One of the biggest thing is for companies and non-profits to show that they are legit and are legitimately using the BTC for their charitable purposes. In other words there need to be more proof that the non-profit is really receiving the Bitcoin. This stuff about unlocking their computer sounds like total BS to be honest...
Wow, is it really that fricken hard to use Google?? Aside from not knowing how to do an internet search, do you not know how to send an email or make a phone call either? I did post the contact info for the charity in the OP, did you not see it? Since people have such a hard time searching something to find out if they even know what they're talking about before attempting to discredit someone, and potentially causing a very well known, well meaning charity to loose donations, I'll give a hypothetical situation that might put into perspective why one would be inclined to pay a ransom to retrieve the contents of their computer. Say I was able to somehow hack into your computer and find a folder that contained the only copy you had of your Bitcoin private key to a wallet containing 1,000 Bitcoin. I encrypt said folder with a 4096 PGP key with a 40 character pass phrase. I then send you an email stating if you send me one Bitcoin, I will send you the password to decrypt your folder. What would you do? Would you take your computer to your local computer geek and ask him to crack the password?? Well, who knows you probably would think that you could just do that.  You do realize anyone can make a website, put pictures on it, put legit stuff on it, make if fully working, then ask for donations. Anyone can also answer a phone and pretend to be "anyone". I have made websites in some of my college courses and it isn't that hard to copy and paste source code from another website, register your own website, call it whatever the hell you want to make it seem legit, then grab a bunch of legit looking things. Granted you gotta shell out some money to host it and all that. Just because you have "trust" on a forum doesn't mean you won't scam other people. Guess what, I am verified on http://www.robotzindisguise.com/forum/showthread.php?9439-PP-irobut-s-Gold-Shop-55-M and could easily scam anyone I want. I don't do that though because I am a decent person. My forum footprint on there is way larger than yours on here. I got unlimited botting for Runescape by competing in a very very LONG competition while working with tons of other people. So before you start lecturing us to just "fucking trust me bro I am a Hero member" how about you don't. I have seen people with more trust and higher rank and whatever scam people. Doesn't matter how much you are trusted, people really go out of their way to scam, and it is ALWAYS tempting to someone who isn't 100% against scamming. You're the one who red flagged yourself by saying a story that pretty much sounds like bullshit and might convince others. You legit had no reason to even mention that story, except to show some kind of Bravado/humble bragging. People who do that are not the people I classify as 100% trustworthy in my own experience, which severely out ranks what you have most likely been through. just mah 2 sentz doe, nah'm Saiyan? You do realize there's a site called http://archive.org/web/web.php don't you? |
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I'm really really not getting it.
So far as I can see, you've proved the following:
1. Any asset traded on a BTC exchange does not have the level of government protection that shares traded on the NYSE do.
2. That a couple of brothers are hustling really hard to build their businesses.
3. That they occasionally use profane language on internet chat rooms.
4. That the person they used to incorporate their business is shady.
5. That one of the brothers used to own an SEO company.
6. That the price of RENT shares is extremely volatile.
I'm impressed with your ability to dig up background info, BTW. That takes a lot of skill.
I'm unable to draw a line from these factoids to the inference that this somehow proves fraudulent intent. All of this just sounds like the normal activity of starting a company.
** I think everybody with money on Havelock understands clearly that no small business really should be a publicly traded company (just on the basis that they're too new and too small, and the underlying economic model isn't proven), that there have been numerous instances of fraud and poor enforcement, and that there's a significant element of risk.
What are the odds? http://www.dcirules.org/resources/french/MTG_PEIP-10_10Feb01_FR.pdf http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=grandprix/hongkong04/factsPLAYER CONTACT
David Ong
Territory Manager, Far East
david.ong@wizards.com
TOURNAMENT
The main tournament at Grand Prix–Hong Kong is open to Magic players of all ages. The Magic: The Gathering® Grand Prix tournament series is an international circuit of large-scale Qualifier tournaments featuring cash prizes and multiple invitations to Pro TourTM events. |
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Yada yada, lots of screenshots etc etc.
What is your point?
It seems like it should be obvious that Full Power Asia Investment is a shell company set up in Hong Kong to work around the legalities of having a US based company selling equity shares. Brandon and Benny are brothers, so it makes sense that Ben would ask Branny for a reference to a firm that sets up companies in Hong Kong, thus they both end up with shell corps created by the same person. I don't see any wrongdoing here?
My differently-enabled friend! The "virtual units" you hold are not in Benny or Branny, but in Full Power Asia Investment LTD, controlled by DAVID CHONG SIN ONG, a petty crook. Branny had repeatedly lied about the legitimacy and legality of this offering. Working towards the greater good (though primarily towards the good of *my* Bitcoin), I have explained to Branny that I would let this turd lie, as long as his brother Benny didn't try to bring more fail and aids into the community. But the ruinous combination of greed and stupidity got the better of Branny, and he opted to call my bluff. Which was, tragically for Brandon and contrary to the statement below, not a bluff. ...Anyway, I wouldn't worry about it Branny. This one dude and his arsenal of misc accounts isn't going to get the SEC motivated anymore than the thousands of other jackballs reporting things on their website... Now you will learn firsthand the drawbacks of "investing" in HK shells vs legitimate firms, in a way that no explanation of mine, no matter how eloquent, could have matched. ~Happy Investing! P.S: It's happening.  Remember a while back someone mentioned that while the price is in the toilet, there are no substantial sells? Now there are  Compare to the bids  For those wondering how long Brandon Schlichter knew David Ord, wonder no longer: https://www.facebook.com/darkdave3000 |
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A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=3126.msg162342#msg162342We're trying to negotiate the boat (no, literally). There are a few lakes around the county we could take shareholders to for leisure trips as needed (assuming the boat works - I don't believe I've been on a boat before).
@Happy - My brother runs RentalStarter, and has a maintenance/construction crew that can be utilized for any repairs or rehabilitation. Because of this, we can leverage a work-for-rent schema that would allow us to mark down any repair or renovation costs significantly, and keep all such things in-house. Will we need to dedicate funds to the building to get it up-to-date? Absolutely. But if we mortgage the property, we could easily be in a situation where we may have to divert less than $150,000 USD from IPO funds to cover purchase + rehabilitation (then tack on the ~$4000/mo fee for mortgage/taxes/insurance). $4,000/mo we can swing even with the current slump.
Due to my brother being a Real Estate agent, we've discussed ways of "Tying up" the building in legal contracts that would give us 90+ days to find a lender and mortgage the property. If we went that route, we'd have plenty of time to get true costs evaluated before making the dive.  April 24, 2014: Benny speaks about the purchase of the 68,000 sq ft facility and how his Twinie will lease part of the it. January 03, 2014: Branny (Brandon Schlichter) talks about some unknown already interested in leasing the same exact facility that his Twinie is looking into purchasing. June 12, 2014: The 68,000 sq ft facility in question is sold at auction supposedly to Benjamin Schlichter. And I, among others, are the motherfuckin' assholes for bringing this truism to light, with Brothers Schlick's cocksuckin' buddies givin' us negative trust for our efforts. These fuckers don't have a motherfuckin' clue that they're only one phone call away from no longer ministering to youths in the basement of their Holy-rollin' Pentecostal church. At the moment, I'm one pissed-off Bitcoiner. |
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Lucy was our raper, the schtupped öyster; verboten porn reject in Lackawanna - siphoning eaten occasional intercourse, like it was lost by a maniac bedlamite on LSD who rode down the streets (for it is on Whoppers that our penny-farthings ride), cackling by the gibbosity, and quizzically agitating Gleb the flame of the fire that swarmed against the women.
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Just so Brandon Schlichter's investors know where their money may be going.
https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=3126.msg162342#msg162342We're trying to negotiate the boat (no, literally). There are a few lakes around the county we could take shareholders to for leisure trips as needed (assuming the boat works - I don't believe I've been on a boat before).
@Happy - My brother runs RentalStarter, and has a maintenance/construction crew that can be utilized for any repairs or rehabilitation. Because of this, we can leverage a work-for-rent schema that would allow us to mark down any repair or renovation costs significantly, and keep all such things in-house. Will we need to dedicate funds to the building to get it up-to-date? Absolutely. But if we mortgage the property, we could easily be in a situation where we may have to divert less than $150,000 USD from IPO funds to cover purchase + rehabilitation (then tack on the ~$4000/mo fee for mortgage/taxes/insurance). $4,000/mo we can swing even with the current slump.
Due to my brother being a Real Estate agent, we've discussed ways of "Tying up" the building in legal contracts that would give us 90+ days to find a lender and mortgage the property. If we went that route, we'd have plenty of time to get true costs evaluated before making the dive. April 24, 2014: Benny speaks about the purchase of the 68,000 sq ft facility and how his Twinie will lease part of the it. January 03, 2014: Branny (Brandon Schlichter) talks about some unknown already interested in leasing the same exact facility that his Twinie is looking into purchasing. June 12, 2014: The 68,000 sq ft facility in question is sold at auction supposedly to Benjamin Schlichter. And I, among others, are the motherfuckin' assholes for bringing this truism to light, with Brothers Schlick's cocksuckin' buddies givin' us negative trust for our efforts. These fuckers don't have a motherfuckin' clue that they're only one phone call away from no longer ministering to youths in the basement of their Holy-rollin' Pentecostal church. At the moment, I'm one pissed-off Bitcoiner. |
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And the hits keep on a comin'! A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=3126.msg162342#msg162342We're trying to negotiate the boat (no, literally). There are a few lakes around the county we could take shareholders to for leisure trips as needed (assuming the boat works - I don't believe I've been on a boat before).
@Happy - My brother runs RentalStarter, and has a maintenance/construction crew that can be utilized for any repairs or rehabilitation. Because of this, we can leverage a work-for-rent schema that would allow us to mark down any repair or renovation costs significantly, and keep all such things in-house. Will we need to dedicate funds to the building to get it up-to-date? Absolutely. But if we mortgage the property, we could easily be in a situation where we may have to divert less than $150,000 USD from IPO funds to cover purchase + rehabilitation (then tack on the ~$4000/mo fee for mortgage/taxes/insurance). $4,000/mo we can swing even with the current slump.
Due to my brother being a Real Estate agent, we've discussed ways of "Tying up" the building in legal contracts that would give us 90+ days to find a lender and mortgage the property. If we went that route, we'd have plenty of time to get true costs evaluated before making the dive. April 24, 2014: Benny speaks about the purchase of the 68,000 sq ft facility and how his Twinie will lease part of the it. January 03, 2014: Branny (Brandon Schlichter) talks about some unknown already interested in leasing the same exact facility that his Twinie is looking into purchasing. June 12, 2014: The 68,000 sq ft facility in question is sold at auction supposedly to Benjamin Schlichter. And I, among others, are the motherfuckin' assholes for bringing this truism to light, with Brothers Schlick's cocksuckin' buddies givin' us negative trust for our efforts. These fuckers don't have a motherfuckin' clue that they're only one phone call away from no longer ministering to youths in the basement of their Holy-rollin' Pentecostal church. At the moment, I'm one pissed-off Bitcoiner. |
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Benjamin Schlichter of Circleville, OHIO, has yet to produce a John Kenton Freeman in spite of now trying to amass $1M-$1M USD via BTC for his HASH (not drugs) fund. In the past three hours, Benny1985 has deleted no less than 60 posts from his self-moderated HASH thread to hide from his Church bothers and sisters his connections to the online gambling and porn industry. Damn, if I only knew how SEO works. Ask Brandon, wait that business of his failed to lol Wait, what! I saw his video on he was showing people how they too can earn $8,000/day with his SEO plan. How the fuck could it have failed? One more lie outta you and you'll be the first person on my ignore list.  |
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Benjamin Schlichter of Circleville, OHIO, has yet to produce a John Kenton Freeman in spite of now trying to amass $1M-$1M USD via BTC for his HASH (not drugs) fund. In the past three hours, Benny1985 has deleted no less than 60 posts from his self-moderated HASH thread to hide from his Church bothers and sisters his connections to the online gambling and porn industry. Damn, if I only knew how SEO works. |
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Benjamin Schlichter of Circleville, OHIO, has opted to delete my posts (40+ and counting), among others, from his HASH (not drugs) thread, probably because he doesn't want his brothers and sisters at his church see his gambling and porn connections due to he and his brother, Brandon Schlichter, ministering to their children in the basement of their church. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Sadly, MrStickBall opts to play HardBall. |
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Absolutely! Nice volume today, too. Plenty of sells. Havelock a bit hard to get a hold of, but if you just pound F5... Last price was .0030 Fallin' Fast Fallin' fast
Heaven help us if I'm wrong
But we're givin' it the gas
Soon, comin' on strong
Don't loose your grip
Though it may not stand a chance
We're comin' on stronggggg
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http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rKHdTQ_tfhgJ:cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/03/27_havelock-the-new-glbse-or-the-rentalstarter-scam.html+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=usHavelock - The New GLBSE (or, The Rentalstarter Scam)
The Bitcoin Exchange Scam works a little bit like this:
- open an "exchange" where people "list" "companies"
- exercise some form of quality control at the beginning of the scam to give the whole operation a veneer of credibility
- gradually relax whatever originally passed for "quality control", allowing basically anyone to "list" an "asset"
- do everything in ones power to drive up the volume, as the exchange makes money on trades
- allow anyone to list anything
- do crazy things like suspend trading on an asset to sell a "tranche" at a higher price than the market could ever bear
Havelock has let at least one operation (VirtEx) straight up walk with suckers cash. VirtEx listed on Havelock to raise funds to build out their platform, promised dividends and failed to deliver them. Six or eight months later (the timeline is unclear, because scam operators have no incentive to provide records for future audits), the Havelock operators unceremoniously de-listed the VirtEx asset, and all owners of VirtEx shares were quite fucked.
This morning brings a new chapter to the current incarnation of the Scam Exchange:
<the20year3> HL will automatically suspend all buy orders under .0075, so all buys have to go in at .0075
Quite the twist! We're going to suspend trading so that we can sell a pile of paper at a grossly inflated valuation. The market is currently pricing H.RENT1 at 0.005250302. The plan is apparently to freeze trading on the existing asset and list a new asset - "IPO" style - that sells at a fixed price for a fixed duration. More likely than not by the time this second "round" completes, everyone involved will have forgotten the crimes committed and moved on to burning their BTC in some other chumpatronic fire.
Havelock. Considered harmful.
Footnotes:
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A company that buys land cheaply in Ohio and then rents it out for an apparently fantastic return. HAVELOCK:RENT is a short on BTC with a crazy leg through the US property market in Ohio out to USD. Great play when BTC is slipping, as it has been lo these several months. We'll see how long this trend holds, as new players are showing up en masse on the daily in #bitcoin-assets again.
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<benkay> !t h rent
<assbot> [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00525030 / 0.00536113 / 0.00562740 (907 shares, 4.86254898 BTC), 7D: 0.00520970 / 0.00540361 / 0.00563480 (3139 shares, 16.96192014 BTC), 30D: 0.00510111 / 0.00555895 / 0.00900001 (47528 shares,264.20559875 BTC) Thanks to the following link where content was source - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-03-2014&bots=true - I can present to you kind folks the bestest Popcorn Time Meme known to man, albeit NSFW or youths who attend Sunday School in Circleville, OHIO: http://31.media.tumblr.com/e6dc76047ffec4f107c5d9e99de80c14/tumblr_ml1px0eVbl1sn68hmo1_1280.jpg
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A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Embarrassing? You bet. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. 07-29 12:10:35 15 @ .022 07-29 12:10:36 27 @ .022 07-29 12:13:35 2 @ .022 07-29 12:14:43 50 @ .022 07-29 12:18:01 45 @ .022 07-29 12:18:40 10 @ .022 07-29 12:18:44 3 @ .022 07-29 12:19:22 5 @ .022 07-29 12:22:49 8 @ .022 07-29 12:27:26 1 @ .022 07-29 12:27:36 2 @ .022 07-29 12:49:47 1 @ .022 07-29 12:54:26 1 @ .022 07-29 12:56:25 5 @ .022 07-29 13:01:21 8 @ .022 07-29 13:21:34 1 @ .022 07-29 13:29:33 3 @ .022 07-29 13:32:13 1 @ .022 07-29 13:47:31 3 @ .022 07-29 15:37:41 20 @ .022 07-29 16:27:59 3 @ .022 07-29 16:43:20 1 @ .022 07-29 18:24:45 1 @ .022 07-29 19:37:47 1 @ .022 07-30 02:41:53 2 @ .022 07-30 02:58:28 1 @ .022 07-30 03:36:57 2 @ .022 07-30 05:24:42 2 @ .022 07-30 05:27:34 2 @ .022 07-30 05:45:38 2 @ .022 07-30 07:01:37 10 @ .022 Looks like all of the greater fools are already spoken for  @Benny: Why did you delete this? This info is publicly available through Havelock's API. My script simply cleans up it up to make it readable. Another post of mine that was deleted by another totally legit guy, Mr. Kenneth Slaughter of Active Mining, in HIS self-moderated thread (just noticed it in my messages): A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic... +1. all i see is relatively small hashrate with some crazy variance going on - looks like vardiff>1024 using <500GH That is what you should see, this is our first prototype board off of the line. We are building more. Post some pics. Tell people whose chips you're using. Thanks. Better add theMiracle to your list, Benny, for he's quoting posts you're deleting. Looks like this is going to be your new full time job - deleting posts. Best order some Red Bull from Joshua Zipkin, for it's goin' be a long one. |
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All of the "listed" BTC companies (Havelock or anywhere else) are selling a "profit share", not an actual part ownership of the company. This is fully disclosed though. I don't think anyone on here finds this surprising.
BTW, thanks for the Howey Test video. It's a good explanation.
No. From the prospectus: RentalStarter is issuing a total of 300,000 units of our Fund for purchase to the public.
This total represents 30% of the company, which is of a total of 1,000,000 units.
In short, a "unit" represents 1/1,000,000th of Full Power Asia Investment LTD, operated by DAVID CHONG SIN ONG. Who is a failed third-rate scammer. Who has websites dedicated to exposing him: http://davidchongsinong.wordpress.com/In all likelihood, dead broke. TL;DR: The shares listed on Havelock represent NOTHING. They are neither shares of Branny, RentalStarter, Your New Home LLC, Benny, ...but a dude with SIN baked right into his name. . Yep! And you, AO and I are the assholes for bringing all this to light. I'm 54 years old and have NO PROBLEM playing the asshole in this here Bitcoin space, especially when it comes to two holier-than-thou Brothers Schlick who argue the Bible on IRC, but on the same channel speak of hookers and blow and gambling, having websites of said (sans blow I believe), then come Sunday minister to the youth in the basement of their Church in the Heartland, namely Circleville, OHIO. For all we know, their 68,000 sq ft, 3+ acre spread (still no proof Benny won the auction and still is seeking the remainder ~$300K to satisfy the auction terms) may be used to play hide-n-seek with said youths.  Brandon is on record in stating that he uses Facebook to help vet his tenants, but doesn't use the internet to vet his director of RENT. To date, Benny is still trying to hunt down his director, John Kenton Freeman, for his HASH. Their lawyer gives them one advice, but they go to IRC seeking others, eventually going with what was espoused on the latter. |
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Lucy was our darkcoiner, the schtupped öyster; verboten porn reject in Lackawanna - siphoning at occasional intercourse, like it was lost by a maniac bedlamite on LSD who rode down the streets (for it is on Whoppers that our penny-farthings ride), cackling by the gibbosity, and fiercely agitating Gleb the flame of the fire that swarmed against the people.
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