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181  Other / Off-topic / Re: Suicide tourism? on: August 22, 2014, 02:47:18 PM
Reminds me of Soylent Green and Edward J. Robinson's famous line..."I'm going home." Really loved the musical overture they played after he drank the poison and all the beautiful clips of how abundant life used to be, not a bad way to go if one has already made up their mind.

And suicide is a very personal decision, it retains at least a measure of dignity, it should be legalized but with certain restrictions, certain age limits and of course, at a reasonable cost. All Catholics must sign a waiver.
182  Other / Politics & Society / Re: American journalist James Foley reportedly beheaded by ISIS on: August 22, 2014, 02:27:27 PM
Now, it may be that they're just too white to reveal actual emotion on TV, but those are not real emotions from real parents who just lost a son. Perhaps they knew what was going to happen, there is a story now that they received an email from their son.
They definitely aren't trying to question what has happened. They certainly said nothing to the effect of the speech the beheaded son made in regards to his Air Force brother. Not even to comfort his brother.

And who the hell was calling the dad's cell during the interview?! It was frantic and obviously the caller knew they were in the middle of an international interview.. and kept calling! The message appeared to be "we really need Jesus" from the change in focus from the parents.


Now. I present the parents of Michael Brown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43NAG0s5L_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xORC3Kfhw0Y

Do you see the difference? It's on their faces. Their messages differ as well, but these parents did lose a son and are still dealing with the reality of it all. Brown's parents seem authentic. Foley's parents seem like actors.
183  Other / Politics & Society / Re: American journalist James Foley reportedly beheaded by ISIS on: August 22, 2014, 02:06:14 PM
So here's a question I see no one has asked. Is this video actually for real?

We see a prisoner with a knife to his throat, then we see a body.

The parents were on the news, they didn't act like they had just seen their son beheaded.

Also, is it just me or are production values extremely good on terrorist videos these days? And that terrorist seems very well educated. Why did he also commit the beheading? Why not get someone else to do it?
GoPro cameras and a hands on approach.
So what, have one prisoner hold the camera while he watches the other get beheaded?

There must have been more than one terrorist there. Otherwise why would the two of them, the prisoner journalists, not just rush their captor? If he shoots them it has to be a better death than beheading via paring knife while filmed on GoPro.
Why not? Both prisoners were photo journalists. Obviously Foley lost the coin toss...
It seems that all it takes to be a terrorist in the area controlled by ISIS is a black headwrap and some swarthy speech. I bet Foley could have pulled that off.

He's bigger than his killer too, physically taller.


I want you to watch his family though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j03S0m8cTSo

Watch his mother.
184  Other / Politics & Society / Re: American journalist James Foley reportedly beheaded by ISIS on: August 22, 2014, 12:33:37 PM
So here's a question I see no one has asked. Is this video actually for real?

We see a prisoner with a knife to his throat, then we see a body.

The parents were on the news, they didn't act like they had just seen their son beheaded.

Also, is it just me or are production values extremely good on terrorist videos these days? And that terrorist seems very well educated. Why did he also commit the beheading? Why not get someone else to do it?
GoPro cameras and a hands on approach.
So what, have one prisoner hold the camera while he watches the other get beheaded?

There must have been more than one terrorist there. Otherwise why would the two of them, the prisoner journalists, not just rush their captor? If he shoots them it has to be a better death than beheading via paring knife while filmed on GoPro.
185  Other / Politics & Society / Re: American journalist James Foley reportedly beheaded by ISIS on: August 22, 2014, 11:54:02 AM
So here's a question I see no one has asked. Is this video actually for real?

We see a prisoner with a knife to his throat, then we see a body.

The parents were on the news, they didn't act like they had just seen their son beheaded.

Also, is it just me or are production values extremely good on terrorist videos these days? And that terrorist seems very well educated. Why did he also commit the beheading? Why not get someone else to do it?
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187  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] [Highest Paid Signature] Earn Bitcoins Simply By Posting on: August 21, 2014, 10:00:27 AM
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Also would like to see the list of members who are now enrolled so I can see what I did wrong.
188  Other / Politics & Society / Re: More ObamaCare Exemptions on: August 19, 2014, 04:17:05 PM
I wonder to what extent you and I would agree as to the positives and negatives of the PPACA. My dream ultimately is socialized medicine. In certain respects, PPACA advances toward that incrementally, but for the most part it goes in the opposite direction. Within the framework of our mixed economy, I'm not sure how much closer we could get to socialized medicine, particularly with (1) the firmly-established allowance for states to opt out of Medicaid expansion, and (2) so many ultraconservatives in leadership positions, making decisions based on their ideology rather than concern for the health of their constituents. (There are other roadblocks but that part really irks the shit out of me.)
189  Other / Politics & Society / Re: More ObamaCare Exemptions on: August 19, 2014, 04:13:20 PM
Isn't this possibly impacted by states who don't have medicaid/medicare expansions?
It's just Medicaid that has an effect, but it's a very small piece of the total.
#13 is awesome, no.accountability just someone that feels the cost is too much.
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Hardship exemptions

If you have any of the circumstances below that affect your ability to purchase health insurance coverage, you may qualify for a “hardship” exemption:

1. You were homeless.

2. You were evicted in the past 6 months or were facing eviction or foreclosure.

3. You received a shut-off notice from a utility company.

4. You recently experienced domestic violence.

5. You recently experienced the death of a close family member.

6. You experienced a fire, flood, or other natural or human-caused disaster that caused substantial damage to your property.

7. You filed for bankruptcy in the last 6 months.

8. You had medical expenses you couldn’t pay in the last 24 months which resulted in substantial debt.

9. You experienced unexpected increases in necessary expenses due to caring for an ill, disabled, or aging family member.

10. You expect to claim a child as a tax dependuh ent who’s been denied coverage in Medicaid and CHIP, and another person is required by court order to give medical support to the child. In this case, you do not have the pay the penalty for the child.

11. As a result of an eligibility appeals decision, you’re eligible for enrollment in a qualified health plan (QHP) through the Marketplace, lower costs on your monthly premiums, or cost-sharing reductions for a time period when you weren’t enrolled in a QHP through the Marketplace.

12. You were determined ineligible for Medicaid because your state didn’t expand eligibility for Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act.

13. Your individual insurance plan was cancelled and you believe other Marketplace plans are unaffordable.

14. You experienced another hardship in obtaining health insurance.
#3 is really good, too. You can get out of a federal tax penalty by not paying your utilities for a couple of months until they send you a shut-off notice. In almost every state, you get 10-30 days' notice to cure your nonpayment. So, take the notice and apply for the exemption; meanwhile, pay your past due balance.
To my understanding, people generally want to be insured. Risking the termination of utility services in order to avoid having to get insurance seems like the sort of tactically bad, lazy-at-all-costs thing that poor people do all the time in the minds of conservative dipshits, and incredibly rarely in real life. (See also the results of drug tests for welfare recipients.)
No they don't. People generally want to be healthy. Beyond that (when they're sick or busted) they want to be fixed. Once healthy again, they don't want to be indentured servants for the remainder of their days to pay the bills. But there is no risk. Once you get the late notice, it's the free-ride ticket, and then you pay the bill, and everything is fine with the utility again.
Nonsense. These are unsubstantiated right-wing talking points, empty rhetoric about "free-stuffers" - where is your evidence of this rampant abuse of the system? Never mind you evidently haven't looked into how the hardship waiver actually works. You realize that under the waiver you still have to buy a plan, it's just cheaper and it's temporary by design.
While the talking points are just that, I'm not sure why you bother to defend a law that in the aggregate is garbage. I'm not, of course, saying your points are wrong. I just don't see the value in defending a law that was bad when originally thought up in the 90s, and bad when it became law. But to each their own. I try to ignore it as much as possible.
I appreciate what you're saying. For the purpose of this thread, and the larger narrative, I don't consider myself to be a defender of the PPACA so much as a defender of the truth... which may sound trite, but when the larger political landscape is shaped by untruths, it's really pretty much impossible to have a rational conversation about the merits of the law, which of course colors the subject of whether and how to change it (or move on).
190  Other / Politics & Society / Re: More ObamaCare Exemptions on: August 19, 2014, 03:52:26 PM
Isn't this possibly impacted by states who don't have medicaid/medicare expansions?
It's just Medicaid that has an effect, but it's a very small piece of the total.
#13 is awesome, no.accountability just someone that feels the cost is too much.
Quote
Hardship exemptions

If you have any of the circumstances below that affect your ability to purchase health insurance coverage, you may qualify for a “hardship” exemption:

1. You were homeless.

2. You were evicted in the past 6 months or were facing eviction or foreclosure.

3. You received a shut-off notice from a utility company.

4. You recently experienced domestic violence.

5. You recently experienced the death of a close family member.

6. You experienced a fire, flood, or other natural or human-caused disaster that caused substantial damage to your property.

7. You filed for bankruptcy in the last 6 months.

8. You had medical expenses you couldn’t pay in the last 24 months which resulted in substantial debt.

9. You experienced unexpected increases in necessary expenses due to caring for an ill, disabled, or aging family member.

10. You expect to claim a child as a tax dependuh ent who’s been denied coverage in Medicaid and CHIP, and another person is required by court order to give medical support to the child. In this case, you do not have the pay the penalty for the child.

11. As a result of an eligibility appeals decision, you’re eligible for enrollment in a qualified health plan (QHP) through the Marketplace, lower costs on your monthly premiums, or cost-sharing reductions for a time period when you weren’t enrolled in a QHP through the Marketplace.

12. You were determined ineligible for Medicaid because your state didn’t expand eligibility for Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act.

13. Your individual insurance plan was cancelled and you believe other Marketplace plans are unaffordable.

14. You experienced another hardship in obtaining health insurance.
#3 is really good, too. You can get out of a federal tax penalty by not paying your utilities for a couple of months until they send you a shut-off notice. In almost every state, you get 10-30 days' notice to cure your nonpayment. So, take the notice and apply for the exemption; meanwhile, pay your past due balance.
To my understanding, people generally want to be insured. Risking the termination of utility services in order to avoid having to get insurance seems like the sort of tactically bad, lazy-at-all-costs thing that poor people do all the time in the minds of conservative dipshits, and incredibly rarely in real life. (See also the results of drug tests for welfare recipients.)
No they don't. People generally want to be healthy. Beyond that (when they're sick or busted) they want to be fixed. Once healthy again, they don't want to be indentured servants for the remainder of their days to pay the bills. But there is no risk. Once you get the late notice, it's the free-ride ticket, and then you pay the bill, and everything is fine with the utility again.
Nonsense. These are unsubstantiated right-wing talking points, empty rhetoric about "free-stuffers" - where is your evidence of this rampant abuse of the system? Never mind you evidently haven't looked into how the hardship waiver actually works. You realize that under the waiver you still have to buy a plan, it's just cheaper and it's temporary by design.
191  Other / Politics & Society / Re: More ObamaCare Exemptions on: August 19, 2014, 03:34:45 PM
As for the DV component of the hardship waiver, we're talking about a life event with far-reaching implications, and it is noble and keenly perceptive of the lawmakers to have included this exemption. DV incidents would be indicative of a high level of financial uncertainty, particularly when you consider the likelihood that the person making use of this hardship is financially dependent on the person who just went to jail for beating her up.
192  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Dirty Truth of Israel.............. on: August 19, 2014, 03:02:49 PM
Israel’s message to the Palestinians: Submit, leave or die

Hamas fu cked with the IDF bull, and now they are getting gored by the horns! Well done, IDF!

The IDF needs to establish a 'three wave' scorched earth march across Gaza, minimizing civilian damage except when Hamas uses them for cover. Then the same three waves need to march back across Gaza and eliminating every possible terrorist regardless of the cost.

I heard that some of our former SEALs and Rangers have gone over to act as Advisers to the front line IDF units. I suspect some are helicopter drivers familiar with the same US equipment the IDF has.
193  Other / Politics & Society / Re: More ObamaCare Exemptions on: August 19, 2014, 02:58:21 PM
Isn't this possibly impacted by states who don't have medicaid/medicare expansions?
It's just Medicaid that has an effect, but it's a very small piece of the total.
#13 is awesome, no.accountability just someone that feels the cost is too much.
Quote
Hardship exemptions

If you have any of the circumstances below that affect your ability to purchase health insurance coverage, you may qualify for a “hardship” exemption:

1. You were homeless.

2. You were evicted in the past 6 months or were facing eviction or foreclosure.

3. You received a shut-off notice from a utility company.

4. You recently experienced domestic violence.

5. You recently experienced the death of a close family member.

6. You experienced a fire, flood, or other natural or human-caused disaster that caused substantial damage to your property.

7. You filed for bankruptcy in the last 6 months.

8. You had medical expenses you couldn’t pay in the last 24 months which resulted in substantial debt.

9. You experienced unexpected increases in necessary expenses due to caring for an ill, disabled, or aging family member.

10. You expect to claim a child as a tax dependuh ent who’s been denied coverage in Medicaid and CHIP, and another person is required by court order to give medical support to the child. In this case, you do not have the pay the penalty for the child.

11. As a result of an eligibility appeals decision, you’re eligible for enrollment in a qualified health plan (QHP) through the Marketplace, lower costs on your monthly premiums, or cost-sharing reductions for a time period when you weren’t enrolled in a QHP through the Marketplace.

12. You were determined ineligible for Medicaid because your state didn’t expand eligibility for Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act.

13. Your individual insurance plan was cancelled and you believe other Marketplace plans are unaffordable.

14. You experienced another hardship in obtaining health insurance.
#3 is really good, too. You can get out of a federal tax penalty by not paying your utilities for a couple of months until they send you a shut-off notice. In almost every state, you get 10-30 days' notice to cure your nonpayment. So, take the notice and apply for the exemption; meanwhile, pay your past due balance.
To my understanding, people generally want to be insured. Risking the termination of utility services in order to avoid having to get insurance seems like the sort of tactically bad, lazy-at-all-costs thing that poor people do all the time in the minds of conservative dipshits, and incredibly rarely in real life. (See also the results of drug tests for welfare recipients.)
194  Other / Politics & Society / Re: More ObamaCare Exemptions on: August 19, 2014, 02:52:00 PM
Isn't this possibly impacted by states who don't have medicaid/medicare expansions?
It's just Medicaid that has an effect, but it's a very small piece of the total.
#13 is awesome, no.accountability just someone that feels the cost is too much.
Quote
Hardship exemptions

If you have any of the circumstances below that affect your ability to purchase health insurance coverage, you may qualify for a “hardship” exemption:

1. You were homeless.

2. You were evicted in the past 6 months or were facing eviction or foreclosure.

3. You received a shut-off notice from a utility company.

4. You recently experienced domestic violence.

5. You recently experienced the death of a close family member.

6. You experienced a fire, flood, or other natural or human-caused disaster that caused substantial damage to your property.

7. You filed for bankruptcy in the last 6 months.

8. You had medical expenses you couldn’t pay in the last 24 months which resulted in substantial debt.

9. You experienced unexpected increases in necessary expenses due to caring for an ill, disabled, or aging family member.

10. You expect to claim a child as a tax dependuh ent who’s been denied coverage in Medicaid and CHIP, and another person is required by court order to give medical support to the child. In this case, you do not have the pay the penalty for the child.

11. As a result of an eligibility appeals decision, you’re eligible for enrollment in a qualified health plan (QHP) through the Marketplace, lower costs on your monthly premiums, or cost-sharing reductions for a time period when you weren’t enrolled in a QHP through the Marketplace.

12. You were determined ineligible for Medicaid because your state didn’t expand eligibility for Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act.

13. Your individual insurance plan was cancelled and you believe other Marketplace plans are unaffordable.

14. You experienced another hardship in obtaining health insurance.
This is strange, I didn't remember you being a blindly-partisan retard... but here you are BADLY misrepresenting the PPACA.

The hardship exemption you reference can be applied for by filling out a form and providing documentation that your existing plan has been cancelled, so you're demonstrating not only that you did in fact lose coverage but also its costs. So "I don't feel like paying" still isn't a reasonable excuse. Premiums going from $100/month to $500/month? Perhaps. Premiums on cancelled plan were $100/month, you can now get covered for $90/month? I wouldn't expect that waiver to be granted.

But even if it is, it just means that you qualify for catastrophic coverage which still means you're buying insurance, you're just getting a plan which is bare-bones enough to be considered viable only as a short-term stopgap measure.
195  Other / Politics & Society / Re: More ObamaCare Exemptions on: August 19, 2014, 02:30:56 PM
Isn't this possibly impacted by states who don't have medicaid/medicare expansions?
196  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you think there's any future in Bitcoin? on: August 19, 2014, 02:26:10 PM
Public confidence in it has been dropping after the whole Mt Gox thing. On top of that, you have people investing in other bitcoin alternatives without the same success that bitcoin had.
197  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Women earn $0.77 for every $1 men earn. on: August 19, 2014, 02:19:56 PM
An executive was interviewing a young woman for a position in his company. He wanted to learn something about her personality, so he asked, "if you could have a conversation with anyone, living or dead, who would it be?"

She quickly responded, "The living one."
198  Other / Off-topic / Re: Honesty Integrity on: August 19, 2014, 01:02:54 PM
Does Individual honesty and or Personal Intellectual Integrity play any part in your Religious belief System?

The question stands.
Isn't it interesting that among the numerous Christians in this group who are reading this right now, they are the most reluctant to answer it?
199  Other / Off-topic / Re: Honesty Integrity on: August 19, 2014, 12:55:44 PM
Does Individual honesty and or Personal Intellectual Integrity play any part in your Religious belief System?


Well?  Is the question all that difficult to comprehend? Being a non-Christian I can state with certainty that without honesty and integrity a person has nothing. If you can't be honest, why would you bother participating in a discussion at all, unless your intentions are to knowingly post lies; to deliberately be dishonest?
Why do you Christians have a problem with an honest question?  It's not 'flame-bait".
Tolerance isn't enough:  Max Shulman's essay.  Engaging the idea is the only way to arrive at some range of truth.  Truth is a moving target.  Lies, when one believes, are not much easier to hit.

What I love about online discussions with you good people is the opportunity to speak freely without the consequences involved in discussing issues with family and friends.  So, I enjoy the honesty.  Now, some enjoy the lies.  That's fine.  Either way, the ideas are engaged and the possibility remains that truth will inevitably surface.

Frustrating, but not necessarily a waste of time.
You are not alone, umair127.  THE RULE at most family dinner discussions.....

No sex
No Politics
No religion...

But, don't discount the possibility of making friends, umair127, even if it is just in cyberspace.
200  Other / Off-topic / Re: Honesty Integrity on: August 19, 2014, 12:26:29 PM
Does Individual honesty and or Personal Intellectual Integrity play any part in your Religious belief System?


Well?  Is the question all that difficult to comprehend? Being a non-Christian I can state with certainty that without honesty and integrity a person has nothing. If you can't be honest, why would you bother participating in a discussion at all, unless your intentions are to knowingly post lies; to deliberately be dishonest?
Why do you Christians have a problem with an honest question?  It's not 'flame-bait".
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