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16881  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 12, 2018, 12:57:11 AM
Hey JJG, I just noticed they locked the thread on your post. Ya think they were saying stfu? Tongue
/jk wrong day
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065375.msg47777032#msg47777032

I doubt it.  Seems to be more about your kind of dumbass and petty perspective
16882  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: November 10, 2018, 11:12:47 PM
I would give more merit out if I had more merit.
I think admins should consider increasing sendable merit  amount.

Admin already decided what they were going to do, and of course, members would send out more smerits if they were to have them, but that is the point.  Smerits start with sources, with the initial distribution on 1/24 and half of an smerit for any merit that you receive from another member.  In other words, you are not really saying much of anything with your suggestion that members should get more smerits.  Your point does not address any issue, and seems to be the opposite of what the merit implementation attempts to achieve.


I see many post deserves for  my appreciaton but I would use all my  available merit doing so in few days :O

Why can't you show your appreciation by making a responsive comment to the supposedly "deserving" post?  Why do you need smerits in order to show such alleged appreciation?
16883  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 10, 2018, 11:08:07 PM

I did watch the video (it's about 1 hour long in which Tone Vays interviews Craig Wright).  Sure, it is a bit irksome to listen to CSW, at all.

When I decided to watch the video, I considered that Vays is a sufficiently focused person and that he would attempt to research into matters and to ask probing questions of Wright.  Surely, Vays did a sufficient job to allow Wright to make his various points and also to show some of the nonsense and evasiveness of Wright's points, without getting too distracted by confrontation.  
16884  Economy / Reputation / Re: Who is this micgoossens?? on: November 10, 2018, 09:19:46 PM
[edited out]

 

yeah i know, i am on the edge of sharing sometimes Roll Eyes

but from the moment when i  tattooed the rollercoaster on my arm, is the moment when i show to not give a F*** about much i guess..... Roll Eyes

Surely, your choice.  Whether you truly understand the risk (which I presume that you do) that goes along with the upside of personal bitcoin promotion, when you publish such practices on the forum, you do end up opening up the topic of personal opsec for comment, and in some sense, the topic evolves beyond  you personally - because you have already made such choice.

Furthermore, if you want to advocate that others engage in similar kinds of behaviors (whether wearing hats, or getting tatoos, or driving lambos with personalized BTC related license plates or other markings), that is your choice too, but such advocacy is also likely to spark a decent amount of push back on the forum, too, regarding best practices.. whether on a personal security level or from a bitcoin advertising angle.  I personally know someone who was contemplating marking his boat (that was acquired completely with bitcoin profits) with a marking that says something like:  "gotten from bitcoin," but I discussed the pros and cons of such markings, and the person came to his senses and decided to be more discreet in regards to his own finances.

whatever i do or have done ..... i'm a TRUE BTC'er  and thats most important of all.  

Yes.  A personal choice about what is most important, especially when it comes to your own decisions to wear labels and in what circumstances.

i hope the next time when i have some new GAME list  thing to see some new names after this thread Grin

Seems that you are considering this matter too personally, if you are considering the topic of gams and the topic of wearing of BTC markings to be related.


[=1pt]the guy's that says i have to be a bit carefull are absolutly right and much appriciated, but i think being on the edge is OK.... just don't cross is[size]

I made this related comment larger because it seems to deserve a comment, too.

As you likely realize, there is going to be a lot of variance in perspective in terms of when and how much one person or another will consider lines to be crossed.

btw don't mind me today please, cause i'm out and for me.... saturday isn't about shomer shabbos Smiley but about getting out and be a bit of TOTAL WASTED.

boys cheers on this fine saturday, wear a HAT and be safe......

O.k.  have fun.
16885  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 10, 2018, 08:47:00 PM
Let's just say hypothetically that the BCH fork(s) takes place on November 15 ... then wouldn't bitcoin actually experience upwards price pressures, rather than downwards based on a kind of resolution of some of the uncertainty

I take your point.

In this case I don’t believe there is any uncertainty to play out.   The fork will occur and there will be a hash war between two (or more) forks that few care about.  

BTC might go up due to buying pressure of speculators selling their BCH and buying BTC.  But more likely the entire market will go down a notch when BCH dumps.

Looking at the current uncertain market, If I had a bch bag I would trade it all im for tether and wait until BTC has stabilised more. And then buy Bitcoin.

Didn't you two come out and pack it in last night? Somebody needs to read back the minutes of that meeting... Roll Eyes

Not only is bitcoin a 24/7 dynamism, the issues (and even differing perspectives) are never quite resolved, even when, temporarily, they might seem so.
16886  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 10, 2018, 08:32:56 PM
These forks, Its all a nice big coincidence that will enable some huge bagholders to cash out some coins in a good pump.

I predict a shitstorm after, and some exchanges might go offline or something wile the dump happens trapping loads of people.

I've kind of been thinking that the more clear it is that bcash is a shit project, and if it's crash comes clearly and unambigously, then that would be quite bullish for bitcoin, at least in the short term and perhaps in the longer term.

On the other hand, if the fork remains ambiguous with additional pumps and bullshit shenanigans and lack of clarity, then that will likely drag BTC down with it, or at least hold off bitcoin from raising in price.... which actually seems, currently, like the most likely scenario (though I would love to be pleasantly surprised that another outcome plays out).

For example, if Bcash only dumps from here, and even has a decently large dump before 11/15 - but maybe a blip of a pump on 11/13-11/14 (at some point peeps are going to stop trading and even exchanges will stop the ability to trade bcash too), I would consider ongoing dumps in Bcash and even a kind of resolution to dump after 11/15 to be a bullish sign for bitcoin... seems like a minority scenario, maybe only 30% or lower to play out as such.
16887  Economy / Reputation / Re: Who is this micgoossens?? on: November 10, 2018, 08:20:37 PM
I am kind of thinking that without necessarily creating different forum accounts, each of us has an ability to create our on-line persona, and maybe even to start over?  

Of course, each of us has our personal predilections, too.  For example, quite frequently I receive suggestions about how I should or could modify my online personality in one way or another that might be more satisfying to some others, and other readings into my online persona as if my online persona is equivalent to my in real life persona.

Of course, there is going to be some overlap, but there certainly can be abilities in the non-meat space, when not distracted by the actual meat.   Cheesy Wink
While I may have the ability to create an online personality, I choose to be a reflection of who I am IRL. And even though I may have some personal personality traits to work on, I generally try not to alter my personality or character based on the suggestions of others wanting to be appeased... this sounds like a politician.. or a comedian. Smiley

I am pulling your chain a bit, and largely my suggestion remains that people cannot really know, with any degree of certainty, the extent to which the online personality of any of us matches with our in real life personality(ies).

My practice has not been any kind of attempt to hide behind the pseudo-anonymity of my on-line personality; however, I have become a bit more comfortable with the passage of time, to play around with such dynamic - so there has been some evolution of my approach, rather than my starting out in a particular way and sticking with it.

Actually, I do appreciate the variety of personas in this space, including the pseudo-anonymity of most of the forum accounts, the public outedness of other persons in the space, even while there is a certain value to looking someone in the face to figure out whether to trust that person more or less with personal information.

The longer that any of us is in the bitcoin (or crypto) space, the more likely we have a combination of relationships, and even discretionary privacy, and my go to answer for people, in real life, who ask me how much BTC I own (upon their first finding out that I am interested in bitcoin) is to ask them a similar question about how much gold they have and how much money they have in their bank accounts.  Usually, the common sense of the inquisitive person will "get it" after just one response from me (in form of a question), but a few of them are stubborn and say that they are ready, willing and able to be transparent about their bank accounts and their other assets. 

My subsequent response, without actually asking the inquisitive person to reveal any of their personal financial details, is that likely they do not have very much to lose if they are willing to disclose such personal financial information (implying that it should be private).  For the most part, I have not had to pursue such conversations of sharing personal financial information beyond that point, yet my general disposition, at that point, becomes to outwardly acknowledge that I am dealing with an inquisitive person who cannot control his/her own level of snoopiness about a topic that they should respect as being private.  So even, if some people want to disclose their own personal finances, seemingly because they want you to reciprocate, to some degree I may be willing to listen to so of their personal information that they want to disclose, and usually, I put a certain level of skepticism in their degree of openness which causes me more skepticism about sharing any of my actual personal information with them (whether financial or otherwise), unless I want the information to leak (which seems likely when dealing with that kind of person).
16888  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: November 10, 2018, 07:52:02 PM
On the last complete week (29/10/2018..04/11/2018), the sMerit distribution was of 3.321. That represents a noticeable drop in weekly sMerit distribution, being 24,28% down from the previous week. It’s the second all-time weekly low (the lowest was 3.186 sMerits the week of the 27th of August). I hope we’re not on the verge of another worrying descending trend …



Note: Ignore the data for the current Week (05/11/2018 .. 11/11/2018), since it corresponds to a partial week (data only aggregates four days and a few hours of Friday).



I think what happened around September 15, theymos both added new merit sources and he tweaked the quantity of the smerits of already existing sources at the same time, which caused a resetting of the smerits of the already existing merit sources (and therefore a kind of lump sum of smerits got airdropped into the smerit accounts of sources). 

Likely the merit sources front spent their smerits, and therefore ran out of smerits just prior to the 15th of the subsequent month (which would have been October 15) and therefore this month as well running out of smerits prior to November 15. 

It could take a few months to flatten out the smerit replenishment, unless theymos throws everyone monitoriing the system for a loop and tweaks smerits again... hahahahahaha.
16889  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 10, 2018, 05:27:48 AM
Sentiment is running comparatively high.  Which may be a contra-indicator.  First time I have seen it neutral.



Perhaps another indication of 50/50... which supports the uncertainty until 11/16-ish thesis that I already mentioned?  and some progression towards willingness to be bullish and that the btc bottom is already in?  I am not opposed to any contra-indicator thesis, though.
16890  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 10, 2018, 05:25:57 AM
Let's just say hypothetically that the BCH fork(s) takes place on November 15 ... then wouldn't bitcoin actually experience upwards price pressures, rather than downwards based on a kind of resolution of some of the uncertainty

I take your point.

In this case I don’t believe there is any uncertainty to play out.   The fork will occur

That's a pretty strong assertion, right there.

I suggested a greater than 70% chance that a Bcash hardfork(s) would occur, and you are asserting that such outcome is closer to 100%.  Sure, I am willing to come up a bit, and maybe I lack information and lack confidence, but I also know that there are a bunch of trickster fuckwads who are playing around, and likely a lot of the decision to fork or not remains in the hands of only a few players (perhaps dimwit Craig Wright and a few others on that particular team could decide, yay or nay.  You really put it past those scammers to NOT be playing the situation?  and pull some last minute resolution (or temporary resolution) out of their hats (or asses?)?

and there will be a hash war between two (or more) forks that few care about.  

Yes.  The better scenario for everyone would be that the fork happens, and the totality of dimwits get sucked into further irrelevancy - but the world usually does NOT pass by with such rosie and clear outcomes.  Sure, it could happen, and maybe decent odds for such, but far from clear from my perspective, anyhow.

BTC might go up due to buying pressure of speculators selling their BCH and buying BTC.  But more likely the entire market will go down a notch when BCH dumps.

This is getting more into the 50/50 territory, as far as I can see, even from your description, and when I am seeing anything approaching 50/50 then that has an air of uncertainty, at least regarding the way I see things.  So, I conclude uncertainty in the market and even uncertainty in which way the BTC price goes, as well as the rest of the market.  Maybe in terms of the affect on bitcoin there is a kind of bullish bias in me and a bit of a bearish bias in you which kind of replicates how we had already been inclined prior to the nearing of this bcash hard fork battle matter?
16891  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 10, 2018, 01:30:49 AM
I bought some bitcoin over spot price but the guy assured me it was purchased before the BCH split so I'm now sitting on these pre-fork coins.

Totally going to take advantage of the split.

wait...what?

Yeah... I don't think it works like that.

You cannot receive both the Bcash and the Bitcoin from prefork coins unless they are sent in separate transactions.  The guy still has the bcash in his old account, and he has to send you the bcash separately for your seemingly devious little plan to work.  Somebody want to say that I am wrong?

 Obviously he purchased the private keys from a trusted source Wink

Surely a puzzling situation, and that's why we cannot have nice things.  

Some supposed "trusted source" is going to screw things up, and hopefully the amount lost (and/or the lesson learned) did not cost too much?
16892  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 10, 2018, 12:59:01 AM
I bought some bitcoin over spot price but the guy assured me it was purchased before the BCH split so I'm now sitting on these pre-fork coins.

Totally going to take advantage of the split.

wait...what?

Yeah... I don't think it works like that.

You cannot receive both the Bcash and the Bitcoin from prefork coins unless they are sent in separate transactions.  The guy still has the bcash in his old account, and he has to send you the bcash separately for your seemingly devious little plan to work.  Somebody want to say that I am wrong?
16893  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2018, 08:49:10 PM



 Wink  Tongue

Difficult to keep up with you fucks.
16894  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2018, 08:37:18 PM
https://bitcoinnews.com/lawyer-claims-bakkt-can-bypass-approval-for-physical-bitcoin-futures/

"The reason the Bakkt physical Bitcoin futures are important is that they would allow institutional investors to buy Bitcoin in a safe and regulated way on major stock trading platforms. The futures settle the same day and investors receive actual Bitcoin in their accounts, unlike the cash settled futures in Chicago. Market demand for the physical Bitcoin futures is expected increase demand on Bitcoin spot markets, which could possibly lead to a major Bitcoin price increase."


More or less the article seems to be saying that BAKKT is proceeding without complete regulatory approval because BAKKT is of the tentative believe that it does not need regulatory approval based on its plan to 100% back any BTC that are put into the daily bets and settled at the end of each day.
16895  Economy / Reputation / Re: Who is this micgoossens?? on: November 09, 2018, 08:22:43 PM
just gonna share here as well : THE HAT-GANG


Haha. Looks like goose threw me out of the hat gang 'cause I wanted to wear mine on my head. C'est la guerre.

Word to the seekers: WO has a probably the highest concentration of merit sources on the board. And some reward in proportion to chuckles.

Surely, you are not knocking "chuckle criteria" since you have mentioned chuckle as one of your own smerit sending criteria on at least a couple of occasions, if my memory serves me well (which usually it does serve me sufficiently decent when it comes to stalking the jbreher... hahahhahahhaa)
16896  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2018, 08:15:47 PM
Aww fuck I just checked the price when did we dip down and how did I not notice?

Do you guys think this could be related to the SEC / Etherdelta case and the fact that the SEC said it would take a closer look at other exchanges ?

No it’s just the BCH pump starting to unwind.  We might get one more pump out of it by the 15th but it should be mostly finished.  Tears and recriminations can come later.  

I would target 62xx or 61xx on 16 November. 

You think people are converting BTC to BCH ahead of their shit fork to get their free shitcoin’s & then convert back into BTC to increase their BTC stashes?

I thought about converting 1 or 2 BTC into BCH ahead of the fork to try & be clever but I just don’t want to fuck about & risk it.

Yeah... don't let greed get in the way of prudence, because you never know which way any of the nonsense is going to go in the shitcoin space, either short term or even medium term - even though chances remain pretty decent that the vast majority of shit coins will go near or close to zero, but it could take 20years to play out such recognition of their fundamental quasi-vaporware bullshitness.. which is not the amount of time or energy that you should be spending on such bets.. when you have much more positive and solid energy in bitcoin and the various projects built around bitcoin.
16897  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2018, 08:08:16 PM
Aww fuck I just checked the price when did we dip down and how did I not notice?

Do you guys think this could be related to the SEC / Etherdelta case and the fact that the SEC said it would take a closer look at other exchanges ?

No it’s just the BCH pump starting to unwind.  We might get one more pump out of it by the 15th but it should be mostly finished.  Tears and recriminations can come later.  

I would target 62xx or 61xx on 16 November. 

Let's just say hypothetically that the BCH fork(s) takes place on November 15, as anticipated.  Surely, that is not a unreasonable hypothesis, and it seems to have greater than a 70% chance of happening, based on current posturings (I am kind of assuming that there is enough backing of faktoshi to actually follow through with his bombastic nonsense).

Then, if such fork really happens, then wouldn't bitcoin actually experience upwards price pressures, rather than downwards based on a kind of resolution of some of the uncertainty - especially seeing how it plays out. 

On the other hand, if the fork does not happen, the such nonhappening might not bring as much certainty, unless there is a clear indication that such fork(s) have been cancelled rather than postponed.  Then also such nonhappening of bcash forks might cause pompening of bcash - as if, all of a sudden bcash has acquired some street cred and actual fundamental value - beyond enduring as a mess of an amalgamation of effervescent disgruntles.
16898  Economy / Reputation / Re: Who is this micgoossens?? on: November 09, 2018, 07:44:02 PM
Why not both?

If I'm understanding the question correctly, social norms and stereotypes, of course. Cheesy  (.. not that I would agree with them.)

It's obvious to me that the nerds are, generally speaking, the cool ones. There are bad nerds though, even on this forum. I was merely responding to pugman's separation of them.

The point being: Even when factoring in social norms/stereotypes, I'd still choose nerd, any day of the week.... except on Saturday's.. I'm Shomer Shabbos. I don't work, I don’t drive a car, I don't fucking ride in a car, I don’t handle money, I don't turn on the oven, and I sure as shit won't be fucking picking between nerds and "cool boys". Shomer Shabbos!!  Grin

I am kind of thinking that without necessarily creating different forum accounts, each of us has an ability to create our on-line persona, and maybe even to start over? 

Of course, each of us has our personal predilections, too.  For example, quite frequently I receive suggestions about how I should or could modify my online personality in one way or another that might be more satisfying to some others, and other readings into my online persona as if my online persona is equivalent to my in real life persona. 

Of course, there is going to be some overlap, but there certainly can be abilities in the non-meat space, when not distracted by the actual meat.   Cheesy Wink
16899  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis on: November 09, 2018, 03:23:33 PM
Things aren't looking so good anymore Undecided

You referring to alts or to bitcoin, or to both?

I would not mix up short term dynamics with long term bitcoin prospects and if we stick with bitcoin, things seem to be looking good, even with some of the various ongoing short terms shake ups, including our ongoing current correction down from $19,666 to our current location bouncing around in the supra $6k price area.
16900  Economy / Reputation / Re: Who is this micgoossens?? on: November 09, 2018, 03:20:10 PM
I love it! Thank you very much Cheesy It really looks like it's printed on fabric.
I wanted to shower you with Merit, but since your post is mainly interesting for me and not for others, I managed to resist the urge.
Oh great, you WO guys took my own alt and turned it into one of yours. Now he's ditching the nerd squad, and joining the cool boy squad. Great.

Won't be surprised if he next starts ditching meta and gets into WO discussions. Thanks Vod, for bringing this micgoossens to light, which has now led to my alt ditching the squad.  Angry

The "cool boy" squad and the "nerd" squad?  Roll Eyes
I'd choose the nerd squad any day of the week.




Why not both?

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