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NEM is a clone what will happen to it six months down the road? Will they continue to copy NXT features? There is no point in NEM currencies like Ripple, Counterparty, Cloaksend, Mastercoin, NXT, and MaidSafe are more original than NEM
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Actually if you were around for long enough you wouldnt be saying that. If any coin is copying things its NXT. It was born out of BCNext envy of Ripple (you can see it in his main post) from whom he copied entire premine idea, then he copied POS from PeerCoin, then he copied decentralized exchange from Ripple, then Alliases from Ripple, now Gateways from Ripple and not to mention colored coins.
Go to their forum and read how their main developer come from above and beyond is openly talking how he is watching NEM to copy from it same as he did with copying from other coins.
Other then digital goods store (which is frustration since no normal store accepts nxt, and will probably be a land for thiefs and scammers same as asset exchange) which idea was originally from next?
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Damn you're smart.....or not. Again, do some research before you try to troll, 'coz this is just too easy: Digital Goods Store: Its stuff, like actual things, not assets. Assets are traded on the Asset Exchange (see...theres a clue in the name) https://nxtforum.org/digital-goods-store/Multigateway is a gateway, so not an exchange, nothing stored on it so nothing to hack. (again...gave ya a clue in the name) But if you want to buy some BTC, this is where you can do it. https://nxtforum.org/multigateway-jl777/nxtBridge: Yeah, you got me. Its a bridge. It goes up, ships go underneath, it goes back down again. I just made it up to sound cool. Secure Asset Exchange: https://nxtforum.org/secure-asset-exchange/introduction-to-secure-asset-exchange/https://trade.secureae.com/#6932037131189568014Oh, its EvilDave again, person that keeps saying that Nxt is fastest crypto out there........before I do the calculation again, I must tell you that you should make your own asset on Nxt AE named Evil666Dave and you will probably get rich  Lets calculate, it takes 10 confirmations for NXT to be transfered. That is at 1,7 minute per block 17 minutes (for full confirmation it takes 1 day but I will not calculate with that to make it look better on NXT). Ripple takes 5 seconds. 5 seconds is 12 times less then 1 minute so 12*17 minutes = 204 times. So Ripple is at least 204 times faster then NXT so stop spreading lies, its easy for anyone to see through it. Can I see that quote from me where i claim that NXT is faster than Ripple ? NXT transfers are on your wallet almost immediately, spendable within 10 confirmations, and start forging after 1440. Simple.
So 10 confirmations is 17 minutes.....whats your point? You called me a blatant lier for telling ripple is 150 times fasterAnd.....are you telling me that currency exchange will not have centralized wallets? rofl Yeah, it's not an exchange...it's a gateway. Big difference. You still telling people btc is not stored in a wallet? Sounds interesting how far nxt people are ready to go lolAnd....with straight face you actually say that digital goods store will not have over 99% assets listed as scams? rofl For the second time: Assets on the Asset Exchange, actual stuff (goods) on the Digital Goods Store.So, asset that doesnt do nothing, and digital goods that dont get delivered (or are in copyright protection default)...again what are you trying to say?Well, its enough if sane person looks at Nxter AE and see how many of them is not scam Could you find a sane person to take a look, then?Get them to look at: https://trade.secureae.com/#12465186738101000735Italics are mine, dumb is all from Atoni. [/quote] Your personal attacks on me instead of telling facts tell me exactly at which development level you are. But I can understand, if you bought nxters at 9 cents you have every reason to lie to people about it. (although I dont approve such behavior)Red is from me, italics are from.....well let the public decide, EvilDave |
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just throwing this in here: nxt multigateway
Yes, especially with recent Klee episode. Sounds like very smart for people to send bitcoins to people that never ran currency exchange. |
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So: Digital goods store = around 1000 more scam assets to get nexter from fair people Multigateway trading = devs get more trading fees (and later probably get hacked for all your nexter...basically centralized exchange but this time devs with no experience at all of running currency exchange running it, rofl) nxtBridge = I suppose you are going to bridge Nxt with San Francisco Secure Asset Exchange = Are you telling me that currently its not safe to trade my nexter to assets?  ? You must be kidding me, this is ridiculous, are you the hacker that hacked Klee? Damn you're smart.....or not. Again, do some research before you try to troll, 'coz this is just too easy: Digital Goods Store: Its stuff, like actual things, not assets. Assets are traded on the Asset Exchange (see...theres a clue in the name) https://nxtforum.org/digital-goods-store/Multigateway is a gateway, so not an exchange, nothing stored on it so nothing to hack. (again...gave ya a clue in the name) But if you want to buy some BTC, this is where you can do it. https://nxtforum.org/multigateway-jl777/nxtBridge: Yeah, you got me. Its a bridge. It goes up, ships go underneath, it goes back down again. I just made it up to sound cool. Secure Asset Exchange: https://nxtforum.org/secure-asset-exchange/introduction-to-secure-asset-exchange/https://trade.secureae.com/#6932037131189568014Oh, its EvilDave again, person that keeps saying that Nxt is fastest crypto out there........before I do the calculation again, I must tell you that you should make your own asset on Nxt AE named Evil666Dave and you will probably get rich Lets calculate, it takes 10 confirmations for NXT to be transfered. That is at 1,7 minute per block 17 minutes (for full confirmation it takes 1 day but I will not calculate with that to make it look better on NXT). Ripple takes 5 seconds. 5 seconds is 12 times less then 1 minute so 12*17 minutes = 204 times. So Ripple is at least 204 times faster then NXT so stop spreading lies, its easy for anyone to see through it. And.....are you telling me that currency exchange will not have centralized wallets? rofl And....with straight face you actually say that digital goods store will not have over 99% assets listed as scams? rofl Well, its enough if sane person looks at Nxter AE and see how many of them is not scam |
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That is worrying. The only thing I'd disagree with the OP on though is that if Vericoin had been a lot bigger it wouldn't have been a bigger problem, it wouldn't have been a problem at all because there is no way you could ever have 30% of a widely distributed coin held on a single exchange. That only happened because VRC is new, not owned by a lot of people, and not traded at a lot of different places.
I don't think its realistic to fear this happening to a large PoS coin like NXT as someone else mentioned above.
Nxt is actually the most vulnerable, because BCNEXT and his alts control over 50% of network, if he held passwords in same place like Klee its very likely that we see 51% on nexters very soon. You can read on Salsazs blog how many nexters have been released to people to trade and how many is held by founder, a pocket change. Name of blog is pretty good too, it tells you how creator got rich lol http://nxtcoin.blogspot.com/2014/06/how-nxt-changed-our-lives-james.html |
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That is worrying. The only thing I'd disagree with the OP on though is that if Vericoin had been a lot bigger it wouldn't have been a bigger problem, it wouldn't have been a problem at all because there is no way you could ever have 30% of a widely distributed coin held on a single exchange. That only happened because VRC is new, not owned by a lot of people, and not traded at a lot of different places.
I don't think its realistic to fear this happening to a large PoS coin like NXT as someone else mentioned above.
Nxt is actually the most vulnerable, because BCNEXT and his alts control over 50% of network, if he held passwords in same place like Klee its very likely that we see 51% on nexters very soon. |
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The decentralized exchange is neat, however, because of coloured coins, there is few reasons to hold NXT.
Imho, the distribution is still not good enough to sustain an higher market-cap than what it has now.
Exactly. The piss poor distribution killed off NxT. NxT used to be $0.08+ until people realized it was premined by a few people. Maybe if NxT had better distribution it could be $300+ million by now but no point in dealing in hypothetical as the NxT was approached back in 2013 about doing a second IPO and the greedy whales said no. NxT is truly a get quick rich scheme as their whales are more concerned about how they can get their money out then growing NxT to be a competitor to BTC. You're obviously nowhere near up-to-date with the developments in NXT. or you're just trolling and spreading FUD as usual. In the next weeks NXT is going to be rolling out a shitload of new features, to go with all of the amzing stuff that has already been implemented: Here's a small selection: New NRS software, version 1.2.2 Digital Goods Store Mulitgateway trading nxtBridge Secure Asset Exchange This is in addition to all of the activity in projects that are based on NXT, and the implemantation of NXT on a wide range of new trading platforms. How you can be ignorant of all of this amazes me....... You are aware that NEM was created by NXT'ers as a response to an attack on NXT? You are also aware that most NEM stakeholders are also NXT investors? Maybe you noticed that NEMstake is being listed on NXTs Asset Exchange (and now on the Secure AE?) So why the f**k are you constantly attacking the only community that actually helped to create and sustain NEM? So: Digital goods store = around 1000 more scam assets to get nexter from fair people Multigateway trading = devs get more trading fees (and later probably get hacked for all your nexter...basically centralized exchange but this time devs with no experience at all of running currency exchange running it, rofl) nxtBridge = I suppose you are going to bridge Nxt with San Francisco Secure Asset Exchange = Are you telling me that currently its not safe to trade my nexter to assets? ? You must be kidding me, this is ridiculous, are you the hacker that hacked Klee? |
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Are you saying you wouldnt rate Facebook as Buy? Does Mark knows that?
How about JL777Hodl, should I buy those? it has pretty cute name
Dont buy anything there, it's dangerous. You know, there was always something suspicious to me about JL777Hodl asset because he never had a logo contest. But I believe you, its to many scams out there to invest. So I figured only way for me to earn some nexters is to start my own asset. I will call it Atoni888Buy. Will you invest? Can you please give me some link to nexters ae logo contest so I can give 10 Atoni888Buy assets to best nexter designers? Thank you in advance |
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I will buy NXT and then buy Facebook with it on asset exchange. I am amazed how such obscure currency managed to land such big company to get listed. Will I get rich with it? We will see, I hope Mark keeps with doing good job!
Don't. You obviously don't understand what a decentralized exchange is. Stay away from it. Are you saying you wouldnt rate Facebook as Buy? Does Mark knows that? How about JL777Hodl, should I buy those? it has pretty cute name |
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If you didnt notice I was laughing not whining but i guess in nxt world every thing can be truth
Just don't buy it anyway, NXT doesn't like you  I will buy NXT and then buy Facebook with it on asset exchange. I am amazed how such obscure currency managed to land such big company to get listed. Will I get rich with it? We will see, I hope Mark keeps with doing good job! |
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Sure, I will buy NXT and be happy seeing my investment going in the direction that graph shows lol
No, please don't buy it, it is not for whiners. If you didnt notice I was laughing not whining but i guess in nxt world every thing can be truth |
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You've just confirmed my suspicion about you being butthurt, well, my friend, you are the only person on Earth that can help yourself. Nobody else can. Only you.
Sure, I will buy NXT and be happy seeing my investment going in the direction that graph shows lol |
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Considering it went from 9 cents to 4 cents in 1 month I think correct word to use would be implode.
I noticed you butthurt or something about NXT, what's your problem? Don't like it - don't invest. Did I say something that isnt true? I think only thing that isnt true is nxt web page which lies about nxt being the fastest crypto and that it doesnt charges any fees for asset exchange. Oh and I forgot about John, where are those 5 big news and big companies that are coming to nxt? haha, it was only used to lurk noobs into pump and dump..... it seems now is dump time: http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nxt/ (click link and choose 30 days) |
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Considering it went from 9 cents to 4 cents in 1 month I think correct word to use would be implode.
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As I received a private invitation to the NRM project core discussion I decided to actually read what this coin is all about: NOTHING [/b] I would love seeing the "DNS" system where the URI entries actually expire eventually. I would love an automated way to determine the "fees". But ultimately there is absolutely nothing NEM can offer than a "make rich quick scam" to some individuals through a promise of "fair distribution" These developers should focus their efforts implementing stuff for NXT and not a new coin. Stop reinventing the already rotating wheel -_-! Any shitcoin developer should stop reinventing already rotating wheel and develop for bitcoins. He might actually see his development used by someone. |
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Maybe best is to buy NXT wait till it drops to 2 cents and sell it. You will only lose 50% of investment while on asset exchange you will probably lose a lot more.
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Buy Facebook or Google, those payout nice dividends. Or Silver, that one has market cap in trillions so you are probably safe with it. EDIT: Or smokeshares or jl777hodl, those have nice names so someone will buy them from you at higher price EDIT2: Cointropolis sounds good too, it has very good leader. |
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Yes.. let's buy a coin which is 98% premine by a company. It must make people feel nice to know you are trading $Fiat for magical coins so some executive can afford a private jet.
You cannot premine a non mineable coin. As NEM investor you should know that Further more, only 27% of coins have currently been distributed because its still in Beta and they dont want to screw distribution like many other coins did (will not name names but we know that some coins got distributed to only 5 friends of founder, or even possible that founder was all of those 5 friends). On top of that, out of 27 billion currently distributed coins over 10 billion was donated to good causes (9 billion by CEO or his entire stash, and around 1 billion by Jed McCalleb who might donate rest of it too) so that makes Ripple the MOST altruistic coin out there. More money was donated by Ripple then is currently largest investment round in any of BitCoin companies. What astonishes me the most is complete ignorance of most of Crypto community. Did you know that Ripple White Paper was created in 2005 and was PRIMARY tool used by Satoshi to make Bitcoin? Without Ripple there is NO ANY OTHER CRYPTO, full stop. |
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as we all know utopianfuture was caught having a large amount of sockpuppets in own allegedly fair and egalitarian project and had to go and say good bye re-joining the project with different nicknames (Hi UTOPIA i know u r reading my nifty boy ) now ppl are not talking about this cuz it makes them look like utter hypocrites. i can talk about it tho. If the devs r smart they will rebrand NEM. This coin has nothing to do with "fairness" (UF ruined his own idea) nor with "new" movement (noone explained what is new in repeating scheme invented by FrictionlessCoin). Frankly saying, the devs don't have a choice, if they stick to the original name and idea they will show that they endorse scam initiated by UF. I call it scam, coz NEM has nothing to do with bringing economy back to people unless we r talking about those chosen ones who will control a quarter of all the coins. ~CfA~Instead of focusing on NEM, NXT developer Come-From-Above should at least stop spreading lies about Nxt. Their web page still says its the fastest crypto while Ripple which was made 1 year before Nxt is at least 150 times faster (thats not 150% but 150 times faster). Edit: it also says there is no fees for asset exchange despite charging even for placing or removing orders which is unheard of in financial world (not to even mention that you are paying for order to be placed in almost 5 minutes which is also unheard of in financial world (so much about speed).....and I am not even gonna go into fact that over 95% of assets listed there are created by devs with only intent to scam people for money......everyone go buy some nxt and buy google and facebook and apple on their exchange, I heard that general electric, coca cola and procter and gamble are coming too! rofl) Moron. Spreading complete fud about NXT is not the way to go..... CfA is not Come-from-Beyond, not even slightly. Your claim on Ripple being 150 times faster is complete bollocks, The order placement fee for NXT AE is tiny (1NXT right now, going lower soon), The order speed is slow by design which means that HFT/bot trading is not possible on NXT AE And although there are some scammy assets (like in everything) there area hell of a lot of real projects and products listed on the AE. I like NEM and want it to be a success, but this sort of FUD pisses me off. Really? Lets calculate, it takes 10 confirmations for NXT to be transfered. That is at 1,7 minute per block 17 minutes (for full confirmation it takes 1 day but I will not calculate with that to make it look better on NXT). Ripple takes 5 seconds. 5 seconds is 12 times less then 1 minute so 12*17 minutes = 204 times. So Ripple is at least 204 times faster then NXT so stop spreading lies, its easy for anyone to see through it. I got charged over 100 NXT because I had to keep removing and increasing my offers on NXT AE and I didnt even do any trades yet, so I got charged 5 USD for not even doing any trading which is even more then Goldman Sachs would charge me for real trade. If NXT AE is on purposely irritatingly slow then I really dont understand that. Since beginning of 1990s almost every company offered Real Time trading, so its one of the weirdest decision ever to make it extremely slow so its basically not even possible to trade normally. Out of 170 assets how many is real assets? rofl I think instead of spreading lies about NXT it would be a lot better if you change the web page to be honest one, it doesnt help NXT too much when people see they are not getting what they were promised. |
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Isnt' nem clone of nxt?
No. |
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