Good bullish momentum They had to try something, didn’t they?? El duderino’s eyes where off the charts and focussed on 3* Michelin ‘t Zilte Cheers  HODLer Mondays….. Fine dining in Antwerp even on a Monday evening. Enjoy! |
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Why are the numbers 3 , 6 , 9 Worth more than the whole System of Value ? Why is 3 Imprinted into Creation ?
All becomes clear now and why you are asking for exactly 3 BTC And your comments about energy. Tesla's obsession with 3 and unlimited free energy come to mind. BTW hope your procedure went well and you are recovering OK. |
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Amazon denies it will accept Bitcoin only exploring crypto. It was just FUD.  Perhaps the good Mr. Bezos will run a node in space, and adopt Bitcoin as the currency of space. Some sort of universal currency will be required, for those air and water top ups and the latest Kindle novel for bored astronauts. |
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$40k
$40032 (Stamp) to be exact.
*$40370
Something big is about to happen... I feel it in my duodenum. Visit the bathroom real quick then, probably those spicy wings for lunch. |
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Bad advice for hodlers (or patient traders)  If they didn't bought at $29k, they don't deserve at $38k. That's what I meant. Not sure how it's bad. Any time is perfect time to buy bitcoin. Buy now thank me later (November - December 2021)  I agree. I used to agonize whether to buy at $68 $70 or wait for $64. Same again in the $300s In the long term it makes no difference, just buy when you have spare fiat, it does not always coincide with a dip. I just bought BTC 0.25 at $31.5k before the $32k window closed, I was wrong about the window closing that day so bought another BTC 0.25 at $29.6k. That's me out of fiat for months now. BillyCoiner still waiting for $8k $10k $20k. Poor Billy Nocoiner. |
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I am not sure I can teach you the whole concept of thermodynamics in a reasonable amount of time in this thread.
That's fine. I believe my o-level and a-level teachers and the lecturers that contributed to my physics degree have you covered. Then why ask? And I am not particularly impressed with degrees bragged about on a internet forum to be honest. All I am getting from quite a few of you is that you just want to argue. I am done at this point. Zero sum game. ------ Good night. ... nobody is getting argumentative except you, when you got called on the bogus "earth is a closed system" claim ... probably the original sin of that quasi-religious pseudo-science know as "climate science" Its all good...I dont want to be more of a dick than I already have. Fuck the maths of it all and just go outside and look around...really look. Things are changing...things have changed just in my lifetime. I have seen it with mine own eye. How many species have gone extinct the last 100 years...how many tons of toxic waste has been dumped into land fills and our oceans? How many extreme weather events happened over the last 20 years? How many glaciers have melted affecting water supply..how much have the polar caps melted affecting the jet streams? Putting a stick in a pot and stirring things around and expecting no noticeable effects is ludicrous in my opinion. My whole point was that I think we can do better. Plain and simple.
... and here you've engaged in another of the green marxism misinformation tactics, conflating many different pollution problems, some real, some ill-perceived anecodotes, into a mish-mash of "the earth is ending, zomg!" to justify some crazy idea that shutting down C02, CH4 emissions will 'cool' the warming 'earth' ... a) it's not proven it is even warming particularly that much recently or b) that it is due to increases in "greenhouses gases" and by how much and by which percentage of the gases that are anthropogenic. ... Earth has always had extreme weather events, statistically the last 20 years are not particularly unusual in the recorded history, which is exceedingly short, and the geologic record suggests there have been far greater extremes in weather ... the meteor that hit the Yucatan penisula and wiped out the dinosaurs sent a tidal wave 1500m high! into the south coast of the USA and sent up a plume of debris into the atmosphere that blocked out sunlight for 10 years ... want to explain how relatively dangerous humans are to the earth's closed system is again? So the earth is supposedly 1.2C above per-industrial temperatures, no date is ever given for the end of the pre-industrial era. Lets assume it was 1750. Dutch Inventor Fahrenheit had developed a fairly accurate mercury thermometer by this date. While the two fixed points of calibration, freezing and boiling point were assumed to be accurate the points between these two were merely interpolated. These early capillary tubes varied in diameter throughout their length and affected accuracy, a variation of a few degrees was certainly possible. No standard method of recording air temperatures was in place for another 100 years into the industrial revolution, when Thomas Stevenson in 1864 developed his Stevenson's screen which standardized how temps were measured. In a slatted white box 4 to 6 feet above ground level. Whilst with modern technology and satellite surveillance, earths average temperatures can be published with certain accuracy, those of pre industrial times cannot. There is insufficient and accurate enough data to do so and to publish as fact the figure of a 1.2C difference is disingenuous. |
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Good old boy Jason C.(unt) Of course you can still contract Covid plus die from it, while also being able transmit it even after getting your shots. But you will far less likely to be admitted to hospital due to severity of symptoms and extremely unlikely to die as a result of infection. Like Active servicemen wearing body armor are less likely to receive fatal injury if hit by a round. It's up to each individual to weigh up their personal risk. (of side effects from vaccine and covid) My daughter who spent 8 days in hospital with this disease still has some severe problems 6 months on, scarring of lungs and kidney damage. Most people deal with the infection as a mild illness or even have zero symptoms, but if you are unlucky and your immune system causes massive inflammation in reaction to Covid you will be very ill. The problem is that you cannot tell in advance if your body will be react badly to Covid or indeed the vaccine. 5g towers will still get you if you wear a tin foil hat! :-P meh Ditch the tin foil - aluminum foil is the way to go. Stops the voices too! |
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This is crazy absolutely nuts  Maybe some people never seen a microwave over or what 2.4 GHz can do. Have device close to brain on left and right side is absolutly nuts Ok so I presume you don't drive a car but ride a horse instead? You don't watch TV or listen to the radio because these devices emit harmful radiation? Internet is also dangerous because your wifi is frying your brain while you're typing this message? Don't forget about your phone and it's harmful GSM and 4G waves. Not even mentioning your house made of harmful concrete, fillers and plaster? Clothes, food etc etc etc The OP should be more worried about sunlight esp UV radiation or high energy particles from deep space passing through them. Or naturally occurring radon gas that collects in many peoples homes. |
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The Author of the gibberish Robert A. Manning has his agenda. In this case his remit is to trash cryptocurrencies in any old way with zero original thought. His agenda in this instance - climate change - because he read (a load of crap) somewhere, without doing any of his own research on the subject. If you care you can read up his well documented bio. Now a has been writing articles for a few hundred bucks for downmarket publications. |
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Good old boy Jason C.(unt) Of course you can still contract Covid plus die from it, while also being able transmit it even after getting your shots. But you will far less likely to be admitted to hospital due to severity of symptoms and extremely unlikely to die as a result of infection. Like Active servicemen wearing body armor are less likely to receive fatal injury if hit by a round. It's up to each individual to weigh up their personal risk. (of side effects from vaccine and covid) My daughter who spent 8 days in hospital with this disease still has some severe problems 6 months on, scarring of lungs and kidney damage. Most people deal with the infection as a mild illness or even have zero symptoms, but if you are unlucky and your immune system causes massive inflammation in reaction to Covid you will be very ill. The problem is that you cannot tell in advance if your body will be react badly to Covid or indeed the vaccine. |
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I posted a week ago here, eXPHorizon begging for BTC on Reddit. He and his poor mum, need it. He promises to pay it back, when he is rich.
Sob stories do not work. The world is full of them. A crap job will get the median wage $50k per year, if you have any skill, I believe eXPHorizon can code, will fetch USA average of around $90k per year ie 3 BTC I guess he could save $90k over 3 years by being careful. Or outline his business plan here which he says will make him rich, never know some Angel Investors might be tuned in. The sad guess is a genuinely good guy is down on his luck and 3 BTC will set up a dealership to fund his habit. Until all that is gone too. |
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I see on my phone that my uncle "read" my texts from yesterday (about a few hours after I sent them), but I still have not heard from him.
I have been thinking of possible variations of the bet too.. in order that the bet might keep running, so maybe we figure out an amount that is comfortable, but we keep the bet running for something like 5 years, and at the end of each calendar year we measure to see where we are at in terms of comparing bitcoin to the DJI... ...
So maybe we start with $5 or even $50 at the end of 2021, and then each year we multiply the bet (but we continue to use the beginning of 2021 as our starting reference point for the price (percentage) to beat), which is showing our long term conviction starting from a base point (which I feel that would be my giving him a ~30% headstart, too.. and I do not have a problem with that)...
So maybe the bet doubles or triples each year, so it would look like either the 2x, 3x, 5x or perhaps some other multiple and sure the below examples show starting from $5 but maybe add a zero (which would be starting from $50) or use some other starting number ($1, $20, $100 or whatever) to customize the starting point and the multiples to individual "friendly" finances while creating a kind of magnification that emphasizes an importance in thinking about the longer term rather than getting all worked up about short-term nonsense, when in fact my uncle and I are both considering our lil selfies as long term investors, but for some reason, yesterday he seemed to have been putting so much emphasis in short-term nonsense just to make his comparative point and supposedly that his investment in stocks was "beating" bitcoin (at least from his way of framing the matter).
2x 3x 5x xxx
End of 2021 $5 $5 $5 $5 (or some other amount)
End of 2022 $10 $15 $25 $xxx
End of 2023 $20 $45 $125 $xxx
End of 2024 $40 $135 $625 $xxx
End of 2025 $80 $405 $3,125 $xxx
The whole matter of betting or putting a bit of stake behind assertions can still be friendly.. but putting some money where your mouth is can be helpful to showing true conviction, and of course, if the bet amounts are high, there there could be some reason to make sure that any of us would save for the event that we might lose the bet.. and no one of us should be putting all our eggs in one basket, even if we may well be willing to bet in accordance with one direction or another turning out in our favor.
I do not know your uncle but I have found that when it comes to putting their money where their mouth is people do not do it. I doubt he is going to take the $5 bet and will probably shrug it off saying that would be silly. If you were to follow the structure you have outlined above you would probably bankrupt your uncle swiftly  I am probably as bullish as you could find with Bitcoin but I agree with your point of not putting all your eggs in one basket. I have tried to invest in various different outlets and not just Bitcoin and no I am not talking about shitcoins. I'm talking about stocks and Bitcoin but Bitcoin has for a fact been the money maker if we look at the profit over the years. I have not taken my investment out of Bitcoin yet but if I did I would be up more than 500% and I definitely cannot say the same for the stocks that I have invested in. Around mid-day yesterday (maybe a couple of hours after your above post, Saidasun), my uncle did acknowledge that he read my earlier texts to him regarding my bet proposals, and he texted me back and said that he just does not like texting back and forth, so he would prefer to meet to discuss. I sent him a text saying that I will meet whenever he wants. I was working on a draft text to send my uncle.. but I just cannot bring myself to send it… I suppose that I just do not want to be pushing things (especially when he seems reluctant to respond to text messages) or seeming to be gloating about bitcoin’s to date performance as compared with gold and stock index funds – which should be obvious.. but since I drafted the text (and have not yet sent it to my uncle), I will present the draft here in this thread (and therefore it does not go totally wasted).. Also, I might reconsider and later decide to send some variation of it or to share the information with him in some other form, but I have it in a draft form, at least. Here it is: >>>>>>>>>>> The evidence is just overwhelmingly convincing that BTC has outperformed both gold and the stock market (referring to index funds), and sure of course, the longer the timeline for investing the more evident it is that BTC has outperformed both of those asset classes. Furthermore, there is no real evidence or knowledge based convincing logic that the trend is stopping, and really the investment thesis is stronger for bitcoin today than it was in 2014 or 2016 – even though the price is 78x and 40x higher respectively. Let’s take those two timelines as examples. First is if you had bought $25 per week of bitcoin starting in our late 2016 conversation on the topic, which is 5 years. Your bitcoin investment would have been $6,525, the value of your bitcoin would be about $70k (about 2.1 BTC accumulated), and the percentage of increase would have been around 10x. In that same period, Gold and stock index funds would have only been $8,432 (up 29.23%) and $9,255 (up 41.84%) respectively. Here’s a link to that information. https://dcabtc.com?sd=2016-07-20&sda=5_years&f=weekly&d=5_years&ac=1000&c=true Another timeline would be if you had bought $25 per week of bitcoin starting from when I first sent you $10 worth of bitcoin in late 2014, which is 5 years. Your bitcoin investment would have been $9,150, the value of your bitcoin would be about $325k (a bit more than 10 BTC accumulated), and the percentage of increase would have been around 34.5x. In that same period, Gold and stock index funds would have only been $12,352 (up 35%) and $14,491 (up 58.38%) respectively. Here’s a link to that information. https://dcabtc.com?sd=2014-07-20&sda=7_years&f=weekly&d=7_years&ac=2500&c=true Either way, investing in bitcoin has been a great investment and there is nothing saying that the party is over. Bitcoin has and will likely continue to outperform any stock index fund or gold in the coming 4 years or more.. and probably any other hard or soft asset in your investment portfolio.<<<<<<<<<<<<<, Send it as is. As your uncle is already invested in the stock market and owns gold he will appreciate the effort you have put in to provide factual evidence in the case for Bitcoin. As an investor and not just someone who parks their savings in the bank he will also be used to measuring risk reward. It is difficult when your family are involved, there was someone posted a few months back quite near the ATH that he was pleased he'd got his parents to buy some BTC. It could easily cause a falling out if they panic sold and lost 50% of their purchase price. All generations in my family are coiners, encouraged by initial gifts to them of paper wallets containing 0.5 BTC about $150 at the time. |
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I am new to the wall observer thread and I thought of something that could be fun as an introduction. You guys can decide when I next sell my Bitcoin. I will be reinvesting do not worry! Give me a number at which I should sell at and I will then reinvest when the next dip comes.
Sell ASAP.. (so around our current price of $29,750 or maybe $29,800, if you can get it) and reinvest around $19,666.. that was the high for the last period (would have been December 2017).. For sure, 99.5% guaranteed, we are going below $19,666, but just to be safe and not too greedy, buy back at $19,666. This is investment advice. took the words right out of my mouth. The usual deal though is to sell then buy back higher. |
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CME Very possible to Hit earth in 2022-24... Helpo while its possible ? I need 3 BTC You mean you want 3 BTC you don't need 3 BTC. You seem to have survived the last couple of months without those 3 BTC since you last were here asking for them. |
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Does anyone know why GBTC FUD did not affect the price? I was waiting with a little cash but there was no drop in the price.  my last time I bought it was around 29500 and it went up an hour later to around 34,000, it was perfect timing. And buying with $700. I don't know I'm ready if the price continues to go down although I think that unless something big happens during this week, the bottom for the end of the year will be 27K. Next levels: 700$ ----- 28k 1200$ ---- 27k 800$ ----- 26k 1000$ --- 25k and enough. We don't know where the bottom will be, but if there is one certainty in life it is that the central banks will always print and the governments will always do fiscal spending packages. Therefore eventually the price will go up (along with every other asset known to man). The only thing we/you have to be sure of is "can I hold, without selling forever if need be?" if your answer is yes, everything will be good. As I mentioned above bitcoin price rises have a lot to do with increasing supply of fiat currency. And the monetary system requires ever increasing amounts of fiat, It's just how it was designed. Increasing fiat supply is therefore guaranteed. If it doesn't we end up with a Soviet style collapse. The CBs and Govs are never going to let that happen. So brrrrrrr. Bitcoin is a long term savings vehicle, treat it as one rather than as an investment. It is both my savings and deposit account, spare fiat goes here. I fund my bigger purchases with cheap interest loans or use the great deals available on lease, rather than dipping into BTC wallet. Only spending BTC if there is no other choice. I recently added some BTC at $31.5k and will add more now at $29.5k, these are the most expensive coin I've ever bought. |
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Well, my bitcoins are now worth less then they were six months ago, and yet I'm not particularly worried, why?
Because the 60K top does not look like a proper blow of top, it didn't go up sharp enough, it plateaued on 60ish K for a while and it didn't have a dead cat bounce, hence it wasn't a real super top.
Just my 25 öre.
I'm weeping into my milk at the current price. Only 450X up on my original coins..which I still have. And 2X on the most recent. Disappointed with Billy nocoins investment advice and sure prediction of 30k the other day. Have fiat ready to go for such an opportunity (along with millions of others). May have to content myself with a purchase mid 31k before that window closes. Looking back 64k will have been that little bulge on the charts that signals the start of the proper run up to the top of a cycle, which this one has not yet completed. In the whole history of Bitcoin the situation has never looked so good. I suppose officially (or would that be "technically"?) it is more accurate to divide your coins in terms of each time that you bought some and then you would have an open and a close for when you sold them (if you did). Sometimes I do not necessarily want to go into that level of detail in regards to what my own situation and systems of classification are, and technically the lowest amount that I have ever bought any BTC is at $182 in January 2015, and likely I bought a relatively low quantity of BTC at that particular price because, I had been buying all the way down from $1,201 in November 2013, and yes you might proclaim that BTC had never gotten all the way up to $1,201 in November 2013, but it did for me when I met someone to make a direct transaction at the outside metal chairs outside of a grocery shopping location... Yes, the official BTC price on Bitstamp peaked out at $1,163 for that particular part of the cycle. So, gosh, I did buy the vast majority of my BTC stash in through out that year (of 2014), and looking back seeing my cashflow kind of steadily being available, but also having some lump sum periods of availability of funds during that time that got channeled into bitcoin.. and so yes, I suppose that I was behaving with some level of irresponsibility in terms of having some target ideas in my head about BTC accumulation levels that I wanted to reach, but a lot of that is a kind of fog in my memory - absent looking back at some of the transactions and considering whether I might have been aggressive enough given my whole financial situation... and geez it looks like a lot of coins (relatively speaking about getting to 0.21 BTC and all that) were acquired in the $500 to $700 range because I was kind of considering the drop from the lower 4 digits and into the mid-ish 3 digits was such a "great deal".. and the fact that my average cost per BTC was about $560-ish by the end of 2014, did not really feel bad at all, even if the price still went down and then ended up staying down for the vast majority of 2015 - so like largely in the a bit lower than 50% off of my average cost per BTC range. So, great deals in the mid-3 digits were not really seeming like great deals until many years later.. and sure of course, there might be some ways of considering the whole matter in such a way that maybe it does not matter so much whether I might have been able to achieve 450x returns or merely just 30x-ish --- which is kind of easy to calculate - even while generally outlining that "bitcoin has been berry berry good to me.".. but take current BTC prices (at $31,500-ish), for example, I still remain inclined to generally refer to my situation as either 31.5x-ish (not sure if it is just easier to calculate in that way), even though I might sometimes want to proclaim a higher number such as 42x in profits.. and maybe it depends on the general point that I am wanting to make, and neither of the numbers is really untrue.. it's just a kind of short hand attempt to make some points... .. And, so for sure, if part of the point is to show - "how the fuck could I really be bothered with some of my coins at a mere 450x in profits versus their 927x peak profits in mid April? Is there any real and/or meaningful difference in that level of profits, so if I get back to my lowest purchase of $182, then I could proclaim that lowest purchase of coins ever to currently be about a measly 175x profits, but at one point, it had a profit level of a wee bit more than 356x... .. Either way, I suppose depending on the point (emphasis) being attempted to be made. Eloquently put. The point of the post was probably aimed more at Billy nocoins to show that a drop to any particular price really does not matter to those here in it for the long haul. 450X was just the rough number of $ increase in value of my $68 coins at present time. There have been so many crashes since I bought my first coins that had I capitulated at any of those points along the way I would not be in the comfortable position I am with Bitcoin right now. Arriemoller is not particularly worried with 50% drop and I'm not at all worried. I also agree with Arriemoller this cycle top has not been reached. I'm always bullish, I remember daring to think 1BTC would one day buy 1oz gold, wow Bitcoin would have become of age. And it hit that in Nov 13, at the time when you made your $1201 p2p transaction. Then recently 1BTC equals the price of 1 Kg gold. I look forward to when 1BTC will buy a 12.5kg 440oz good delivery bar currently $728k after a few more cycles. A BTC wallet is my deposit and savings account, the best I've ever had. |
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I assume this is fake as far as "proof of destruction" goes, but you never really know with China.  A bit like when a big burn up of tons of captured illegal drugs is staged for the press cameras. While the majority of the haul is quietly moved to the markets or sold back to the cartel. |
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Well, my bitcoins are now worth less then they were six months ago, and yet I'm not particularly worried, why?
Because the 60K top does not look like a proper blow of top, it didn't go up sharp enough, it plateaued on 60ish K for a while and it didn't have a dead cat bounce, hence it wasn't a real super top.
Just my 25 öre.
I'm weeping into my milk at the current price. Only 450X up on my original coins..which I still have. And 2X on the most recent. Disappointed with Billy nocoins investment advice and sure prediction of 30k the other day. Have fiat ready to go for such an opportunity (along with millions of others). May have to content myself with a purchase mid 31k before that window closes. Looking back 64k will have been that little bulge on the charts that signals the start of the proper run up to the top of a cycle, which this one has not yet completed. In the whole history of Bitcoin the situation has never looked so good. |
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Beanie Baby Bitcoin going full tulips in the coming 18 months. Anybody still hodling or did you take Billy’s advice & dump those bags? The only use for your digital tokens is pedophile material & drugs online. Don’t get left holding your bags. Bitcoin going to $0.
weeeeeee
You lost me at 'tulips' gembitz ShittyCoiner. EDIT: Willing to bet if 20k or 40k comes first? It was the irresistible urge to end the post with weeeeeeee that was the troll's giveaway. |
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