Not "most of those miners aren't signalling yet" but "nobody is signaling and nobody can signal yet" because SegWit2x is not deployed on the Bitcoin network until July 21.

You gave vouches a lot of times and the people took it and ran? This is clearly a lie. It is your AWS account, it is you who give people access to the instances, it is you who can anytime remove their access or simply delete the instances, so if those people actually existed you could have simply told them "vouch for me or I delete the VPS". You are just lying and bullshitting, that's all.

The reality is that you repeat the same obvious lie (e.g.: "No Vouch Available Because A lot Of Members Take it and Never Review Or Reply !" etc.) in every your topic, no one ever vouched for you in any of your topics and nobody ever gave you one single trust feedback.

3 days later and yet not one single of all those people left a review nor gave you a trust feedback.

And yet none of those alleged "a lot of very satisfied customers" gave you any trust feedback whatsoever, not one single of them.

How can you even think for a split of second about any warranty whatsoever from an unknown totally anonymous person? That's just insane.

I don't think anybody here is going to pay $15000 to a newbie who just registered.

A credit card is a payment card that doesn't contain any money of the card holder but instead contains money loanded by the card provider. It is a type of a loan product where the provider opens a line of credit for the card holder, hence the name 'credit card'. No normal financial services provider will ever offer any loan to anyone anonymous, without knowing and verifying all necessary and legally required personal and financial details and even more importantly without having assured a proper collateral. Every non-retarded elementary school kid understands that. So if you don't then you are either retarded, a 5 year old, or simply you lie and try to scam people.

I gave you a chance to correct your mistakes and educate yourself on the subject in a rare case that you were just being ignorant and stupid and not a scammer, but instead of a sincere apology you had the audacity to attack me and by doing so you confirmed that you indeed are a scammer and knowingly and willfully lie in order to make this debit/prepaid card appear as a much more attractive credit card so that people would pay you for something that doesn't exist and you could steal their money. Now I gave you a negative feedback for trying to scam people and lying about what you are "offering" and I also added you to my list of scammers.

I strongly urge everyone to stay away from this scammer.

Of course this is not a credit card. Educate yourself on what a credit card actually is and stop lying.

What a great way to make stupid people publicly reveal their btc addresses, ownership, wallet software and other details. Excellent idea indeed. Big brother is surely very proud of you.

No, kiddo, showing a locally edited html file (dated 12.2.2016 at that!) is not a proof of anything except of your stupidity. Now get out of this forum, you little silly scamming boy.

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This was already very clearly mentioned here 4 months ago, including the github link to the real, free and open-source poloniex lending bot, so why are you bumping topic of this pathetic lowlife scammer? Everybody knows that this is an old non-functional version of the code that he has stolen from github, he is even that dumb to actually show pieces of the code and configuration, all which is identical (to the old version, now broken and obsolete, of the github code).

Why do you think this kid doesn't have one single feedback from anyone who allegedly bought this scam? Because nobody did buy it, people are not that stupid and this is indeed an extremely poorly executed scam attempt. Hopefully this boy is doing better in his elementary school classes than here otherwise once he grows up, in 10 or 15 years, he won't be able to get even a janitor job.

In case anybody still didn't know I added this little retarded scammer to my personal list of scammers.

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Fake feedback from an untrustworthy user with multiple negative feedbacks.


Another fake feedback from a newbie account created yesterday.

The OP does not have any trust feedback whatsoever except one single feedback from a newbie account that itself received exclusively negative feedback.

All "vouches" in this thread celebrating the OP and his alleged services are also only from newbie accounts.

Fake excuses by the OP: he "has no time to check", he inexplicably "can't show" the account limits etc.

Lies and bullshit, i.e. "i have already many feedbacks" while in fact he has no relevant feedback at all.

Stay away!

You are mixing apples and oranges. Those BCC/BCU tokens have nothing to do with any "funding" of their site or anything else. You give Bitfinex your BTC and they give you the same amount of BCC and BCU and on December 31 they will exchange your BCC back for BTC 1:1 and if there is a new currency (BTU) then they will also exchange your BCU for BTU 1:1, so there is no profit for them in all this. The fact that you can trade those BCC and BCU tokens again has nothing to do with Bitfinex because you don't trade with Bitfinex, you trade with other traders.

People here are questioning the point in trading BTU tokens because they think the fork will not happen but the BTU usability/profitability has nothing to do with fork happening or not happening, that's what I was trying to explain in my previous post. Maybe a simple example will help you understand. You give Bitfinex 10 BTC and they give you 10 BCC and 10 BCU. Right now the BCC value is around 82% of BTC, the BCU value is around 18% of BTC. So if you immediately sell those 10 BCU for BTC you will get 1.8 BTC and you can immediately withdraw it. Then on December 31 Bitfinex will give you 10 BTC back for your 10 BCC. You had 10 BTC in the beginning, you ended up with 11.8 BTC in the end, regardless of any fork, your profit is 18%, i.e. what you got for selling your BCU tokens. Or, you can take even shorter path: you have 10 BTC, you keep 1.8 BTC and with the remaining 8.2 BTC you will buy 10 BCC and again wait till the end of the year when Bitfinex gives you 10 BTC for them. How is it possible that somebody can't understand a first grade elementary school math is really beyond me.

Except the usual trading fees Bitfinex is not gaining nor losing anything by listing BCC/BCU tokens and allowing traders to trade them. If the fork happens then all pre-fork bitcoins will exist in both blockchains so for each BTC that Bitfinex held before the fork there will be 1 BTC and 1 BTU in their wallets. That's why they will be able to give you not only BTC back for your BCC but also BTU (currency) for your BCU (tokens). The only profit that you will get, i.e. 1.8 BTC in the above example, you will get from other traders who will buy your BCU or sell you their BCC, not from Bitfinex. Why would anybody give you 1.8 BTC for your 10 BCU? Because they think the fork will happen. If there is no fork then they were wrong and all their BCU will become void by December 31 and thus they lose their invested BTC, i.e. you are +1.8 BTC and they are -1.8 BTC. But if the fork does happen then on December 31 they will get the new BTU currency for their BCU tokens, which they bought for only 18%, so they will hold more than 5 times more BCU than how much they originally paid (you) in BTC, so to them this may seem like a really good risk/reward ratio deal actually. In this case your loss is the fact that you will only get 10 BTC back from Bitfinex for your original 10 BTC but you will get no BTU. If you didn't do this whole BCC/BCU deal then you would be holding 10 BTC and 10 BTU now, so those 10 missing BTU will be your loss, i.e. you are +1.8 BTC and -10 BTU and they are -1.8 BTC and +10 BTU. It's always a zero-sum game. Hope it makes finally sense.

I am not saying this is a good deal or a bad deal, that you should or shouldn't go for it, I am merely explaining what so many people here apparently didn't understand. To me 18% BTC profit in 8 months (plus possibly a 5 times bigger BTU loss) is maybe an ok deal (if I think the fork will not happen), or a very bad deal (if I think the fork will happen), but either way it's not a great deal because it's only 2.25% a month and I can definitely get more than that by lending. But if you are not lending and don't think the fork will happen and of course don't expect Bitfinex to turn into Gox v2.0 this year then this might be worth considering.

I would describe the situation like this:

It's not possible to withdraw USD from Bitfinex at the moment. That makes some people very nervous and therefore they are willing to trade their USD for BTC even if they have to pay some extra and then withdraw their BTC and get out of Bitfinex. This for some other people looks like an opportunity: they come to Bitfinex, bring their BTC and sell them for a very high USD price to the first group of people, not expecting another GOX happening and planning on waiting the momentary issues out and cashing a noticeable profit.

Risks aside, I personally don't think this is a very good strategy right now when the BTC is going up quite steeply because even if you sell your BTC there for USD at $100 above the usual rate your USD will be stuck there and while you are waiting you will not only miss other opportunities but the BTC may very well rise much higher than those extra $100 so in end, even if you are able to withdraw your USD eventually, you may not actually end up with a higher profit as if you never went there and kept trading anywhere else.

So it's not like everybody is running away from Bitfinex, more like shifting in the demographics of the users - the more careful are getting out and the more adventurous (and in my opinion not very smart) are coming in. But the overall judgment is the same what the others here are saying: better stay away.

Seems many people here didn't really understand what the Bitfinex BCC/BCU game is about. If you put your bitcoins there you will get the same amount of BCC plus the same amount of BCU. You can then immediately sell all those BCU for BTC, right now the price is 18%, and withdraw them. You will have to keep all your BCC there and on December 31 you will get your bitcoins back for them, 1:1. So you get all your bitcoins back plus an extra 18%. And this is regardless whether the fork will or will not happen.

If the fork happens then all your bitcoins recorded in pre-fork blocks will exist in both blockchains, i.e. all of a sudden you will own the same amount of BTU as you have BTC (that is, as long as you hold your private keys so that you can import them into the BTU wallet).

Now if Loaded says that he doesn't care for BTU then it makes perfect sense for him to take all those 60k-130k free BTU that will magically appear out of nowhere in his BTU wallet and sell them asap for BTC. It might seem a bit risky that he wants to make the deal so much in advance before anybody can possibly know what the actual value of BTC vs BTU will turn out to be, but given his strong sentiment it's understandable and after all he won't be losing any of his (and his clients') BTC anyway.

On the other hand, Roger Ver's behavior, who allegedly owns 300k BTC and thus may also out of a thin air become the owner of 300k BTU totally free of change, is not that clear. Why would he even bother thinking about changing his 300k BTC + 300k BTU into 240k BTC + 360 BTU? It's merely a 20% shift. It seems more likely that the kid (a convicted felon who has been to federal prison, btw) either doesn't know how fork actually works or he doesn't own his private keys. Either way, an amusing example of self-ridicule.