I'll probably go for the draw, but I'm tempted to go for a close Leicester win, probably at 1-2. I think there'll be a lot of draws/close games this weekend. Only game I'm interested in watching is the Liverpool/Spurs game. Tottenham will probably be fired up after their Champions League game so I hope Liverpool don't go into it thinking it'll be a walk-over. Liverpool really can't afford to drop any more points before they face City early next month.

Norwich/Man United game also might be worth a watch. If United lose that I think Ollie will be in trouble. Pogba is still out but I think United have a couple of other players returning.

I have a Samsung smart TV. I can't see the App in the Samsung store though but maybe I need to use a proxy for it to show up as I remember the DAZN app wasn't there either when I looked. Did the guy you know need to use a proxy to install it? I guess I could probably just use it via desktop and link it to my TV that way if not as it would be much simpler that way. Using it direct on my TV would be great though.

Happy with my results last night. Although no correct scores I got at least a point from all the games except the Shaktar/Dagreb match. Only three people went for the draw, though nobody got the correct score. Surprisingly, a lot of big scoring games with all Spurs, PSG and Man City all getting 5 goals. I think most of the games today will be a lot closer, or not as many goals scored. Gone for a fair few low-scoring draws but I could be completely off.


Not sure if it's a bug or not but just make sure they're 'saved' and you chose a zero if you're going for no goal to be scored and you should be ok:



It happened to me once or twice I think when I used the app rather than the desktop site. You could even 'lock' your picks just to be safe.

Kodi is just dodgy streams like IPTV etc, right? I'm looking for something more reliable and in HD really. Past streams have just been very laggy, or you spend half the time trying to find a connection that works. I'd happily pay for a legit service but they'll probably never show all the mid day Saturday games over here so I'll have to use one of the companies that do just with a proxy.


Skysports is too expensive and as you say they don't show 3 O'clock games which is what I want it for really. The games I bet on are mostly the mid day games as well.


I have a NORD vpn so I'd be happy to check it out. Do they have an app for smart TVs? Thanks.


Just look who has the streaming rights in all the different countries. The only issue is you'll need a proxy of some sort. ESPN is probably your best bet. They have all the matches with English commentary and for about $65 one off fee: https://www.nbcsports.com/gold/premier-league

The Canadian Dazn has them all as well plus many others leagues and sports for $150 a year: https://watch.dazn.com/en-CA/sports/

A lot of them allow you to watch multiple devices at the same time so I'd be interested in sharing an account with someone of they wanted to spit the price. NBC doesn't but I think dazn allows at least two simultaneous streams.


Yeah, was liking that I was the only one to go for a draw and it was looking like it could come in but they never equalised  .

Not sure if I'm missing something but don't see anything on there. I'm kinda wanting a legit service that allows me to watch stuff directly through my smart TV though. I've had IPTVs and streams in the past but they're so hit and miss. Lots of buffering and stream cuts out if the streams even work at all hence why I'm looking for something reliable.


I'm not sure I'd back Sheff to win but I think it will be close.

Got robbed from a perfect score on the Villa game with an injury time winner.

Should have stuck to my guns on the 1-1, but changed it a few times. When I saw De Gea was back I changed it to 0-1. Liverpool should have had that game easy but at least they got a point from it. All City have to do now is beat Liverpool home and away and they'll be equal on points so this has certainly given City hope. I'd back them to win at home but probably not at Anfield where they'll meet on the tenth of next month.

Does anyone use any legit streaming service to watch Premier League games? A couple of seasons ago there was the Premier League pass but they lost the rights to someone else. I was going to go with Dazn as they show all the matches on their Canadian site along with many other leagues and sports but I read they block most VPNs which would render it useless. Pretty good value at $150 for the season though. Does anyone use it or know of any other services? I know NBC has the rights in the US but they have no other games and I can't seem to sign up even with a VPN so I'm guessing they blocked it. Nord VPN which I use does offer a dedicated IP for the US but not Canada. Don't wan't to get one though unless it works 100%.

It could pay off. I expect most people to back the Liverpool win and a fair few going for draws but it's these sorts of games where you go against the grain where you can grab some points from everyone. If United had their full team out I'd probably go for the draw but depending on the line ups I'll likely back the Liverpool win.


It's worth a shot. I don't think Palace will win but City are obviously a bit shaky right now and Palace will be fired up I reckon. I might put a couple of quid on it depending how well my other bets do today.


One of them being a win at Old Trafford as well.

I think I'll go for the draw on the Everton game but I really hope they win as that will take them out of the relegation zone and one point above Man United  . I think United will lose but they'll likely stay out of the relegation zone as a lot of teams below them will also probably lose or maybe scrape a point at best.

What is "art"?

That was literally one of the questions I got in my general studies exam in college. You had to write an entire essay just on that.


Yeah, I'm terrible at any sort of drawing digitally or in reality. We should be able to submit writings as well. I want to write a sexually explicit fanfic including several bitcointalk members. Or perhaps a half-naked video of an interpretative dance inspired by bitcointalk.



lol. As Malevolent said, just link to it with a NSFW tag.


Any and all probably. Just create what you want.

Here is my submission:



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Don't forget that the league is back on Saturday. 13 people haven't put their scores in but I know a few like to leave them late. Anyone with balls going for a United win vs Liverpool? Still unsure of whether to go for some sort of draw or the straight Liverpool win. I suppose it will come down to the line-ups on the day, especially if De Gea and Pogba are out. I've got a feeling United are going to bounce back at some point and surprise everyone but maybe not this weekend. I hope that Liverpool don't go into the game expecting an easy with because that could backfire.

What's it a derby of? Being in red?


Lukkaku's absence isn't to blame. I don't think he was a good fit for them really. Far too good for Everton but not quite great enough to be world class.


I might go with Spurs, Chelsea and Leicester on my accumulator. I'll see what price boost Skybet offer for their 3'oclock threefold they do.


I don't think there would be much to worry here playing bottom of the table Watford and away as well. They're going to want to bounce back from their last loss.


Them losing to Liverpool probably won't be the final nail in the Solksjaer coffin. Nobody really expects them to win that game really, especially if they've got Pogba and De Gea out. Even with them I would still only expect them to get a point from the game at best. They're playing Norwich away next week and if they drop points from that then I doubt he'll be there much longer. I'm not a fan of sacking managers like this though. They should stick by managers if they have enough faith in them to other hiring them and it's not exactly like Ollie has been doing something that is out of the box.

Ranks are largely meaningless when it comes to trust. Anyone could turn out to be a scammer here or have their account stolen by one so that's why you need to take multiple factors involved and also look at their behaviour and history before you trade with someone. If theymos himself randomly messaged me asking if he could borrow $1000 in bitcoin I wouldn't just blindly send him it because he's a Legendary Admin who's very trusted. A lot of things could be wrong there. The fact that someone like him is even asking for money should set off alarm bells. If someone's password and/or email has been reset recently - even if they're a very reputable member - that should also make you more cautious as to who you're actually dealing with.


You don't have to take the ranks as meaning everything, but they're just a barometer of how long you've been here (and now also how many merits you've received). They can help you in judging a person but they should not be solely relied upon.


Well that's what the feedback system is there for. If you trust or distrust someone you can show that by either leaving them feedback or adding them to your trust list system. Theymos would never implement any sore of KYC verification and even that can be abused or bypassed so all it would lead to is a false sense of security.

Traffic will always be up and down and will correlate with the price falling/spiking and excitement (or lack thereof) in the media, but I don't see why losing traffic would be an issue either. I'd rather there be less people here especially if those that left only care about bitcoin when there's something in it for them or they can earn via posting. I doubt theymos really cares either as he's seemingly not that interested in monetising the forum and that's all that traffic really matters for most. As long as there's enough money coming in to cover outgoings then it shouldn't be an issue, but with the amount of funds the forum has in reserves then that's probably not much of a concern either.

. I really hope United lose. By a lot. I'm still not sure whether to go for the draw or Liverpool win. I'll wait for the line ups before I commit. De Gea could be back by then.


Lukaku and especially Alexis didn't do much when they were there. Pogba is far better than both even given his disappointing form.


Of course they do. Most teams have at 2 extra keepers on their books and will always have one on the bench. Man United's second keeper is Sergio Romero and they also have another reserve in Lee Grant who will likely be on the bench in the next game if De Gea isn't fit.

Well if that's the case and he can't get on top of it he should just walk away and not associate his name with it. The campaign would probably be blacklisted like the last yobit one was if nothing changes and the spam can't be curbed. It's clearly overwhelming right now and they came here with the intention to run their campaign exactly like the last one which is baffling to me.


It's of course a problem when people are forcing them to do that many but what would be the problem with 20 quality posts? People used to far more than that back in the day including me. Even on Chipmixer now people who are doing the max 50 posts a week are probably doing around ten a day. The issue, as it has always been, is just the quality of the posts rather than the quantity and when the campaigns have little to no management or are unlimited then that's when we quickly run into issues and abuse.


It's a job like any other, but people shouldn't be taking on more than they can handle.

There's still so much shit coming from this campaign. Yahoo should talk with them to get them to implement some sort of button where the user has to be accepted by him first before they can earn. If it's still anyone can sign up and get paid immediately it's like opening up the floodgates to a flurry of shit and that's going to be unmanageable for anyone because it will never end.


Getting into bitcoin early can come with misconceptions. I know some people who were here long before me but they kinda blew their beans and sold all their coins at sub $1k. Some even sold most or all of their stash when it hit $100 or even much less. I sold quite a few coins at £1000 and would have had ten times as much if I'd have just waited a few months but I can't complain. Joining a signature campaign also comes with misconceptions (mostly from idiots). It always make me laugh when cryptocunter accuses people of being "broke bums" because they're on a campaign, which I always find ironic because calling people bums when they're earring money is kind of stupid but he needs some sort of ad hominem to try make his arguments. I don't care if I was a billionaire I would still have a signature campaign because I'm not going to throw money away. I don't "need" to be on a campaign but my earnings from this forum sure help me out a lot. Money I've made from this forum will ensure me that I don't ever need to get an extortionate mortgage which was always one of my goals when I got into bitcoin. If I was that rich though I'd probably just give it to charity. I've always admired the superrich people who donate most of their income once they become super wealthy. There's only so much money someone needs and if you're still hoarding wealth when you have hundreds of millions in the bank it becomes kinda of silly and pointless (though what people do with their own money is up to them and their business).


A lot of people live on less than a few dollars a day. Some people live on nothing, so getting paid even a dollar a post is very lucrative to many people (or however much yobit is paying), and lets be honest, would you rather earn money doing backbreaking work or earn the same or even more from making a few posts from the comfort of your own home or wherever they may be doing it from.

That was a decent addition and has probably stopped a lot of people from getting scammed, but on the flipside I've had a few complaints from people who's threads now make them look like scammers even though they're not or run legitimate business threads just because they have some bad feedback and that's why nothing is perfect and someone will always complain or be unfairly penalised by any changes.


Lots of people have or have tried to game the system by just being active in certain capacities without actually having done many trades themselves. Though with that being said, people can also just keep doing pointless trades to build feedback quite quickly. A lot of the people who took little loans out here were probably doing this. Not always for bad reasons but there have been a lots of cases where I'm positive people were just doing this to essentially 'buy' feedback and make themselves appear more trusted than they actually were. That's why people need to examine what people have actually got the feedback for. Someone with lots of varied trades over years should mean something as opposed to just blindly trusting someone just because they have a lot of green feedback just for being helpful or doing some small deals with the right people. You could probably build a nice bit of 'trusted' feedback very quickly just by giving vouch copies of something or just taking out microloans with everybody who offers them.

Man City were always a mediocre side before the money. Basically any billionaire can buy a team and transform them into one of the world's best if they throw enough money at it within the laws of the game (though it's harder to do these days with fair play laws and such). There's no real glory in winning anything really. It's why I don't really support a team anymore and just see it as entertainment. I''d love to see some sort of league where teams only played players from their local area like Athletic Bilbao. The Premier League might be one of the best in the world but just look at how shit the English National team is. It would be nothing without the big money attracting players here.


If they lose this game they probably will be there even if it's only brief. Can you image if they were really struggling to get out of it all season? It's not much crazier than thinking Leicester would ever win the league to be honest.   


Had two great weeks but I seem to go between great results and next to nothing. Still being first at this point means little especially when it's so close at the top. Anyone could still win it really as long as they're consistent. I was mid table until the last few rounds so players don't be discouraged if you're not in the top ten right now. Slow and steady wins the race.

You're never going to make everyone happy and I think convoluting it any more just does more harm than good. With the last change it mostly alleviated the issue of all those people who had been left negative for petty spats and in retaliation for something but now there's also a whole load of scammers and shady characters that are let free. It's disturbing to see the majority that have woken up recently and are now shitposting away on the new Yobit campaign because they can. No feedback/trust system is perfect and I doubt theymos will be able to come up with one that is going to be universally loved.

No Premier League games until the 19th but the last two games of the next round should be interesting:  Manchester United - Liverpool &  Crystal Palace - Manchester City. Given current form I think Liverpool should beat United but I don't think United's bad form is going to last forever (though I hope it does). If they lose this game they could actually end up in the relegation zone  . Also, if Palace wins they'll actually overtake Man City in the league. Crazy to think. Palace have already beat Manchester United away this season so maybe they can get something out of this game too. I don't know if I'd back them at the win or draw but it'll be a game to watch. I'd really love if both Manchester teams could fall further down the table and Liverpool break further away.

I was going to say beforehand what is sojourner playing at backing the Wolves win away, but now I think he might have had an inside tip  . Surely Liverpool won't throw this away now. I hope they don't take their foot off the gas because of the buffer.


Well I started off great but not got much from everything else. The United game is going to be interesting. The picks are split. Most have gone for the away United win, and they should win, but I don't have that much faith in them and have gone for the draw as have 9 others. Majority have gone for the 1-1 but two others have gone for 0-0 and 2-2. If it isn't the draw then I'd probably go with 0-1 but wouldn't be shocked by a Newcastle win at all.