Altrimenti accadrebbe quello che è successo ai POKERISTI...sono andati ingiro per il mondo a fare tornei e chi ha vinto qualcosa (con già le tasse detratte nella nazione ove ha vinto) si trova oggi costretto a dare il 43% allo stato. Senza contare le spese sostenute (viaggi, vitto, alloggio, quote di iscrizione ai tornei) e comunque tenendo conto solo dei tornei vinti........mentre un poker player ne gioca almeno 1-5 al mese ed arriva a premio 2/3 all'anno
Oddio, terribile! |
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Please elaborate on your reasons for suspicion for those of us who are not so savvy.
He's just the owner of a trick site which scams gamblers, disregard him. |
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Confermo che la stampa e la successiva scansione del documento è la via per la redenzione!
Il che mi fa perdere molta fiducia nei loro confronti... |
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This is much fun: if you find a burglar in your apartment you kindly ask him if he's lost, and if he can kindly put down your laptop, because he must certainly be mistaken: it's yours, not theirs, but that's an understandable mistake.
Lol you're so fun.
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But the current default trust people gain financially from said trust so it's not likely they will just drop it and exchange it for a bright red warning sign.
Reality contradicts you. TradeFortress did just that. pirate40 basically did the same, even if that's before this system AFAIK. Once you reach a certain theresold of money you can steal, if you're a thief you will steal it, and that's just that. |
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People would soon ignore the "Trade with extreme caution!" if they saw it on every account. It would no different than everyone having zero trust, like it is now.
(first, "now" it is not zero for every account, because there is DefaultTrust) And... that would be fine. Unless you plan to physically send a guy to every user's home to check what he is doing, you can't prevent someone from hurting themselves. You can warn them, though. But this is not about 0 vs. -1 base trust, this is about removing this insane DefaultTrust, after it has been shown so eloquently and spectacularly how it is dead wrong. |
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Everyone focuses on the guy who spent, try to focus more on those who received...
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And then what dank? We have to follow you around to every thread you post in Newbies, warning people you have stolen close to $10,000? Too much work.
With DefaultTrust: - some scammers will be labeled as trustworthy, free to scam people - people denuncing them will be labeled as scammers Without DefaultTrust, and -1 base trust: - everyone is "untrusted, trade with extreme caution" by default, so you should always be wary (as you actually should) - if you actually really trust someone, you add him and you inherit his trust list I fail to see how you are missing that yet  |
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LTC is dieing admit that or not. It is value cuz it is a first alt coin but ppl are abbandoning it
Only, it's not even the first alt coin. Nor the first to use its hashing function, btw. |
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12 months ago I donated 10 BTC to you to make a new forum. You have since then collected over 6000 BTC and continue to collect on a regular basis, under the guise of "creating a new forum", yet you have yet to create a new forum.
Please present a status report of your progress in the past 12 months with creating the forum. Thanks.
I haven't followed this in details, but I would just like to point out that this forum is partly responsible for the TradeFortress' scam, since he was in DefaultTrust list, so if there is a huge pile of unspent funds, they might be donated towards the people who got robbed... |
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Are you saying that as a fact or a possibility? If you were intimidated to leave negative trust for fear of retaliation isn't that about as good an indicator as any that it's not working?
That's exactly what we are saying. BTW it's a fact: I did check TradeFortress' trust, and noticed that many people who gave him a negative feedback got one back from him, and since he was in DefaultTrust they were basically marked as scammers when what they actually did was quite the opposite. And that's why I posted this thread instead of giving him a negative feedback. I'm not saying that theymos was actively an accomplice, but he was likely social-engineered/blackmailed into putting him in DefaultTrust, and this is the result. The least he could do is putting an and to this INSANE system, since it only benefits the scammers. (hint: actually if he wanted to do something more, unless I'm mistaken this forum holds a huge amount of unspent BTC from "donations"... how huge is that pile?) |
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I understand where you are coming from, but I think the benefits far outweigh the negatives. Maybe limit DefaultTrust to those who have done a lot of business on the forum? That wouldn't have helped in TF's case however.
There is no better way to warn newbies of ongoing scammers than the current trust system.
Yes there is: having a base trust of -1 instead of 0 towards everyone. After all, you shouldn't trust random people. Then, if you manually chose to trust someone, well, it's your own action instead of a default. |
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Worked great for TradeFortress. Guess he won't scam anymore...  Interesting point. If you could turn back time, how would you change the system so that wouldn't happen? I believe most of the people that left him positive feedback had traded with him already. I'd remove DefaultTrust? |
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100% scam. no divs paid. alberto ignores all communication. alberto self mining. alberto committing money laundering. fabrizio relieved himself of all criminal activity.
it truly is time to contact HK / Shenzhen / Italian authorities. the more people who file complaints the more seriously they will take this and faster action
and yet, nobody will do it. |
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As it stands, it's largely a judgement system.
One that works well. You scammed. People noticed. Now you can't scam again. Worked great for TradeFortress. Guess he won't scam anymore... |
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A potentially better alternative to handling trust is to force it to use risked BTC
Doesn't work for two reasons: 1. how many BTC I have or invest is my own business, I'd rather leave no feedback than being "forced" to state how much (privacy, remember?) 2. enforcing would be a huge waste of resources. I do mean huge. |
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It's sad how easy is to scam people.
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What annoys me now. Is although being active is not responding to anyone. Not responding to emails or here at the forum. That makes me more suspicious than ever.
More than when he stole 4100 BTC, more than when he arbitrarlily closed down coinlenders, containing user's money? |
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Of course LTC is Alive and kicking strong. Lock at all the haters who keep posting. If its already dead you dont need to waste your time and energy trying to make it go away.
Lol @strong, the delusion is strong in this one. |
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When will people learn there are no elliot waves in bitcoin.
They never learn to avoid obvious scammers, nor to stop pulling idiocies out of their asses, let alone green dragons with red hair. |
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