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181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New cryptocurrency vDinar needs miners to start on: August 18, 2017, 01:08:28 AM
I have spent some time in your part of the world and I think I understand the problem that you're trying to find a solution for and the mindset of the people that live there.  I'll take a look at it and try some test mining to see how it goes. Smiley

Nice to hear it from someone who has been here! I hope we'll improve this thing until our first official release!  Smiley
182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] vDinar new cryptocurrency from Balkans on: August 18, 2017, 01:04:30 AM
i will mine this. can release a miner also for this? ccminer especially. haha. will be waiting for this coin to enter the world of the cryptocurrency. do the best DEV.

Oh, that's our main need now! We are doing it on cpuminer but will do it on every main mining software! Also, if you appear to have the ScryptN mining algorithm built-in, you could already mine our new vCrypt algorithm. What changes from ScryptN to vCrypt is the way the N variable automatically increases, but as the current miners require you to write N by hand (it is a power of 2 starting from 2^10: 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192...) you wouldn't notice the difference. They probably did it so not to change ScryptN for every new coin implementing it, but that's the point with vDinar's vCrypt: it is based on the last block height and can therefore let the N increase be automatic and read it from the last block header!
Thank you for following us!

i hope the release of this coin can be success. may be, you must develop a team which have skills and many experiences.. good luck for 1st february 2018

Well we will do our best! I have been following cryptocurrencies for years, and that's an idea coming from 2012. At the time I was planning it as "e-Dinar" but noticed a couple of years ago that there was already such a currency (probably not at the time I planned about it). Well now it's vDinar and it's real! There's much effort in the work beside this project (not talking about this vCrypt edit but about much other utilities coming soon).


P.S. for all: everything will be updated on GitHub in the next days, from vDinar to every edited software we can publish for vDinar and vCrypt!


I think the days of "local" currencies has passed few years ago. You need stronger idea IMO.

Remember, we're not doing this in a country where cryptocurrencies are popular!
We're introducing them, we just chose to do it with our own currency! Of course there are some little communities from southern sčavic area, yet not such a deal. We'll se how to get it through somehow!
183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New cryptocurrency vDinar needs miners to start on: August 18, 2017, 12:49:12 AM
Algorithm updated (more info in the original thread linked at the top of the page).
Not using Scrypt anymore: we implemented our own edit (vCrypt) following the ScryptN path and therefore making the hash function too unstable for a parallel program to build an ASIC on, or to improve GPU mining. CPU mining will therefore be the profitable way of mining this coin.
Differently from ScryptN, vCrypt is based on the blocks height to determine the N exponential factor instead of hardcoded timestamps, therefore avoiding miscalculations.
Specific parameters regarding difficulty changes will be edited in order not to increase exponentially the required power. The N variable will yet assure that no GPU implementations will be profitable, or at least not enough to beat CPUs.

GitHub updates will be published in the coming days to upload the vCrypt edit. We will add a couple of help functions in order to get the N value when asking for mining info.

The built-in miner has proven to work very well and without providing any error, CPUminer also can be used with the already existing ScryptN algorithm (because CPUminer requires you to write the N value by hand everytime it changes) but we have been already looking to make an automatic vCrypt edit for that, reading the last stored block header.

Web utilities are also being created or improved, like web wallets stored on our main peer, exchange networks and statistics (we're now also checking the pool setup for our new algorithm change).
184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] vDinar new cryptocurrency from Balkans on: August 18, 2017, 12:34:55 AM
---ALGORITHM UPDATED---

Now we are not using Scrypt anymore but vCrypt, an own edited implementation of the ScryptN idea. GitHub updates will be published in the coming days!

READ THE DESCRIPTION FOR INFO!
185  Local / Announcements (Hrvatski) / Re: vDinar: nova srpskohrvatska kriptovaluta on: August 18, 2017, 12:13:53 AM
Novost!
Napravili smo naš posebni algoritam od Scrypta, nazivali smo ga vCrypt.
Baš kao i u ScryptN mijenja se varijabila N iz hash funkcije, no različito od ScryptN, gdje se N mijenja nakon preciznih timestamp-a, mi smo ovo implementirali koristeći broj blokova kao osnova ove promjene.
Od ovog trenutka GPU, dakle i ASIC, ne mogu dostići iste rezultate kao CPU jer ne može biti "paralelnog programiranja" za njih zbog nestabilnosti funkcije. Od Februara ćemo uživati CPU kriptosocijalizam! Tongue

P.S.: brzo ćemo objaviti na GitHub, samo da malo uljepšamo rezultat dodavanjem nekih help-opcija za saznanje varijabile N itd, koja učestvuje u težinu kopanja. Također testiramo prve uređene funkcije kopanja koje tek implementiramo u već postojećim majnerima, kao CPUminer. Zapravo, može se već kopati (osim built-in majnera koji je u Linux novčanici) korištenjem ScryptN majning funkcije, gdje se ručno svaki put ubaci varijabila N (rijetko se mijenja, slično težini). Važno je da sve radi, kao što smo i vidjeli: do Februara imamo slobodnog vremena da napravimo online novčanice (čuvane na našem serveru), da poboljšamo setup našeg pool-a i mnogo više!
186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] vDinar new cryptocurrency from Balkans on: August 16, 2017, 04:54:52 PM
Good luck to the developers. Balkan dinars are an interesting name. The history of the Balkans has been going on for a long time. World War I also began in the Balkans.

There's much to discover about Balkans!  Smiley
187  Local / Announcements (Hrvatski) / Re: vDinar: nova srpskohrvatska kriptovaluta on: August 16, 2017, 04:50:52 PM
Brate slabo ces ti kod nasih ljudi dostici neke cene. Sve ti tu nesto kuka kad su pare u pitanju. Ja ako se uhodam do tada sa lopatanjem ima da ga kopam ko mutav. Kad slabo ima pravih dinara bar da bude ovih laznih Smiley

Pa dobro, nije to problem! Ne očekujem da se od prvog dana fizičkim parama kupuju, važno je da mi kopamo pa će se cijena povećati polako!
188  Local / Announcements (Hrvatski) / Re: vDinar: nova srpskohrvatska kriptovaluta on: August 15, 2017, 09:17:10 PM
Zanimljiv mi je coin kao takav, mislim da bi bilo najbolje kada bi se mogao direktno zamjeniti u bitcoin, a da se lako  kupuje u kunama ili dinarima ili eurima.

Mislili smo baš sami napraviti trgovinu vDinara na našoj stranici, svako da odluči za koju bi cijenu prodavao dok ostali gledaju koja im je ponuda najbolja. I od svih uspješnih prodaja napraviti prosjek i sami saznati koliko ljudi cijene vDinare, da ne ovisimo od vanjskih ekonomista i stranica. Zato i jesmo odlučili da se tek u Februaru objavi projekt!
189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] vDinar new cryptocurrency from Balkans on: August 15, 2017, 05:57:17 PM
New vDinar addresses now start with "v" for public keys. If anyone was mining with the test release remember to update from GitHub.
190  Local / Announcements (Hrvatski) / Re: vDinar: nova srpskohrvatska kriptovaluta on: August 15, 2017, 02:10:44 PM
Meni je ova ideja skroz super ,prosto ime YUGOSLAV CURRENCY
https://vdinar.jugoslaven.com, skroz originalno ..Ako treba neka pomoc oko promocija ili sta vec slobodno me kontaktirajte.
Nadam se da cete uspeti u ovom projektu.Praticu vase postove za vise informacija.

Hvala, lijepo nam je ovo čuti! Naravno čim objavimo službeni release uradit ćemo šta god moguće da promoviramo projekt!

jooj..........mjenjajte ime sto prije lol
pa kome pade napamet jugoslavenska valuta.
pa to je totalno out.
ljudi se jeze od pomisli na jugoslaviju.
ili neka bude srpski dinar ili hrvatski ali jugoslavenski je promasaj.

Pusti sada politiku sa strane, "yugoslav" je u smislu južnih Slovena, "srpskohrvatska valuta", makar bili komunisti, kapitalisti ili ne pratili politiku mislim da nema rasprave o tome da svi pripadamo toj kategoriji, ili je barem ta najbliža nama. Možeš slobodno provjeriti da nigdje nismo stavili petokraku niti smo igdje spomenuli samoupravni socijalizam ili šta god slično. Nismo projektu zasigurno mogli dati ime "Bosnianserbiancroatianslovenianmontenegrinianmacedonian coin", niti bi imalo smisla da ta pripada samo jednom narodu od ovih u popisu, jer je cilj projekta da se ukloni što više ovaj ekonomski zid među nama i da se našima pruža mogućnost imati prevođeni portal za kriptovalute.
Ne zove se niti SFRJcoin, niti JNAcoin pa niti Karađorđevićcoin, već vDinar.
191  Local / Announcements (Hrvatski) / Re: vDinar: nova srpskohrvatska kriptovaluta on: August 15, 2017, 01:08:22 PM
A kako cu ja sa tim dinarima moci da kupim bitkoin koji mi je kazu cilj kod ovog biznisa?

Vremenom ce se kada startuje koin tj kada se pocne kopati pojavljivati na raznim berzama.
I onda kada cena bude isplativa tj dobra za prodaju moces da promenis vdinar za valutu koju zelis
tj u pocetku verovatno bas za bitcoin. Tako je bilo kod svakog koina i ne vidim ni jedan razlog
zasto ne bi bilo i kod ovog.

Tačno tako. I još ima mnogo toga do Februara što možemo dodati našem projektu, situacija može samo da se poboljša.

Ako bude neki normalan algo i za nas gpu minere potrudiću se da što više učestvujem u kopanju, ako ne preskačem.
Dobro bi bilo da bude neki algo koji malo struje troši i otporan je na asic tipa blake2s ili ko za monero što je...

Evo tek smo malo prije objavili prvu konkretnu promjenu, što se tiče kreiranja novih adresa. Sada ćemo pogledati baš implementaciju algoritma Blake ili Blake2.
192  Local / Announcements (Hrvatski) / Re: vDinar: nova srpskohrvatska kriptovaluta on: August 14, 2017, 09:53:45 PM
Gde i posto mogu da kupim minere za ovaj coin?

Moći ćeš je slobodno kopati običnom GPUom, mi se baš pobrinemo da bude što manje od koristi kopati sa ASIC, pa da bude što lakše našima da dobiju dinare.

Gde i posto mogu da kupim minere za ovaj coin?

Samo vec to pitanje - nakon cijele diskusije ovdje o koji algoritam ce da se koristi - bi vam trebalo znaciti da ne ulazete u to. Procitajte moju reakciju na vase pitanje ovdje...  Grin

No, ipak, ako hoćemo malo off-topic u pravu je sbogovac, i ja isto radim sa Bitcoinima. Što se vDinara tiče dovoljno je znati o njima i kopati svojim kompjuterom nekoliko sati čim projekt krene (1. Februar 2018) da bi se "investiralo" u tome.
193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] vDinar new cryptocurrency from Balkans on: August 14, 2017, 08:28:01 PM
Bajo moj there almost no asic miners in ex sfrj if only it was eth fork so we can mine ko ljudi,gl anyway

Hahahaha, kopat ćemo mi kao stari Sirotanović!
We are trying to edit the algorithm to let us use only CPUs and GPUs!
194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New cryptocurrency vDinar needs miners to start on: August 14, 2017, 06:04:30 PM
No one forces anyone to spend their time or mining power. It's just one of the many opportunities to mine coins with non-professional equipment, even your usual CPU. In the full article you could have read that we're not providing changes to the algorithm, we will just spend our budget trying to slowly implement it in SerboCroatian speaking areas, where Bitcoin and other altcoins are still far away from being popular. You can follow the project or not, it's not like we're stopping you from mining popular coins. We have still no direct interest in this and we are doing it because of simple political ideas.

I understand what you are trying to say, but let me rephrase. You just copy pasted coin, changed name, and expect someone to mine because of political reasons ? If Bitcoin (the most popular crypto currency) is far from being popular why would some shitcoin be popular ? (That is the term for coins like your's)

First of all, we are still applying changes, we never said the full release will be "Litecoin renamed", we're doing our own algorithm to be applied but we're also caring to provide all the mining softwares for it (there's a reason if we're launching it on 2018).
I just wanted to state that we're not doing from scratch hoping one day it will work and stop if it doesn't as we thought it would, therefore we have our basic layer to reatreat on and we build every new feature step by step.
Also, you seem not to know the way people from our countries react to foreign projects. There's a much bigger chance they will try something presented in their own language, and that's also the point: the way we will advertise it. We wouldn't be spending our budget in donations to Bitcoin, but we will knowing that this one will bring our name. Dinari have been the currency uniting all of ex-Yugoslavia for a century, people will feel it much nearer than Bitcoin or any of the international altcoins. If anything we will be the ones losing, not some unfortunate miner who spent a couple of days supporting the project. So I don't see all these reasons to get angry over it.

I'm not angry over anything, your project does not affect me in any way so I couldn't care less. I often invest in small projects to help them get going, so I'm trying to tell you from a point of investor. Even for people in that countries, the reason to use cryptocurrency is if they want to buy something online (if they just want to send money person to person it's much better to use bank if they are from the same country) and for that you need to get vendors to accept your currency first. That is problem even for Bitcoin.

Oh no that's exactly the point, we have 4 different currencies in 4 different countries speaking the same language (and not even counting 3 where they used to officially speak SerboCroatian till 20 years ago and still mostly do). Now, you may ask what does a language have to do with a new cryptocurrency but in this case it does: people sometimes need to cross 2 or 3 national borders to mantain their business and there's no profitability in changing your money everyday in Kune, Marke or serbian Dinars to keep your affairs going. There's nearly no business that could go on avoiding to buy/sell in his neighbouring balkan countries.
Of course one could just say "why not Bitcoins?" and that's not wrong, we just wanted to assure a fully SerboCroatian community, translated services or even usual utilities like pools. Starting a new coin gives some kick off to let average people mine the coin instead of just buying it from the first day. We'll try to use the news portals existing under our domain to spread this project and use our budget to sponsor them.
We're therefore trying to change from scrypt to something reproducing an algorithm like the one from Monero and increase the CPU/GPU profitability (ASICs would ruin the coin distribution of course, they're very rare in our area).
195  Local / Announcements (Hrvatski) / Re: vDinar: nova srpskohrvatska kriptovaluta on: August 14, 2017, 01:46:42 PM
A ko će kopati scrypt? Šaka velikih sa skupim teško dobavljivim asic minerima?
Mislim da je to veoma pogrešno pogotovu ako se zna da je region na koji se cilja u 99% gpu miningu.
A tih par velikih sa asic minerima sigurno neće doprineti omasovljenju i pravilnoj raspodeli coina, niti velikoj sigurnosti mreže sa malo učesnika...

ASIC mineri se skoro nikada ne upotrebljavaju sa novim valutama, ali počeli smo gledati i to da promijenimo algoritam. Ako se išta bude promijenilo javit ću.

E pa ja znam bar jednog koji ce sam da sa asicima nabije bar 99% hasha na novoj valuti, znaci nema sanse ovo da se kopa sa grafickima.
Vrlo dobro pratim coine i znam da ako se bude islo na scrypt algoritam nista od iole pravedne raspodele nece biti.
A da par ljudi drzi vecinu coina i upravlja sa sigurnosti mreze znaci da u ovaj coin bez obzira kolko mi primamljiv zvucao sigurno necu ulagati...

Zato smo i rekli da ćemo to što više promijeniti prije službenog releasea. Trenutačno gledamo koji bi nam algoritam najviše osigurao da se to ne događa.

A sto tako kasni pocetak tek u veljaci 2018 ?
Sta vam toliko vremena treba za start ?

Prije svega da se što više ljudi okupljaju do tada, ali većinom da napravimo sve potrebne promjene i softvere.
196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New cryptocurrency vDinar needs miners to start on: August 14, 2017, 01:37:47 PM
No one forces anyone to spend their time or mining power. It's just one of the many opportunities to mine coins with non-professional equipment, even your usual CPU. In the full article you could have read that we're not providing changes to the algorithm, we will just spend our budget trying to slowly implement it in SerboCroatian speaking areas, where Bitcoin and other altcoins are still far away from being popular. You can follow the project or not, it's not like we're stopping you from mining popular coins. We have still no direct interest in this and we are doing it because of simple political ideas.

I understand what you are trying to say, but let me rephrase. You just copy pasted coin, changed name, and expect someone to mine because of political reasons ? If Bitcoin (the most popular crypto currency) is far from being popular why would some shitcoin be popular ? (That is the term for coins like your's)

First of all, we are still applying changes, we never said the full release will be "Litecoin renamed", we're doing our own algorithm to be applied but we're also caring to provide all the mining softwares for it (there's a reason if we're launching it on 2018).
I just wanted to state that we're not doing from scratch hoping one day it will work and stop if it doesn't as we thought it would, therefore we have our basic layer to reatreat on and we build every new feature step by step.
Also, you seem not to know the way people from our countries react to foreign projects. There's a much bigger chance they will try something presented in their own language, and that's also the point: the way we will advertise it. We wouldn't be spending our budget in donations to Bitcoin, but we will knowing that this one will bring our name. Dinari have been the currency uniting all of ex-Yugoslavia for a century, people will feel it much nearer than Bitcoin or any of the international altcoins. If anything we will be the ones losing, not some unfortunate miner who spent a couple of days supporting the project. So I don't see all these reasons to get angry over it.
197  Local / Announcements (Hrvatski) / Re: vDinar: nova srpskohrvatska kriptovaluta on: August 14, 2017, 10:46:39 AM
A ko će kopati scrypt? Šaka velikih sa skupim teško dobavljivim asic minerima?
Mislim da je to veoma pogrešno pogotovu ako se zna da je region na koji se cilja u 99% gpu miningu.
A tih par velikih sa asic minerima sigurno neće doprineti omasovljenju i pravilnoj raspodeli coina, niti velikoj sigurnosti mreže sa malo učesnika...

ASIC mineri se skoro nikada ne upotrebljavaju sa novim valutama, ali počeli smo gledati i to da promijenimo algoritam. Ako se išta bude promijenilo javit ću.
198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] vDinar new cryptocurrency from Balkans on: August 14, 2017, 12:12:19 AM
vDinar: Litecoin fork for local use but international mining

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https://vdinar.jugoslaven.com

First of all: this fork has already been tested, but the genesis block will be generated again just before launching. This is to prevent doubts on premining. DO NOT mine with the GitHub release until launch (1st February 2018)!

vDinar does not bring any new algorythm improvements, yet it doesn't aim for an international use. vDinar is backed politically and financially to be slowly implemented in the local everyday internet life of SerboCroatian speaking countries, but won't start until it gets enough miners to secure the network. If you'd like to mine this coin, please leave some feedback. We need to understand how many people are following the project.


Why should I mine this coin if it's not aiming to be used in my country?
Of course, you will probably never buy something using vDinars in your country, but it doesn't affect the investment you are making. We are looking for international miners because we can't rely on the low number of miners in our area. There will therefore be much more local people trying to buy vDinars than to mine them.


If you feel like we're missing some informations, just ask!
Please tell me detail about this project.
Because i'm curious with it, thank you...

Of course!
We aim to bring cryptocurrencies in our area, where such currencies are still far away from being known, letting people use something built for their own needs. We are taking in consideration if to apply any changes to the algorithm itself, yet we're mainly changing the way we present it and the way we will advertise it.
As long as we'd prefer miners to be from our countries, we also let miners from the whole world join the project (release date 1st February 2018) to let our network be secure and to let them invest their CPUs and GPUs in our newly started coin. You will probably find most of the mining details in our threads but for any specific question we're here, just ask!
199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] vDinar new cryptocurrency from Balkans on: August 13, 2017, 10:32:49 PM
hi, can I get some mining information, algorithm? , dedicated wallet link , info gpu / cpu mining , blockchain explorer , miners link if new algo...cheers
CAN YOU COMPILE WALLET FOR WIN64 ? please , and I hope its not scrypt algo

Start date: 1st February 2018;
Algorithm: scrypt (like Litecoin);
Wallet link: still not available - you can track our releases on github.com/AndreaDejanGrande/vDinar ;
CPU mining will be profitable for a long time.

Yes we will compile wallets for Windows. If you want to build one yourself you can search for vdinar-qt when we will release the project (remember, 1st February 2018).

Why scrypt asic miner ?? Only low count of peoples can have asic, especialy from ex yu region. Someone want to make most coins for self? Not good if someone want to make spread vdinar in all region, and to lots of peoples...

Oh no don't worry, you will have no problems mining it at least on its start. Of course things will change with time but we will try our best to set new hardwares right in our area. We will still try to adapt it to our needs before we start it. Every advice is of course highly considered!
200  Local / Announcements (Hrvatski) / Re: vDinar: nova srpskohrvatska kriptovaluta on: August 13, 2017, 09:31:04 PM
Zašto ime vDinar ? Što bi bilo to v  Huh Smiley

Dakle što probamo smanjiti ekonomske granice uspostavljene korištenjem raznih valuta u našim zemljama (mi ipak probamo!) mislili smo da je najbolje dati ime projektu po jedinoj valuti koja nas je jednom ujedinila i samo dodati slovo v, tojest, virtualni!

Ima testnet? U kojem algoritmu ce biti coin, ne vidim nesto tehnicke informacije sem da ce tek sledece godine da krene ako sam dobro razumeo. Bilo bi dobro da se ovde malo vise pise o njemu da se ne mucimo sa pisanjem na engleskom jeziku. Tj bolje da se o njemu prica na vise mesta...

Baš se toga bavimo ovih dana. Zapravo, pisali smo i to da je ova valuta već napravljena i testirana, pa tako i jeste. Ali nikada nismo to objavili već samo provjerili da li je sve u najboljem redu. Nismo pokrenuli takozvani testnet već "službeni" network koji se sada nalazi na GitHubu i koji će biti zamijenjen kad budemo objavili službeni projekt sa novim genesis blokom. No trenutačno nismo od toga napravili Windows novčanicu, može se samo preko Linuxa probati.
Algoritam je scrypt kao i Litecoin, sačuvali smo skoro svaki detalj da ne bismo previše skrenuli sa poznatog mehanizma. Naravno ako imaš neka precizna pitanja samo reci!
Naravno probam što više pronaći eksperta, minera, iz bilo koje zemlje pa da tek onda budem potrošio svoj budžet reklamirajući vDinar našima. Najvažnije je da se prije svega osigura mreža.
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