Someone start some shit.
Or make a poorly supported argument.
Or, tell me ASICMINER is going to double or triple.
Your mom is gonna double!  rofl I think daily dividends is a terrible idea, since it will introduce much more variance, which is usually very bad for confidence. Why on Earth are so many people supporting that? |
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fatto sta che non possono fregare te
Sì i soldi ti arrivano, ma se poi ti arriva anche una denuncia non è che ci hai guadagnato molto... |
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You should always compares btc to fait or dollar to find out the real costs and go from there. Can you used btc to buy food at carefour in china or one of the herbal shop in china?
Wrong. A miner is a device that basically creates BTC. If you pay it with BTC, you are paying some BTC now to get more BTC in future. The relative price of BTC to other currencies is almost irrelevant, i.e. it matters only because you do not pay electricity in BTC, but that is a small % compared to the cost of the miner itself. |
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il miglior sistema è farsi pagare per primi ovvio
comunque non eviti le truffe incrociate |
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My parents don't want me to get a job.
Now I don't get it any more. First they want you to manage to get a loan, which is great. But then they don't want you to get a job, which would provide the money you need... wtf? Well they want me to get a loan because it will help me learn by being responsible. However, they believe that a job will take away from my school work and my ability to focus on school and as a result they don't want me to get a job. Make sense? It sounds like it makes sense, but it doesn't. It's utter bollocks. Why lend to someone who doesn't even expect to have future income? +1 |
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Questa non l'ho capita: come comprano bitcoin con la tua carta? E se li vendono ricaricandoti che ci guadagnano?
Sara' che sono abituato a localbitcoins dove e' tutto escrowed.
Dalla sua spiegazione non era chiaro, ma credo che si riferisse a truffe incrociate come quella avvenuta di recente, dove loro fanno un trade con te dove ti pagano, e un trade con un altro utilizzanto te come tramite inconsapevole. Ecco qui, anche se devo dire che il segnalatore è quantomeno sospetto, dunque prenderei tutto con le pinze... |
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My point is still valid. Changing the difficulty isn't really contributing with something new.
I'm all for creating alt-coins for learning purposes. I have done so myself, for learning purposes. With emphasis on learning purposes.
Pushing a half-assed coin to the public is done for no other reason than trying to make money off of people wanting to be " early adopters " on the " next big thing ". It won't happen. It will only end in a few early adopters, and the creator, dumping their massive premine ( even though it's not premine, it's pretty much a premine if you're the first one to start mining it ) for a great profit, and a few morons losing actually valuable coins in the process.
It's a well known process to most on here by now, seeing as it's happening every day.
I will continue being an asshole if it prevents people from posting shitcoins on here, for the betterment of the entire community.
Well said, I totally agree. |
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They should also all stop this nonsense of reporting and paying dividends weekly, it is a distraction and is not done in 'the real world' for a good reason i.e. income volatility and it's a waste of time.
Nonsense. In a risky business such as Bitcoin I can't trust anyone for a long period, hence I demand fast and abundant revenues in order to be interested. |
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rischi, molti:
1- il grosso volume di movimenti richiamerebbe il fisco che ti farebeb una visita, e poi ti inviterebbe a farti una partita iva e pagare le tasse, o magari troverà qualche altra cosa da farti pagare
2- truffe, i truffatori mettono annunci di vendite sui vari forum, poi quando li contatti danno il numero della tua postepay e i bitcoin li incassano loro, nel giro di breve ti ritrovi con decine di denunce per truffa a tuo carico, e doversi anche solo andare a difendere in tribunale costa parecchio.
3- riciclaggio, molte persone usano codici fiscali rubati o falsi per fare le ricariche postepay e riciclare denaro, i controlli in fase di ricarica sono scarsi, mai ti chiedono un documento oltre al codice fiscale specie se ricarichi dal tabaccaio.
Rischi quindi di venire invischiato in processi per riciclaggio.
4- rischio che le poste blocchino la carta vedendo numerosi movimenti da ogni parte d'italia
Ok tutti ottimi punti in effetti (a parte il quarto, che se la svuoti regolarmente non è un problema). |
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There is no law against holding your money if you don't give them ID.
{{citation needed}} There is a law? Wait, where? {{citation needed}} Are you insane? Do you think there is not a law agains you holding my money? Like, in, I don't know, theft? Either there is a specific clause claiming you can hold my money, or you are breaking the law. |
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The reason given was due to Mt Gox's association with Liberty Reserve, who are undergoing investigations surrounding drug trafficking finances.  Wait, in what sense is Mt Gox associated with Liberty Reserve? The only relationship between the two is every time anyone in the media talks about Liberty Reserve they inexplicably have to bring up bitcoin at the same time.
AFAIK, MtGox accepted LR deposits many many years ago. |
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There is no law against holding your money if you don't give them ID.
{{citation needed}} |
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One question : WHY this coin ? What does it add ?
It's a fast coin. 35 seconds, long enough to eliminate orphans/stales, but still fast enough to provide quick transactions. It has a smaller block reward, to prevent saturation of the market, allowing it to hold value well, but not so small, as to require insanely small transactions, to the 6th decimal place. It has an active, dedicated Dev. I'm here to answer all questions, and help anyway I can. This is created for the love of Crypto Currency. I'm not looking to get rich, just learn and have fun with it. I am not a programmer, so, the creation of this coin, has been a fun learning experience, and I just wanted to share my creation.  If you weren't "looking to get rich," you wouldn't have a 108k premine while giving away less than 4k in bounties. If you were an actual developer, you'd have developed something. Changing some numbers doesn't make you a "dev". If you really loved cryptocurrecy, you'd be mining one that isn't a shitcoin and helping to secure its network [instead of releasing shitcoins]. +if you were a real dev, you would be posting with your account, instead of creating a dedicated one. |
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Ah but he doesn't say that there is no-one with read-only access to his account. Makes sense or else nothing could be done if he had a sick day.
I'm not aware of any forum software supporting such a feature. |
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If you order from BFL now you risk that they will have their asses sued of them by everyone who ordered a Minirig. Which never shipped and the replacement product has 1/3 the hash power and is 3 times as expensive. I wouldn't pre-order from a company with such an uncertain future no matter how good their product is.
(emphasis added)how good is "nothing"? From another post:
"...It truly amazes me that Co's lie ASICMINER or SDICE, who roll around in thousands of BTC (hundreds of thousands of EUR) can not find a bookkeeper, who is capable compiling a proper P/L, C/F and the the balance sheet. All I can say is: "WTF!"
For f*** sake people, AM guys managed to design and manufacture the first ASIC chip and distribute it all around the world but can not find a little chink lady to do the numbers for them? Seriously?"
This bothers me a bit, but as long as the yield is so high, it is part of the equation. |
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The recent push in price is because people are realizing that there is nowhere left in the land of Bitcoin to park your coins right now except in ASICMINER. Everything else on the market is just mental masturbation or else is charging a management fee to buy ASICMINER shares on your behalf. I don't see that changing over the near to medium term. GPU miners are packing it in and buying shares as these dividends are as close as the common man will get to mining from here on out. PMBs are a joke - if you're not making the chips, you won't get them until they're irrelevant.
+1 (though I disagree with the rest of that post) Now there are obviously several problems with this explanation:
@chkgk is right: 25% yield is definitely too low for such a risky business: for such a (relatively) small yield I would expect much more transparency. I'm still quite optimistic and I'm not going to sell my shares, but I'm not buying much more either. |
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This thread is really great for populating the ignore list!
A pity we can't have categories or notes, so that I won't know why I did put someone there... :/
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Agree on that, see my previous post.
True, my bad, for some reason I totally missed that post... |
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Stop feeding the troll for fuck's sake!!!
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LOL, calm down... Get a refund, sell it on gox before it's too late and buy some happy miners with a sure negative ROI for sport later, just like i (and many others, i suppose) plan to do...
I think it's already too late, I don't see how this refund thing will be immediate, and double digits are knocking hard at Gox's door. Still, you paid in BTC and you'll get a BTC refund, so no issue there... |
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