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1781  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: gpu bubble well and truly bursting on: July 13, 2017, 05:26:29 PM
Newegg and other retailers like Microcenter in the US have jacked up their GPU prices by 40% e.g. this Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4GB that I bought for $190 a month ago is now listed by Newegg for $270.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131717&ignorebbr=1

This will curb purchases for reselling, but just like the last GPU run-up in 2014, don't expect prices to come down anytime soon. Especially since GPU mining is more profitable now that it has been historically, including 6 months ago.
1782  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ETH - MINING - PRICE - GRAPHIC CARDS? on: July 13, 2017, 09:30:25 AM
Price is only one factor when mining and is only relevant to those who trade or sell what they mine. More important is difficulty, which has a direct impact in the number of coins you can accumulate through mining.
1783  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] AMD Ryzen 5 1600 help on: July 13, 2017, 08:50:05 AM
thanks for your answer

i have installed a Ubuntu virtual machine in windows 10 and running the CPU miner with about ~300 H/s

really don´t understand why its not working in windows that fast

You need to increase the virtual memory in Windows to at least 16 GB and enable the lock pages in memory.

https://youtu.be/VZGFl5xJbkE?t=3079

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms190730(v=sql.105).aspx
1784  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: zotac gtx 1070 amp edition vs msi gtx1070 gaming x on: July 13, 2017, 08:38:12 AM
You won't get a better 1070 than the Zotac AMP Extreme. Massively over engineered.

35 MH/s 1070!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZGFl5xJbkE&feature=youtu.be&t=5830
1785  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Minig start... but what? on: July 13, 2017, 08:01:50 AM
Thanks for the advice I certainly did not know her. Could you give me a guide where you can figure out how to start mining Dash?

Don't listen to the trolls, they just don't want you to mine. Dash has been taken over by ASIC's for years and is NOT profitable for GPU mining. RX 550's are not very good mining cards, but I would suggest downloading the NiceHash miner and running the benchmark. That will give you your rigs hashrate for different algorithms and you can then use a profitability calculator to see what are the most profitable coins for your rig.

https://whattomine.com
1786  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: powering the risers safely..info needed on: July 12, 2017, 07:49:10 PM
That double-sata adapter is actually an 8pin PCI connector.

I think what alot of people are doing is not wanting to use as many cables as possible on their modular PSU.  So they hook up 3 risers to a single PSU cable (sata, sata, molex) and then the other 3 to another cable.  Whereas you can split two risers between three PSU cables instead...



It's a 6+2 PCI-e connector, so you can use it as a 6 pin or an 8 pin connector. You should NEVER use more than two risers per PSU cable when powering risers from SATA or molex PSU cables.
1787  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: powering the risers safely..info needed on: July 12, 2017, 07:34:09 PM
I use 6-pin PCI-E risers. Three thicker wires that are designed to spread a higher 12V load instead of two used by molex and sata connectors. The 6-pin risers also use four capacitors for a more stable current flow compared to the three used by the molex and sata risers. The good ones also come with a voltage regulator to prevent spikes. I also see there are new 6-pin risers that have 6 capacitors.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-PCI-1x-to-16x-Powered-Express-Riser-Board-USB3-0-PCI-E-Extender-SATA-Adapter/32818329646.html?

It's also possible to power 6-pin risers using a double Sata to 6-pin connector. Powered risers use ~50W each, so using two Sata connectors which are rated to 54W each is a safe way to power risers.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10pcs-Dual-SATA-15pin-to-8pin-PCI-E-Power-Supply-Cable-for-video-card-2-SATA/32816826373.html?

There are also dual molex to 6-pin connectors

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4Pcs-High-Quality-2-x-Molex-To-PCI-E-Power-Adapter-4Pin-4-Pin-6-Pin/32759205876.html?

Just remember to never power more than two risers per SATA or 4-pin Molex PSU cable MAX. Using more more than that, you are overloading the rail and can damage the PSU, cables, connectors or all of them.

1788  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I need cheap solutions for 6 - 7 card GPU on: July 12, 2017, 07:11:45 PM

ASRock H81 PRO BTC R2.0 - $80


 Why do folks insist on recommending a board that has been OUT OF PRODUCTION AND IN VERY SHORT SUPPLY (when you can find them at ALL?) for 2+ years now?


 For reference, Intel stopped making the chipset that board uses ballpark *4* years back.



Says who, you? The board is available and has been all week, which is why I recommended it as a cheap motherboard specifically made for mining with 6 cards. Do you have a better suggestion for a board in that price range that supports 6 cards and is available?
1789  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I need cheap solutions for 6 - 7 card GPU on: July 12, 2017, 11:25:30 AM
Here are some other motherboards that are known to work with 6-7 GPU's:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970334.0
1790  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I need cheap solutions for 6 - 7 card GPU on: July 12, 2017, 10:34:00 AM
Why? Brand new 6 card setup for ~$165:

ASRock H81 PRO BTC R2.0 - $80

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157724

Intel Celeron G1840 Processor - BX80646G1840 - $54

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Celeron-G1840-Processor-BX80646G1840/dp/B00J2LIE9C

CORSAIR Vengeance 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $33

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145346
1791  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Where to buy GPUs ? on: July 12, 2017, 08:27:56 AM
Yep, aliexpress, alibaba, taobao... bigger than what we've got here it seems people use alipay in the streets now ?

Anyhow Evan, can you share the source to these ? Tia..

EDIT: been around for a few years, like everyone else ? paying via moneygram or whatever BS, it's a no-no, i was thinking we don't even need to say it, but still..


Getting them via Ali baba Vendors.

https://www.alibaba.com/products/RX_580.html

Any recommended seller you already dealt with ?

I wouldn't buy a GPU from Alibaba. Good luck getting warranty service with a card bought from Alibaba. Stores are restocking, but unfortunatly you have to be quick if you want to get them for close to MSRP because they sell out fast. Newegg does have some Powercolor RX 570 4GB cards and Sapphire mining cards in stock

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20601203793%20601206485%20601296377%20601296379%208000&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=36

Nowinstock.net is a free service that will alert you when one of the cards that is tracked comes back in stock.

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx580

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx570
1792  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Any help with links to videos on building mining rings? on: July 12, 2017, 06:31:16 AM
BBT to the rescue, enjoy! Smiley

BBT Livestream21: Building a Ethereum Mining Rig Start to Finish! 6x GTX 1060 :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA_sH4q2toU

Live Episode 26 - Cradle to Grave Windows 10 Ethereum Mining Install:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3XOtQtFKSQ

1793  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RX 570/580 Back in Stock .... and noone's buying on: July 12, 2017, 01:20:29 AM
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.... and noone's buying

Really? I don't know about your local store, but Newegg has zero RX 470/480 or 570/580 cards other than third party sellers. Newegg also had the Sapphire mining cards available earlier today and they sold out within minutes. Nowinstock.net also shows zero cards available.

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx580

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx570


Yeah looks like in USA there is nothing but in Canada there is stock. So either there is less demand here or give it a few days for the supply to replenish for Americans.

Yea, according to AngryChicken on YouTube, it's easier to get get cards for MSRP in Canada.

https://youtu.be/jMEXK-ty3mE?t=557
1794  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RX 570/580 Back in Stock .... and noone's buying on: July 12, 2017, 01:04:30 AM
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.... and noone's buying

Really? I don't know about your local store, but Newegg has zero RX 470/480 or 570/580 cards other than third party sellers. Newegg also had the Sapphire mining cards available earlier today and they sold out within minutes. Nowinstock.net also shows zero cards available.

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx580

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx570
1795  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Zotac new Mining Card P106-100 Arrived + rIG on: July 11, 2017, 10:59:56 PM
p106-100 card is exactly same chip and specifications as for gtx 1060, just a little tweaked clock and memory, you may use 1060 but why use it if you can have hands on 1080 or 1080ti,

those guys at nvidia are making us idiots, first they seperated HPC cards from gaming cards and selling them at enormously high prices, now they seperated card for mining, while actually they are same. I am a researcher, and use GPU's for superconducting simulations, I know how they fooled us by selling k80's and m60's.

because 1080 and 1080Ti aren't so good for mining, and all other cards are basically sold out.
LOL

haha ya the 1080ti is like damn near the best GPU miner money can buy right now Cheesy
these new "miner" cards were because NOONE bought "460" and "1060" so they reused the chips with a rebrand, anyone can see that
or so i thought ;p



If what you said was even close to true, overpriced 1080's and 1080 Ti's wouldn't be the only GPU's there was never an issue with availability anywhere.


Spoken like a true 1070 bag holder Cheesy  

dude they USED to be king but lets do the FACTS TODAY:
--they bring in what 2$ a day each? pfft, hope you have a whole house for your 1070's cause your gonna need that many
--they cost 60% as much at 1080ti, but you lose all that cash easy and more building WHOLE new rigs just to have the SAME HASH (even less in total) as 1080ti buyers :/
-- you end up with 25 rigs that cost the same as MY 12 rigs and i have MORE HASH :/  your crazy if you think 1070 is STILL better today.
-- 1070 will have way less resale, tell me, whats a used 980ti go for now, hmm? 400 USD, STILL. whats a 970 go for? exactly., like 200
-- what are your MAN hours worth? jesus ill keep my 12 rigs over 25, thats a headache in itself...
so have fun with your 1070 scramble starting now and over next 3 months, im sitting pretty on buying 1080ti's 30 days ago, ill easily ROI b4 volta, then get GREAT resale if i chose to sell, and buy Volta Cheesy

oh, and whats your arguement? people buy them? people buy garbage here all the time or is that new to you?

Spoken like a typical buyer of overpriced 1080 Ti's, that's also bad at math!

My argument is pretty clear for anyone that can do basic math and it doesn't require any convoluted prognostications. I mostly have RX 470/580 4GB cards that I bought for between $190 to $230 each and two rigs with a total of 9 cards and less than $2500 spent TOTAL on the two rigs. For the money I spent on my two rigs you can barely buy three 1080 TI's alone, which will give you nowhere near the same amount of hash that I get from my 9 AMD cards. As far a ROI, up until this month the rigs were generating $1000 a month and I'm currently well over half way of having the rigs ROI payed off. If I chose to do so, I could also sell the cards TODAY for ~50% MORE than what I paid for them. Try doing that with a 1080 Ti. That just shows you how badly overpriced 1080 Ti's are as mining cards.  I don't have any 1070's, though regrettably I did buy a 1080 for $500 that I use for Zcash before I found out how overpriced they are for their performance. ROI is going to take A LOT longer on that one.

1796  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Power Consuption for Eth mining rx470 rig on: July 11, 2017, 09:31:38 PM
Dual mining on a mixed RX 570/580 4GB rig I get ~116 MH/s ETH and ~2400 MH/s DCR @ 735W at the wall with a -96 mV undervolt in Afterburner.

Code:
ETH - Total Speed: 115.951 Mh/s, Total Shares: 3828(965+968+1015+970), Rejected: 2, Time: 38:23
ETH: GPU0 28.742 Mh/s, GPU1 29.081 Mh/s, GPU2 29.092 Mh/s, GPU3 29.035 Mh/s
  DCR - Total Speed: 2434.967 Mh/s, Total Shares: 15575(3877+3869+3930+3907), Rejected: 154
  DCR: GPU0 603.589 Mh/s, GPU1 610.709 Mh/s, GPU2 610.935 Mh/s, GPU3 609.734 Mh/s
1797  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Zotac new Mining Card P106-100 Arrived + rIG on: July 11, 2017, 09:20:53 PM
p106-100 card is exactly same chip and specifications as for gtx 1060, just a little tweaked clock and memory, you may use 1060 but why use it if you can have hands on 1080 or 1080ti,

those guys at nvidia are making us idiots, first they seperated HPC cards from gaming cards and selling them at enormously high prices, now they seperated card for mining, while actually they are same. I am a researcher, and use GPU's for superconducting simulations, I know how they fooled us by selling k80's and m60's.

because 1080 and 1080Ti aren't so good for mining, and all other cards are basically sold out.
LOL

haha ya the 1080ti is like damn near the best GPU miner money can buy right now Cheesy
these new "miner" cards were because NOONE bought "460" and "1060" so they reused the chips with a rebrand, anyone can see that
or so i thought ;p



If what you said was even close to true, overpriced 1080's and 1080 Ti's wouldn't be the only GPU's there was never an issue with availability anywhere.
1798  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who is planning to sell their new gpus? on: July 11, 2017, 08:29:39 PM
Why would you want to sell a value producing asset? GPU mining is more profitable now than it has historically been, including 6 months ago. IMO, anyone who would sell their GPU's now got in for the wrong reasons.
1799  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Switch to which altoin for more profitability? on: July 11, 2017, 09:20:26 AM
I would suggest downloading the NiceHash miner and running the benchmark. That will tell you your rigs hash rate for different algorithms. You can then use a profitability caluculator to see what are the best coins to mine.

https://whattomine.com
1800  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: The official lost some cash (and need to find someone to blame) thread on: July 11, 2017, 02:28:32 AM
Ahh snap so bitcoin is dead again?

uh–huh, so is mining. Cheesy
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