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17801  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin on: April 14, 2015, 10:52:30 AM
I want to see this in some of their other games.... {StarCraft}  Grin

They should have a betting system built in with escrow, where spectators bet on the outcome of matches in tournaments. {Sport betting}

I watch these tournaments and would also like to Tip the players {in game} if it was a GG. It's a spectator sport, and we should be able to bet on the outcome of these games. {Pro levels}

Blizzard could take a percentage of the bets, for the escrow service being rendered. {They like to make money on everything}

So on top of the prize money, people can bet on these games and the incentive for the Pro players will be to play better to get more tips.  Grin

To add to your perceptive post, if Blizzard or eSports events could somehow award prize money in BTC, that'd be good for all parties involved.

We're already seeing BTC tipping thanks to Changetip and Twitch for gamers livestreaming:

http://www.coindesk.com/changetip-integrates-with-game-streaming-service-twitch-tv/

Also, Xapo and CEVO with their partnership:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/19958/xapo-partners-online-gaming-company-cevo-holds-21000-giveaway/

Looks promising on the gaming/Bitcoin front, hopefully Blizzard follows suit soon.



there was already some events with bitcoin prize as reward, they were showmatch between famous players(i'm talking about starcraft 2), like naniway vs scarlett(14 btc)

i don't know about other game
17802  Economy / Speculation / Re: The BTC Road to Double Digits Thread on: April 14, 2015, 09:53:24 AM
in the worst case it will return to 60-90 dollars, the previous price that started the 1200 peak(maybe willy bot is waiting that to start his manipulation again), who are hoping for trollish numbers like $1-2 is just a delusional falllllling fanboy

Nah...  The Willybot was more than a simple pump and dump.  I don't think it's coming back.

Read the theories about it here...  https://willyreport.wordpress.com

that's interesting, i didn't know the full story behind it, this is also a confirmation that the 1200 peak was not reached only by the bot, because 10.-20 every 5-10 min, for just one month, result in "only" 150k btc, they are not enough to rise the price at 1200

i was mistaken they are 270k btc apparently
17803  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: how much can you make weekly? on: April 14, 2015, 09:44:25 AM
I've never heard anyone claim clicking on faucets for dust is satisfying. I think most people seem to be dissatisfied with the piddly amount they earn from them hence why they always ask on here for alternatives. I think newbs just get excited by the prospect of free coins no matter how small but they soon realize they're wasting their time.
You have not? I've seen this in the past. Are you a newer member here?
Faucets were a 'thing' in the past. They still persist but are quite useless. Hoping for something that is highly unlikely to happen is also illogical (0.001 BTC to be worth 300$).
People need to stop wasting their time. Life is limited, or so they say.

there was one guy claiming that is was doing 0.07 a day with faucets, using an advanced bot to resolve captcha, or probably paying a service like 2captcha to resolve those

i can't find the thread, but it wasn't talking bullshit, he explained very well how he was doing it, then it say that now it can't be done anymore
17804  Local / Mining (Italiano) / Re: mining bitcoin con 7TH/s on: April 14, 2015, 09:41:42 AM
7 Th/s per 3500$ è troppo io ho 4 Th/s pagati una media di 0,8 - 0,7 BTC per 1 Th/s ( che è comunque altino come prezzo) circa 736$ ( prezzo odierno)

ti sei dimenticato della fee per la manutenzione, cex.io(li hai comrpati per forza li) ti fa pagare la bellezza di 100 dollari al mese, cioe 0.5 btc per ogni tera, quindi nel tuo caso 2 btc al mese, non farai mai roi cosi

meglio bit-x dove puoi rivendere il contratto
17805  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Fisco / Tasse / Legge sul Bitcoin on: April 14, 2015, 09:36:31 AM
Il punto è che ognuno le ha pagate a modo suo. lol
o non le ha pagate.
Il punto è questo:
il BTC è qualcosa di troppo avanzato per i normali sistemi di tassazione: può essere configurato sotto diversi punti di vista e alcuni sono ancora in divenire.
Al momento tassare (o farsi tassare) i guadagni (o le perdite) relativi lo ritengo un non senso.
A meno che non si sia dei professionisti e in quel caso non si può farne a meno.
Ma da privati non vedo perchè regalare dei soldi agli stati.

@hostfat

come mai questo thread non è più in rilievo?

se da privato vendi tutto in contanti hai ragione, ma se ogni mese hai centinaia/migliaia di euro di ricariche su prepagate il senso poi lo devi spiegare quando ti arriva l'accertamento dell'agenzie delle entrate

se arrivano dall'estero e sei sotto una certa soglia(mi pare fosse 10k annui) non dovrebbero esserci problemi
17806  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buying and holding BTC without mining.. on: April 14, 2015, 09:33:30 AM
if you are really worried about your bills, then those guys can try cloud mining, there is no bills there, and roi is the same, since those company use the best miner available, it is also less stressful then setup your own miners(no maintanance no noise or ewverything)

But instead of wasting months waiting for your ROI, I would rather go for just buy and hold same as the OP (or else, gamble a bit) Wink
ROI shouldnt be important in long term... just bet money that you can afford to lose. It's all about big gains long term.
And that is not certain in grand scheme of bitcoin scheme. For what we know bitcoin could be replaced with other better cryptocurrency tomorrow (and even if that is unlikely to happen many people believe that it won't be around for 100+ years due to rapid technological progress of hardware). If you only believe that in 20 years you will be millionaire with just couple of bitcoins you are probably wrong.

i don't see this happening, if the bitcoin tech and protocol, or anything related to it, will be also "upgraded" to keep with the progress of the technology in general

bitcoin is still in beta, plenty of stuff can be made for it, it the dev team will continue to work hard for bitcoin, than no other coin can replace it, at best there will be other alternative coin, like in fiat you have dollars and euro as the two big
17807  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Better than bitcoin" altcoin sellers arrested for stealing $340 million on: April 14, 2015, 09:15:16 AM
Makes me wonder how many other scams/ponzis are still running out there and how much money they have. Your thoughts?

it worth nothing that in 2013 after the doge peak the altcoin section was full of malicious devs, who were running their scam-fest, consisting of many alts, like aurora/blackcoin /maxcoin/stockcoin(the first one) ecc....,

i was there for every one, and i can tells you that with the first three they have surpassed by a long shot the 340M of this news..

actually i think that with aurora only, they have scammed a monstrous amount(i remember that coin surpassed litecoin in value, when litecoin was worth about 300M+)

nowadays there are still scam pos coins with bad/fake distribution and other crap like that

Whoah, slow down. There is a lot of scam activity including devs, but how do you justify calling the first three you mention scams? (I'm not familiar with the fourth). It's possible I've missed some important news, but I do try to pay attention so I'm surprised if I missed anything major.

1. Auroracoin was an ambitious effort by pretty much one lone dev, which failed for lack of support/infrastructure/software development that would realistically have been needed for it to be a success in its intention of providing Iceland a cryptocurrency. But despite a lot of hollering about it being a scam, I never saw a whiff of evidence to justify the accusations and it looks like the airdrop took place as intended. (It's all the hasty country-coins that followed it that would be more worthy of such scrutiny.)

2. Blackcoin - ambitious marketing and plans, and in-fighting among the devs, and I've seen accusations of whales attempting to manipulate it. But none of that justifies calling the coin itself a scam or calling the devs scammers.

3. Maxcoin - isn't this the Max Keiser coin? So how does that make it a scam? I've paid less attention to it, but again, how do you justify calling it a scam?

Only Auroracoin topped $100 million in market cap IIRC (with it hitting $1 Billion), so how can you claim each of these coins was somehow involved in >$340 million scams? Granted there is a lot of trouble in the alts, but let's not be wildly inaccurate in describing the issues.

auroracoin was being heavy manipulated with the funds they rised for the promising id for they citizens

blackcoin, dead after a high pump

maxcoin was  launched in atrocious way, lead to instamine it like no tomorrow

i know people that had at least 1000-5k aurora coin, and each reached 0.16 btc, now do the math, you end up with 500k for every one of those guys(you just need 70-100 of those guy to surpass 340M), not to mention that the funds(50% premined of 21M) was dumped at the end or at least a good portion of it, the funds alone was worth  about 2M bitcoin(yeah 2M bitcoin you read it right)

blackcoin again was heavily instamined(that era was an instamine fest i remember it clearly)


just take a look at their main thread, plenty of people reporting those as a scam(maybe blackcoin a bit less than the others)

17808  Economy / Economics / Re: Can a coin that is primarily a store-of-value succeed? on: April 14, 2015, 09:06:22 AM
Also, it s a coin with a very limited and scarce supply as a real diamond should be.

Just FYI, diamonds are common.

Really? How many diamonds do you have? As opposed to some other carbon stone? I can find coal in my back yard, diamonds, a bit harder?

then what about other pos coins that have less coin supply(like 1 coin and many others crap with 100k total supply(firecoin, lemurcoin ecc... )? they should be better than diamond or bitcoin right? well i don't think so
17809  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Frustrating things on bitcoin exchanges on: April 14, 2015, 08:31:36 AM
i don't have any real frustration, because kraken is very very good, everything work smooth and flawless, perhaps one thing could be the requirement of id for higher amount and maybe the fact that they require 6 confirmation, to add your deposit..a bit too much
17810  Economy / Speculation / Re: The BTC Road to Double Digits Thread on: April 14, 2015, 08:26:52 AM
in the worst case it will return to 60-90 dollars, the previous price that started the 1200 peak(maybe willy bot is waiting that to start his manipulation again), who are hoping for trollish numbers like $1-2 is just a delusional falllllling fanboy
17811  Economy / Speculation / Re: Support did not hold... But don't panic. on: April 14, 2015, 08:24:33 AM
bitcoin tanking is good, it will increase the adoption, seeing how newbies are not willing to buy at current price, it's better to fall to sub 200, at least they will feel more comfortable to get in

but i don't care too much, i'm hodling forever
17812  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Newest Diff thread April 5 to April 18th on: April 14, 2015, 08:20:11 AM
Well nicehash pay has went down quite a bit.  It appears people are returning to mining btc.  Below is current bitwisdom:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    49,446,390,688
Estimated Next Difficulty:    48,637,535,481 (-1.64%)
Adjust time:    After 781 Blocks, About 5.5 days

yep quite a bit jumped back .

I did not see this happening so soon but going back down a little:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    49,446,390,688
Estimated Next Difficulty:    48,482,949,723 (-1.95%)
Adjust time:    After 758 Blocks, About 5.4 days

it seems that miners know well how to predict the price, when they see a down trend

and for thath reason sometime i think that the price is following the hash, normally it should be the contrary....

17813  Economy / Speculation / Re: They say it can't be the miners on: April 14, 2015, 08:17:35 AM
To be fair, many miners ops have been burnt by the slowdown, depending on the time at which they invested etc

Via Tuur Demeester on twitter, this mining company sold $8m worth of bitcoin in Q1

http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20150410/pdf/42xtjqm13dqkt2.pdf
Many mining farms have halted or completely stopped the mining since the price is low. Although many farm still mine bitcoin  and take a loss which will probably lead to a mass dumping once the price rises again.

The hash rate keeps going up, though.

that's big china farm, with cheap erlectricity, they can afford more mining hardware, and make roi on those faster than others, thank to their big hash and their big earning every day

besides this, the hasrate is a bit fluctuating right now(-1.95% coming in 5 days, so it's not rising at all)
17814  Economy / Speculation / Re: Who sold at 450$ ? on: April 14, 2015, 08:09:47 AM
i sold too at 450(was around 415 euro actually), but for buying a gpu mining rig to instamine altcoin, it was fun until it lasted, then i sold the gpu rig and i made about x2 roi, so i'm satisfied with my profit
17815  Economy / Speculation / Re: Expectations built into the price on: April 14, 2015, 08:05:26 AM
nothing to worry about, at worst case it will fall at 160-180, value that has already been seen, and i didn't "panic selling" there, why i should now?
17816  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: New to Bitcoin and want to play with some... on: April 14, 2015, 08:03:17 AM
in fact game and bitcoin can be seen as a good combination, but we know that everyone want always the easy route, that's why they prefer the worthless faucets

until now game(talking about skill game not dice gambling game) are equally worthless for gaining bitcoin

but for now aside of the bird game and those "hyper game"(game that pay you with hypercoin, an altcoin, it can be converted in btc) i don't know any others

we can play at counterstrike go if you want, you can earn 11k satoshi every 20 kills
17817  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to sell Bitcoins on: April 14, 2015, 07:57:45 AM
you can try coinimal, they seems good, they don't held your money, everything is processed directly between your wallet and your debit/credit card

this mean that even if the exchange get hacked your coins are safe(at least going by logic, i didn't get enough info about hwo it work exactly)

https://www.coinimal.com/
17818  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to make money on bitcointalk? on: April 14, 2015, 07:55:03 AM
I don't have rank im newbie...

yeah newbie is a rank too, the first one it allow you to join sig campaign with low requirement

you can start from there to make money(better say to make bitcoin)
17819  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Greetings from South-Africa on: April 14, 2015, 07:52:28 AM
welcome, and if you are a important guy there, please spread your interest about bitcoin with other, adoption is what bitcoin really need to grow

btw something i want to ask, there are mining facility there in africa? or the electricity cost is too prohibitive?
17820  Economy / Speculation / Re: And here we go in the red zone again. BTC under $220 .WTF s going on? on: April 14, 2015, 07:48:42 AM

and btw sub 200 isn't something new, we were at 150-180 for before

But that was back when difficulty level was lower. Maybe time to switch to POS.

as far as i know it happened 1 month ago, not that old, and difficult wasn't that different from now, it has been stuck(range -10% +10%) there like the price

They can either sell at a loss or hold until everyone else stops selling at a loss.

they aren't selling at loss, many miners(especially big farms) have probably roi'ed(i would say many months ago...), they are free to dump any bag
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