ROI, almost 10-12 month for mining bitcoin, but if we are no problem with that, so you can choose the best cloud mining and the hashflare is one of the oldest of cloud mining that still exist until now, the other is genesis mining, eobot, and hashnest. so, the choice is up to you and don't regret if someday you get scam. 10-12 months s long? In classic investment banking 30 years for ROI s considered acceptable result. You can do better then 10 months only in mining actual gold or diamonds. |
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Heh, bud, pls stop with these kindergarten stories about me trying to move the price with my comments or being scared about some other market. Fuck that market and that coin which can moved by the few posts of one guy. If Bill Gates can't move Factom price, I m sure I can't either. Also, I ve been into crypto for a long time and I ve learned the hard way that placing all your eggs in one basket and then expecting it will bring you miraculous wealth simply does not work. I d never have bag of anything cause it s simply stupid, I do differentiate my investments and I do quite well at the end of each month when it s time to cash out. I know you re upset your 33 Factoids re not worth million dollars so you feel free to identify crazyivan as the one who s behind that. I ve got news for you bud, THEY WILL NEVER BE WORTH MILLION DOLLARS. Good luck.  I can agree with almost everything CrazyIvan is saying, but funny to see how hypocrite he is after having bashed me for saying the same kind of truths that he is doing now. To test my memorie crazyivan sold all hes factoms cause he was seeing more in eth, i guess that wasnt such a good guess. Anyway i agree on the fact he was super bullish and suddenly he is complete bearish. Anyway we will see m2 might see a nice increase in entry credits and that means some nice burning happening  . Im just holding. If it goes lower i just buy more and lower my avarage ( btw my avarage is already way sub zero on factom ) Best coin 2016 for me. you just have a bad memory. my posts are still here, and anybody can see the chart... and compare
my PL doing fine
You mean you switched sides when you found out your Fud didnt work cause factom only heading one way. i mean I sold over 0.005 and starting to buy now... what exactly didn't work ? If you did that i can only say good trade. Once more, I think Factom s got potential but it does not mean they will deliver it or that someone else will not deliver it before them. This is why you cannot put my signature under bull or bear because I have no side here. Also, even if I did have side, its irrelevant cause I ve never tried to hide the fact I do not hold bags of Factom besides my usual trading quantity. Anyone who things differently s fine by me. @GrossBit, your position s been nothing but bashing Factom up to a few weeks ago, there we do not agree. @Mrboot, yes, I still believe in ETH and I believe it s ll come back in terms of price. That does not change my position about holding lots of anything. I have more less the same amount of ETH as I do FCT and I use it for trading as well. If the price rebounds, will make more money then I have ever with FCT. It all ends up in the number of BTC being made at the end of the year. That s all what it counts. Empty promises, great expectations and missed deadlines mean shit at that point. |
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Interesting: Faucet and Casino are talking about well invested money. Greetz Steve Ive totally given up on this thread. I wait to see if I can make a ROI To be fair tho, I have made some from affiliate sales, surely that is the way to go with Hashflare affiliates are always the way to go, but their generally frowned upon on this forum as they lead to mindless shilling (genesis style). People hoping their only ROI is by getting others money involved. its one thing to gamble with your OWN money, but to sucker others in just to hope for your OWN ROI? thats just disgraceful ;p @ivan that's cool man, i just always took your previous posts very serious, your one of the people i feel knows much about this space. Its good to know you find them "moreso legit" Alex, take a look at this if you have not already. https://www.instagram.com/hashcoins/?hl=enMake sure you load all photos. As you can see, lots of photos of a small mining farm together with people who run hashflare. So they mine something 100%. Can it be fractional mining? Yes, everything s possible, this is crypto. On the other hand why would they try so hard to BS us? It s much easier to act a classic cloud mining scam, take money and run. Also, almost all of these people re on Linkedin, you can find their profiles, photos, names, everything. You can even connected with them and talk to them. Finally, I have reached ROI with them in August and continue making money with them. It does not add much to their legitimacy but none of cloudmining scam companies lets other people make money cause they prefer stealing money. To be 100% clear, I m not convincing or telling anyone to join them, your money, your decisions. |
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