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1701  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: What do you think about the "Iceberg Order"(or the hidden order) on: March 17, 2019, 02:01:23 PM
I remember watching Bitfinex's order book live for like an hour during the first major correct in January of 2018. Massive dumps in the range of 1000-5000BTC were absorbed without there being a bid wall at all.

I really believed it was Bitfinex being shady to keep the price up, but it seems that the dumps were absorbed by hidden bid walls. It's a pretty neat feature looking at how it works right now.

The thing is that order books are always subject to manipulation. It's either full of fake walls that have been stacked up to mislead people, or it's near empty to mislead people. Large players are better off using OTC desks.
1702  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: For which exchanges is KYC required? on: March 17, 2019, 01:14:20 PM
Some decentralized exchange requires no KYC but liquidity is a problem.
Some? All decentralized exchanges don't ask for personal information. If they do, then it's not a decentralized exchange, but a centralized exchange. The whole purpose of these exchanges is to not deal with central entities anymore.

I do however agree on the liquidity being a major hindrance in terms of being more adopted. This is where tokens on Ethereum are doing well. It's super easy to switch from token to token since everything runs on the same platform.
1703  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-03-13] Accepting bitcoin without a payment gateway on: March 16, 2019, 11:32:48 PM
But I do agree. Building your own gateway is bettah... BTCPay is a good move away from the silliness of Bitpay.
I wish that merchants looking to accept Bitcoin were aware of how toxic BitPay actually is, but they aren't and for that reason will continue to pick BitPay over anything else in the market.

BTCPay needs some more marketing in order to gain the exposure it deserves, but then again, who's marketing something that's open source and free to use? That's what OpenBazaar has to deal with as well.

BitPay has a gigantic stack of money to blow on marketing with backers such as Roger Ver and Bitmain. It's so unfortunate that the wealthiest entities in the space are against the hand that fed them.
1704  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What are the things to be considered when choosing the appropriate exchange for on: March 16, 2019, 11:12:48 PM
If there is any thing to go by, Coinbase is not a good exchange at the moment but we prefer Binance for OP. My experience with Coinbase recently were the had to blocked my account because of what i wasn't told to do.
Coinbase is the most legitimate exchange in the space. It's also the main fiat entry/exit point for millions of people, doesn't matter whether they are short or long term minded. Coinbase is the best in that field.

Not sure why they blocked your account, but the main problem with people running into problems with Coinbase is that they underestimate the nature of a well regulated exchange.

If you read their terms, it would be clear that they don't tolerate certain actions and uses. Admittedly, the majority of the people don't read the terms, but in this day and age of the crypto industry you better do from now on.
1705  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: It's obvious bitcoin is going to have a trillion dollar MC on: March 16, 2019, 10:40:09 PM
So, yes it is very obvious that Bitcoin will have a trillion dollar market cap soon on the charts.
If you really believe that it is obvious that Bitcoin will hit a $1 trillion market cap, then I expect you to dump the majority of your fiat net worth in Bitcoin and don't focus on what's happening in the very short term.

We have so many people here throw with predictions and whatnot, but only a handful of people actually put their money where their mouth is. There is no shortage of keyboard experts making empty predictions....
1706  Economy / Speculation / Re: Does Bitcoin coalesce among whales during the bottom? on: March 16, 2019, 11:44:12 AM
I am sure that the whales are already buying the massive amounts of bitcoin especially in the early of this year.
I haven't seen an indication of that to be honest. Sure, I do believe that whales just like most smaller long term investors are accumulating coins on the way down, but where is the evidence of this 'massive' accumulation?

I think what people tend to overlook is that a lot of the addresses that seem to accumulate coins belong to exchanges or other corporate entities. I think this does indicate speculation rather than accumulation.

The more coins exchanges hold, the more likely it is for people to have them sit there to wait for whatever market move in order to dump or trade them. I'll remain skeptical about this this subject till there is evidence of accumulation.
1707  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin remain above $4000 this time around? on: March 16, 2019, 11:22:16 AM
People shouldn't pay attention to round price levels when we haven't even broken through major resistance levels yet. It could very well drop back to $3700 or lower in case of a rejection, and this is more likely than a firm $4000 mark.

The thing here is that people have continuously been disappointed by what the market did in the last 15 months. I rather expect more of the same until we have a clear bottoming confirmation, which we don't have right now.

This of course doesn't mean that the bottom can't be in already, but the trend is what we should focus on, and the trend is super bearish despite the greenish last couple of weeks. Accumulation is what I mainly focus on.
1708  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-03-14] Bitfury Integration to Bring Bitcoin Lightning Payments to More... on: March 15, 2019, 03:48:05 PM
Nevertheless, more adoption news I suppose?
That. It's very difficult to compete with the big boys due to how much of an advantage they have in terms of marketing and web ranking. If you search for it, the first one to pop up is BitPay.

Their terms and everything seem appealing enough to merchants, and their fee is only 1% and not 3-4% in case of credit cards and PayPal. Another thing is that politics involving Bcash isn't known by new entrants.

I welcome every attempt to rip the market open and see fair competition lead to better and cheaper services. The only thing is that these payment processors need to work on is their banking in order to really take over.

BitPay is one of the very few ones that's licensed to actually offer its services to US merchants.
1709  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-03-14] Bitcoin Miner Says Solar Energy Cuts Mining Costs By 75% on: March 15, 2019, 03:22:19 PM
I saw it on Reddit, and to me it really seems that this attention boost is somewhat unnecessary. Today's positive results could turn out to be something you can only dream of a week later. It's too unreliable.

It's clear that the lack of worthwhile content drives news outlets to dedicate whole articles to Tweets and other social media posts. Every smart miner would dig into this regardless of mining being very or barely profitable.
1710  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp Are Down - But Bitcoin is as strong as ever !!! on: March 15, 2019, 09:29:15 AM
Centralised control will always be doomed to the occasional failure, so much for their facebook coin which will probably crash as well. Bitcoin hasn't crashed in the last 10 years - excl price ofc
Well, what happened in 2017 with the fees wasn't all that positive, so that could technically be seen as downtime as well. If you wasn't able to pay $30 in fees, you would have to wait over a day for your transaction to confirm.

Admittedly, Ethereum dealt with the same problems, but that doesn't change anything about the fundamental problem that comes with how severely limited decentralized networks are in terms of scalability.

The situation improved for Bitcoin, but still, with enough network congestion we'll be having the same problems. More people entering this space means more network congestion--we're only a bull run away from high fees.
1711  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Karpeles Acquited - wtf? on: March 15, 2019, 08:49:48 AM
When you are a dumb-ass and lose $500 million of other people's money - no matter the charges, if you are alive and kicking you got off scot-free.
Correct. It pays off to mess up like that. Who doesn't want to rot in prison for such a short period of time knowing that you have a stash worth hundreds of millions sitting somewhere securing your future.

Life is unfair. It wouldn't even surprise me if this fat fuck launches another service in the coming years. Maybe he is already major shareholder in whatever service but we don't know it yet, which is the scary part.

Don't leave your funds on centralized platforms peeps....
1712  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price Could Sink to $1,850 Despite Bullish Crypto Momentum on: March 14, 2019, 11:40:50 PM
It may be bearish now but $1850 is just too low that in my opinion doesn't match the previous bottom.
It's not too low if we visit sub $2000 levels and we stay there for months. It's low when we visit sub $2000 levels and we pump straight above it rapidly. We only find out when it actually happens.

The funny thing about people saying that certain levels are low, is that they don't actually use that as an opportunity to buy because they don't think it's low at all. People wanted badly wanted to buy below $10k, where are these people?

It's just the market doing its thing and people go with the flow, which means that they sell what tanks and buy what pumps. Hovering below $4000 means that current levels are NOT low. Accept it.
1713  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is Cheap Until April, We’ll Never See Price at $3,000 Again: Trader on: March 14, 2019, 11:15:30 PM
The market should be more active this time, we need to see bitcoin on top again but we have to wait for that.
When it's active people want it to be stable, and when it's stable people want it to be active. I think Bitcoin is doing fine where it is right now--everything is better than another major leg down.

People will only have appreciation for current "boring" price when it dumps 50%, just like what happened last year. The lack of activity was what people complained about, and here we are today....

I'm happy to accumulate some more coins at current levels, but I'm buying small chunks each time just in case we do get another leg down. I doubt it will drop much further, but you never know.
1714  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bittrex cancelled RAID IEO Offering at the last minute. on: March 14, 2019, 10:20:15 PM
Disagree with your point. As far as I know Bittrex never show fake volume and that's why we are thinking that is small exchange. They don't pump dump themselves like Binance but do you think it is a good practice. Pump dump better for whales only, I don't like pump dump. Mostly small traders lose their fund like us on their pump dump HYIP scheme. At this point I think better Bittrex for small traders. 
Bittrex used to be the main pump and dump platform before they started to close and freeze accounts. It was the number one exchange for a while based on volume, and now it's Binance.

I doubt that Binance is faking volumes, because they don't need it. It's the most popular platform out there where people trade because the rest of their internet buddies trade there. Who trades on Bittrex?

I don't like pumps and dumps either, which is why I don't participate in them, but hundreds of thousands of other traders do like them, and the best place for this is Binance right now.
1715  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Crypto Trading in CFDs on: March 14, 2019, 09:53:18 PM
CFD is definitely an option. However, there is no CFD broker that offer 1:100 in leverage for cryptocurrencies. It has been reduced to 1:2 to maximum leverage for crypto by the serious actors like eToro, Markets, Plus500 and Avatrade.
For the sake of people not burning themselves on mad leverage multipliers, it's amazing to see the more reputable platforms only offer low to acceptable leverage multipliers.

Crypto is super risky on its own already, and people are looking to add even more risk by going x50 or even x100 on BitMEX. It's retarded, especially within a market that has no serious depth levels during its current bear cycle.

From crypto being a risky asset class people have gone to crypto being a boring asset class. 100x leverage is purely the result of supply and demand. We didn't have this back in 2013/2014....
1716  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-03-07] Antalya Homes Accepts Bitcoin for Property Sales in Turkey on: March 14, 2019, 12:30:16 AM
Yup. When fiat fails, another alternative would rise and people will start using it. It might start very slow but sooner or later I think we will meet a balanced demand and supply which cause Bitcoin or other crypto to be more stable, but of course this also depends on whether the fist system is healthy or not. If anybody use Bitcoin to judge a price of a thing then there's no problem at all with volatility. Problem is, that's almost impossible.
Stablecoins offer much better value for money as currency and payment option than any of the currently existing crypto currencies. People might not like to read this, but this is the reality.

The only downside of the most popular stablecoins is that they operate on easy to cripple networks, being Bitcoin and Ethereum. By the time we're going through the next mania even these stablecoins will turn into bad currencies.

Unless there is a way to shift USDT to LN and have the whole process of transacting and settlement be instant, there is little that any crypto currency will bring to the table as being a useful local fiat alternative.
1717  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-03-12] Bitcoin ATM Double-Spenders: Police Need Help Identifying Criminals on: March 13, 2019, 10:32:58 PM
How stupid. I can somewhat understand that you don't have to wait for a confirmation when you buy a coffee or a sandwich, but this is something even the worst possible noob doesn't fall for.

It's basic crypto etiquette that you don't accept zero fee transactions as final. In Bitcoin's case one confirmation is the minimum, and in case of certain altcoins multiple confirmations are needed to satisfy me.

When you see whatever entity deploy an ATM you at least expect to deal with people who understand the fundamental basis of Bitcoin. No amount of convenience is worth sacrificing security for....
1718  Economy / Speculation / Re: What brings to crypto? on: March 13, 2019, 01:23:07 PM
Some investor is smart enough to see the opportunity, but the other investor is only following the previous people and pretending that they will make a profit too.
That's the main reason average joes enter the crypto space. It's always a friend or someone at work who's bragging about mad gains, which motivates people to invest in whatever they heard or think is profitable.

That's why the price continues to rush up during bull runs. People actually get the profits they are looking for, till the bull run ends and suddenly people start panic selling. It's quite interesting how the psychology here works.

Overall, greed is the main driver for everything that represents crypto. If the market is boring long enough, even the most firm 'believers' of the tech get bored and start complaining about the lack of market activity.
1719  Economy / Economics / Re: Europe's new plan: to give more free money to banks on: March 13, 2019, 09:52:29 AM
Printing new money is the only thing they know when the economy tanks. This great strategy has destroyed the lives of many in venezuela who then turned to bitcoin Wink
Printing money is shit, but in this case it's not printing money that made Venezuela sink deep, but the greed and mismanagement of one single person. Maduro is an incompetent bastard that shouldn't be in that position.

Every country prints money, but the way you do it makes the difference. Based on how hard you suck as government, you try to compensate that by filling up the gaps you didn't manage to fill up because of your incompetence.

Admittedly, the sanctions against Venezuela make it more difficult to be competitive on the global market, but still, the way Venezuela is fucked up is only the result of the shitty government there and nothing else.
1720  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto Vs Lotto on: March 13, 2019, 08:33:07 AM
If you want something with much better odds than playing government run lotteries you can solo mine and try to get lucky on finding a bitcoin block yourself.  The expected odds are vastly superior to playing the lottery.
Bitcoin is the wrong coin in that regard. You with a high probability will never find a block on your own. For argument same, even if you mine a block, the power it took you to mine it makes you still lose badly.

If you said Ethereum or Litecoin, coins that you can mine with your GPU rig, things would be different. But then again, finding blocks is also based on luck, because you're not the only small fish trying to be lucky and mine a block.

Overall, looking at how people "invest" or "trade" in crypto, it's fair to say that it's quite similar to gambling. No TA, no fundamental analysis, no understanding of the protocols, and so forth. People are flipping a coin....
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