Right on schedule: Today at 07: 30:05 PM Deleted Post A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. So did everyone stop posting here all of a sudden or is BA just deleting all the posts?
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Seriously..WTF..I can't keep with what everyone is talking about in here. I don't know what's real and what's not. Coming in so late to this site is a mind f*ck.
Surely, you weren't first introduced to this forum via one of Dank's posts first, were you? |
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http://hashra.com/Hashra = Hash + RomaniaIn the process of penning, then providing more proof, but wanted to get the heads-up at there as quick as possible.
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Yeah, and this is why the Justice system in America blows.
Joshua Zipkin needs some street justice. IE: A bat to the head.
This is a public forum with probably more LEOs than real people. We'll just assume you mean this:  TO  No, i mean this:  +  As for LEOs - who gives a flying... I still say my idea's funner:  + =  We can even hire someone of the likes to deliver the payload:  That is better because it doesn't have an associated prison term. Are you going to the conference? Sending you a PM to answer this, bud. |
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does anyone think this thread contains too much cows?
Does it have nearly enough goats, and what's the question to 42?  "Are they talkin' 'bout us?" |
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 Obviously, CNN Money didn't do this for shits and giggles. |
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Yeah, and this is why the Justice system in America blows.
Joshua Zipkin needs some street justice. IE: A bat to the head.
This is a public forum with probably more LEOs than real people. We'll just assume you mean this: TO No, i mean this: + As for LEOs - who gives a flying... I still say my idea's funner: + = We can even hire someone of the likes to deliver the payload: |
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Watch, the name of that score level changed. Oh look, nothing else changed! Ah yes, because its an effect and not a cause. Its just a descriptor nothing to do with setting the actual rating as I've explained.
You're saying I gained traffic by artificially setting BFL low in order to placate 'BFL trolls' and prevent them flooding the thread. But if I set BFL higher, then the guide would have been flooded with posts about how BFL was too high, creating more traffic. You just blew my mind. ......... Anyway, lets pretend for a second that your logic wasn't totally fucked, lets look at the traffic numbers. Lets pretend for a second that by some witchcraft your voodoo logic means my traffic increased by 5%. This guide's views make up less than 5% of my views on the forums. So I gained 0.25% readership or 1,487 views over 7 months, hurrah! So what if it's just a descriptor? It proves, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that you are biased. If you were unbiased, you would not use a descriptor that is a company name to indicate the worst possible condition. That is the very definition of biased. Yes, I am saying you gained traffic by artifically setting BFL low in order to placate the trolls. That is exactly right. I am glad you admit that if you set BFL higher, if you based your guide on facts and were honest, you'd be flooded by how BFL is too high. It wouldn't generate more traffic, it would send you to the dustbin and you know it. If you were not seen as jumping on the BFL hate train and actually using facts and evidence to support your conclusions, you'd be a pariah and nobody would use your guide, because all the trolls would say what an idiot Dogie is and what a worthless shill you are. I'm not saying your hate train fueled guide increased your traffic, I'm saying it prevented you from losing traffic and allowed you to gain marketshare directly at BFLs expense. This is indisputable and you even admit so much in this post. I seriously doubt anyone here would disagree with the fact that if BFL were rated higher, you'd have the trolls yowling at you about how you're a shill and your guide is worthless. Do you deny this? Anyone, and I mean anyone who says anything positive about BFL on these forums is instantly labeled a shill. Go on, tell me that is false. 1) Beneficial to BFL? Hardly. How is it beneficial to BFL? 2) Tarnish your trust rating so people would be unwilling to listen to you? Absolutely, what is more appropriate than using the trust system to show you are untrustworthy and continually lie to your reader base? 3) I wasn't aware you were doing a business. You said yourself you didn't earn anything off of the guide, so what business would it affect? Or did you just slip up and commit yet another lie? 4) You said you wern't earning any income, so how could this be? Uh oh... yet another contradiction. 5) Not at all, are you just making stuff up now? I had no doubt you would continue to publish your false, biased information under the guise of "unbiased, factual information," I just wanted to make sure people knew that you were doing so.  |
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Yes, because the "energy" was so tremendous. It took all of about 20 minutes. Nice strawman.
As for your negative ratings, do you agree that the trust system is broken? Then if so, your rating doesn't matter.
If you do not agree, then the rating system is working as intended and your rating is just.
In either case, it doesn't matter. But to answer your flawed conclusion... let me ask you this. How many people have seen your biased guide containing all manner of false information? More than 327 I would imagine. So I use you as an example to show a flawed system and you in turn post false information and mislead many more people with your guide. You probably shouldn't talk about ethics.
You targeted me because I was maintaining an impartial resource which stated clearly that it was my personal interpretation and to be supplemented by a buyer's own research. That's what the -9 BFL category was for, quite simply because I didn't want to make a bigger deal out of your smear campaign or draw more attention to it should you be the target of any retaliation. You would have picked up OOF or OFL anyway and still be on 1 point regardless so it made no difference to your rating. In fact, I think you're equivalent rating has gone up quite considerably since you started your smear campaign - even ignoring the fact that you just went up more than any other company in the last adjustment. Of course it matters, I earn my livelihood from relationships I develop - both current and new - from these forums. You saw a quick and dirty opportunity that might benefit yourself at my expense and you went for it even though you knew it would almost certainly damage my ability to do business. You were not and are not maintaining an impartial resource. I think everyone here agrees with that, but you. But you keep promoting it as such, thereby misleading anyone and everyone who has read it. Do you even know what "impartial" means? You can't have an impartial resource that is your "personal interpretation" those things are mutually exclusive. Impartial means you base it only on facts, not your interpretation. To further the farce, you even created an entire CATEGORY named BFL. How on earth do you possibly maintain that it is impartial? Do you even hear yourself? Now, you made the claim that you "can't just rate someone a 1 because you don't like them" to someone else, and I pointed out that you are doing just that, among many other dishonest acts. I've given you fact based examples of why your guide is flawed and you've responded with more "personal interpretation" devoid of any supporting documentation or evidence. I also pointed out your inconsistent criteria that you establish and then throw away IN THE SAME POST, and yet you maintain that your guide is impartial?! Are you serious? Then if it matters, why don't you lobby Theymos to fix it? If it works as intended, then the trust system should not so easily be gamed. If it does not work as intended, it needs to be fixed. Your livelyhood? What about mine? You saw a quick and dirty opportunity to jump on the BFL hate bandwagon to boost your guide to the trolls and you took it. Now you're complaining about it happening to you? Please. Cry me a river. Don't be so hypocritical. Hey, dogie, when are you going to invite me over to your half million dollar home fully paid for with bitcoins from your personal account for dinner to discuss over eats how Josh sold EMC to BFL, but lead ALL its customers that he, alone, was the sole proprietor until it was realized he hadn't been since at least Q4, 2012, thanks to a press release depicting Sonny's probation, et al., via court documents? [I'm confused, have you crossed names in this post?] No I did not. Josh expressed concerns about his livelihood, and I turned it around using his recently purchased home via bitcoins, assuming your livelihood is not as good as his. All four of CoinWares sister companies have tens of millions of Monarchs on order, none of which worried one iota about this thread, ergo Josh's livelihood is not in danger of being disrupted. |
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Yes, because the "energy" was so tremendous. It took all of about 20 minutes. Nice strawman.
As for your negative ratings, do you agree that the trust system is broken? Then if so, your rating doesn't matter.
If you do not agree, then the rating system is working as intended and your rating is just.
In either case, it doesn't matter. But to answer your flawed conclusion... let me ask you this. How many people have seen your biased guide containing all manner of false information? More than 327 I would imagine. So I use you as an example to show a flawed system and you in turn post false information and mislead many more people with your guide. You probably shouldn't talk about ethics.
You targeted me because I was maintaining an impartial resource which stated clearly that it was my personal interpretation and to be supplemented by a buyer's own research. That's what the -9 BFL category was for, quite simply because I didn't want to make a bigger deal out of your smear campaign or draw more attention to it should you be the target of any retaliation. You would have picked up OOF or OFL anyway and still be on 1 point regardless so it made no difference to your rating. In fact, I think you're equivalent rating has gone up quite considerably since you started your smear campaign - even ignoring the fact that you just went up more than any other company in the last adjustment. Of course it matters, I earn my livelihood from relationships I develop - both current and new - from these forums. You saw a quick and dirty opportunity that might benefit yourself at my expense and you went for it even though you knew it would almost certainly damage my ability to do business. You were not and are not maintaining an impartial resource. I think everyone here agrees with that, but you. But you keep promoting it as such, thereby misleading anyone and everyone who has read it. Do you even know what "impartial" means? You can't have an impartial resource that is your "personal interpretation" those things are mutually exclusive. Impartial means you base it only on facts, not your interpretation. To further the farce, you even created an entire CATEGORY named BFL. How on earth do you possibly maintain that it is impartial? Do you even hear yourself? Now, you made the claim that you "can't just rate someone a 1 because you don't like them" to someone else, and I pointed out that you are doing just that, among many other dishonest acts. I've given you fact based examples of why your guide is flawed and you've responded with more "personal interpretation" devoid of any supporting documentation or evidence. I also pointed out your inconsistent criteria that you establish and then throw away IN THE SAME POST, and yet you maintain that your guide is impartial?! Are you serious? Then if it matters, why don't you lobby Theymos to fix it? If it works as intended, then the trust system should not so easily be gamed. If it does not work as intended, it needs to be fixed. Your livelyhood? What about mine? You saw a quick and dirty opportunity to jump on the BFL hate bandwagon to boost your guide to the trolls and you took it. Now you're complaining about it happening to you? Please. Cry me a river. Don't be so hypocritical. Hey, dogie, when are you going to invite me over to your half million dollar home fully paid for with bitcoins from your personal account for dinner to discuss over eats how Josh sold EMC to BFL, but lead ALL its customers that he, alone, was the sole proprietor until it was realized he hadn't been since at least Q4, 2012, thanks to a press release depicting Sonny's probation, et al., via court documents? |
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Why should I not pick someone who is actively and prominently spreading false information? The point is that anyone, no matter how highly or lowly regarded can game the system with ease. Picking an abandoned account that can't defend itself would not prove the point. Picking an account, in this case yours, that would vigorously defend itself and still end up with a shitcan rating illustrates how broken the system is.
So as COO of BFL, you preferred to incentivise your forum members to discredit me rather than spend that energy to improve your company and so improve your rating... I have 327 negative ratings thanks to you, does that make your happy? Yes, because the "energy" was so tremendous. It took all of about 20 minutes. Nice strawman. As for your negative ratings, do you agree that the trust system is broken? Then if so, your rating doesn't matter. If you do not agree, then the rating system is working as intended and your rating is just. In either case, it doesn't matter. But to answer your flawed conclusion... let me ask you this. How many people have seen your biased guide containing all manner of false information? More than 327 I would imagine. So I use you as an example to show a flawed system and you in turn post false information and mislead many more people with your guide. You probably shouldn't talk about ethics. Ergo, the rating system shouldn't matter one iota since BFL will no longer be accepting pre-orders and their entity is "on a good track now, trying to put the past behind." |
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You're the one that is complaining. You want a higher score in that category than you're entitled to at this point, or any other company gets. Ship more, be patient, receive a higher score for this generation.
I'm pointing out your hypocricy and duplicity. If you call that complaining, so be it. I don't really care what you rate BFL on the guide, but please don't mislead newbies and everyone one else by stating that your guide is unbiased and true. There's nothing unbiased or true about it. It's all how you feel about the subject and damn the facts. You complain that BFL misleads people and here you are doing it. Practice what you preach. There was 290,000 members on the forums at the time. You chose Theymos as one. Why was I chosen as one of the other two? Why was it 'convenient' that I was chosen to be bombarded with negative trust out of all those possibilities? You could have chosen abandoned accounts, your own accounts or accounts you'd made purposely for the 'experiment' as you called it. Instead, you chose me. Why?
Why should I not pick someone who is actively and prominently spreading false information? The point is that anyone, no matter how highly or lowly regarded can game the system with ease. Picking an abandoned account that can't defend itself would not prove the point. Picking an account, in this case yours, that would vigorously defend itself and still end up with a shitcan rating illustrates how broken the system is. Or how unbroken it is, perhaps. At least according to Theymos. I am sure you, Bickfailski and I disagree, though. In bold can easily be contributed to all bitcoin miner manufactures, all of which are gaming the system to their advantage to one extreme or another. Unless, that is, BFL is above that, and there's not one iota nefarious activity stemming from their camp. Ironically, this thread directly and indirectly dictates otherwise. Is it safe to assume that a next gen BFL product is about to introduced for pre-orders, hence your recent presence to grace us monumental assholes? |
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Ohhh ChuckBuck... I mean Bicknellski. Did you post with the wrong account? Oopsie! lol
Quick, pull a Garr255 and delete it and pretend it wasn't you, then accuse ME of having sock puppets!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet) A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception. The term, a reference to the manipulation of a simple hand puppet made from a sock, originally referred to a false identity assumed by a member of an Internet community who spoke to, or about, themselves while pretending to be another person.[1] The term now includes other misleading uses of online identities, such as those created to praise, defend or support a person or organization,[2] or to circumvent a suspension or ban from a website. A significant difference between the use of a pseudonym[3] and the creation of a sockpuppet is that the sockpuppet poses as an independent third-party unaffiliated with the puppeteer. Many online communities attempt to block sockpuppets. http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/21ev00/great_but_pricey_cloud_mining_service_you_can/cgctgq8Yes, but you have to have a place to store it, operate it and maintain it as well as pay for power. Not saying $25/GH is a great deal, but you can't compare owning the hardware and operating it yourself to a cloud mining service like Nimbus Mining, since they are two entirely different things. The only thing that's the same about them is that you are hashing... otherwise, Nimbus Mining is infinitely more convenient and easy to use, but you pay for that convenience. Maybe the price will come down soon, who knows. http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/21ev00/great_but_pricey_cloud_mining_service_you_can/cgcwhdtNo, nor will you make the costs of the miner back from mining, so what is your point? You will lose either way. If I just had to mine, for whatever reason, my time is far more valuable than $25/yr per GH, so it would make more sense for me to use a cloud mining service. Fortunately, I do not have any burning need to mine, so I will not be purchasing a cloud mining contract.
Taking on the responsibility of the hardware yourself is great for people with no life/job/family/hobbies/etc... but for those people who have other things to do than to maintain a mining farm, it might make sense. Again, this is all predicated on the fact that one must mine no matter what. Who this hypothetical person is, I have no idea, but it's certainly not me. In the latter bold text, at the time it was penned, it was left to the reading's imagination as to why you had no burning desire to mine nor purchase a cloud mining contract. I can easily site at least two instances where your nitrowolf account on Reddit was asked if you belonged to camp BFL, with both questions ignored. Until I uncovered who nitrowolf was, nobody had a clue it was you, Josh Zerlan, while you all the while defended BFL in every post you penned pertaining to said. |
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Why wouldn't you want to?
Why would i want to? Is that a bovine version of the libertarian manifesto?  "Which one of you towel-heads do I thank for liberating me?" |
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i wanna say thanks to the 2 guys for posting a joke.  i hoped for better cooperation , as the things look no jokes left  common guys and girls give us a push ok ok here is one for starter : 2 guys bump at each other at the market. the younger guy ask the older one : what are you doing here ? older respond : i look for my wife , how does your wife look? the young guy say : she is tall blonde blue eyes and skinny , how does your wife look? the older respond : never mind , let go look for your wife.. the older respond: Where you from? the young guy say: Carolina. the older guy: How long you've known your wife? the young guy say: Since she was born. She's also my sister. old guy: Does your wife have a sister? young guy: Yeah, but she's married to my cousin. You're not from around here are you? old guy: Nope! But I kinda like the place and thinkin' 'bout movin' here. young guy: I see you've been practicin' the accent. old guy: Do what? |
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 Looks like I win the first go round. EDIT: Lucky me! This is post #7. What are the odds? |
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Mark acquired Mt Gox from Jed after Jed did his DD to assure in his mind that MK was a good candidate. Roger's office was across the street from Mt Gox's office, perhaps to keep an eye on the affairs.
In spite of what's penned above, I still consider Roger one of the good guys, but would have no qualms with turning on a dime if the time comes to warrant said steering.
i got nothing agaisnt roger. or autumn. i feel this is all linked to mark karpeles's mischievous nature.. by the domain, i did not mean MTGox.com.. i meant bitcoin.org (satoshi's old website from 2008/9 then passed onto karpeles 2010) That kinda makes sense, bud. |
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wow, another exiting bitcoin-story is coming  Name: MemoryDealers
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Last Active: Today at 03:47:36 AM Goddamn it! We now have to wait - AGAIN - for the second coming of Jesus. Why has he foresaken us?  |
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 "I think this stryker dude's onto me." orCannibalizing the Aeon, Satoshi single-handedly advanced Human computer technology to the point where innovations such as the internet, laptops, barcode readers and Bitcoin were commonplace and taken for granted. Using the notoriety and bitcoins which came along with introducing these technologies, Satoshi constructed a corporate empire called "Bitropolis." |
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autumn managed a fund for her business where alot of it was stored in mtgox. and so did bitinstant. both companies lost alot that day due to karples's antics...
but autumn took it personally.
though i sympathize to the guys at bitinstant, i sympathize more with autumn's family.
as for the 'satoshi' hacker. it has nothing to do with hacking. my belief is that in 2010 'satoshi' handed over the reigns of bitcoin code to other coders like gavin, and the domain names over to mark karpeles.
it was then mark karpeles who kept the login details 'satoshi' gave to him to administrate the domains. thus karpeles would likely have access to reset passwords of the registered email to that domain name, thus able to access the email account
and also like autumn's business and bitinstant... in 2012 bitcoinica had large sums invested in mtgox, which seemed to be the only account that got hacked
summary.. karpeles was a thieving git all along
I've had the pleasure (or misfortune) in speaking to some of Autumn's very close friends and family members, and nary a one embrace the suicide story. A couple even spoke with her a couple days earlier and had no reasons to believe she was Googling the myriad ways to jump off a tower to soar with Singaporean winged creatures. Mark acquired Mt Gox from Jed after Jed did his DD to assure in his mind that MK was a good candidate. Roger's office was across the street from Mt Gox's office, perhaps to keep an eye on the affairs. In spite of what's penned above, I still consider Roger one of the good guys, but would have no qualms with turning on a dime if the time comes to warrant said steering. Time for a little funny (in orange in the first pic in case you missed it):   Bonus laugh:   |
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