yep! shares to go to 3 BTC: 446 selling 448 shares instead, would go down to... 2.45501 BTC Which is interesting, because that's basically the price were it had been trading in a more or less stable way for a little more than 2 weeks, before this recent rise... |
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OMGWTF why are people pointing him to BFL? Are you crazy?
Don't buy from butterfly labs!! They are known liars, and are up to 10 months late in delivery! They might never ship!
I can't believe you really pointed him there, trolling is one thing, trolling his money quite another...
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I would like just to see the threat of an arbitrary testnet reset taken away so that the network can go in whatever direction it might.
But that would completely defeat the purpose of testnet. The whole point of testnet is having no value, if you want to test something that might have value, use an altcoin... |
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His opinion added no value to the thread, so there was no business to conduct with him in the first place.
This thread isn't about having a discussion about what he thinks is stupid or not-stupid.
It's a market place for buyers/sellers to communicate and conduct ethical business.
Yes, but accidents happen, and if this is your way to react to such a simple post, then how could I trust you with conducting a business, interacting with customers, and so forth? |
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You just proved why Bitcoin doesn't work for the masses.
Extract from Bitspend:
"Low Fees
Our low fees ensure that nothing stands in the way of you spending your Bitcoins anywhere you want.
Orders up to $50 can be placed for a small $2 fee. Need to order something larger? No problem! There are no limits."
So you can spend Bitcoin for a 4% fee! Wow thats brilliant and so much easier than simply spending Fiat in cash or on cards with ZERO fee!
(emphasis added)The problem is not Bitcoin, the problem is Bitspend. |
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You are an idiot for talking for no reason.
What a nice way to conduct a business...  |
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Sounds way too good to be true. How can you possibly afford to pay $140 commison on a $10 sale?
+1 obvious scam is obvious |
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In "My Value Analysis" tab the "Total Paid" does not include the fee, which might be a bit misleading — especially considering that "My Trades" tab includes it instead.
Is this intentional?
If it is, at least some kind of small warning would be nice.
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MINING is a BAD investment if bought at too high a price (and PMBs bought for much more per MH/S are even worse). It is a GOOD investment if bought cheaply (and PMBs bought for much more per MH/S are worse) . The same is true for SELLING - whether it is a good buy or not depends on what you pay for it. This fund is about allowing investors to effectively bet based on where they believe the correct price split lies - in the process the market is also defining what it believes the cost of 5 MH/S of PMB to be worth.
PMBs are NOT inherently a bad investment by design. They're a bad investment if bought at too high a price. Nearly all PMBs have been sold at prices where investors will not ever make back what they paid.
In other words, " price is paramount". Anyone who isn't familiar with this concept would better at least read this article (though this post by Deprived is already a good explanation). |
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I am assuming that if this happens, the orderbook would be cleared out, otherwise people would suddenly find their 0.3 btc offers filled with shares only worth 0.03 btc.
Obviously all the offers would be multiplied as well. |
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Who buys SELLING @ 0.044? Better buy PURCHASE, convert and then sell MINING, this way you can get SELLING < 0.04 at current rates...
True, but converting takes time, and during that time the prices might have already adjusted. |
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The problem is that one particular moderator here supports homosexuals, maybe he is queer himself. The problem is that homosexuality is wrong and people who support this wrong thing are allowed to speak freely, but people who don't like homosexuality and oppose them are silenced by post deletion.
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Not sure if one security merits it though but could be handy for a bitcointalk area
It does, for the simple reason that people are posting here in this thread, instead. |
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IMHO, the fair value of MINING would be < 0,01  I've made a slightly higher estimate, but definitely < 0.02. To be profitable at current prices the difficulty should increase no more than ~5% each step... |
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This thread has derailed to btc-e trollbox where everyone keeps on speculating about 0.0001 changes in asicminer passthrough prices. If people want to fill up 3 pages with mindless chatter about this then they should start a thread about this.
This is a 386 pages thread, which makes no sense at all. It should have been closed and opened as a full subforum long ago. |
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man, that's very interesting. what a game changer. thanks for sharing
Stop trolling here and polluting this thread, go away. |
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Mi pare che gli acquisti tramite postepay ottengano prezzi decisamente più alti di quello di mercato, addirittura se non erro si sono toccati i 110€ quando su mtgox si era a 75€...
Ora, se le cose stessero così, mi metterei al volo a vendere anch'io in questo modo, ma ovviamente se il prezzo è più alto un motivo ci deve essere, e me ne sovvengono due:
1. comodità per l'acquirente (che per qualche motivo suo non ha voglia di passare tramite exchange)
2. rischio per il venditore
Se fosse il primo ok, mentre riguardo al secondo è bene esser consci dei rischi. Per cui... che rischi ci sono? Supporta il chargeback? Supporta un basso volume d'affari? Viola i TOS?
Inoltre mi chiedevo come può funzionare un escrow in tal senso, ovvero, come potrebbe l'escrow controllare che io ho ricevuto il pagamento, e di conseguenza rigirare i BTC all'acquirente? È necessario effettuare presso di lui entrambi i passaggi, dunque, senza alcun contatto diretto?
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Then you wouldn't mind to tell us what the one-time dividend for SELLING will be after the difficulty has risen to e.g. 19,200,000  : Current MINING div 0.00016113 Difficulty change 19'402'467.47/15'605'632.68 = 1.24329899773 New MINING div 0.00016113/1.24329899773 = .000129599 Current assets 734.18617511 Current units 11630 Asset/unit 0.06312865 410 with new MINING div .000129599 * 410 = 0.05313559 400 with new MINING div .000129599 * 400 = 0.05183960 Excess asset/unit 0.06312865 - 0.05183960 = 0.01128905 |
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