I honoustly do not understand why people want to sell @ these prices but maybe someone can explain that to me? Because you can make a nice profit with trading. Profit making on a coin that is going down is a little bit hard i guess. You sell it @1020 buy it back @1000 and after that its worth 980sat so were is the profit? I see 20k sold @993. Does that person think he can buy it back @963? I really do not understand that people dump a good working coin with a good development and buy a shit coin instead with no development? Are people in this cryptoworld that stupid. I am trading 20+ years in this world allrdy from stocks to big quantities of stuff and cannot see any logics in this Traders trade, investors invest, fanboys whine. Nuff said
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We are going up again !! Now do not look back untill Christmas 2020 Edit: Keep them comming for those 0.06 eurocents Reality check folks: The result of 2.0 release without any promotion/marketing! Merry Christmas!!
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There is a difference between marketing and promoting. The marketing is actually not the problem, the product is great, does what it should. Now we have to promote it. To companies and consumers. So where can we bring those in contact with the product the easiest way? Payment system fairs? Shopping centres? Any ideas?
It's amazing to see how deeply you Gulden fanboys have been doctrined into this "marketing is evil, only development is good" paradigm of Rijk! It's starting to look like a bad remake of the movie The Wave! The 2.0 release is out for for a week now and Gulden is trading below 1k sat. At what point are you dumb facks going to realize good development needs good marketing as well? And that also means it's going to cost (good marketing that is). So spare everyone the trouble of sponsoring a footgolf tournament that had ZERO exposure and start putting pressure on your fuhrer to use some of YOUR money (that 650BTC he got in return for "shares") and hire descent marketeers. I said it before, Rijk is going to deliver the best DVD player in the world in a couple of years and maybe a few retro-tech-heads would want one for it's sublime design. The rest of us will have moved on to Netflix. MARKETINGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!
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A very good read indeed and it sometimes feels like Rijk actually does read this forum Waiting for the breakdowns of Rich P., Fantonas and Krusty. A lot has been said. Take it apart for us :p I couldn't hold back the tears, as I was reading and looking at the price I knew this alternative to viagra had failed and I went soft and small like a Eskimo aka gulden price. A special thanks to Krusty for taking the lead! I guess I could say it's good that Rijk finally showed some interest in communicating beyond his inner circle, but I know this is all just a cry for attention after his 2.0 release didn't result in the massive hype he hoped. There are so many more aspects to the story he told (and cleverly left out) that I sooner had a laugh than shed a tear. I guess the clowns have the last laugh though. Your turn Fantonas!
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Finally you've said something positive about Gulden. You're acknowledging it's a usuable currency. Can't find many in this market (unless you want to watch some Porn) Well, that's a truth I can acknowledge for a change. You Gulden fanboys don't need porn indeed. All you do it circle jerk around the table on which Rijk has just twisted a big turd. three more hours before the massive 2.0 update release on 28th of June becomes yet another epic failure.
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Well, if we won’t consider marketing, Rijk or Price, who, other than ourselves, are we talking to here than?
Especially without the marketing, no one will know about your beloved update right?
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Despite Rijk and his policy being utter shit as said by the forum trolls various times in this topic.
NLG will have one of the most innovative update rolling out in 2 days. Never before in Blockchain history such a massive and game-changing update has been released in the crypto-world. We have Rijk to thank that he found Malcolm to do the hard work. Ask any developer, they will all agree that Malcolm's work is top notch, possibly the best developer in crypto.
We should stop caring about Rijk and his so called "official" Slack channel.
We can make a difference.
In two days, the most innovative blockchain upgrade will be rolled out.
For a second, do not consider the price, do not consider the marketing, do not consider Rijk.
Consider if you want to be part of the most sophisticated blockchain updates ever.
The Nazi's also managed to build the best infrastructure (Autobahns) and design high quality cars for the masses (Volkswagen). Still it would have helped history a lot if they got rid of their ruler at an earlier stage That is something you honestly can't know. There are infinite possibilities if we got rid of Hitler earlier. Could have been much worse, could have been much better today.Same as that we don't know that Gulden is better off without Rijk, we just can not tell. Time will tell In some countries you can get prosecuted for denying the holocaust you know?
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Despite Rijk and his policy being utter shit as said by the forum trolls various times in this topic.
NLG will have one of the most innovative update rolling out in 2 days. Never before in Blockchain history such a massive and game-changing update has been released in the crypto-world. We have Rijk to thank that he found Malcolm to do the hard work. Ask any developer, they will all agree that Malcolm's work is top notch, possibly the best developer in crypto.
We should stop caring about Rijk and his so called "official" Slack channel.
We can make a difference.
In two days, the most innovative blockchain upgrade will be rolled out.
For a second, do not consider the price, do not consider the marketing, do not consider Rijk.
Consider if you want to be part of the most sophisticated blockchain updates ever.
The Nazi's also managed to build the best infrastructure (Autobahns) and design high quality cars for the masses (Volkswagen). Still it would have helped history a lot if they got rid of their ruler at an earlier stage
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Rijk is no longer in this to make money, he already owns enough to retire thanks to the Gulden zombies that blindly donated him their hard earned cash.
He is only in it for the power. To be able to decide who gets to be part of his pact and who gets banned. He is as they say the ruler of the Gulden empire.
Anyone know how the word "ruler" translates to German?
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"He simply doesn't give a hoots ass!!!"
That said, still going up Top 200 still possible in 2 days !! It's the illusion of moving forward in a train, while the other train next to you is the one actually moving. Other alts going down faster than you, doesn't necessarily mean you are going up! The ciphers are still red in your screenshot.
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I have a question : Is this guy stupid or his brain was affected by a thickness when he was young ? Another proof that this guy do not care about you, gulden , or your investment. Now you get it? I like the "Dev's have better things to do" part the most! So let's see, he hired his brother Rits Plasman to become the "lead IOS developer" of Gulden (at a fulltime high ranked salary). This of course after the family Plasman failed to get him a € 120k salary as a member of parliament: https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2017/01/06/schoon-schip-6103854-a1540178Then let's look at his track record shall we? Of course he must be the most perfect IOS developer in the world, otherwise he would never be good enough for Gulden Right?: https://itunes.apple.com/nl/developer/rits-plasman/id320531297Nice track record!! This gives to think again doesn't it? Why on earth would the guy in charge of Gulden, with a huge multi million Euro budget (donated by the community) and the tenancy to only produce products at the highest level hire his loser brother to build the no1 app that rules the product? I'll give you a hint: "He simply doesn't give a hoots ass!!!"Here's another nice example:
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Things will gradually get more interesting about 1 month up to two months from the 28th as we enter the Phase 3 rollout and everyone starts collecting their dividends. From then on it's nothing but high gears rolling.
Not necessarily so. You see, most of the Gulden hodlers will blindly put their stack in the witness program. They are the ones that have been choking up the cash to buy up the market that was sold by the miners. Once the witness program is active I guess they will relax a bit and start waiting for the dividends to come in. They will stop to partake in the active markets. The miners on the other hand will still cash out to cover their costs. Also, when BTC starts it's bull-run again, the holders Guldens will be stuck in the witness program. They will see the fiat value of their investment stay steady, while BTC investors have huge returns. Dispair will hit the heavily indoctrinated Gulden camp and all the lemmings will jump off the cliff as soon as the witness barrier is lifted. Respect for you I have, not your so called authority
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Smart marketing, this thread! Already way better then Gulden!
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I guess everything you tell us is allrdy told @ least 50 times before and all people that are in it now decided to stay in Gulden and do not sell despite of Rijk
I keep telling the truth here, because in the heavily moderated and censored world Rijk and his blind followers live in, there is no counterpart. This is the only platform that enables people, with deeper knowledge of the actual scam Rijk is pulling off here, to have a voice. So that's why I keep using this platform to educate others. If Gulden not succeed with Rijk, what you want, it is not only bad for Rijk but also for others like Jean Luc and me so you do not give shit about us also and that is the part i do not like about the whole story.
It's not that I don't want Gulden to succeed, I still have kept a large portion of my stack, so it's also in my interest that Gulden flourishes. The only part I can't allow is for people to be fooled by the blatant lies some of the Gulden zombies try to tell here. My guess is that more people have been fooled into losing money in the moderated world of Gulden, than people that have been chased away from Gulden based on warnings (and yes, also fud) on this platform. Again i agree with the most part of the things you say and i do not say you cannot say these things. The only difference between you and me is that i want Gulden to succeed despite of Rijk althought i rather see him leave today and you, because you hate Rijk that much, does not want Gulden to succeed. I am not saying i made a better choice but i know if Gulden not succeeds it will cost a lot of people with little income also a lot of money and maybe it does not cost Rijk that much because he may have cashed out allrdy?
Like I said, I think we agree on most things, also the wish that Gulden one day becomes as great as everyone hopes. That doesn't mean I have to allow the fraud that has been on display by Rijk and his buddies to be undisclosed. WE ARE THE RESISTANCE! Maybe something to think about?
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I know PoW2 part of the next update well enough but some explain to me why SegSig is far superior to SegWit which is also coming out next week.
I said it before, Gulden is developing the best Blueray system in the world, only to find out that by the time they release it, everyone switched to Netflix. In the fast pace the crypto world evolves, you don't have the luxury to insist only to release 100% perfect products. So the tactics of the current dev team will fail over and over. They want it to be ready when it's ready. Well If they produced the 2.0 release (with minor bugs) in December 2017 and made sure everyone knew, Gulden would be a top 20 coin by now. Now they will only remain hidden in the shadows of Segwit when they finally release next week. It's a shame, but in the end, you gulden zombies will learn to live with disappointment. Thx again for your positive view I guess you can't say that at this moment. Maybe after 28-06 but not now because no one knows what will happen then. I think you are right that it would have been better when they had released it in December but they didn't. You said you also have a good amount of Gulden so you are a zombie then too and as a fellow zombie you also want Gulden to be the best Blueray player but because you hate Rijk that much you have second thoughts I bought most of my Guldens below 100 sat at a time when BTC was trading below $ 500, also sold a good portion when it pumped above 12k sat, so I guess I’m good anyway. I’m just here to remind everyone of you who bought into Rijks scam that he in in no way interested in providing you with any form of profit. He cashed out Millions of your donated BTC already and doesn’t need Gulden anymore to have success. This release of 2.0 is planned exactly at the worst time possible. No promotion whatsoever. Why? Because he gives shit about all of you.
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I know PoW2 part of the next update well enough but some explain to me why SegSig is far superior to SegWit which is also coming out next week.
I said it before, Gulden is developing the best Blueray system in the world, only to find out that by the time they release it, everyone switched to Netflix. In the fast pace the crypto world evolves, you don't have the luxury to insist only to release 100% perfect products. So the tactics of the current dev team will fail over and over. They want it to be ready when it's ready. Well If they produced the 2.0 release (with minor bugs) in December 2017 and made sure everyone knew, Gulden would be a top 20 coin by now. Now they will only remain hidden in the shadows of Segwit when they finally release next week. It's a shame, but in the end, you gulden zombies will learn to live with disappointment.
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Just bringing the news. Some people don’t care if it’s decentralized or a bogus white paper, they just sell their souls to the devil anytime. 😈😂😉
I could make a smart remark here, but out of respect for your endless enthusiasm, I won't
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You missed the TCL.Gulden thing i guess. Witness without the fuzz of having to wait for the deposit period to end.
Nope, didn't miss it, I just don't like centralized stuff (being an advocate of decentralized currencies and all, you know):
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Come on Jean Luc, I like your enthusiasm, but this is a nothing burger! I can also pay with NLG at any bar in New York! Just have to sell them for BTC, load them up to my Breadwallet, change at a BTC ATM in the city and use the dollars to pay for my beer. Actually, the thing I described is easier than the TCL route!
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Biomike do you have a spare 2,5 BTC that you can and want to invest? Invest... in what exactly? Promises that will be ready when they are ready? I've put enough money into NLG in the past, but am still unable to pay with it at the local supermarket after how many years now? Why not ask Rijk? He has over 650BTC to invest. But guess what? He won't! Why? He spends that on salaries for himself, his brother and friends. Not that they do actual work, they hire an African mercenary for that. That's why updates take years in stead of months. It's just one guy doing the actual work, while Rijk and his squad are partying with fat paychecks paid from the dev fund.
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