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1761  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 01, 2020, 07:33:03 AM
Excellent resource center, quoted for reference and for further reading. I read two articles which were illuminating. How did you find that site, if I may ask?
Thanks, btw.
1762  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 30, 2020, 08:42:41 AM
Shoo shoo... run along.... Notice that I have vegeta behind me on this one....

Dude. You're gayer than I am sometimes. And that's really REALLY difficult to accomplish.

 Grin Grin Grin

Those are the posts that make a good start of the day!

China/UK/HK - Shit! This is going to end very bad  Roll Eyes
1763  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypto.com - The Pioneering Payments & Cryptocurrency Platform on: June 30, 2020, 08:32:30 AM
FCA lifted the ban on Wirecard UK hence crypto.com cards are working again.
https://blog.crypto.com/update-mco-visa-card-europe-resumes-operation/
1764  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypto.com - The Pioneering Payments & Cryptocurrency Platform on: June 29, 2020, 03:59:28 PM
So if they transfer the provider will the current card render useless and they would have to reissue the cards?

I agree when I first staked in their platform I was really worried too that they will shut down shop run away with funds.

I would imagine that the cards will need to be reissued by the new company, but it only effects users in Europe I think. Maybe there's someway to transfer accounts since the cards are issued by VISA but it probably depends on how operative and cooperative the defunct company is if at all.
Curve was another fintech company affect by the Wirecard fiasco. I got an email later this morning saying the card is working again.
No need to re-issue.
I hope Crypto.com can do the same
1765  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-06-10]Pentagon Docs Reveal The U.S. Has Planned For A Bitcoin Rebellion on: June 29, 2020, 01:54:50 PM
@Harlot. Also, bitcoin can also be considered a software message passing system similar to whatsapp, facebook messenger and also the bank's SWIFT is a message passing system.

The government must be careful on how they regulate bitcoin because it might create dangerous precedents.

@gentlemand. https://repository.law.miami.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4591&context=umlr
This is very interesting indeed, thanks a lot for sharing! Imagine what it would be like to be btc to be ruled that way. Will look into it.
1766  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 29, 2020, 01:52:45 PM
That's how any coiner should spread the word!  Cool

Well, considering that this is a tourist country that is visited by many, and one of the offices is located on the Adriatic coast, why not take the opportunity and visit a crypto bank Wink



Is this available also if you hold in your own wallet? Germany has something similar, but it turned out to need to move your coins in a custodial wallet, which sux.
Also, is this available only for Croatians? (one can always hope Grin )


However, the 2k EUR/day should be more than enough for everybody, so, yeah, well done Croatia!

As far as I know, there are no conditions that crypto must be in the custodial wallet, but it is only necessary to prove with documents that 2+ years have passed since the purchase. It is probably only available to Croats, as proof of purchase/sale must be submitted to the local tax administration.

As for the 2000 EUR limit, for a long time it was at 1000 EUR, but it was raised a few days ago - allegedly because a competition appeared that started to offer something similar. But even if you need more than 2000 EUR per day, there is another option to buy gold directly for BTC, and then you can sell the same gold in the same place for cash.

That's how things work for now, but it's likely to change when the new AMLD5 finally takes effect - in this case, the pandemic is working in our favor.
AMLD5, Travel Rule and all the rest of it is what they are planning to use to ruin the party here.
Until it works, it seems paradise over there for coiners.
1767  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 26, 2020, 10:29:49 AM
F a T F t ra ve l rule

my only comment? what is that (in very general terms if its a secret or something).



I guess WObservers don't really seem to care......

I hate to break it to you but this has been a thing since the 1990's. I would also like to note that if you are using bitcoin for ML or other illicit activities your doing it wrong imho. Its a public blockchain...just saying...again for the thousandth time.

Recommendation 15 and the travel rule all fall under this as well. Yes..its draconian and everyone should be concerned and calling their representative immediately and asking a serious whiskey tango foxtrot.

My take on it? Two words that have been shared ad nausaem through verbiage and meme.  It's afraid.  


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On June 21, 2019, the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) published several documents (Release) that, according to U.S. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin, will require virtual asset service providers to implement the same anti-money laundering and counterterrorism financing (AML/CTF) requirements as traditional financial institutions.1 The Release includes three binding documents (Requirements) and nonbinding guidance (Guidance).

1. The Requirements include the following:

a. Recommendation 15 on New Technologies (Recommendation 15), which is one of 40 FATF Recommendations (Recommendations) for AML/CTF programs for countries and financial institutions (updated in October 2018 to expressly reference virtual assets).

b. Definitions of “virtual asset” and “virtual asset service providers” (VASPs) (also originally promulgated in October 2018).

c. A new Interpretive Note to Recommendation 15 (Interpretation) explaining how Recommendation 15 applies to virtual assets, the risk-based approach that countries should take regarding virtual assets and a summary of licensing, supervisory, monitoring and cooperation requirements to be implemented.2

The Requirements are considered binding on FATF members but are not binding on any individual or entity engaging in activities with virtual currencies. Rather, each country will need to assess Recommendation 15, the Interpretation and glossary terms and determine how to implement them through law, regulation and guidance in their own jurisdiction. Failure to implement the Requirements can lead to a country receiving low ratings in FATF’s peer review process. Too many low ratings result in inclusion on FATF’s list of countries whose AML/CTF measures are deficient. The ratings and lists are public, and inclusion of a country on a list of deficient countries can lead to counterparties in other jurisdictions subjecting individuals and entities from the deficient countries to enhanced due diligence measures and ultimately a prohibition of financial transactions.3

2. The Guidance explains the application of the Requirements and several other FATF Recommendations to member countries and commercial entities that engage in virtual asset activities, including digital asset exchanges, decentralized (distributed) applications (DApps), blockchain technology companies, wallet providers and gaming companies.4 The Guidance is not binding and does not overrule the purview of national authorities, including on their assessment and categorization of virtual assets and VASPs and the ML/TF risks.5

The Release is designed to reflect the evolution of virtual assets since FATF’s 2015 virtual asset guidance, including initial coin offerings (ICOs), decentralized exchanges and products and services that may reduce the transparency of financial flows.6 Much of the substance may appear familiar to U.S. market participants because it is similar to the recent Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) guidance regarding application of the Bank Secrecy Act to certain business models involving convertible virtual currencies.7

The Requirements and Guidance

Definitions and Scope

The Requirements define a virtual asset as a digital representation of value that can be digitally traded, or transferred, and can be used for payment or investment purposes. Virtual assets do not include digital representations of fiat currencies, securities and other financial assets that are covered elsewhere in the FATF Recommendations. The Guidance explains that FATF intends for the Requirements to be technology-neutral, and therefore the Requirements do not exempt specific assets that may be defined differently across jurisdictions, such as utility tokens. FATF recommends flexibility in regulating virtual assets and virtual asset activities, which involve a range of products and services in a rapidly evolving space.

The Requirements also clarify that the specific discussion of the coverage of virtual assets and VASPs is not intended to be exclusive of the application of the other more general provisions of the FATF Recommendations; countries should consider virtual assets as “property,” “proceeds,” “funds,” “funds or other assets” or other “corresponding value” for the purposes of applying each of the FATF Recommendations. Furthermore, countries should apply the relevant measures under all of the FATF Recommendations to virtual assets and VASPs.8

A VASP is defined as any natural or legal person who is not covered elsewhere under the Recommendations, and as a business conducts one or more of the following activities or operations for or on behalf of another natural or legal person: (i) exchange between virtual assets and fiat currencies, (ii) exchange between one or more forms of virtual assets, (iii) transfer of virtual assets, (iv) safekeeping and/or administration of virtual assets or instruments enabling control over virtual assets, and (v) participation in and provision of financial services related to an issuer’s offer and/or sale of a virtual asset. In the context of virtual assets, transfer means to conduct a transaction on behalf of another natural or legal person that moves a virtual asset from one virtual asset address or account to another.

The Guidance provides analysis of the definition of VASP, including in the context of custody, rewards programs, DApps, and peer-to-peer platforms. Although not explicitly listed, it is possible that FATF would consider the definition of VASP to cover token lending activities. They note that some items that on their face do not appear to constitute virtual assets may in fact be virtual assets that enable the transfer or exchange of value or facilitate ML/TF (money laundering and terrorist financing). FATF gives the example of gaming tokens that can be used to obfuscate transaction flows between an in-game token and its exchange for a virtual asset. They also cite secondary markets that exist in both the securities and commodities sectors for goods and services that are fungible, are transferable, and can store and accrue value.

The Guidance explains that safekeeping and administration services under the definition of VASP include persons who have exclusive or independent control of the private key associated with virtual assets belonging to another person or exclusive and independent control of smart contracts to which they are not a party that involve virtual assets belonging to another person.

The discussion of DApps is similar to the recent FinCEN guidance and cites the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission’s report on the DAO, a decentralized autonomous organization, for an explanation of a DApp.9 FATF takes the position that a DApp and its “owners or operators” may fall under the definition of a VASP, without elaborating on who might be considered such an “owner or operator.” Furthermore, as under the FinCEN Guidance, a DApp developer who engages as a business in facilitating the exchange or transfer of value (either virtual assets or fiat currency) may be a VASP.

FATF excludes from the definitions of virtual assets and VASPs certain “closed-loop” activities. This includes closed-loop items that are nontransferable, nonexchangeable and nonfungible, specifically referencing airline miles, credit card awards and loyalty programs points that cannot be sold on the secondary market.

Transaction Thresholds

The Interpretation sets the threshold for occasional transactions above which VASPs are required to conduct customer due diligence at USD EUR 1,000. It is important to note that this is a threshold only for “occasional” transactions and not a complete exemption for transactions under the specified amount.

Risk-Based Approach

The Requirements explain that countries should identify, assess and understand the risks of virtual asset activities, new products, new business practices and new technologies and apply a risk-based approach to ensure that measures to prevent or mitigate ML/TF are commensurate with the risks identified. Importantly, the Guidance clarifies that while virtual asset activities may serve as another mechanism for the illegal transfer of value or funds, countries should not necessarily categorize VASPs or virtual asset activities as inherently high ML/TF risks. The Guidance identifies sectors that may be vulnerable to ML/TF; however, the overall risk should be determined through an assessment of the sector at a national level. Different entities within a sector may pose a higher or lower risk depending on a variety of factors, including products, services, customers, geography and the strength of the entity’s compliance program. Furthermore, the extent and quality of a country’s regulatory and supervisory framework, as well as its risk-based controls and mitigation measures by VASPs influence the risks associated with virtual asset activity in a given country.

FATF has determined that financial institutions should conduct a risk assessment and take appropriate measures to manage and mitigate risks prior to the launch of new products, new business practices or the use of new technologies. In an apparent effort to avoid the prospect of indirectly choking VASP access to the traditional banking sector, the Guidance also emphasizes that it is important that financial institutions apply the risk-based approach properly and do not resort to the wholesale termination or exclusion of customer relationships within the VASP sector without a proper risk assessment.

Licensing, Supervision and Monitoring

To manage and mitigate the risks emerging from virtual assets, countries should ensure that virtual asset service providers are regulated for AML/CTF purposes, and licensed or registered and subject to effective systems for monitoring and ensuring compliance with the relevant measures called for in the FATF Recommendations. The Requirements explain that VASPs should be required to be licensed or registered in the jurisdiction where they are created and where a VASP business is located. Jurisdictions may also require licensing or registration of VASPs that offer products or services in or conduct operations from that jurisdiction. For entities doing cross-border business, this creates the prospect of complying with multiple licensing regimes around the world. However, countries need not impose a separate licensing or registration system on individuals or entities already subject to the full range of applicable obligations under the FATF Recommendations.  Similar to FinCEN’s money services business licensing requirements, the Requirements state that authorities should take measures to prevent criminals or their associates from owning or controlling VASPs. Furthermore, similar to the FinCEN money services business ongoing compliance requirements, the Requirements explain that countries should ensure that VASPs are subject to adequate regulation and supervision or monitoring for AML/CTF that is risk-based.

Information Gathering and Cooperation

The most operationally significant elements of the FATF Release, the Requirements apply the requirements of Recommendation 16, Wire Transfers, to virtual assets, including freezing and prohibiting transactions with sanctioned persons and entities. Similar to FinCEN’s recent guidancethat the Funds Travel Rule and Funds Transfer Rule apply to certain transactions in convertible virtual currency, FATF has determined that countries should ensure that originating VASPs obtain and hold certain information regarding originators and beneficiaries of virtual asset transfers, submit the information to the beneficiary VASP or financial institution (if any) immediately and securely and make this information available on request to appropriate authorities.10 In the Guidance, FATF stresses that it is “vital” that countries ensure that virtual asset transfer providers transmit originator and beneficiary information immediately and securely, particularly given the rapid and cross-border nature of VA transfers. The information can be submitted either directly or indirectly and it is not necessary for the information to be attached directly to virtual asset transfers. While this flexibility is a concession to the industry in recognition of the challenge this requirement poses for existing blockchain protocols, it remains a significant issue for the industry. Authorities are encouraged to cooperate and exchange information on VASPs in order to stop ML/TF.

FATF explains that VASPs and financial institutions are not expected to submit information to individual users who are not required to be licensed or supervised. However, VASPs receiving a virtual asset transfer from an entity that is not a VASP or other obliged entity must obtain the required originator information from their own customer. Furthermore, FATF explains that countries may permit regulated VASPs and financial institutions to rely on a regulated entity that is supervised and monitored for AML/CTF to introduce business and perform part of the customer due diligence process, consistent with Recommendation 17 and U.S. law. Although the Guidance does not specifically address the use of unregulated entities as service provider in support of such processes, such arrangements are common in the United States and presumably were not intended to be precluded by the Recommendation.  

Conclusion

The FATF Release provides a window into how countries around the world are expected to regulate virtual assets and virtual asset activity. Although it will likely take years for countries to implement the Release via binding legal requirements, it is clear that more regulation is on the way. Individuals and businesses involved in virtual assets should consider the effect that these rules may have on their virtual asset activities and how they may be able to provide technical information and guidance to local lawmakers and regulators as they shape local law. In particular, virtual asset market actors should keep in mind the following:

Although similar in many ways to the recent FinCEN guidance, the implementation of the Interpretation and related Guidance would expand that model globally. Virtual asset platforms that were not previously regulated may soon be required to register as VASPs in the jurisdictions in which they are incorporated and do business. Licensing and compliance requirements can be lengthy and expensive. Those engaging in virtual asset activities should start planning now for how they will comply in each country in which they have users and other operations.

I know all that, don't worry. My corn is only for investment purposes, never thought of using them for illicit things. Either way, regulatory things are very annoying as I came here for the freedom of using my money, my way. I was too idealistic probably Smiley
1768  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 25, 2020, 02:30:41 PM
Good day everyone! Needed to greet that way because I am a bit worried on whats happening today. I don't know if you WObservers have seen how the infamous F a T F t ra ve l rule is unfolding. I know most of you will be able to avoid/circumvent this implementation, nonetheless I am seeing many industry players racing to adopt it.
Any comment on that?

my only comment? what is that (in very general terms if its a secret or something).

yes im out of the loop. too many projects keep me away from bct lately.

Try to recompose the letters I have put that way and see for yourself: I don't wish my posts to be indexed because of that.
In any case, it's about new regulations which might deeply impact corn transfers. Hence I wanted to know form anyone here if anybody knew something.
I guess WObservers don't really seem to care......
1769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypto.com - The Pioneering Payments & Cryptocurrency Platform on: June 25, 2020, 02:23:26 PM
UPDATE: card issuer went bankrupt (Wirecard)
https://www.ft.com/content/284fb1ad-ddc0-45df-a075-0709b36868db
Statement from the CEO on the Wirecard, MCO Visa Card situation here
https://twitter.com/Kris_HK/status/1276091482072473600
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Wirecard AG filed for insolvency in Germany today.
To all our card customers: your fiat funds are safe and guaranteed by http://Crypto.com — in case any of the services provided by Wirecard are disrupted, you will receive a fast 100% credit back to your crypto wallet.
1770  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 24, 2020, 07:45:41 AM
Good day everyone! Needed to greet that way because I am a bit worried on whats happening today. I don't know if you WObservers have seen how the infamous F a T F t ra ve l rule is unfolding. I know most of you will be able to avoid/circumvent this implementation, nonetheless I am seeing many industry players racing to adopt it.
Any comment on that?
1771  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 22, 2020, 09:40:31 AM
Monday pump!  Cool
Where do you see it? This is not a price pump  Grin
This is a small step up, nothing more. You clearly know what are real pumps, am I right?  Cool
1772  Economy / Speculation / Re: What’s next if bitcoin breaks $9,270 ? on: June 19, 2020, 07:36:31 AM
the same thing that has been for the past month or more.

price goes up to $10k then comes back down to $9k then goes back up to $10k again to rinse and repeat. sometimes the weaker hands get overly excited and price goes outside of these bounds (a little higher or a little lower) for a little while but it comes back inside the range again.
Grin
Excellent explanation! I would add that a few Bart Simpson movements might happen here and there. This is it at the moment, good time to accumulate again within the 9k range. As for the rest, hold them.
1773  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 18, 2020, 04:23:09 PM
A very interesting story!

https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-be-a-Bitcoin-millionarie

This guy has my respect! He waited 7 years as a true hodler. He didn't sell everything, he left over 50% of his stash. He sold far from the top at 11K and still didn't buy at higher prices during December 2017 FOMO. We can learn a lot from this guy. Screw the ferraries and lambos though, I think this is a horrible investment (despite my hat).

Interesting story, I wish I could have started mining earlier than 2014. Back in 2010 one only needed a decent gaming PC to mine bitcoin.
IMHO I am good like this, I learnt a lot thanks to bitcoin. I have a few and that's enough for me. Financial freedom is the key here.
1774  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] Bitamp Signature Campaign | Hero/Legendary - $50/Week on: June 18, 2020, 04:14:23 PM
Hi Hhampuz! Here you go

Bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=223006
Current amount of posts (including this one): 4067
How much merit have you earned in the last 120 days: 20
SegWit BTC Address for Payouts: bc1qxr052wefgml4y2jdtu70rehds3nse6lt73fa88

Thanks
1775  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 18, 2020, 08:54:53 AM
Tech news of the day
I tried Samourai Wallet (connected via a good friend's node and TOR). Put a a few satoshis in there and tried Whirlpool.
It looks good to clean toxic change and dust accumulated over the years. You might want to try it out or tell me what you think about it.
1776  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 17, 2020, 01:56:43 PM
I am willing to take the risk. Wink
Golden rule: don't risk more than you could afford to lose.  Wink

I am already over-invested, was not my fault but bitcoin's! He decided to become the largest holding in my portfolio without telling me.
I can not complain so far.
Come on man, get back your full coin.  Smiley
1777  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 16, 2020, 08:40:48 AM


I am out of merits micdude, but get a full 100 WOmerits for this. You know, this is the kind of reminder I needed today. Will probably buy some more corn even if it's not the day.
I am willing to take the risk. Wink
1778  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 15, 2020, 07:34:04 AM
Usdt is the real bitcoin.

Never go full mindrust.
Bob's poetry at its finest.

Let's end the nocoiner suffering here, we went through all sort of shit and this time is no different.
In fact, the next 24 hours are critical and, please, never forget to stack your daily sats.

Remember, stacking sats today is an act of resistance.
1779  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Someone just paid $2,6M in fees while sending just $133 in ETH on: June 15, 2020, 07:17:21 AM
The exchange has no name on one article I read so it could be the current exchange that we are trading, the name of the exchange should be mentioned so people will not think of any exchange, but this is a new way of hacking if hackers cannot send to their own address they just use all the funds in gas fee to whitelisted address, an amazing strategy, but unless the exchange is named and confirmed it we can only speculate.

I would assume that it is a medium-sized or even a small sized exchange. Because it happened to major exchanges such as Huobi or Binance, they would have already kicked the butt of the hacker. From this modus operandi, the hacker seems to be an immature guy. The exchange just needs to hire some professionals to identify this guy, and then they can take the necessary legal action.
Sherlock Holmes had his time already, didn't he? Your opinions are very funny to say the least.
Please, do not assume anything.  Cool
1780  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 14, 2020, 12:30:32 PM
AlcoHoDL, your very last post is probably worth a thousand of JJG's. JayJuanGee no offence here  Grin
Good, then! you got my last 7 merits and my complete admiration for your very informative post.
I guess I can do that with any software wallet and not only with Trezors and such. I will try it on Electrum as soon as I can install it again.

So plausible deniability is only one of the main rings which make our Bitcoin galaxy secure.

Thank you very much Smiley

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