there's 200k coins they salvaged, I suspect that's all there was left.
I know, what I was saying is that at one point it is very possible at gox were 650k coins or at least regularly should be (if not stolen before): deposits - regular (not stolen) withdrawals. Not sure why you think there should be, but maybe. At one point, when gox USD withdrawals stopped working, they started leaking BTC and I suppose that balance quickly shifted to them having close to no coins. PS I frankly have no idea who keeps 150k coins at bitstamp after gox, I guess people never learn. But thanks to them, without these brave souls the price would be manipulated to zero already ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Didn't gox move 400k+ coins in 2011 as proof that these coins belong to them and that they still have control over them? 2011 was quite a long ago. Many things happened meanwhile. And they having 400k+ coins in 2011 different from they control 400k in 2013 or now
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Would be quite stupid to take loan for something and then invest money into things like is bitcoin today.
Rule: never afford what you can't lose Fact: if you borrow money, it is because you don't have the money. Consequence: lose the money would be something not really affordable. Therefore, borrow money to put on BTC is bad, today, yesterday or tomorrow.
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Any game where I can gain more than with faucets?
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Rule 1, never take girl advice from a girl.
Source, 20 years experience.
It is a corollary from rule 0: never trust anyone's advices and always takes into account the possibility they are trying to deceive you, wether counsicous or unconsciously. Anything coming from a girl about girl behaviors will be biased in the source.
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It is just a preparation for the weekend dump.
More cheap(or at least cheaper than mid week) coins at the weekend, as usual.
Wondering how big the wall will be this time, and where it will appear this time
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I think we gonna see a pattern similar to what happend the 8th july of 2013 We gonna have a spike the coming days to 410 then a few days later a beartrap down to 330-340 before we ultimately keep going up and going into our next bubble ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I doubt we will see a spike to 410 in the coming days. People too afraid. Plus we have the sell pressure, greater tha in 2013
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why no one said that fake bitcoins caused the rise to up 1000 level?
Only when prices drop it is fake and manipulation. When it goes up, it is just the natural stuff
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I got permission from the wife to buy 500 coins if the price drops to $200.
You have a very smart wife! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) She know how to make profit to buy some new bag or shoes ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) But I highly doubt that we will see $200 - if yes I will sell everything what I have (not a lot, maybe for few coins...) and I will buy as much as possible ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) People said that sub 400 are impossible, and laughed when someone said we would hit sub 300 level. At this point I don't dare to claim anything impossible. I will only buy after some time of stabilization, after I'm convinced we are not in bear trap mode
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Why do we care anyways, we can call it however we want that wont change what it is, a giant rock
Earth is a giant rock. not as could as pluto, though
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Bitfinix touching 300 again. okcoin & lakebtc already back over 300.
beartrapped... i hope only few bear was trapped bitfinix now 305. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) They got tired of waiting for bitstamp. Chinese are sleeping atm. Wait until they wake up and panic sell everything
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so does anybody know what may be causing this price decline?
The price decline. yes. People are not buying because they fear the price will fall even more, and cause of this prices keep falling or don't rise. It is a vicious circle hard to break
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So what are the predictions for the future?
Sub 100 level? Or will we recover?
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Its like we time traveled back to 2013 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fd%2Fdb%2FBack_to_the_Future_%28time_travel_test%29_with_Michael_J._Fox_as_Marty_McFly.jpg&t=663&c=7ANwFyzzGH6Ydw) But in reversal.
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OMG Bitstamp at 275 and btc-e at 290.
The world is upside down
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Happened.
Sub 300 on btc-e and bitstamp.
Seems more and more like a bubble burst.
But it being a bubble does not means BTC is useless and will die. Even Internet had its bubble.
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I guess the other scam from the some people from cyptcominer?
Anyway seems like they already ran away
You mean, the guys from the Tradefocus campaign? If they are indeed the same people that were behind Cryptcominer (which seems likely), they will probably be back on Monday - I think they said at some point they didn't work weekends. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Last time they stopped to pay on weekend, too. I checked them out, they are most likely a complete scam. most likely? lol Everyone knows they are scam, even those that are in the campaign. The question is how long until they disappear with all money and when will they stop to pay the signature.
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Seems 300's will be broken any time soon.
Ready to buy at sub 200
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What is the direct relation between the events?
Also hong kong is just part of china, so I doubt they are related in any way
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Bitcoin broke 360. But in the wrong direction ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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I'll admit I had high hopes for btc, but the last bubble has no reason to repeat itself. Very good point. The last bubble, from about $120 to $1100, was driven by the use of Bitcoin in China to get around China's exchange controls. Once the People's Bank of China stopped that, the price started back down. Probably not. Did you read the Willy Report? They are only rumors. But chinese exchanges have the biggest volumes, even now
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