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181  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2020, 02:39:36 PM




I observe some big ass walls over there.
But nothing the honey badger cant climb..
182  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2020, 12:26:12 PM
The ATH seems a big ass magnet attracting the price  Shocked
183  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2020, 09:54:45 AM
Go honey badger, go!

Nice battle for 19k
184  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 21, 2020, 11:11:34 PM
I just destroyed over 1,000 bitcoin days myself, but I didn’t sell any..

Me too.. I moved 18500usd paying a 10cent fee
185  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2020, 12:38:25 PM
*drying off with $8,000 towel.*

That's EPIC!

In my case, I'm currently using a $2000 Trezor...

At least we haven't been eating $90M pizzas (yet)!

I have a couple $1,300 sandwiches

Dont forget my $33,000 iphone 6..

(1.8 BTC on feb 2016)
186  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 19, 2020, 01:05:34 PM
I enjoy reading the thread these days.

Great posts, specially those from 600watt

thanks a lot! Merits depleted.
187  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2020, 10:53:05 PM
What I like about this month's big pump is that the few dumps that attempted to destroy it were quickly eaten out. This shows a strong upward momentum, which I hope will soon take us to ATH and beyond.

It's dumping again as I type this... Let's see... Will the above hold true?

In any case, I would still HoDL and wait.

I am happy I sold 2 pieces

1 piece  at 17900 and 1 piece at 18200

RSI above 84 on the 3D chart rarely holds without a proper correction 20% plus). The problem is timing the local top. It could be $23k for all we know  Roll Eyes

I bet we "correct" at 3d RSI 92, maybe after ATH..  Roll Eyes
188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PhoenixMiner 5.1c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux) on: November 16, 2020, 07:46:44 PM
Anybody using 1070? Two years ago all of the 1070s were pushing a constant 30-32 mh/s. Now, only one (EVGA) of them is pushing 29 mh/s, the rest (AERO MSI) are in the low 22-23 mh/s. I understand the 1070s are affected by the increased DAG size as well as nvidia's drivers. However, how come one of my card still pushes similar numbers to two years ago, is the EVGA using a more efficient memory or what causes this? I've tweaked mem/clock and TDP but nothing. Thanks.

OS: Win 10
Newest Nividia drivers
Latest/Beta PM.
Straps/vrtimings, etc. all applied


Thats not true.  1070s are NOT affected by DAG size so far.
All mine are hashing at 30 Mh/s with no problem.

It all depends on your system (power usage, OS, memory, driver...)

You are wrong, every Nvidia Pascal Card, reduce the hashrate with every new DAG epoche. It's the same bug as the AMD R9 290x and R9 390 in the past.
The reduction is not much, but it will happened, You see it, when you let your miner benchmark in epoch 0 and for example in epoch 300. Test it and you will see it dude;)

The user was referring a hashing speed of 22mh/s on a 1070.. and thats not related to DAG size. He has another problem, as i have all my 1070s at almost 30mh/s (@~125w)
189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PhoenixMiner 5.1c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux) on: November 16, 2020, 01:26:07 PM
Anybody using 1070? Two years ago all of the 1070s were pushing a constant 30-32 mh/s. Now, only one (EVGA) of them is pushing 29 mh/s, the rest (AERO MSI) are in the low 22-23 mh/s. I understand the 1070s are affected by the increased DAG size as well as nvidia's drivers. However, how come one of my card still pushes similar numbers to two years ago, is the EVGA using a more efficient memory or what causes this? I've tweaked mem/clock and TDP but nothing. Thanks.

OS: Win 10
Newest Nividia drivers
Latest/Beta PM.
Straps/vrtimings, etc. all applied


Thats not true.  1070s are NOT affected by DAG size so far.
All mine are hashing at 30 Mh/s with no problem.

It all depends on your system (power usage, OS, memory, driver...)
190  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 11, 2020, 01:23:06 PM
ladies and gentlemen. we are back in the top 20 of highest daily prices.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138109.msg55558514#msg55558514




That's usually a proven sign of a multi-year downtrend top, so I expect another 2-3 years trend toward $250 or so. Excellent shorting opportunity if you know enough science and math.

BRB selling all my coins

Tell me please, how were the other higher tops reached then??

191  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 07, 2020, 08:42:13 PM
Oh nooo!!!!... we are at last thursday's prices!!!  Grin

go BTC, gooo!!

192  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 05, 2020, 12:00:43 PM
Being a 2017 hodler survivor, i have these mixed emotions..

Feeling happy for the rise and frightened of suffering the same 2018 fate..

193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: MSI X570-A Pro motherboard, problems getting +2 gpu for mining on: October 22, 2020, 06:37:01 PM

None of my gpus are in actual board sockets all are on risers.


None of mine are in board sockets either. I use flat ribbon cable risers, with molex connector and caps. Btw, I prefer small rigs setups, with 4 gpu max.


I refuse to accept that all my rigs with Sempron140 from 2013 can handle 4 gpus, and this Ryzen 3900X setup on a x570 mobo cant cope with 3.
194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: MSI X570-A Pro motherboard, problems getting +2 gpu for mining on: October 22, 2020, 03:19:49 PM
Thanks for the advice, but its not power related.

Cards are undervolted (bios mod) and combined they consume 240w max while mining.. a 33% increase wouldnt compromise this 850w PSU.


have you measured it at the wall?  have you measured a peak at the wall?  is the power supply brand new? (refurbished psu aren't the best to be mining with... they fail for a reason that isn't always apparent.)

Its a brand new Corsair HX850i (platinum). i'm almost sure its not power related..

195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: MSI X570-A Pro motherboard, problems getting +2 gpu for mining on: October 22, 2020, 01:35:52 PM
Thanks for the advice, but its not power related.

Cards are undervolted (bios mod) and combined they consume 240w max while mining.. a 33% increase wouldnt compromise this 850w PSU.
I'm not CPU mining.

Next i'll revert MB bios to a previous one, 4 revisions old, as i read that in new versions they fix one thing and break another...

Version 7C37vH6 Release Date 2019-11-07

- Improved system boot up time.
- Improved PCI-E device compatibility.


I'm still trying slots combinations, but i'm starting to get concerned about premature wearing of pcie slots, because of insert/reinsert of risers. No point beating a dead horse  Grin Grin
196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: MSI X570-A Pro motherboard, problems getting +2 gpu for mining on: October 21, 2020, 09:17:17 PM
Make sure your M.2 slots are disabled.  Im trying to find the pcie diagram for that specific board but looks like they are probably shared with the M.2's

On mining rigs i disable just about everything that isnt needed audio / SATAs / M.2's / etc....

Found one in manual...looks like the GPU0 slot (main) can support a multiplex adapter to get the most out of the PCIE bus.  The one off the PCH seems to only support a single GPU. If you have something like a 1x4 PCIE adapter you may be able to get to 5 easily (4 off the plex and 1 off the slot2).  If you have a SQRL X2G laying around then things can get interesting.  Ive run those with one off main slot to get connection...then plugged another into a riser off the first port...getting 7 from the single slot (one is lost feeding from the first X2G to the 2nd X2G on a riser.). I know some had enough to get crazy numbers daisy chained. Fun stuff. 


Ive run into this problem with a couple of mobo's and have been able to solve with cheapo $10-$20 dollar 1x4 plexs.  I have had some plex cards i never got to work..but i must say the X2G's while not cheap are really high quality gear.  Of course proc also limits what can be done...but 2 seems REALLY too small.

Thanks for taking the time to look for info, miner. Really appreciated.

As you state, mobo manual says M.2 is not shared with pcie, and it shows only 1 pcie thru PCH.

If i dont get you wrong, i should multiplex from the main PCIE (CPU bus?), and use the PCH lane for the gaming card?



197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: MSI X570-A Pro motherboard, problems getting +2 gpu for mining on: October 21, 2020, 09:00:44 PM

another thing you can try (i've only seen this in one system i have... i'm currently running 24 systems) is plug one gpu in the pciex16 slot with video attached to it...and the rest where ever you want.

As i was saying, i had one system (the last system i built.. waiting for new release for next builds) that would not boot when i built it unless i have one gpu with monitor attached plugged in the first pciex16 slot... though it's a different problem than yours.

also, have you tried each card individually to make sure it isn't a specific gpu?

Also, make sure the pci-e slot isn't shared with something else creating a conflict.. i.e. pci-e x1 slot shared with pci-e ssd... pci-e x16 slots normally aren't shared slots, though the lanes could be split..i.e. physical x16 slot is really electrical x8.

16x is plugged and it's GPU1 in Win10.

Its not GPU related, as i swapped it from another working rig, swapped risers and many other tricks with no luck.

No conflicts (i guess), as i'm using storage at M.2

The manual states that some slots cant be used at once...
- 1x PCIe 4.0/ 3.0 x16 slot (PCI_E1)
- 1x PCIe 4.0/ 3.0 x16 slot (PCI_E3, supports x4 mode)
- 3x PCIe 3.0 x1 slots*  * PCI_E2 will be unavailable when installing the PCIe card in PCI_E4 slot

So, out of 5 slots, you should be able to use 4 at once...  But i cant manage to get 3 stable. Angry
What drives me crazy is that i'm able to get all 3 detected ok in Windows. Miner start building the DAG, and fails when it should start hashing..
Next boot the GPU dissappeared. Only cold boot and entering BIOS make it show again.

This MSI x570 looks ok for gaming, but maybe its not proper for mining (although the bios menu has options for doing so)


I'm currently checking the 'ASUS ROG STRIX B550-E Gaming' manual.. Still undecided






198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: MSI X570-A Pro motherboard, problems getting +2 gpu for mining on: October 21, 2020, 03:49:19 PM
Try use only risers. you can keep x16 slot one card others on risers. if you can try 1 by 1. but sometimes amd drivers will fail that way. after windows shows all your cards remove drivers using ddu in safe mode then install amd drivers back. if you plug botsh x16 slots you may have trouble. because x16 uses alot lanes, thats why use all with risers. good luck

Thats a good one to try. Thanks for your idea. I'll try 16x, 1x, 1x.

(i made this build partially for gaming, one 16x riser is a must)
199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: MSI X570-A Pro motherboard, problems getting +2 gpu for mining on: October 21, 2020, 03:46:23 PM
In 2017 I bought MSI Mortar Arctic B350, with 4 PCI-E, but I never managed to mine with 4 cards, only 3 and with some problems, tried everything like you said, update bios, change bios config, update windows, change risers, change cards etc, one day I was so tired that I sold this motherboard and bought Asus B350F Strix, and I put 6 cards running without any problem, simple and easy
After that I bought 2 more motherboards from Asus, the same model, and all worked great

Maybe the problem is the motherboard, and it's doesn't worth to spend a lot of time trying to fix this
I suspect there's something related to PCI lanes, but it's just a guess, the motherboard can't handle with more cards

The best thing to do is research before buy any motherboard, to see if the mobo is good to mine

I have many ASUS M5-A97 mining flawless since 2015. ASUS seems a great mobo maker, indeed.

Sadly, at the moment of building this rig, MSI was my only option available here.

Thanks for your tip.

update the bios.  I've had problems early on with the 4xx and 5xx series boards when they were first released with release bios in that they would only recognize a couple cards.  I think it was around AGESA 1.0.0.2 release for the bios that they started recognizing more cards.  Asus boards have worked the best for me.  They seem to release more BIOS updates more often.  Dealing with gigabyte has been a pain as bios updates are not that frequent.

I don't have that specific board.  i have the MSI X570 Gaming Pro Wifi, with a 3950X, two reference 5700 cards, and 1200 watt platinum ps.  All problems that i've had have been fixed with bios updates.

Yes, alucard, bios updates solved many issues in this case too. Like delayed boot and freezes, and PCIE compatibility....

Version 7C37vH6
Release Date 2019-11-07

Description
- Improved system boot up time.
- Improved PCI-E device compatibility.

Version 7C37vH5
Release Date 2019-10-30

Description
- Update AMD ComboPI1.0.0.4 Patch B (SMU v46.54)
- Improved system boot up time
- Improved NVMe device compatibility
- Supports AMD Ryzen 5 2400G and Ryzen 3 2200G CPU

and so on...  Msi seems quite active in this regard (or there are many bug to fix yet)
200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: MSI X570-A Pro motherboard, problems getting +2 gpu for mining on: October 21, 2020, 01:34:43 PM
I own lots of amd x570 mobos.

They suck with lots of cards.

you can run the cpu on xmr
you can run 2 cards on eth

they will work fine.

bump to the third card they crash.

I own 4 ryzen 3900x rigs with 1x 5500 or 1x 5600 or 1x 5700. 1x 1080ti 1x 1660ti all work great I mine both xmr with the cpu and eth with what ever gpu is in there.

most are okay with 2 cards all suck with 3 cards.

I have 2 thread rippers. on the Asus prime mobo
https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-trx40-pro/p/N82E16813119219?
I have a 3970 and a 3960.

They are great with 1 card
They are good with 2 cards
They are okay with 3 cards. At the moment I am running them with  1 power color  red dragon rx 5700xt


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WNYZJ7Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1




I owned 1 ryzen 3950x rig same issue.
I owned 1 ryzen 3800x
I owned 1 ryzen 3700x


So basically eight or nine mobos of x570 mobos 30 different cards and 3600 3700 3800 3900 3950 cpus. 

1 card great
2 cards good
3 cards spotty at best.

3 threadripper rigs-------- I sold my 1920 thread ripper
2 different mobos    Asus and Asrock taichi

1 card great
2 cards good
3 cards better then spotty

The amd threadripper cpus are really good for mining xmr

   a 3960 thread ripper with a amd 5700 is nice rig.  it won't pay off fast but if you do mixed use it is very nice.


Hey wallobserver Philipma! Thanks for your answer!

I went the x570 route as i wanted something decent for the Ryzen 3900x (for gaming, not for mining) and i thought the midrange chipset would be good enough for 3 cards.. big fail then.


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