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1801  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Girl was Gang-Raped at School While Teachers Ignored It on: February 23, 2016, 09:12:50 AM
The guys who did this should be punished. If they are not punished, they will not be stopped from this bad habbit.


They won't ! In France, do you know what ? Counterfaiting money, so printing fucking worthless paper, is a lot more severarily punished than raping ! Money against humans, choice is quickly done for all those bastards that are at the head of State and everything which is related to power.

This has nothing to do. If you counterfait money you harm the national economic hence you touch the whole population. If you rape someone you harm just one person.
But counterfaiting 5 000€ euros won't be a longer jailtime than raping someone, it's all about balance.

Breaking one's virginity at a least intimity is a lot worst than printing a fucking paper ! To harm your economy, you would have to print at least 100 000 000€, because this has to be divided by the high number of euro countriesto know the impact on each country.



Don't blame the teacher ! You should rather blame the government who let those animals enter in the former Great Austria Angry !

Damn, before readin that I really thought you were an interesting person :-/

Sorry to break your dreams Cheesy ! I'm not a pub racist, and I can explain you my statement if you want me to do so.

Well it would be interesting but I doubt you have any convincing argument ^^

Well. First, I'll need to know something about you before a further explanation. Do you believe that the human gender can be split among races ?

For the counterfait part: that's why printing 5k€ will be less punished that raping a 16 years old girl. Far less punished.

For your second question: This has nothing to do with faith or belief or whatever. Definition of the word race: Each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics
So yes it can. It's the definition of the word race.

Then congratulation ! I can speak with you Smiley ! So there's different races. One is not especially superior to another, this depend from what you classify as "superior" and won't be discussed here. So you have several races. Where is the natural place for an African ? African, right, or he would be called African ?

Then take a metaphore of a man. He has a black friend that live in Nigeria and escape from war. That's good for the man to take care of him at his house. Now imagine that his sons rape the man's girl. What would any sensed man do ? Chasing him. Instead, what did the German women after the Cologne events, they apologiesed because they were racist by saying they were migrants, and because they should be alone and weared like that in the streets.

If you let a baby in a circus with an hungry lion in a cage, then who do you blame ? The lion, or the guy who opened the door ?

Then, don't you think that each people should fit in where he does come from ? Integrating to much black people will kill the diversity and will make us all look the same. Oh yes ! That's what the global money government want Roll Eyes...

Wow wow wow...
Well at least you didn't talk about racial superiority. That's one good point I guess xD

List of why you're totally wrong:
-Human main goal is to get rid of natural necessities. It means that with current technology, genetic adaptation to one's environment is irrelevant.
-Your metaphore is totally flawed. To make it good, you'd have to say that the European man owns a 5billions domain in which he lives alone, that this domain was paid in great part thanks to what he did into the African country, that he destroyed and poverished the stranger country and earns money from the war. Then the whole population being chased in an poor and unstable country, they flee and the European man being ashamed of himself, welcomes 1000 persons in his domain. On the 1000 persons, one rape a daughter. Better this way.
-Integrated black people won't kill diversity, mixing people together is what increases diversity!!!

Our Europeanism is our legacy. We're Christian, white, and proud of us (except the German). Why would we sacrify our identity ?

From which continent do you come from ? North America, Europe, Middle East or Russia ? That's the only places where there is a difference. In Africa, everyone is black, has black hair, black eye... In Europe, you have an incredible diversity. Blue, Green, Brown, Redhair, Blond hair, Brown hair, straight, roman nose, greek nose, dinaric nose... Someone which descent from an African, will be totally darkished. He will be what's worst, a cross-racial. He's not really at his home in Europe nor in Africa. A sheep born in a stable won't be an horse ! I have no problem with the black people if they stay in their own country. Also, I have no problem with refugees if they stay refugees. That mean that once the war is finished they go back to their home. However, this isn't the way they intend it Undecided...

The Europe doesn't even give a home to the homeless people, and they welcome some people that come here only for the money...

Wow, so much stupidity burns my eyes.
I'll be clear, what you're saying is dumb as fuck. First you compare white/black to horse/sheep. Those aren't the same species, of course they're incredibly different! But black and whites would be like Mérinos and Katahdin, two races of sheep. And both feel at home in their stable!
1802  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2016, 09:08:42 AM
Ouch!
That was a heavy dump!
Finex and stamp had been down to 416! Shocked

Yeah heavy and unexpected!

I just closed a short because the price wouldn't drop Cry
I just closed a short at loss then open a long right before the bump ><

I feel like the dumb guy paying for everyone else ><
1803  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity. on: February 23, 2016, 09:06:32 AM
Dude, that's a complete scam and every other site like that it's a sure way to lose money, sooner or later, I would say sooner. If you want to get some interest out of your BTC stash I suggest lending it on Poloniex. I know having money on exchanges is not advisable but daily traders have to do it all the time. They are very reliable but I know, all exchanges are reliable until they are not.

Do you earn a decent amount with poloniex lending?
1804  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 09:04:33 AM
I don't think gays should be parading their homosexuality in the streets for my children to watch and be indoctrinated with. I don't think anyone should parade anything and force their views on anyone. Including what you're doing now.

A Christian who doesn't want to force his beliefs on anyone?  That's new

Well most of them are rather quiet let's be honest Wink
1805  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pictures from Russia. NSFW!!! on: February 22, 2016, 11:11:41 PM


Love this one!
1806  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 22, 2016, 02:35:50 PM
No I agree with him here. Men and women are different and have different roles.

Just natural selection. A woman taking care of her man and her children will have more chance to have lots of children and thus her genes will be passed upon next generation. it's just bare natural selection.

Doesn't mean they have to stay home of course ^^
But they're not the one who shall take and bare the risks in a couple for example, and that won't change IMHO

We are biologically different, yes.  As a result we play different roles in procreation.

Roles (take care or children, smoke cigars, hunt, wage wars) he is talking about are assigned by culture and religion.  There are no inherent, innate roles that women must follow.  Roles are imposed by men with guns.  

I have male friends who take care of their children while their women chase the next research grant for their hospitals.  My wife takes care of our children, not because that is her "assigned by God" role, but because he is better that task.  I suck at it.  I can barely take care of myself.

You are going to refuse women framers to frame your house just because they are women?  Or operate on you just because they are women? Women can kill and process deer as well as a men.  I have personally met such women.  

If you ask, who is more predisposed to do the killing, then yes there is strong evidence that men have been more willing to kill other animals (including humans).  Women tend to value life more.


Wow wow wow calm down not what I said ^^
Just that biology is here: one man can fertilize 10 women, not the contrary. It means women are more precious than men. It means they will naturally take less risk.
It means they'll do less dangerous jobs, less stressful jobs, less army and things like that.

But it's a statistical view. It doesn't mean they can't, just that I'm sure, on a statistical average, they'll do less risky and dangerous things. That's all.
1807  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Apple or the FBI… whose side are you on in the iPhone privacy battle? on: February 22, 2016, 02:30:33 PM
This is a strange situation to my opinion. Private data protection is not so important in USA, like is in Europe, in some areas private data protection has no value at all, but suddenly Aple is so worried about privacy of their users. I'm not taking any side just want to say how perspective can change depending on interests.

Yeah that's right! It's strange that it makes such a debate in the USA!
Most of the time they don't care about privacy!
They invented Fb after all xD
1808  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 22, 2016, 02:28:26 PM
Why would you even have to ask?  What makes you think we "suppose to have different roles"?  Roles defined in the Bible perhaps (written by men).

Who cares?  Women are more important than men from a specie survival perspective.  You just need few men to produce enough sperm for thousands of women.  Women produce offspring.  What do men do?

Invent religions and start wars?

Different physical and biological characteristics used to make people think "we suppose to have different roles". Quite rightly by the way. Of course some of these roles are "outdated" today but in many cases one sex is still better suited for a given task than the other (same thing applies to gender as well).

With too few man we would have too little genetic diversity for a while.

Well after maybe in 1 000 years we'll have nearly one gender, both sex having mixed together!

But right now we still have strong biological differencies for sure!
1809  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Girl was Gang-Raped at School While Teachers Ignored It on: February 22, 2016, 02:25:09 PM

They can walk away without jail time, but not free.
They get sent in reform schools, which are not exactly heavens... It's rather similar to military training! So can't really say he just "walked away freely".

Of course far from heaven, but the lads there are also far from being angels Smiley. So it's a good fit. BTW reform schools are not really places of punishment but places of education, therefore places of prevention.

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And damn, you not gonna send a 13 years old boy to jail no?

I would. ...and most of the world just doing that. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_infancy#Ages_of_criminal_responsibility_by_country)
Well, maybe you would but I wouldn't live in the same country than you if I can avoid it then ^^

13 years old are not responsible for their actions for damn sake!
1810  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: February 22, 2016, 02:20:59 PM
My opinion about gun control is the policemen and military men should only the one to carry guns with permission of law. Since they are using it to protect people and if someone will use for judicial killings the government can easily track the people with guns.

I completely agree. I think that "ordinary" people who are carrying guns could be as much dangerous on the streets as the criminals are and this is not an meassure that can improve their security. Security is very complex issue and by allowing everyone to carry guns just won't do anything to improve it.

Agreed too.
But people advocating gun freedom talk about the case of a dictatorship and a point where police and military are no longer protecting people...
We should have some emergency stocks for the people, in case of dictatorship "break the glass" ^^
1811  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Apple or the FBI… whose side are you on in the iPhone privacy battle? on: February 22, 2016, 02:14:03 PM
To all people with short term memory, please try to recollect the name 'Snowden' and the revelations of Snowden about companies like Google or Apple or Facebook.

I think this is a PR stunt.

If Tim Cook really care about privacy, maybe he shouldn't collect too many userdata. The same for Google. Maybe stop reading emails for starters.

Snowden is about the NSA, the US government. I'm sure that in the terms of use of Apple, this is mentionned somewhere that they will collect your data, but you never signed any contract with the NSA...

Snowden have said many times that companies like Apple and Facebook and Google and major ISPs do work with NSA. NSA or FBI, both are government.

So this confirm what I said numerous times before : everything which relates to the United States is bad, is devil and must be avoided at any cost.

Of course. USA is one of the worst country in the world and they invaded the whole Europe, South America and Africa. Only Russia and China can resist them :-/
1812  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: February 22, 2016, 02:12:38 PM

Gun control in a nutshell.

Ahah! xD

Well shot. But not IMHO.
You gotta have both. Where is your limit is what defines my position. For me gun control isn't that far, but the emergency state we currently are in to "prevent terrorism" and other useless shit of defending against something not important are indeed in this case.
1813  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 22, 2016, 02:10:59 PM
Is it about laziness?
If atheism is a religion, could laziness be one as well?
BAD Decker - you have the floor. Hit it.

If laziness is a religion then I can become an adept xD

Anyway none of the dumbasses here have ever answered to the original questions. They still never explained why the Earth is flat and square in the Bible...

Or why God thinks the sky is blue because it is made of water... (Genesis chapter 1, day 2)

Ahah, didn't know that. It's a good way to end any logical discussion xD

"God separated the waters above (sky) the firmament (land), from the waters below (oceans) the firmament"

From what are made clouds Roll Eyes ? Also, there is some water in every bit of air, so I don't think that this statement is false (you see, I don't come and just say : "that's in the Bible so that's true !" Wink).

So he made the space from water? Damn it's a shame space is empty nah? ^^

Why do you say that space is empty ? Also, why do you just mention the space. We're talking about the Earth's sky, everything what is above the land and under the ozone.

Because God calls the waters of the sky, "heaven"... ... that's not air, that's a bit higher up, right?...

Actually, Where is heaven?  We've looked up... it's not there... we searched the entire universe and cant seem to find this heaven anywhere...

In the early days of Christianity, heaven simply meant the sky... but... heaven is definitely not in the sky... its not floating on clouds, etc

There's some things that the humans can't see, and Heaven is one of them. That's like the souls of damned people which are blocked on Earth.

Ok so it exists but we can't see or feel it?
Same goes for the soul?

Yes, that's part of another world, God's kingdom, where the men who followed a good life go. It's everwhere but it's nowhere at the same time.

Practical.
But why wasn't it written in the Bible?

That come from the common sense. This is like "women aren't equal to men". Everyone should know that if they were correctly educated.


Ahahah xD

Just hope it's humour. If it is, it's damn funny! If it is not... Well shame on your education but it's still funny xD

That's half humour. When I meant not equel, I meant that they don't have the same role. Would you look a women that pass all her days in the pub, that smoke big cigars, that live alone in the woods and that hunt as a normal woman ? I doubt it, and that's a part of the humanity to know what task involve to whom.

Why would you even have to ask?  What makes you think we "suppose to have different roles"?  Roles defined in the Bible perhaps (written by men).

Who cares?  Women are more important than men from a specie survival perspective.  You just need few men to produce enough sperm for thousands of women.  Women produce offspring.  What do men do?

Invent religions and start wars?



No I agree with him here. Men and women are different and have different roles.

Just natural selection. A woman taking care of her man and her children will have more chance to have lots of children and thus her genes will be passed upon next generation. it's just bare natural selection.

Doesn't mean they have to stay home of course ^^
But they're not the one who shall take and bare the risks in a couple for example, and that won't change IMHO
1814  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 22, 2016, 12:58:05 AM

Didn't I say something about measuring all the particles and energies? Ah, yes, I did. But I also meant measuring their every relationship to each other. If you attempt to do this, you will find that the energies, the particles, their conversions molecularly, their relational positions, inside the conversion process, are way more complex than the end result that they produce.

Attempts to make measurements like this have been attempted for years using microcalorimetric functions. But it still is way beyond our reach because of the complexity involved.

Cool

This is an unfalsifiable hypothesis. There is no way to test it, because you state that this concept of complexity is (as yet) unmeasurable. Unless you meant the "calorific measurements"? Measurement of heat is not measurement of complexity.

Do you have any other suggested measures of complexity that actually *do* exist?

Which is more complex, ice or water?



Measuring heat vibrations and how they react on individual sub-atomic particles in their relationships with each other is a complexity beyond understanding at present. This unmeasurable complexity is what produces the result.

Cool

So you're not sure if ice or water is more complex? Then how can you say that some level of complexity is only a result of something more complex?

Here's how. Since entropy pervades everything, ultimately everything that is made out of something else is at least slightly less complex than the thing that made it, due to entropy.

Are you trying to go for a swim inside ice, or what Huh

Cool


If you don't know which is more complex in that case, how can you be certain which is more complex in any arbitrary case? I will accept answers other than "Because that's the way I think it is".



If you really want the answer to the complexity of ice and water, do the research.    Cool

You still haven't actually defined what complexity is. According to the wikipedia article on complexity "there is no unique definition of complexity" so if you don't provide your definition no one can know what you're talking about.



Already tried to make him define his terms but he doesn't give a fuck about this neither :/
1815  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 22, 2016, 12:56:21 AM

Is the 8 week old baby more complex than 2 weeks old baby?  Answer Yes or No please.

You understand the question, don't you?

... But I will answer it anyway. Yes. ...

Thank you.

You proved yourself wrong.   2 week old baby is less complex than 8 week old baby.
More complexity from less complexity.  There goes your "proof" of God, out to the dumpster.

Your Honour, I rest my case.  Witness is excused.



Nah, we already tried that.

I tried with evolution theory and fusions and simple tree growth but he just says yes then go like it was a no, won't work mate!

That's just it. Evolution = theory. Cause and effect = fact/law. Cause and effect = programming = if evolution is true in any way, it was programmed into nature.

Cool

It's cool how what's supposed to prove God is a fact/law and the thousands of things that refutes his existence are just mere theories. And it's funny how no scientist know it hmm?
1816  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 22, 2016, 12:53:51 AM
The real reason why atheists hate religion is, the devil has blinded their minds to the truth.

Cool

We don't hate it. We're just not interested in it. We're more interested in things that deal with facts.

No, you hate it. How do we know? You are unwilling to compare the dictionary definition of "religion" to atheism and see that atheism is a religion.

Cool

Jeez, dude! Have it your way. Call it however you want. Still we're not interested in it. That important detail escapes you still.

This doesn't escape me at all. The fact that you would rather live in a science fiction world than in a world of reality doesn't escape me at all.

Cool

Riiiiight. Cause God made cars, computers and everything you use in your house.

Essentially yes. And maybe precisely yes. Cause and effect is in everything, going back to the beginning.

Notice that you are attributing far greater abilities to God than I am. You say that His 14 billion year cause and effect made these things, while I say it was only a little over 6,000 years. You might be able to hit the cue ball and get the sixth ball into the prescribed pocket, but try doing it with more than 10,000,000 balls.

Cool

Still didn't explain why carbon datation isn't reliable.

Funny how you take only what you want?

I just answered this in a different thread. I am not supposed to know the why's of everything just like you aren't. Research it for the data so that you can see the facts that carbon dating is flawed.

Cool

Flawed to the point that it's 50k years false? Same goes for EVERY radioactive element we know and use?
1817  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: February 22, 2016, 12:51:39 AM

It's pollution because it changes the way ecosystem works. That's the definition.
That makes zero sense.

Unscientific, politically biased propaganda.

The carbon cycle is well understood.

No you're stupid. If humans change the concentration of CO2, the carbon cycle changes. That's all.

No, the carbon cycle does not change one bit.  I don't think you even understand what you are saying.  Even IF in worst case nutcase zealot Warmer the polar ice cap melted, the carbon cycle would not change.

However, if you actually believe that, support it with actual facts, instead of proclaiming people stupid.

Ok here is the fact:
Without humans nature absorbs X amount of CO2
With humans nature has to absorb X + Y amount of CO
Hence the cycle of CO2 is changed. I didn't say it was a huge amount, I didn't say it would break the cycle or anything. But the cycle changes and THAT'S WHY it's called pollution! Because it's the main definition of pollution...
1818  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity. on: February 22, 2016, 12:30:15 AM
This sticker is worth more than thousand of words :




Bitcoin bank  Grin  ?

What? Do you think it's stupid because btc was invented with the main purpose of no longer needing unreliable third party that keep sucking your possession while using your own money to grow their capital? Well, maybe :3
1819  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pictures from Russia. NSFW!!! on: February 22, 2016, 12:28:59 AM

the world is beautiful

The world maybe but not this place :/

Always sad to see abandonned places.
1820  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Racism is a real thing (this thread is extremely racist) on: February 22, 2016, 12:28:00 AM


Damn I'm not often on the same line than you galdur but here your perfectly right. Have to admit it.
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