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1781  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Noirbits No premine or instamine. Block explorer added on: July 02, 2013, 11:29:11 AM
coinmine down?
1782  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Noirbits No premine or instamine. Block explorer added on: July 02, 2013, 08:07:14 AM
It also looks that there is an issue with the way that the network hash is being calculated. We will need to look into that as it is not representing the true network hash rate over few enough blocks. It is showing that our pools have over 100% of the network when they clearly don't, and it also is dropping the difficulty even when the true hashrate is higher.

Understood, i will look into it and we should be good to go in a bit.

Line 323 of bitcoinrpc.cpp :

Code:
if (lookup <= 0)
        lookup = pindexBest->nHeight % 2016 + 1;

The 2016 is leftover from litecoind Wink So basically hashrate is calculated over the last 2016 blocks which spans way too many diff retargets in Noirbits...

If you want, I can push a fix tonight when I get home from work.

ok, lets work together on it then. By the way, whoever sent me the 300 Noir, thank you very much. I am currently beta testing a bot that trades on cryptsy and btce at the same time so any old coins you have lying around would be appreciated. Currently it's making an average 3% profit daily.
1783  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Noirbits No premine or instamine. Block explorer added on: July 02, 2013, 04:49:35 AM
It also looks that there is an issue with the way that the network hash is being calculated. We will need to look into that as it is not representing the true network hash rate over few enough blocks. It is showing that our pools have over 100% of the network when they clearly don't, and it also is dropping the difficulty even when the true hashrate is higher.

Understood, i will look into it and we should be good to go in a bit.
1784  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] {}NanoToken: chugging along nicely. need linux compilers on: July 01, 2013, 06:44:55 PM
what is the reward for a linux fix?
1785  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] {}NanoToken: use the download links provided in post 1. release is now! go on: July 01, 2013, 06:43:02 PM
i think i'll just sit this one out
1786  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Antimatter Official Development and Release on: July 01, 2013, 06:28:25 PM
It will only be a success if I can explain it to my mother.

Too complicated, I think.
You guys?

the release will be simple, this is a technical thread.
1787  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] {}NanoToken: use the download links provided in post 1. release is now! go on: July 01, 2013, 06:26:57 PM

ubuntu
1788  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] {}NanoToken: use the download links provided in post 1. release is now! go on: July 01, 2013, 06:26:12 PM
source is not compiling
1789  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Antimatter Official Development and Release on: July 01, 2013, 06:13:54 PM
ok, can we also take into consideration the amounts of coin the others have? For instance infinitecoin and zwcoin have absurd block rewards. I do not believe ANT should have a extremely large number of coin, i know devcoin does it, but it just seems messy.

yes this needs to be done indeed.  - so wait , is infinite-coin literally never ending  with huge block rewards ?

this would be cause to throw to a "viable currency vote"

if the forum believes its not viable then it is excluded -

however then with the other currencies  the total cap would need to be looked at , hmm need to think on this . ..

ok so the Ant is there and at the start he has say 34 Legs - 34 Devs admit that = "no chance to exchange" so in each leg of the Ant goes each currency valued at exactly the same value.

this value adds up and creates a ratio downward the more that goes in ? so maybe the same principal :

i will take two examples :

Currency A has a very large block reward
Currency B has a very low block reward - the Gem and Bitbar type

both are submitted to the Ant leg

Leg 1 - large block reward is valued at 1 (in the first batch) with the first unit being valued at that in the ant body as more come in it divides the unit down
Leg 2 - small block reward comes in at 1 (in the first batch) with the next coming in much more slowly but dividing down as they do

Sum all legs to get final Ant value?

then rinse and repeat - the next batch will have legs of lesser value that get divided in the same way, yes? does this work ?


but as Ant is trade-able  there will be the Ant number and the Ant Value - that's what makes it fun .

but in this way you could still make it a low number with its own Ant cap right  ?

let me think on this.
1790  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Antimatter Official Development and Release on: July 01, 2013, 06:12:15 PM
yes it is a unifying currency.
1791  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to clone litecoin? on: July 01, 2013, 04:59:38 PM
5 BTC says i make your clone and teach you how to launch it.
20 BTC for a full do it yourself guide.
1792  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Antimatter Official Development and Release on: July 01, 2013, 04:58:17 PM
ok, can we also take into consideration the amounts of coin the others have? For instance infinitecoin and zwcoin have absurd block rewards. I do not believe ANT should have a extremely large number of coin, i know devcoin does it, but it just seems messy.
1793  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Antimatter Official Development and Release on: July 01, 2013, 04:24:24 PM
Ha HA what about a reverse pyramid?

Ok so the first batch of "Coins" can be valued as a group - based on the information in the market today we have to say "some are spam some might not be"

so we exist in this reality so those coins are valued at a = to "No chance to exchange" of say oh lets call it 1 to simplify.

then you have cause an inherit motive in the information market to create a "coin" and submit it to Ant.

so any subsequent batch  has to be valued at lower than this , and the equation is simple reverse pyramid -

First batch
1111111111111111111111111111111  < this is the number in the first batch they all get valued at the same = "no chance to exchange value"

i'm just putting more than one "1" to express the number of currencies int he first batch


Second batch
0.03125

this number is derived by the amount of "coins" that are submitted < i.e there are 32 new pieces of crap released < the devs admit it divide 1 / 32 = 0.03125.
all the second batch of currencies are now valued at 0.03125

Third batch
0.0020833333333333

15 more spam currencies that failed to get to an exchange , Dev(s) admits it -  

0.03125 / 15 = 0.0020833333333333

Fourth Batch  - The spam continues -
0.0010415


2 more spam come and greet our shores -
0.0020833333333333/ 2 = 0.0010415

so on so fourth - ?

wow, what a great valuation idea, this is becoming a reality faster and faster.
1794  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Antimatter Official Development and Release on: July 01, 2013, 03:40:11 PM
Or - ok wait for this:


Grab ALL the spam literally as much as you can find

put them in a vote and then request / ask Devs to remove them or send a request for them to be removed.

why?

because you are going to value them all at the same very low price -

if the Dev believes his value to be higher and its going to exchange he will request it to be removed , however if there is no chance that its going to exchange there is no motive to do this.

thus it gets added to the Ant at a = No chance to exchange price value. whatever that may be and could be voted on.

then if the Devs that removed coins find out they are holding something that has no chance to exchange , then they can submit it to Ant.

exceptions to this should be a "viable currency clause" :

for example Kopimikoin is not a "viable currency" as Hazard wrote himself 900k of them, so the market agrees its "not viable" these are the votes that could be taken.

this way the vote motive equation polarity is shifted from the positive to the negative and it will balance.

sounds reasonable. but you do know half of them have the same dev right?
1795  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Antimatter Official Development and Release on: July 01, 2013, 03:34:10 PM
If you can lock them into things like multisig escrows and merge them into Open Transactions, you will have viable derivatives.

You mean using an escrow service to distribute the coins? wow, thanks. I'll look around for a trustworthy guy, any suggestions?

the part i don't get is the merging into Open transactions.
he's basically talking about Nashx - and Nash equilibrium , but he probably/maybe doesn't realize it .

merge into open transaction i'd say just means - "automate the process and make it seamless"

I brought it up in Netcoin - but the Nashx guy done it first - , but i don't think it needs to be done ?

if Ant goes to Cryptsy Ant is being exchanged so the value of the derivative is being exchanged .

he is talking about a P2P exchange .

Ah i get it!!! Yes that would be perfectly suited for this. But which people to trust with that? my servers are down and i do not own escrow software, perhaps i'll speak with the phenix guys and koolio.
1796  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WTS] 600 KGC on: July 01, 2013, 03:08:01 PM
LTC has risen in value, people are less speculative and less willing to part with tradable coins for non traded ones. perhaps trading using another coin eg FTC or DGC or WDC may have better results.
1797  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Antimatter Official Development and Release on: July 01, 2013, 03:03:27 PM
If you can lock them into things like multisig escrows and merge them into Open Transactions, you will have viable derivatives.

You mean using an escrow service to distribute the coins? wow, thanks. I'll look around for a trustworthy guy, any suggestions?

the part i don't get is the merging into Open transactions.
1798  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Antimatter Official Development and Release on: July 01, 2013, 02:52:36 PM
So it's like a whole BASKET of shitcoins Smiley
I'm in for sure, got a plethora of muppet coins taking up space on my hard drive.

its like taking dung and making usable fuels.
1799  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Antimatter Official Development and Release on: July 01, 2013, 02:50:48 PM
I don't really understand. How do you know exactly was is the price for altcoin1 ... altcoin2 ... altcoinxx ?

we consider 1) Volume mined 2) level of premining 3) distribution 4) how much interest was shown 5) if the chain was forked or any other deal breakers

who decides ?

i didn't even think of that , i think i just asked the deal breaking question -

there will be a one off poll 24 hours before launch where people will vote the coins in. That way the community part  is satisfied in a free manner.
1800  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Antimatter Official Development and Release on: July 01, 2013, 02:32:33 PM
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s0A_6f9n78E7W1_yt96C4qJJRdRjLCa0ppT9sH4hs7c/edit?usp=sharing

doc for ideas and queries
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