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181  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Donning tin foil hat concerning multisig transactions on: January 30, 2012, 07:37:35 PM
This may hasten the day that a govt adopts bitcoin as a national currency. Bring it on!

If the govt gains power because people give them the power to control their money, then good for them. But then we will have a lot of people who may decide to jump the fence and run for it. Good for them too.

More people using bitcoins = progress. And at whatever cost.

I have been thinking it would be great to have an alt-coin designed around creating easy to set up currencies for small countries. It would include automatic taxation, inflation, and redistributionist rules. It would be able to contact a central government server so that taxes could automatically be passed to the separate bureaucracies of government. No need for a treasury, this will automatically be passed down the pipeline. Toss in merged mining and miners all around the world will have a little of that country's money, and will help with exports.

Basically you can have "smart" money that will behave according to publicly known rulesets, and with absolute transparency. The country could mint their own bills (or ahem printcoins Smiley and they could be deposited in your digital wallet by scanning them (no bank needed). Counterfeiting would be quickly detected, no one would need to control the production of money, and the government can add in whatever nasty little controls that they like.

The perfect stage for a compromise between liberty and authoritarian self-empowerment.
182  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Digg/Reddit like News site. Voting is based on Bitcoins! on: January 30, 2012, 07:19:17 PM
pretty cool stuff  Grin One thing you should change is " Put your money where your mind is"  shouldn't it be " Put your bitcoins where your mind is" ? just my 2 cents.

It doesn't really sound as smooth. I consider bitcoins money, so using the word money seems to work fine.

I'm still having trouble posting in the "Hated" (hopefully, soon to be renamed) section.

~Bruno~


Just post something and down vote it. Anything with negative BTC will appear there.

Stupid me! Got it! I just want to let you know again that I feel you have a great product here. Anytime I think of something that I feel will help you, I will freely share with you.

I think that later down the road as more people post stuff, you may have to go with that micro-payment-to-post aspect. Then again, maybe not. Just thought of something. If I post something and truly want it to get to the top of the ladder, so to speak, all I have to do is fund it. Forgive me if this has already been discussed but I'm high as a kite on Vicadins at the moment. (knee hurts)


The more people post stuff, the more it will matter that they pay. The "newest" list is the only place unfunded stuff shows, and it will only show the newest 100 posts. If people spam the heck out of it, they will all just fall off the stream.

I consider newest to be just a holding ground for things that need funding.

Enjoy the drugs, and thank you for giving suggestions. I enjoy improving this site.

BTW, there is now a twitter feed:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61930.0
183  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Top Posts on Coinsmack -> Twitter on: January 30, 2012, 07:06:31 PM
I set it up so the current top post of the day (as long as it is not the same as the previous day) on http://coinsmack.com will be posted to twitter at @CoinSmack:
https://twitter.com/CoinSmack

So if you would like to follow that feed, it will be fairly light as far as post counts (at most once a day), but should have interesting things.

If you aren't into twitter, you can add the feed to your RSS reader with this url:
https://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name=coinsmack

Or those who don't like all this new-fangled web junk, you can use this:
http://www.feedmyinbox.com/
and paste in the rss feed url in to receive it at your email inbox.


184  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Digg/Reddit like News site. Voting is based on Bitcoins! on: January 29, 2012, 05:56:53 PM
I'm still having trouble posting in the "Hated" (hopefully, soon to be renamed) section.

~Bruno~


Just post something and down vote it. Anything with negative BTC will appear there.
185  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: All The Fees on: January 29, 2012, 03:46:02 PM
The developers have acknowledged that fee size determination in Bitcoin is broken. It could work though, the infrastructure is there, but we need a way to figure out how to communicate fee size between payers and miners.
The reason why I love bitcoin is the lack of fees!  I now do most of my transactions fee-less.  I am buying and selling directly with others and have far less in the way of BTC-USD need.  When it happens it is 25 cents Dwolla and .5 % exchange fees, which is pretty low when you do $300 worth. 
Don't get too attached to that. Fees will have to be introduced at some point (they already are in some cases). Mining rigs and the electricity they consume is not free.

The amount of energy consumed grows to match the price of bitcoins. Energy is basically the margin cost of mining, and bitcoins is the revenue. Miners will start buying more cards to mine more when the payout is higher, eventually pushing them to an equilibrium where everyone starts complaining that it is not profitable any more.

If the revenue were to drop to 1BTC per block, miners would start unplugging their machines to cut costs, and the difficulty would drop to match this change. Once you win a block, the cost to add a transaction is nearly nil, and to ignore low value transactions will mean that the next miner will be able to take them and pocket them.

Keep in mind that more's law also applies to miners, and 2 years from now all that mining equipment will be obsolete, so unless miners keep buying equipment, they will be replace by a new set of miners who will get twice the hash rate at half the cost (energy consumption probably won't drop).

Unless some miners get 50% of the hashing power (or some cartel forms), market laws will apply, and the cost to add a transaction will be the limit to the actual required fee. All that power consumption and fancy graphics cards will end up being sunk cost at the point of transaction recording, and thus be irrelevant.
186  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Digg/Reddit like News site. Voting is based on Bitcoins! on: January 28, 2012, 06:53:44 PM
I am afraid I don't understand what is being suggested.

Anyone want to explain it in sudocode.
187  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Now Here: Casascius 1000 BTC Fine Gold Coin on: January 28, 2012, 02:35:12 AM
dollars cost 9c to make and last 2 yrs.
188  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Now Here: Casascius 1000 BTC Fine Gold Coin on: January 27, 2012, 10:17:39 PM
A quick question for Casascius:

(I appreciate that a lot of the value in your coins is commemorative rather than functional; it's not like I can put them in vending machines)

You're making some lovely products; but you seem to be making them in larger and larger denominations.  With bitcoin prices going up and up, isn't it the low denominations that are missing?

Already the 1 BTC coins are uncomfortably large for pocket change.  If we ever hit $30 again, then there will surely be space for $1, $2, $5 equivalents?  Perhaps the overheads are too high to make low denominations practical?

The above is not criticism; I'm merely interested.


I think he is aiming more for the collector items rather than pocket change. If you are looking for small potatoes, I have a 0.50 bill, and if the price gets up to $10 I will probably be making smaller denomination bills (I have them planned all the way down to 0.01 BTC).

Mike makes an excellent product and as such it costs him a lot to produce it.

For those who feel that this locks up bitcoins, keep in mind that whatever isn't get locked in the coin is part of a free market exchange for labor and materials (in this case gold) and thus stimulates the bitcoin economy. I also imagine that many of his smaller value coins are used as gifts and thus spreads the idea of bitcoin beyond the tech savvy community.

When someone sees this gold coin on some well-to-do's person office wall, they will know that this bitcoin thing is serious and maybe they should get in on the action.
189  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: All The Fees on: January 27, 2012, 03:45:41 PM
Which fees?
Fees for convenience?

Bank->Dwolla = free
Dwolla->MtGox = $.25
MtGox->BTC = typically .5% to .6% for majority of users, I imagine

Total exchange fees for Bank(USD)->BTC = .6% + $.25

Fee for transaction in the same currency using Paypal? 2.9% + $.30

0.6% isn't so bad. You can always get your BTC the old fashioned way. You can earn them. I have never bought any bitcoins through an exchange, and only bought a couple bitcoins off of a miner in person when I started. Everything else was from selling something.

Speculators have their role, but in any health currency they should constitute only about 5% (number pulled from...) of the transactions.

If you have anything you can sell, or can make and sell, or a service that people actually want, then sell them in bitcoins. You don't even need a website. Just use the marketplace. It could use something other than someone selling.
190  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Digg/Reddit like News site. Voting is based on Bitcoins! on: January 27, 2012, 03:29:25 PM
There is now a section in the site called "hated" which is all things that have negative BTC values.
191  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Digg/Reddit like News site. Voting is based on Bitcoins! on: January 27, 2012, 01:16:54 AM

There was in the original design a down button. Down votes were counted twice what up votes were counted, and nothing went to the poster. The down vote would be another address for the post.


You are completely missing the point.

When staring at the facebook "like" icon, how often have you wished for a "dislike" icon that might link to a "hatebook" instead?
If you are me, this occurs several times a day. I have no facebook page, but I am ready to sign up for hatebook right now.

Your site's potential profitability is directly proportional to the amount of attention paid to it. Hateful stuff attracts attention.

I propose that you monetize social network connections emerging from common hate. This is an under-exploited niche in my view.


If this ain't a million dollar idea post, I will lick Matthews balls in front of the Cheomseongdae Observatory during peak visiting hour.


I hate eating balls!



We will see. After seeing a bunch of requests for this, I am going with the flow. There are now down-votes on the site. Down-votes count twice as much as up-votes.

I'll add the hated section tomorrow.



192  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertising slot Printcoins.com on: January 26, 2012, 11:02:09 PM
Spike is now up on the site.
193  Economy / Auctions / Re: $100 Apple Giftcard on: January 26, 2012, 10:11:46 PM
Ok, sorry for being defensive. I misperceived your intent.

194  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Digg/Reddit like News site. Voting is based on Bitcoins! on: January 26, 2012, 09:55:25 PM
The current HOT formula is [total BTC / sqrt(time since post)] correct? This would mean something really old would be better off being reposted if there was a resurgence of interest.

It could be (payment/sqrt(time since this payment) + (payment/sqrt(time since this payment) + (payment/sqrt(time since this payment) + ...

So that if something starts getting paid a lot again it doesn't have the baggage of being old (which would just make someone make a duplicate posting anyway). In fact under the current setup (if I understand correctly) it would pay for someone to go around making copies of all content that was still getting paid but was somewhat old because their copy could get above the original somewhat cheaply and start earning the influx of new money on it.

Very clever, I like it. It will require a little block parsing, but it would make for a great weighting system.
195  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertising slot Printcoins.com on: January 26, 2012, 07:27:41 PM
Friendly reminder:

Don't forget to actually send me the image url, link url, and alt text for your ads.
196  Economy / Auctions / Re: $100 Apple Giftcard on: January 26, 2012, 07:18:51 PM


It sucks for you because you expected to get what you were entitled to as the winner.


Sorry, rob, but it sucks for you.  For printcoin to be successful, it requires that people implicitly trust you.  Refusing to honor terms that you yourself set out calls that trust into question.   It won't be long before people start calling you a scammer in your printcoin threads.

[I don't say this as a threat, it's just the natural course of action on this forum.]

I did not make any gain off of this, so calling it a scam (and me a scammer) is very poor wording.

If anything, this is a breach of contract. I am willing to accept a reasonable penalty, and offered up $5.5 of the $30 that was his bid. He has not rejected that, and I am optimistic that this can be settled fairly.

I have made two attempts to work out a reasonable solution, and you should at least let him respond before tossing in your troll like messages.

Quote
It won't be long before people start calling you a scammer in your printcoin threads.

[bla bla threat that isn't a threat, that really is a threat]
Bite me.
197  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Digg/Reddit like News site. Voting is based on Bitcoins! on: January 26, 2012, 02:29:24 PM
I think charging even .001 for posting is bad. Finding great stuff and showing it to us is now a great way for someone to get their first coins. If spam gets to be a problem make a checkbox for "hide 0BTC items"
Posting is free, but will only show up under "newest" listing. For something to be "hot" on the front page, it needs to receive btc.
198  Economy / Auctions / Re: $100 Apple Giftcard on: January 26, 2012, 02:47:25 AM
what happened? did he get his gift card ?

I pmed him but haven't heard back.

The OP's PM stated that he couldn't honor the final bid of $30 for this gift card but that he would like an "offer somewhere near the actual gift card price".

Well this is an auction, so my bid was my 'offer'. If you did not want to sell it at that price, then you should either have set a larger starting bid or a stated a minimum reserve, both of which you did not do.

IMO, this is untrustworthy behavior.

You are right. I made a mistake and should have put in some type of reserve. I had no idea that the bid was going to be anything nearly as low as it turned out.

It sucks for you because you expected to get what you were entitled to as the winner.

Would a bitcoin be fair as a way to make it up to you?
199  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Digg/Reddit like News site. Voting is based on Bitcoins! on: January 26, 2012, 12:50:42 AM
For those that are interested, I added RSS feeds to all lists on the site.

So you can have your rss reader track the newest, hotest, or top items in any category.
200  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Digg/Reddit like News site. Voting is based on Bitcoins! on: January 25, 2012, 09:55:55 PM
Clever.  At least it wasn't a more malicious attack.

There really isn't a whole lot of maliciousness that can be done on the site. The db works on an insert only basis, so nothing is every overwritten, and there is no sensitive data on the machine (no passwords, private keys, etc).

Mostly users can only do some front end funkyness, and I think this is the only place I didn't sanitize what was entered (I built the select element directly from stuff from the db like a fool).
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