I am very sad right now guys. I wish I had seen that coinex was utter bullshit before wasting my btc on it. Lost 114 hbn to that site =(
Oh well... if anyone knows how I can get these out please PLEASE help me. I am really upset about this as money is very hard to come by for some people. (me especially)
Cryptocurrency trading is the worst type of trading there is, this is not the place to go if you have any sort of money issues. Quit while you can. Come back after you have done your homework and have more than enough to work so that if you lose 114 hbn it won't =( you out. good luck
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Comm is going through the floor what's going on I was just about to buy at 71, then it went to 64, then 54, 40, 30 ... what's happening ?? it's at 69, what are you talking about? just FUD FUD? all of that was FUD, you've got to be kidding?!! well if that's the cased there's a bargain for Comm right now that's a problem... too many bargain at the same time, COMM, MRC.... which one to choose ? MRC??? would not touch again until I see signs of life. I'm still looking at carp diem to see how they resurrect themselves if that turns out fine I'll have a better outlook on MRC. COMM is right back to normal like nothing ever happened. ahahhaaaaa, I can't believe it.
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Comm is going through the floor what's going on I was just about to buy at 71, then it went to 64, then 54, 40, 30 ... what's happening ?? it's at 69, what are you talking about? just FUD FUD? all of that was FUD, you've got to be kidding?!! well if that's the cased there's a bargain for Comm right now Comm is going through the floor what's going on I was just about to buy at 71, then it went to 64, then 54, 40, 30 ... what's happening ?? you should be happy then... (market still frozen on polo... that makes morons not aware of polo problem fud...) I just dumped nearly 100K Comm at firesale rates because of complete hysteria, are you saying there was no actual problem?
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Comm is going through the floor what's going on I was just about to buy at 71, then it went to 64, then 54, 40, 30 ... what's happening ?? [edit] now it's going back up 30, 40, 50 not yet 60 what's happening???
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Poloniex is back online - Please generate new deposit addresses prior to making any deposits, if you want to be extra safe send a small deposit first to make sure everything is stable. Hats off to the Poloniex folks for handling the issues so well, they are trustworthy and great exchange in my book.
You guys are true gamblers, letting coin stay where it might disappear in an instant for no known reason, whew, what good is holding for huge profits if the whole kit-n-kabotal (sp) is gone in an instant. Nope, I'm outta there.
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Can you please remove Coinex from the OP please?
I struck it out for now. We'll see if they can come back at some point.. use cryptofunds.pw - 0% trade fees. Five reasons why you should not use them: 1) they are new and unestablished 2) their about us page doesn't indicate who the owners are 3) in their terms they mention Cyprus, but no address, no phone, no contact, no representative 4) they are not registered with FinCEN and 5) they have chosen to hide their site registration information Thanks so much! You know your stuff!!! Lost too many coins to bad exchanges already Here is a link that I keep to remind me of how dangerous the cryptocurrency industry is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.0all you need to do is read the first OP that should put things in perspective for a long while. BTW, polonex went down again today for a few hours, returned a little bit ago with lots of things frozen. [I don't know why they went down or why things are still frozen], if you have anything of substance there you might want to move it as soon as it thaws.
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Because if the price has gine up from watever happening to the site. I was buying and selling since the start makng extra coins I just hoping they nit sold and the price skyrocket cos my sell is low
i hope the price is 3x as much so people will quit doing that and let the price go up. everybody doing that is why we cant have a steady rise in price if it cost u 3x as much to get coins less u have to push price back down. true but for all intents and purposes XBC is skyrocking and has been doing so forever, take a look around dude, the CC world is full of loser coins, including big brother BTC be very grateful that you hooked a big and healthy one in this coin
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back, back or kinda sorta maybe back? what happened?
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did you guys kill polonex?
I know upto now you are their cash-cow
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Can you please remove Coinex from the OP please?
I struck it out for now. We'll see if they can come back at some point.. use cryptofunds.pw - 0% trade fees. Five reasons why you should not use them: 1) they are new and unestablished 2) their about us page doesn't indicate who the owners are 3) in their terms they mention Cyprus, but no address, no phone, no contact, no representative 4) they are not registered with FinCEN and 5) they have chosen to hide their site registration information Domain ID:CNIC-DO1877555 Domain Name:CRYPTOFUNDS.PW Created On:2014-02-20T14:46:58.0Z Last Updated On:2014-02-25T14:57:12.0Z Expiration Date:2015-02-20T23:59:59.0Z Status:clientTransferProhibited Status:serverTransferProhibited Registrant ID:NNDAZDGVYGSJINLR Registrant Name:WhoisGuard Protected Registrant Organization:WhoisGuard, Inc. Registrant Street1:P.O. Box 0823-03411 Registrant City:Panama Registrant State/Province:Panama Registrant Postal Code:00000 Registrant Country:PA Registrant Phone:+507.8365503 Registrant Fax:+51.17057182 Registrant Email:0900ab82fe0745478686aefb3083d48d.protect@whoisguard.com Admin ID:RFNAXZ4NOB0IMYJD Admin Name:WhoisGuard Protected Admin Organization:WhoisGuard, Inc. Admin Street1:P.O. Box 0823-03411 Admin City:Panama Admin State/Province:Panama Admin Postal Code:00000 Admin Country:PA Admin Phone:+507.8365503 Admin Fax:+51.17057182 Admin Email:0900ab82fe0745478686aefb3083d48d.protect@whoisguard.com Tech ID:UUM1UUOHXG1UJXYQ Tech Name:WhoisGuard Protected Tech Organization:WhoisGuard, Inc. Tech Street1:P.O. Box 0823-03411 Tech City:Panama Tech State/Province:Panama Tech Postal Code:00000 Tech Country:PA Tech Phone:+507.8365503 Tech Fax:+51.17057182 Tech Email:0900ab82fe0745478686aefb3083d48d.protect@whoisguard.com Billing ID:SK342LLZBUVT1YIE Billing Name:WhoisGuard Protected Billing Organization:WhoisGuard, Inc. Billing Street1:P.O. Box 0823-03411 Billing City:Panama Billing State/Province:Panama Billing Postal Code:00000 Billing Country:PA Billing Phone:+507.8365503 Billing Fax:+51.17057182 Billing Email:0900ab82fe0745478686aefb3083d48d.protect@whoisguard.com Sponsoring Registrar ID:H1772673 Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID:1068 Sponsoring Registrar Organization:Namecheap Sponsoring Registrar Street1:11400 W Olympic Blvd. Sponsoring Registrar Street2:Suite 200 Sponsoring Registrar City:Los Angeles Sponsoring Registrar State/Province:CA Sponsoring Registrar Postal Code:90064 Sponsoring Registrar Country:US Sponsoring Registrar Phone:+1.0123456789 Sponsoring Registrar Fax:+1.0123456789 Sponsoring Registrar Website:http://www.namecheap.com Name Server:dns1.registrar-servers.com Name Server:dns2.registrar-servers.com Name Server:dns3.registrar-servers.com Name Server:dns4.registrar-servers.com Name Server:dns5.registrar-servers.com DNSSEC:Unsigned This whois service is provided by CentralNic Ltd and only contains information pertaining to Internet domain names we have registered for our customers. By using this service you are agreeing (1) not to use any information presented here for any purpose other than determining ownership of domain names, (2) not to store or reproduce this data in any way, (3) not to use any high-volume, automated, electronic processes to obtain data from this service. Abuse of this service is monitored and actions in contravention of these terms will result in being permanently blacklisted. All data is (c) CentralNic Ltd https://www.centralnic.com/
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Here are some conflicting interests:
1) Currency Conflict - Grant should be paid in EMC2; if provide a grant in USD, CAD or anything other than EMC2 you decreased the value of the CC from the very start. If the recipient wants to dump it (cash the check) it's up to them. if so it will be immediate and reflected in the market as a dip instead of a permanent market depression.
That is impossible for the same reason bitcoin grants are impossible in the currency technological and economical situation. One cannot buy real world assets with bitcoin (beyond a small and growing network of companies that have little to do with science related elements) thus they cannot buy with EMC2. Beyond this, those major retailers you see accepting bitcoin, they don't store it, they convert it to USD, because USD is a globally accepted currency that can provide more than fractured services. It can do that because it is a globally recognized currency endorsed by the U.S. Government. We always suggest to and encourage our grant winners to accept it in EMC2 if not the total sum at least some partial amount. However, until the social, economic and technological impairments are removed and CC are accepted and recognized in important markets not only in small ones, we are forced by need to provide it in USD. See statement in red. As for the companies like Tiger and Overstock, they are facilitators of sorts they immediately convert BTC to USD however the people (Coinbase) they sell the BTC to hold the BTC for others who eventually want to buy the BTC -- that's the good ending. You have highlighted the conflicting interests by solving a perceived problem for the recipient of the award at the expense of the CC. The NP isn't going to give the recipient physical cash is it, no you are more likely to write a check, a check that the receiver must negotiate (process) in order to get the cash (USD, CAD, EUR, or visa/MC card). To collect EMC2, convert to BTC (by dumping EMC2), convert to CAD (by dumping BTC), then exchange for USD (by dumping CAD) is very costly. Not just in fees and time by in the devaluation of the dumped currencies. There are ways for the recipient to receive Paypal cash, Visa/MC debit card, or a check for his or her EMC2, as an Einstein award winner they could figure it out, but you could also offer to vet such resources. If you give someone a check they get to use the funds as they wish, if you give them a gift card they use it within the limits of the card (store GC or visa type card) neverthe less, it's for them to figure out how to Well if the end purpose is to receive cash here is a solution. Give them the EMC2 then provide a vehicle for them to cash the EMC2. The conflicting interest is the NP bending over backwards for the project, not for the CC funding the project. It's all well and fine to deliver a perfect meal for first class passengers, but the higher priority is fuel for the plane. Figure out how to dump responsibly, when the market is at highs not when they are at lows. 2) Liquidity Conflict - Grant should be from available funds; if only X EMC2 is available, yet the 'goal' for a particular project is 10X EMC2, the project goal should not impact the extent of the original funding plan otherwise the likely way it will be gathered via CC is accepting more CC donations to immediately dump for cash (btc, USD, CAD, etc). Protracted cash-outs result in a strangulation of the CC If the specific purpose of the donation is to cash it out, ask for the end purpose currency or make the request of all CCs (not just EMC2) in this way the CC damage is mitigated.
Grants always come from available funds, the available funds are represented by the total amount of coins mined into existence, be it EMC2/LTC/DOGE/BTC. What you're describing is the basic mechanism of profit in the CC scene. It's not related to Einsteinium in any way, it's related to the whole digital currency scene everyone here is part of. There's an ongoing fundraiser, requesting funds over and above that which is already set aside for grants, apparently it is that aspect of the fundraising that is causing the prolonged market depression. If you decide to put more resources into a project than the fund can support, then see the CC starting to suffer, that is the time to provide critical care to the CC, not demand more out of it. Remember the CC is suppose to fund the projects, and the pumps (marketing) are supposed to help fund the CC; given that the press release (magic memo) probably didn't provide the anticipated bounce all NP dumps/cash-outs should cease. 3) Attention Conflict- At this point in the fundraiser the focal subject is the specific project funded by the CC, not the health of the CC funding the project and future projects. The cash-cow is ill, it needs to recuperate you've got to stop milking it for a while.
This does not make sense, the coin and the foundation are the same part of a bigger structure, they are mutually dependent. It should also be noted that fundraisers are critical to marketing and the very concept behind the Einsteinium foundation. In whatever way you departmentalize the foundation, if the foundation is the body, the CC would be the heart and the individual projects would be the receptors that are filled with the life blood (EMC2) provided by the CC. When the CC is weak it should rest not be pumped harder.
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Here's what BitcoinMafia made for us: wow, am I dreaming of did I see that someplace before? I swear I saw that before the promo offer -- is that a spin-off of another coin? deja vu has never been this clear, I"m freaking out
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This is for clarification so everybody knows what is going on with the fundraiser if the experiment goal does not get met.
If the experiment goal is not met by the deadline, there is no reason to be concerned. The epoch 2 winner will still get the funding. So rest assured keep donating!
We have already discussed with mend therapeutics that all funds being raised through digital currency will be donated towards their research on affordable diabetes drugs. This includes both the epoch 2 funding award our community voted on, as well as anything raised during the fundraising cycle.
The experiment goal would be wonderful to meet within the deadline, but we want to make clear to anyone who was concerned looking at where we are now. The goal is the goal, both us, mend and experiment are shooting for this to be met within the deadline. Every coin counts!
We aim to be transparent on these matters now and into the future.
As structured and implemented the plan creates conflicting interests. If you want the cryptocurrency (CC) fund the non-profit (NP) the two should not be put in a position where they overlap or compete for attention. My understanding of how the CC was to fund the NP was essentially via a 2% mining tax of sorts, and from that fund the grants would be funded. In such a case, there is no conflict because there is no overlap. However, if the NP desires to raise funds via the CC over and above the way indicated, interests begin to compete. Here are some conflicting interests: 1) Currency Conflict - Grant should be paid in EMC2; if provide a grant in USD, CAD or anything other than EMC2 you decreased the value of the CC from the very start. If the recipient wants to dump it (cash the check) it's up to them. if so it will be immediately reflected in the market as a dip instead of a permanent market depression. 2) Liquidity Conflict - Grant should be from available funds; if only X EMC2 is available, yet the 'goal' for a particular project is 10X EMC2, the project goal should not impact the extent of the original funding plan otherwise the likely way it will be gathered via CC is accepting more CC donations to immediately dump for cash (btc, USD, CAD, etc). Protracted cash-outs result in a strangulation of the CC If the specific purpose of the donation is to cash it out, ask for the end purpose currency or make the request of all CCs (not just EMC2) in this way the CC damage is mitigated. 3) Attention Conflict- At this point in the fundraiser the focal subject is the specific project funded by the CC, not the health of the CC funding the project and future projects. The cash-cow is ill, it needs to recuperate, you've got to stop milking it for a while.
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Tranz, How about opening up your coffer and sell us some HBNs? I discovered HBN too late and I can't effectively compete with the damn bots on Cryptsy Also I bought some HBNs at CoinEX at a good price, or so I thought Can't withdraw them I also beseech you rich HBN whales to do the same ... Look at the HBN rich list I would be interested in buying the site if it is available for sale, it looks like they are hiding info. Domain ID:CNIC-DO1373171 Domain Name:COINEX.PW Created On:2013-07-22T13:16:23.0Z Last Updated On:2014-03-14T12:08:31.0Z Expiration Date:2014-07-22T23:59:59.0Z Status:clientTransferProhibited Status:serverTransferProhibited Registrant ID:H280468 Registrant Name:Domain Admin Registrant Organization:PrivacyProtect.org Registrant Street1:ID#10760, PO Box 16 Registrant Street2:Note - All Postal Mails Rejected, visit Privacyprotect.org Registrant City:Nobby Beach Registrant Postal Code:QLD 4218 Registrant Country:AU Registrant Phone:+45.36946676 Registrant Email:contact@privacyprotect.org Admin ID:H280468 Admin Name:Domain Admin Admin Organization:PrivacyProtect.org Admin Street1:ID#10760, PO Box 16 Admin Street2:Note - All Postal Mails Rejected, visit Privacyprotect.org Admin City:Nobby Beach Admin Postal Code:QLD 4218 Admin Country:AU Admin Phone:+45.36946676 Admin Email:contact@privacyprotect.org Tech ID:H280468 Tech Name:Domain Admin Tech Organization:PrivacyProtect.org Tech Street1:ID#10760, PO Box 16 Tech Street2:Note - All Postal Mails Rejected, visit Privacyprotect.org Tech City:Nobby Beach Tech Postal Code:QLD 4218 Tech Country:AU Tech Phone:+45.36946676 Tech Email:contact@privacyprotect.org Billing ID:H280468 Billing Name:Domain Admin Billing Organization:PrivacyProtect.org Billing Street1:ID#10760, PO Box 16 Billing Street2:Note - All Postal Mails Rejected, visit Privacyprotect.org Billing City:Nobby Beach Billing Postal Code:QLD 4218 Billing Country:AU Billing Phone:+45.36946676 Billing Email:contact@privacyprotect.org Sponsoring Registrar ID:H2834038 Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID:1111 Sponsoring Registrar Organization:DomainContext Inc. Sponsoring Registrar Street1:501 Silverside Road Sponsoring Registrar Street2:Suite 105 Sponsoring Registrar City:Wilmington Sponsoring Registrar State/Province:DE Sponsoring Registrar Postal Code:19809 Sponsoring Registrar Country:US Sponsoring Registrar Phone:+13.024427322 Sponsoring Registrar Fax:+13.024427337 Sponsoring Registrar Website:http://www.domaincontext.com Name Server:sue.ns.cloudflare.com Name Server:art.ns.cloudflare.com DNSSEC:Unsigned This whois service is provided by CentralNic Ltd and only contains information pertaining to Internet domain names we have registered for our customers. By using this service you are agreeing (1) not to use any information presented here for any purpose other than determining ownership of domain names, (2) not to store or reproduce this data in any way, (3) not to use any high-volume, automated, electronic processes to obtain data from this service. Abuse of this service is monitored and actions in contravention of these terms will result in being permanently blacklisted. All data is (c) CentralNic Ltd https://www.centralnic.com/
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hahahahaaaa you guys so crazy over there it looks like a black friday sale at walmart hahahaaaaaa almost as bad as XBC at polonex they are crazy over there too it s being really hard to buy at decent prices at the moment i think. in a way i am so happy it reached 50K but on the other hand i really feel like i am spending tons and tons of effort into buying at high prices on cryptsy. we broke 1M market cap too and bots are so not helping, does cryptsy even plan on cleaning them up or what?.
I don't think that's bot activity, cryptsy can barely keep up with the activity
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The HBN BuyBot on Cryptsy is really annoying...
Cryptsy is the KING of the bots: spacer bots, tempo bots, tag bots, notice bots, and shield bots to strongly encourage higher values on both sides instead of 'fair' trading by the actual traders. The best way to combat the bot is to be slow and deliberate. If you want to bit x don't be influenced by x+bot, if you want to want to be the highest or lowest just piggy back on the highest or lowest and wait your turn, if you rather be solo high/low then you must be prepared to fight the bot.
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Well I always wanted to know what happens when a CC's value sinks to 1 sat, now I get to see it live. I was told that once a CC hits 2 sat it would never rise out of it, I understood that rationale, but never understood how it could get to a point of ZERO buy orders, given that is DIEM's present condition at Poloniex my analysis is in full swing.
You're not seeing any buy orders because you're looking at the wrong market. Poloniex opened up the BTC market a couple of days before the pool went down. Buy orders might move in there once the new pool is up, but for now the active market is the LTC market. Definitely people buying there before it goes back up. Thanks for the info. At one of the referenced coins they said, 'can't go lower than 1 sat' my reply was: 'sure you can when you move from btc to ltc'; so I realize the cow can continue to get milked in that way; notwithstanding my research is limited to btc and the respective coins not lite. thanks again This guy is an aimless troll. EMC2 and DIEM are his target "research." Nevermind the fact that DIEM has had the highest volume of trading in the LTC market. He only "researches" BTC markets. Very crypto. He obviously refuses to acknowledge that DIEM is not moving from BTC to LTC, but the opposite way around. Makes one want to buy the domain he has for sale for such a low price: 9 www.CRYPTOCURRENCYINDUSTRY.COM $50,000. You GAY and clearly off your old-naggin-bitch meds.
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Holy shit we cracked the big 5-0 look at cryptsy!! That price chart is beautiful lmao!
oh, sorry about that, I thought it would be a good place to jump in webuycryptocurrency.com we also accept HBN for Apple itunes gift cards, and most other gift cards sold in the USA, some at face value some at higher or lower than face value, let me know what you want I provide same day quote and delivery.
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Well I always wanted to know what happens when a CC's value sinks to 1 sat, now I get to see it live. I was told that once a CC hits 2 sat it would never rise out of it, I understood that rationale, but never understood how it could get to a point of ZERO buy orders, given that is DIEM's present condition at Poloniex my analysis is in full swing.
You're not seeing any buy orders because you're looking at the wrong market. Poloniex opened up the BTC market a couple of days before the pool went down. Buy orders might move in there once the new pool is up, but for now the active market is the LTC market. Definitely people buying there before it goes back up. Thanks for the info. At one of the referenced coins they said, 'can't go lower than 1 sat' my reply was: 'sure you can when you move from btc to ltc'; so I realize the cow can continue to get milked in that way; notwithstanding my research is limited to btc and the respective coins not lite. thanks again
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notice anything?
Even though it is not posted, the site ONLY allows a specific minimum, however notice the value 'protecting' the lower value under it; also notice on the other side the same situation, these are perfect example of improper use of bots. Btw they stayed there for a prolonged period of time, so they are not simply spacer bots, or tempo bots, or tag bots, or notice bots, but shield bots to strongly encourage higher values on both sides instead of 'fair' trading by the actual traders.
Although, that could be a bot from the exchange, that is not the only explanation. You can simply buy/sell 99% of an existing order, in which, case the remaining 1% would add up to a quantity too low to trade. That was the reason given by the site, I have not seen much bot like activity at the site so I tend to believe that was indeed the case. thanks
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