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...and I make two.
This whole "everyone will dump coins" hypothesis doesn't seem too solid
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I wouldn't buy a list where all the fish had already been deleted  edit: or perhaps this is how you get *on* the list! |
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Interesting, could mean a return of 0.11-0.23BTC on the goxcoin. Depending on how fat the lawyers cut is |
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steady on son, this is no time for rational discourse! there is a conspiracy afoot, and now you sound like one of them!!! |
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How high is the possibility we will break into 400´?
No chance. If you are lucky you might get the chance to buy a little dip into the mid 500's, but all that will be is confirmation that the bottom was indeed in (sig) I stand by this hard. |
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The expert claims that in some cases banks have lent out TEN TIMES as much money as they actually have.
Yes. Is that meant to be a surprise to anyone? Anyone here? Or anyone reasons the Sun? |
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Next stop, the red tops. Then the fireworks really begin.
You think The Sun is going to run a headline economic theory article? Yes. This stuff is really easy to sensationalise, and requires no actual understanding of economic theory. The Guardian article is already halfway there. The Sun, well.... BANK B*STARDS BUSTED!!!
Today an expert from the Bank of England came out to reveal the shocking truth. Banks have for years been loaning out money they don't have, and have been INVENTING it to make profits!
The expert claims that in some cases banks have lent out TEN TIMES as much money as they actually have. That means only one in ten Sun readers actually has real money in their account! The other nine of you might not have any, it's pot luck! He also said the government have known the banks can just invent money for years, but have instead been looking to the tax payer to fund their party political parties!
... more hyberbole, loose implication of foreigners, righteous indignation, we are all in it together, finishing with a 'call to action' ...
Have you got any money in the Bank? Why not take part in our "readers run" and really stick it to the bankers! OO-ER.
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Nice that this info has moved from the dark corners of the internet to the broadsheets. Next stop, the red tops. Then the fireworks really begin. I think now is the best time to sell your BTC and withdraw fiat to cold storage because charts. |
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There are many vultures that find the collapse of MtGox as something exciting and enjoyable.
Please explain to me how this has benefited anyone who owns bitcoin? Yes, we now know that the management and software of MtGox was severely flawed and that must be corrected. But the death of this company, without any possibility of recovery under new management, will not help anyone.
Even the people who did not have their money invested with MtGox have lost value in their bitcoin since MtGox collapsed. Everyone who owns a single bitcoin should support a rapid, but accountable, recovery of MtGox.
They need it to happen so they don't feel butthurt about missing cheap coins if it comes back. |
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1. It's now March 17
2. $15 is a major dip?
Wouldnt be the first time OP failed. lol  I don't really see where the OP failed. We are March 17th and the pennant is breaking to the downside. CRUSHING LOSSES  My streets are bleeding. |
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now surely my comment would not have been deleted unless I was too close to the bone.
only cosmofly can answer that!
she is pretty though, i'll grant you that.
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I noticed that bitfinex was the one exchange that didn't participate in that 'joint statement of bitcoin exchanges after mtgox'
BTC-e did not too. Both those exchanges have allowed early confirmation of BTC transactions. Both these sites had the 100 USD Bitcoin hack. I say hack cos plenty people never got their orders filled. Both these sites have most likely been robbed. Both these sites are running a fractional reserve Bitcoin operation. That is what I reckon anyways. worth noting. for what my opinion is worth. |
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also plz make sure not to disregard the pigeon of opportunity  |
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your chart is pretty informative, I did some secondary analysis on it and its quite revealing...  |
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The problem with your argument, as with so many game theoretic derivations, is that it assumes a "static" setup, and then derives conclusions that are correct for the simplified setup, but not necessarily for reality. In the case under discussion here, I could construct a "meta meta" game where, given enough time, effort and actual ingenuity you could create a flock of followers with an account that allows you to exploit their group behavior, while also keeping track of diminishing returns. Once you become convinced other are onto you, you continue the game with a new account, with a new set of "followers". The previous is not so much a practical suggestion (if you are good enough to gather followers that easy you probably don't need to manipulate to make consistent profits), but to point out that the conclusions drawn in many GT derivations based on a finite set of premises can rather easily be picked apart.
your argument is sound. there isn't much more to be said of the various metastrategies involving inducing other market participants to make a certain action other than the fact that they are unstable. you point out that if you are able to pull off such a dynamic strategy then it is at least feasible to profit from it, however you're doing far more than simple market manipulation at this point. i suppose the limits of my argument are to simply state that the idea that "market manipulation = profits" is not sound under basic game-theoretic formulations of the trading game. edit: also deriveable from my original argument is that this metastrategy is more unstable the more efficient the market is. as such, there is a hard limit to the profitability of the dynamic metastrategy imposed by the cleverness of the other participants enforcing efficiency.--arepo good point. but keep in mind, the discussion started because someone wondered why anyone would "share" his privileged information status. the answer was: to profit from predictable reactions your information sharing causes... but for that to be the justification, one only needs to believe it to be profitable to do so (marginally even, maybe), it does not necessarily have to be significantly profitable. Probably runs down to the question how efficient you believe the market, and how rational you believe market participants, to be. I don't have such high opinions of either of the two (and that includes myself, by the way  ) sounds like game-theory-ception how about i share cos i don't care*. im all in BTC. as ever. hold as much as I can at all times. sell a bit when it goes crazy. buy a bit when it looks bottomy. (*dont think it makes any material difference to the outcome) |
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call me stupid but... - You will supply .25 Bitcoins as collateral to be held in trust.
- I will supply 1 share of Berkshire Hathaway Class B shares (NYSE:BRK.B) to be kept in a brokerage account held in trust. If legal complications arise from holding actual shares, the cash equivalent of the share price will be held in trust. doesn't sound much like the original deal of .... I will provide ~300 Bitcoins or equivalent at current exchange rate. * For Collateral, you will supply 1 Share of Class A. Berkshire Hathaway stock (BRK.A) or Equivalent funds in USD$ (~$183,860) the original bet you win btc for shares, now you win shares for btc. makes no sense. If he was paying out btc I'd bet the farm! WTF do I want BRK-B for if BTC went "to da moon" to win. Although, I suppose it's not so bad sacrificing BTC if it crashes to zero ... It's that sticky middle ground eh. |
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+/- 0.9% over 24 hours. oh the horror.
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Bitcoins in the past 3 months has been one of the worst ways to increase your fiat. In the past week I have seen stocks such as Plug, FNMA, and FCEL increase 2-3x their value in a week and drop that much in a day. These aren't penny stocks either. Mat the fact that you emphasize constantly that you have put your hard earned money into the bitcoin market and is deathly afraid of losing any or all of it is a joke. You are a wanna be day trader that for some reason chose bitcoins as your method of accumulating more fiat. There are better investments out there that can double or triple you money in a day and only happens from 9:30 to 4:00.
Because 3 months is a timescale appropriate for measuring the quality of an investment decision.  |
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Wouldn't it be sensible that someone who speaks Japanese contacts Japanese prosecutors to press criminal charges against Mark Karpeles (at least for lying to the court)? The more we wait the more evidence gets destroyed  That depends if you are more interested in getting your bitcoins or having a pound of flesh. |
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