I've ordered a 2TH/s TerraMiner IV from Cointerra, Inc. It cost roughly 33 BTC, but I'm going to hand this order over to Nasty Mining for a 30 BTC debt to be repaid later. If anyone is against taking over the Cointerra order, please make your concerns known. Otherwise, I will make this order official for Nasty Mining. Also worth noting, NastyFan kroneko expressed an interest to offload his 5 BTC in Nasty Mining debt. I worked a deal with him and used my personal funds to repay this debt for us. |
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Goat, come out and say what you are accusing OgNasty of being or stop with the slurs.
If you do want to know pm me. Traveling this weekend but will get to you during the week.  |
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You should not at all trust it. We have no legitimacy.
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Any way to charge back the BFL stuff?? Would be great to ditch them and use a decent hardware vendor.
I think that would be a mistake. We're most likely in the bullet run and should be receiving something in about a month. However, I'd love to use my personal funds to help us land a Terraminer in January which I think would be a good move... I am just about to place an order for the 1oz silver NastyFans coins, and the rising BTC price might enable me to actually have enough funds leftover to place the Terraminer order soon, but it would help speed things along if someone were able to buy some of my Nasty Mining debt... I'm not exactly happy with BFL, but they do deliver good, quality equipment at the specs they advertise. When they deliver is another story. Hopefully they are getting better with that. And normally I would agree OgNasty on the above. However looking at the numbers, it would probably make sense if we could chargeback a couple of the Monarchs and get a Cointerra 2 TH/s unit or two. I'm sure the numbers I'm going to put out there are not correct due to discounts and such but I'm guessing that it's fairly close.. 9 (I think) BFL Monarchs @ about $4,680 each = $42,120 for a total of 5.4 TH/s 7 Cointerra 2 TH/s units @ $5,999 = $41,993 for a total of 14 TH/s (8.6 TH/s more) for the same $ Other factors: - Like I said, I may not have used the correct numbers
- I don't know Cointerra's reputation. Have they delivered on time before?
- IF BFL delivers the bullet run mid november AND Cointerra delivers in January then we're talking about 2 - 3 months before we get the gear which means around 6-7 or so difficulty adjustments.
- Could we even get the full amount back from BFL?
Anyway, please ignore my ignorance in a number of the factor that I've put out there. If I'm incorrect or have facts wrong, please correct me. It's just a thought and I will be happy with whatever OgNasty and my fellow Fan's think! There are always a lot of unknowns... I'm doing my best to keep our growth rate ahead of the overall network while at the same time introducing new sources of BTC donations. The end of the year should prove to be very exciting for NastyFans. Giving up our BFL orders at this point just isn't going to happen. I would think at the very least they will be reselling at a premium for people in the bullet run. Also, we got up to a 25% discount on our Monarch orders (some lower because of a 10% order transfer fee). |
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What timeline do you expect to pay back this proposed reallocated debt?
The increase in BTC price has enabled me to make the necessary purchases without needing to reallocate this debt.  |
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Fliiiip these look too good...is it worth selling off my CGB though  They're worth selling your soul for.  |
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would you only take payment in bitcoin?
Yes. |
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As the escrow agent in this case, I would appreciate feedback on this situation also. I think that while the seller has a responsibility to make sure the equipment they are selling is functional, the buyer equally has the responsibility of taking the time to learn and implement conditions that will allow the equipment to function properly. Without having the equipment in my hands it is difficult to rule on who is right and who is wrong. I also believe that a proper resolution will leave both sides unpleased, and I don't want to be the judge and jury alone on this case. All armchair lawyers and opinionated folks, let's hear it. Now is your time to shine.  I've offered to help configure the Avalon, and Wrawb let me access his computer remotely Thu evening. We got as far as connecting the Avalon to his laptop by ethernet and logging into the Avalon's web interface, but his laptop battery ran out before I could configure the wifi and pool settings, and he stopped responding. The next I heard from him was Fri afternoon saying he had repackaged the Avalon and one Single and is planning to ship them back Sat.
This is the part of the story that I find somewhat disturbing... |
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Any way to charge back the BFL stuff?? Would be great to ditch them and use a decent hardware vendor.
I think that would be a mistake. We're most likely in the bullet run and should be receiving something in about a month. However, I'd love to use my personal funds to help us land a Terraminer in January which I think would be a good move... I am just about to place an order for the 1oz silver NastyFans coins, and the rising BTC price might enable me to actually have enough funds leftover to place the Terraminer order soon, but it would help speed things along if someone were able to buy some of my Nasty Mining debt... |
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Any interest in me opening another group buy for the new gold plated silver coins? I would charge 1.78 BTC per coin shipped in the US with an airtite plastic capsule. That would be a 0.6 BTC discount to ordering a single coin from casascius.com (and you get a free airtite). If there is sufficient demand, I will start taking orders.  |
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I've been in contact with CoinTerra in regards to their 2TH/s liquid cooled miner that is coming in January. I thought this might make a nice addition to Nasty Mining and CoinTerra has been generous enough to offer us a small discount on this unit to consider their miners for future purchases. That being said, we still have quite a bit of debt and I am uncomfortable taking on new debts at this time without a poll. In order to address that concern and give NastyFans the best options, I have a proposal of sorts... I have 40 BTC of Nasty Mining debt on this loan I would like to offer for sale: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=258099.msg2752120#msg2752120What I would like to do is find buyers for 20 BTC or more of this loan from me, which will enable me to place a personal order for the 2TH/s Terraminer. A 30 day poll can then be conducted to see if Nasty Mining should take over the order and assume the new debt (whatever the purchase price is in BTC). This would be like teaming up with me to help NastyFans get a 30 day option on purchasing a Terraminer. This would also give us nearly 8TH/s in power due in the next 3 months. TLDR version: Anybody want to buy 10 BTC in Nasty Mining debt for 9.75 BTC? |
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Can you provide links or quotes of PMs to backup your claims of warning Goat about using asset funds to invest in pirate?
I really don't feel like taking the time to look them up. They are out there though... Even Goat admitted at one point that his mining operation was "virtual" (i.e. non-existent) and that he was just paying the theoretical hash rate earnings from funds he was making off pirate's ponzi. This was after he sold tens of thousands of shares in his "mining operation" that was not stated to be virtual in any docs. Goat is also the guy who once issued an asset with the contract, "This is a test." I don't even think Goat would dispute that me bringing these concerns to light is the reason he now views me as untrustworthy. |
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I went ahead and ordered the coins as well as the airtites. It won't be long now. Still 12 coins up for grabs...
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Hi OgNasty
Can you explain what "change in debt ownership" will mean to me?
It means absolutely nothing to you. The lenders list changed, as a lender sold some of their debt to another lender. No big deal. |
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Quoting for a change in debt ownership. |
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Or on the contrary keep these stock until the warranty is essentially no good, then boost them .... I suspect there is a decent chance that BFL may come out with a like update which won't void the warranty...
THat's not a bad comprimise.. How long is the warranty good for anyway? In all cases, warranties will be a minimum of 1 year from the date of shipment.
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