I am also noticing accounts that just woke up. Not a ton so far 10 range but not sure if I should auto nuke those guys or give them a chance? Technically they haven't done anything wrong and I don't know if they're bought accounts, hacked accounts, or what.
Most of the accounts I've seen that have just woken up to join this campaign are going straight into churning out 20 shitposts as fast as they can. A few have already been banned for plagiarism including some high ranking accounts. I guess you can take them on a case by case basis but it's obvious those sort of accounts are only here for one reason only and I doubt many of them will start making exponential posts (or even half-decent ones) but whether you want to give them the benefit of doubt is up to you. As long as you keep an eye on them and have a list of the ones that have reappeared then there shouldn't be an issue. |
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Have we all done our predictions yet? It’s getting tight at the top of the leaderboard, too tight. Still early though, we will know who is going to challenge for the paid spots after Xmas.
It'll probably always be tight. Was last year. There's so few points between results really. I think it should be something like 2 points for a correct outcome and 5 for a correct score, and maybe 2.5 for a close prediction. With getting 1, 1.5 and 3, there's not much in it. Getting the correct score should come with a bigger point allocation in my opinion as that's what's difficult and sets you out from the rest and with the current scoring system it makes it far too close. I think the BBC used to do 10 points for a correct outcome and 50 for a correct score and that was better in my opinion. I will be doing mine sometimes later today and I hope this week I have a good round. It was shit last week with only 6.5 points I guess LOL. I will be also doing my pick for FortuneJack majestic.
Well you did better than most. I felt pretty confidant about my picks last week and only ended up with 2 total. This week's games are really tough to call. I messed up in the last round, I seriously need a good one now and I'm clueless as to what to pick  The 3 o'clock kick offs are tricky. Bournemouth vs West Ham, Villa vs Burnley, Wolves vs Watford and Palace vs Norwich should be close. Could go either way. Hard to choose between draws and home wins for them. |
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It shows how many high-ranking accounts are just waiting to activate the moment there's a financial gain. My version of the list here. I wanted to produce more stats on Merit per post, but unlike the ChipMixer applications, most users barely have anything to show for. This campaign will be perfect for catching alts and farmers as they won't be able to resist coming out of the woodwork to jump on this campaign with as many accounts as they can. A campaign that pays them for 20 posts per day no questions asked and without the scrutiny of a bounty manager is an ideal situation for them as they're less likely to be exposed. Already noticed some shenanigans: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=926537 mmo4me.2016 December 03, 2016 Two line shitposter with no posts since May 30, 2019 until yesterday. Saw he merited this user (also on the new campaign): Merited by mmo_online_1981 (5) Dear all
How to i can creat my SmartNodes direct from my wallet run Window
I try many times but can not run!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=926808 mmo_online_1981 December 04, 2016 Also no posts since April 22, 2019 until yesterday. Another two line shitposter and registered a day after him. Obvious alts. That user merited this account that was registered a within a month of the other two but is permabanned: Merited by mmo4me.2016 (5) Hello, I want to inform you that are still 5 days until the season 2 airdrop of Refereum project. I accidentally joined it , didn`t think they are so serious but in time i found out that they are very serious and they have a huge succes and progress. It`s related to gaming community and twitch also and their telegram group has reached 100k. I also received 1000 RFR on the first airdrop season , and now they just launched RFR on a big exchange. So if you wouldl like join the telegram group in order to maintain it as the biggest on ! TelegramYou need to check rules of airdrop program! More info in official web site of token! So possible ban evasion there if anyone wants to try find a concrete link between them. The thing which take my attention is who is the owner of crypto talk forums ? Is the the Yobit themselves because they are spending a good lots of funds to spreading this crypto talk forum advertisements here.
Most likely. Last time I see a campaign like this, it ended in vain, as most users no longer post after there is no payment. Yobit is throwing a lot of money in this one, not sure what their aim is but they certainly have to do better than give them some satoshi to posts on their forums. One of the possibilities is they're gonna use that forum to promote/market their 'IEO,' with funds from the project that made a deal with them. Not good marketing if that's happening. A lot of companies are starting their own boards. Stake has done it. Some even do their own signature campaigns like Stake and I think even Ver tried doing it on his. It's a good marketing tool and you cab control the dialogue as you see fit (if they wish). It's also a potential huge money maker if the site gains some traction and if it does other sites will start advertising there and maybe even their own sig campaign economy will boom. One thing for sure is if this forum ever bans campaigns there will be at least one other forum that tries to capitalise that and the traffic/sig campaigners will be looking for somewhere else and that will surely be lucrative for the operators if it every happens. |
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So it has begun. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=926537 mmo4me.2016 December 03, 2016 Two line shitposter with no posts since May 30, 2019 until yesterday. Saw he merited this user (also on the new campaign): Merited by mmo_online_1981 (5) Dear all
How to i can creat my SmartNodes direct from my wallet run Window
I try many times but can not run!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=926808 mmo_online_1981 December 04, 2016 Also no posts since April 22, 2019 until yesterday. Another two line shitposter and registered a day after him. Obvious alts. That user merited this account that was registered a within a month of the other two but is permabanned: Merited by mmo4me.2016 (5) Hello, I want to inform you that are still 5 days until the season 2 airdrop of Refereum project. I accidentally joined it , didn`t think they are so serious but in time i found out that they are very serious and they have a huge succes and progress. It`s related to gaming community and twitch also and their telegram group has reached 100k. I also received 1000 RFR on the first airdrop season , and now they just launched RFR on a big exchange. So if you wouldl like join the telegram group in order to maintain it as the biggest on ! TelegramYou need to check rules of airdrop program! More info in official web site of token! So possible ban evasion there if anyone wants to try find a concrete link between them. |
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Man Utd need to bite the bullet, fire Ole & put somebody in temporary charge until they can get somebody who deserves to be manager. Look to Simeone, Pochettino, Anfelotti, somebody who has won stuff as a manager. Ole is a joke.
Why would anyone of these leave their teams to join the sinking ship that is United? Are they going to go through all the available world class managers in the world before they realise it's the players? The problem really isn't the manager and I doubt any of the ones you listed would do much better. I really wish Zidane had become the United manager rather than go back to Madrid just to see how well he would do. Of course Solskjaer is not the man to bring United to former glory. But I think people are not really aware of how low United has really fallen and that it will take time for them to crawl back up.
They will just waste more time if they change managers after every 10 games, that club needs stability and currently I think Solskjaer with this team he is starting to build is doing quite ok.
Managers don't even get a chance to do anything these days before they're fired. They should start firing their squads instead. Maybe they should bring in a transfer window for managers to stop them being sacked after five games. To be honest, I don't think he could do any worse than Ollie. |
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There's still opinion when you've got to decide on whether it's offside or not and that's why we have officials. It's not always clear cut even with var and what happens when they're on the line. You really can't see millimetres even with var. They brought in the phrase 'clear and obvious error' but that's still open to interpretation and sometimes things are given in one game and not in the other. As for time, that's different. We don't need var for that but refs don't blow the whistle bang on the time they should and let the game run especially if the team is attacking. My issue is is var should only be used when called upon or when there's a serious incident. Don't review everything just because. If the incident is so small that nobody noticed then it's probably irrelevant, and someone being millimetres offside isn't relevant or serious in my opinion and is causing far too much time to be wasted along. I agree with you to some extent, If there is no real goal threat and/or the offside isn't noticeable at first glance, then play shouldn't be stopped, You can't keep reviewing every goal or stopping play for a potential offside that wasn't even in question at first glance. Yeah, things should only be reviewed if there's some doubt. Otherwise, why look for a problem? However, If for whatever play has to be stopped to for a review, then being just a micrometer offside(If it can be proven) should be enough reason to disallow a goal. If the other team requests a review, sure, but I still think millimetres offside isn't an issue.
Another problem is the fact that players themselves are always requesting for a review and referee often are left with no choice. There should be a certain standard in place to determine whether or not a review is necessary, at least one the assistant referee should be able to determine the necessity and therefore make a signal.
I think they're not meant to do this, but you can do a similar thing to they do in tennis (I think) where you only get three calls to request a review. |
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All of what you're suggesting has been proposed in the past, but at this point I'd rather just keep them quarantined in the off topic section than them infecting any where else as you'll just get them shitposting wherever is easiest for them and they'll move from board to board until there's none left. The problem again comes down to shoddy signature campaign managers who don't really care where someone is posting or about the quality of those posts. If people are abusing the off topic section or anywhere else and there's specific campaigns that are paying them for this then they should be dealt with. People can make decent posts in there but the whole reason it's become a cesspool is because of the few campaigns that are allowing themselves to be abused so they should be dealt with if they're causing a problem.
OK, let them spam the Off topic, but shall I continue reporting posts abd threads there? If I continue doing so and there is no moderator assigned to the section I just keep the global mods busy with all the usless crap that was posted there? I think we need at least a own section mod. The business in developing accounts there is dying so I suspect that all that shitposting will end soon. You can report whatever you wish and the globals will either handle it or not. I tend to avoid reports on sig spam but it looks like someone is handling them at least. As for more mods, I think all big sub boards should probably have their own dedicated one but only theymos can assign them. Farming has pretty much died out now after the implementation or the merit system so there's not much good in just building up your account merely with a high volume of posts in off topic as without the merit you'll just be stuck as a lower rank forever. |
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They were never really enforced so it's largely useless until they are. ~
Assuming you know who's responsible for the campaign. Any forum rules regarding campaigns - whether it's the OP's "minimum wage" or what you're suggesting - can work only if the forum controls all signatures, i.e. instead of being able to enter custom bbcode users would have to choose from a list of "approved" campaigns and that way you can tie them to managers etc. That obviously creates problems for everyone who just wants a personal unpaid signature. The best way would just be to blacklist the problem signatures like they were in Yobit's case. Yes, some have a life outside this forum. I do as well, but I login every day. I even have to take a laptop with me on vacations with my family to ensure that campaigns are paid out even if I am out of town. God forbid I'm late paying everyone. Everyone is not me, I get that but you cannot tell me that making 3 or less posts in a day is a rough task to do. Honestly takes users less than 20 minutes of being online to do so.
Not me.. I just went on 2 small vacations and didn't touch my laptop for 3 days each.. No way I am posting from the Holiday Inn when I could be enjoying a drink with fine company, to make my quota of posts, to make only a few dollars a week.. Being a signature campaign manager is different. You can't stop paying users just because you go on vacation. On the flipside, you can also look at it as being something you can get paid for from anywhere in the world. I know I'd much rather be sat next to a beach/pool and earning money than sit in front on my PC at home doing the same. Isn't it better to just hire more people? Enforcing minimum weekly post counts probably has a negative effect on post quality if people know they *have* to post enough or they'll be kicked out of the campaign.
But who does the hiring? The board hires more people or the campaigns? With the latter the issue is they're greedy and/or lazy and they are usually always understaffed or overworked here (if they even have a dedicated manager here in the first place) and want to get the 'hob' done with minimal work or expense to them and hiring more people is often an expense they can avoid, but that's why there needs to be repercussions for the problem campaigns that do little to nothing. |
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All of what you're suggesting has been proposed in the past, but at this point I'd rather just keep them quarantined in the off topic section than them infecting any where else as you'll just get them shitposting wherever is easiest for them and they'll move from board to board until there's none left. The problem again comes down to shoddy signature campaign managers who don't really care where someone is posting or about the quality of those posts. If people are abusing the off topic section or anywhere else and there's specific campaigns that are paying them for this then they should be dealt with. People can make decent posts in there but the whole reason it's become a cesspool is because of the few campaigns that are allowing themselves to be abused so they should be dealt with if they're causing a problem.
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I think it does. It is a rule that is geometric, there are no opinions about it. It either is or is not, imagine if in basketball somebody scored a winning 3-pointer 0.2 seconds too late. You cant say 'well, it's less than half a second, man'. There's still opinion when you've got to decide on whether it's offside or not and that's why we have officials. It's not always clear cut even with var and what happens when they're on the line. You really can't see millimetres even with var. They brought in the phrase 'clear and obvious error' but that's still open to interpretation and sometimes things are given in one game and not in the other. As for time, that's different. We don't need var for that but refs don't blow the whistle bang on the time they should and let the game run especially if the team is attacking. My issue is is var should only be used when called upon or when there's a serious incident. Don't review everything just because. If the incident is so small that nobody noticed then it's probably irrelevant, and someone being millimetres offside isn't relevant or serious in my opinion and is causing far too much time to be wasted along. I'm for it, as long as it looks at an actual play that led to the goal. Not the whole minute before, because if the ball went out of play in the centre and then both teams continued to play and team 1 scores a goal 15 seconds later you cannot disallow a goal because VAR said it was actually out.
But this is happening far to often and they seem to be running things back longer and longer. I've seen several matches where nearly five minutes have been taken to view the var system. ^ If they don't give him the sack they finish below the top 4 and potentially finish below it for a couple more years.
If it were up to me, they should've just stuck with LVG and started a slow rebuild of the club from the back room to the squad.
They need to get rid of this culture of sacking managers after a handful of bad games. Managers don't have time to achieve anything unless you move to the Barca's/Juve's/Man City's of the world. Fergie would have been sacked in his first season if he was a new manager today. What Leicester did to Ranieri did was disgusting. Had they have given him a little longer I'm sure he would have bounced back like they did anyway. |
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You can't force people to pay minimums and I don't think that's something the forum should get involved with. It doesn't matter whether someone is getting paid a cent per post or $100. The issue is the quality of posts and campaign managers and regardless of how much a user is being paid they should be upholding some minimum standards and for those that don't there should be repercussions as I've long said. If you let people do what they want then the greedy and lazy will abuse that. So, I kinda slightly disagree on saying "Signature campaigns are a privilege". It's an opportunity for users to get some financial benefit with the things they already are doing and from the companies perspective - it's a way to monetize the traffic of this forum so that they can build up a business. Both party are getting benefited.
And that's why it's a privilege. Nothing here is guaranteed. theymos could remove signatures anytime he wants if he feels that's what's best. |
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@VAR: Still not a fan, even if it benefits my team. It messes with the flow of the game, it's against the spirit of how football should be. But whatever, we'll just get used to it. Just hope it doesn't screw with us.
Yes, I quite agree with you, It becomes very irritating when reviews are to be made every now and then in interesting games. However, that's the price we all have to pay to get a next to fair/correct calls instead having to rue losing an important match/trophy for some wrongs calls that could have been easily prevented by having a second look. I think VAR is going to end up costing a team a victory based on an incorrect decision as well. The Portugal game I linked above got it wrong. There was another match - may have been in the champions league - where the ball went out of play but from an angle that var didn't have access to it looked completely different from the ones they did. Guarantee something major will happen sooner than later. Well, offside rule is one of the cornerstones of today's football. Level of football is so high that these offside plays are made tight and the players are used to it. I would not tinker with it further, if the rule says that 1mm is enough, it is fine by me. But let's limit it to actual play, not 17 passes before. That is stupid.
If you scrap offside, you can say goodbye to 80% of today's defenders that just aren't fast enough.
I haven't heard anyone call to scrap it completely but we don't need forensic analysis to see if someone is millimetres offside and none of the lower leagues get to "benefit" from it either, but them stopping the game to review something will just make it worse as bad as letting them play on. The ball is already almost out of play more than it's in it and it's just getting worse with var. The worse thing is letting the players celebrate then five mins later it's disallowed. Sky Sports panelist Graeme Souness on offside. “You can’t be a little bit pregnant can you!?”
If you’re offside then you’re offside.
No, but you can be a little bit offside and a toe offside doesn't need to be reviewed. |
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I can understand the disallowed goal for Tottenham against Leicester. Yea, it is unfortunate and it is 1mm, but if we have technology let's use it - even if they say that they cannot measure so accurately even with VAR.
But Chelsea - Liverpool was just against logic and felt plain wrong because the actual goal was very clear and it was disallowed because of a play made 10 seconds ago that did not provide enough advantage to Chelsea.
It's not var but the rules that need to be changed. Nobody gives a shit if a player is one centimetre off side and we shouldn't be taking minutes out of the game just to decide that. The offside rule was implemented to stop players 'goal hanging' and just waiting for someone to oof the ball up to them but the offside trap just ruins everything. Let players play without having to worry about whether they're off side or not. They should change the rules to allow for some leeway or just scrap var for certain things. If the officials don't pick up on the offside then let it go. |
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I took the bait on Superbru and bought the "premium" feature which would give more insight and suggestions, figured I'd try it out for a week and see what it's worth. Took their pick on all matches so far (except these last two games), 1 point out of 8 games. Hah!
Lol. I was wondering what that gold star was on your name. To be fair, I think most tipsters would have been wrong this round. Yea, tough game for Liverpool, I feel that Chelsea deserved more. That VAR call is really not something I like to see, that offside call was actually a long time before the actual goal so I feel we are lucky it got disallowed.
Yeah. Ridiculous. And only a centimetre offside as well. They really need to change the rule. If the Officials don't spot the offence then forget about it. They're letting the game play on for a while in some cases then disallowing the goal which takes another few minutes to review. Five minutes later no goal. The worst one I've seen was the incident in the Portugal game in the worldcup. They gave a penalty to one side, then var gave the penalty at the opposite end of the pitch that wasn't even a penalty in the first place: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A8n8IjvplkNext round we have Machester United vs. Arsenal I'm very sorry that there is no option "both to loose". this is the most realistic.
Damn, you made me laugh with this one. That option would be great for matches like this. Haha. Maybe -0 -0. Two Var disallowed goals takes them into negatives. Either way it's pretty much the only worthwhile game from the next round. |
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I only got 2.5 points yesterday but it doesn’t look like many others did much better. Four games today so a chance for all of us to do much better.
I got only 1 point yesterday mate  I could have had 2.5 too, but I decided to change my initial 1 - 1 pick to go for Newcastle to win 2 - 1, It backfired. I already locked my remaining picks for the week. Same. A lot of us did terrible so far. 9 of us all got a mere one point. Was annoyed at Leicester winning. Had the correct score until they got the winner in the last ten minutes. Brainboss got 9.5 points which took him up six places. He got the correct score on the Newcastle 0-0 draw which helped. Nobody else predicted that though a handful got the draw right. ^ Heh... There's 4 more fixtures to go.. So 4 more chances to acquire more points.  I got a bad feeling for United this weekend and I could be the only one to get the whole three points for that match. Lool. It's a hard game to call. I've gone for a draw but it could go any which way. I'm not that confidant about any of today's games to be honest. Gone for all draws with the exception of the Arsenal game. Don't know whether to change the Palace game to a home win though. |
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I'm betting on a Saints home win tonight even though I'm slightly torn between wanting Ings to score and Wilson as well. The former because I really liked him and if not for injury he coulda been a part of our squad better. The latter because I'd love for him to come into our senior one day.
I can't decide between 1-1 or 1-0 to Southampton. Both teams are tied in the league tables and have had the exact same results so far (1 draw, 2 wins and 2 losses). Southampton managed a draw with Man United at old Trafford (not a bragging right these days ) and won their last game away so they might just pip it but I think it will be a close one. Maybe even 0-0. Leicester/Spurs should be a good game in the first of tomorrow's matches. I think that will be close as well. I'll probably go for the draw but I kinda hope Leicester win it even though I have a soft spot for Spurs. It would be nice to see Leicester have a good run again and a win would see them temporarily overtake City for the second place spot . |
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Glad to be the only one to get the 0-0 score on the Bruge/Galatasaray game and the draw on the Spurs match. Pays to go for the goalless match sometimes. Nobody got the right score on Tottenham but two others went for the draw. Moved up quite a few places with those results. PSG v Real Madrid or ATL v Juve are the games to watch tonight. Hard to choose between them but I'd probably go for PSG though I think both games will be close. Tempted to go for draws for both but I think PSG might have the edge over Real in this leg.
I thought that as well and then I read that PSG will play without Neymar (susp), Cavani, Mbappe, Draxler and Bernat. Even PSG attack must suffer without all those players. On the other hand the situation at Real is not any better, they will miss Modrić, Isco, Marcelo, Marco Asensio, Diaz, Sergio Ramos and Nacho. I think this one is better skipped when betting since it could go either way. I guess there should be goals but after yesterday I am not sure even about that. Good lord. That's half of their teams out. Might have to reevaluate which game I'm watching now. ATL v Juve will be a better candidate now unless they have shit loads of players missing  . With all those players out I think I'll still play it safe with a draw. Thanks for the heads up. |
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Me I'm satisfied with Liverpool/Barca parlay 5/1. For now. Definitely potential for upsets tonight, as bookies give home advantage a lot of gas in betting. Ajax were rather poor at home last season I recall, so Lille at almost 7/1 seems tempting.
I am thinking a lot of goals in Dortmund-Barca game and Germans not loosing this one. If I were sure Suerez and Messi will not play today I would put a nice amount of money on it but in this situation it will just be a part of parley for small stake. Now with the start of Champions League we have a full compliment of football leagues available to us. Damn it was a long summer, i think I am addicted to high level club football. I think lots of people were expecting goals in this game. I went with 2-2 but at least I got the point for the draw. Slavia were unlucky not to win, but at least they got a point to make that group of death more interesting. All teams on 1 point so far from that group. Shame about the two late goals Liverpool conceded, though I don't think they should worry as they should win at Anfield. PSG v Real Madrid or ATL v Juve are the games to watch tonight. Hard to choose between them but I'd probably go for PSG though I think both games will be close. Tempted to go for draws for both but I think PSG might have the edge over Real in this leg. |
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2) The UK Gambling Commission revokes licenses issued to sportsbooks with illegal activities like money laundering. 3) After the proof of Sportsbet's illegal activities is submitted to the UK Gambling Commission, Watford FC has to say good bye promoting it! First and foremost they cancelled their deal on August and it was on the papers on September 1st, you just came to know about it and to paste those here is irrelevant. Sportsbet have cancelled their deal with Watford? Can't find any info on that. I was pleasantly surprised when I saw the Bitcoin BTC logo on their sleeves during the Watford V Arsenal game. I thought I was tripping at first. Only one thing I would suggest is actually putting the word bitcoin under the BTC logo so people have some clue what it is or at least can google it when it piques their interest, though it might be hard to find if you're completely oblivious and at the moment I think most people won't be aware of what it symbolises. Sportsbooks usually have to do drastical stuff to get more attention, its not like selling apples and make money, they are going against a ton of competition and they are already in a legally gray area (just to give an example, everything is legal in sportsbet.io yet they still can't allow USA players, its just the law) so doing as much marketing as possible is really the only way, if you stop doing anything than you will start losing customers to places that does big marketing. Mia Khalifa could be a weird choice for a sportsbook I would agree with that but aren't we talking about it?
I totally don't know what to think of Mia K as a mark ambassador. It seems at least odd, considering her well-known past and the fact that she openly sympathizes with West Ham. Of course, the buzz is the most important thing in marketing but on the second thought, it leaves a bad taste. Surely Mia K is not any different from Kim, maybe the biggest influential model of the planet, though I still don't think football is the right place for that kind of initiative. Let the football world for football people. What do you guys think of this marketing action? She seems to be a sports fan at least, but she's also pretty much just an instagram influencer now and most of them will promote anything for money and I can't really blame them. If you don't agree with it I would just ignore it but she has millions of instagram users so like it or not it's good promotion for bitcoin and that's what we need for mainstream adoption. |
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It's aliiive! So... Just 10 people officially in so far? What happened to the rest? I PMd everyone listed in the op but a handful haven't responded. One or two messaged me to say they dropped out, but I also just sent the sign-up link out to two others so they won't have joined the league yet. If anyone wants to join then there's still time before tomorrow. If anyone is struggling for money or needs to delay just PM me. You can still put your picks in on superbru now and join any league at a later date so don't worry too much about having the money in before the tournament starts. |
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